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Chat with Lindsay, "On our first date, he bought a house with Bitcoin!" - part 3
Episode 571st September 2023 • Orange Hatter • Tali Lindberg
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Personal Reflections: Lindsay wonders how different her life might've been if she hadn't been introduced to Bitcoin 18 months ago after a unique dating experience.

HODLing and DCA: Lindsay talks about the concept of "hodling."

Women and the Moon: A unique take on Bitcoin for women – drawing parallels between female hormonal cycles and the moon cycles, and how they might influence our perspectives, even on concepts like Bitcoin.

Learning Sources: Lindsay's emphasis on finding credible sources to learn about Bitcoin and her personal experience with cold storage.

The Sun and the Moon: Highlighting the complementary roles and strengths of men and women in the world of finance and Bitcoin.

To learn more about Bitcoin: Join the Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club. Visit https://www.meetup.com/womensbitcoinreadingclubwithorangehatter

Please email questions/comments to Tali@orangehatter.com

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Tali:

Hi everyone.

Tali:

Welcome to Orange Chatter.

Tali:

Today you're listening to part three of my conversation with Lindsay.

... Lindsay:

I think just really understanding this idea of sound money and what it

... Lindsay:

means for my future has been, has been what's like drawn me into Bitcoin.

Tali:

So if we play a game and we go back in time to a year ago or a year and a half

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ago, and the person who said opposite you on your first date, was not that person,

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it was somebody else, and he wasn't buying a house with Bitcoin ... can you go back

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to that moment and then think forward and see how differently your life or maybe

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just your mentality or your, your mental state would be different over the the last

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18 months and then also going forward.

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We're just doing pretend here.

Lindsay:

Super interesting thought experiment.

Lindsay:

Wow.

Lindsay:

There's no telling where I would be.

Lindsay:

I don't think that I would have found Bitcoin like on my own.

Lindsay:

Maybe I would have, but there's no telling when that would've happened.

Lindsay:

So even though that relationship didn't, you know, work out romantically, I'm

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still so grateful that it introduced me to sound money and put it on my

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radar, because I was, when we met, I was just still in a big transition

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from travel nursing to, you know, returning to Nashville to put down roots.

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I had just gotten out of a relationship, a long-term relationship that didn't

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work out, and so I was just kind of recalibrating everything in

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my, my whole world of like, okay, I'm, I'm in my mid thirties, I'm

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starting over, I'm back in Nashville.

Lindsay:

You know what?

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Just trying to put the pieces back together and so I really don't know.

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I don't know what my life would look like, but I'm, I'm glad

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that I don't have to know that.

Tali:

So it sounds like Bitcoin has changed a lot of things for you.

Tali:

Looking forward, what will you do differently now that you are

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fully convinced that Bitcoin is a thing and Bitcoin is hope?

Lindsay:

Yeah, so number one, it's still on my to-do list to consolidate

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all of my different, like retirement accounts from all of my different

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employers throughout my nursing career.

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But, so I, I need to do that.

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But I think just putting every dollar that I can into Bitcoin, you know, once I get

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all the monthly bills paid and, you know, get things in a little bit better order.

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I've heard people at the meetups talk about just buying Bitcoin,

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doing dollar cost average.

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And like I, I bought some Bitcoin a while back and shortly after that it went down

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quite a bit and that was discouraging.

Lindsay:

Not gonna lie about that.

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And I was like, oh, if I had only waited, you know, a couple weeks to buy.

Lindsay:

But Bitcoin has recovered and you know, that feels good, but

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the whole time, you know, I'd be talking to other people about my...

Lindsay:

you know, it is hard not to feel a little bit discouraged about that.

Lindsay:

But the point was that I, I'm a hodler, I'm not in it for like the short term.

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And so like this dip that's happening is like inconsequential.

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It feels like it is consequential, but it's really not.

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So I think just...

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it, well, and then like when Bitcoin started coming back up, I was like,

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oh, I should have bought more when it was at the, the lowest point.

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And so just basically whether, whenever I don't buy Bitcoin, I always regret it.

Lindsay:

So I think just continuing to try to stack SATs.

Lindsay:

As they say, stay humble stack SATs.

Lindsay:

So that's kind of what's next for me.

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Just continuing to like put my money where my mouth is, literally.

Tali:

Yeah, definitely it's, it's if we're a hodler, and for those of you

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out there who don't know what that means, it's just sort of a, it's a fun

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Bitcoin term, which just means holding.

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So you're holding the Bitcoin, you're not trading Bitcoin, you're

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buying it to preserve wealth, and not to trade it, to try to gain

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the, the, the market price change.

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I mean, dollar cost averaging, that's, that's the most, I would say, emotionally

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neutral way to go because then you, you don't have to try to catch it when it's

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low and try to, you know, benefit from when it's high, you're just looking

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really long term, so that's really cool.

Tali:

Any last recommendations for women who are still sitting on the fence?

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Maybe you can reference your love of the moon.

Lindsay:

Yes, I do love the moon.

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It's a full moon today, actually as we are recording this podcast, so

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there is, there's like a, a phrase in the Bitcoin community, like it has

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to do with Bitcoin going to the moon.

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And basically that just is referring to the price of Bitcoin in dollars,

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just going to infinity basically.

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And that's, that's kind of when all of us, like hodlers will

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be like vindicated or whatever.

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My, my thoughts for women who are on the fence, I would just encourage

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you to, to listen to someone that's smarter than you are about it.

Lindsay:

And there's so many people out there that are so generous with their

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knowledge and, you know, I don't know if this approach is for everyone, but

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I think there's something to be said for having like a childlike faith.

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You know, I, I trusted what I was learning about Bitcoin because I had

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already, you know, vetted this person I was talking to and I trusted their,

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their intelligence and knowledge.

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And so it was, that's kind of what made it easier for me to,

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to open my mind to Bitcoin.

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That was just my experience, and that's, that's not, that's not how I've learned,

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you know, everything that I know.

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It hasn't been from that type of process.

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But that's how it was for me in Bitcoin is just that, okay, I'm hearing these

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people who I can tell are smarter than me talk about why Bitcoin makes sense

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and why it solves X, Y, Z problem and why it is really, especially what it

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means for people in developing countries.

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Like it was, it was easier for me to, to accept like what I was learning

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about Bitcoin because I, I could just tell that what the information

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that I was hearing was like credible.

Lindsay:

So find some credible sources, I guess, to learn about Bitcoin and just

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have the conversations, buy some and then put it in cold storage, which

Lindsay:

is something that I recently did.

Lindsay:

So...

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yeah.

Lindsay:

And, and even just that experience made it more tangible, actually,

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you know, transacting with it.

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Even just bringing it into conversations.

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Like, I had a guy come to my house to do some pressure washing for

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me, and at the end I'm like, you know, okay, I'm, how can I pay you?

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And he was like, like we were talking about like Venmo or something, and

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it was like, I was like, well, or I can, I can pay you in Bitcoin.

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And this guy was, he was really surprised.

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I don't think he expected that to come out of my mouth.

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But we had a little conversation about, about cryptocurrency that day.

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But yeah, just I would say just spend some time.

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Learning about it.

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It's not too late.

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It might feel like it's too late, but I really, I really think it's a, a

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worthwhile investment of your time to learn about it, to learn about, you

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know, why the dollar is maybe not what you think it is, and see what happens.

Tali:

What was that thing you were talking about?

Tali:

The hormonal cycles?

Tali:

I would like to go down that rabbit hole a little bit.

Lindsay:

Yes.

Lindsay:

Well, I guess just briefly, I'll just say, yeah, the, the female hormone cycle

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is really closely mirrors the moon cycle.

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We've got, you know, four distinct phases.

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And they all, they all cause us to express ourselves differently

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and to process things differently.

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And there's, there's a rhythm to it all.

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And yeah, I'm really passionate about like women's health and just being our

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freest feminine selves that we can be.

Tali:

So to follow that train of thought, are you saying that how I

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feel maybe as a precoiner, like I don't know anything about Bitcoin, how I

Tali:

feel about Bitcoin might change during different times of the month, just as

Tali:

any other new concepts might seem to me?

Lindsay:

I think that's definitely possible.

Lindsay:

Yeah, I think, I think that's possible.

Lindsay:

Like, I can only speak for my own experience, but I, I just have

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different perspectives on things in my life at different points

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in my cycle, being honest here.

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You know, it's generally better to either make or not make certain decisions at

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different points throughout the month.

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So, yeah, I think definitely taking a stab at learning about Bitcoin in, in all

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four phases of your cycle could, could help you have a more well-rounded journey.

Tali:

I love that because I know some days like same, same subject,

Tali:

I will feel really hopeful and then I'll feel like I hate it and I am

Tali:

like, why am I bothering with it?

Tali:

And then maybe it's not so bad.

Tali:

Like for sure I can feel myself, like the conversation in my head

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being different during different times of the cycle, as you said.

Lindsay:

I mean that, and that's our biology.

Lindsay:

And I think that we do ourselves a favor when we kind of surrender to

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that biology and stop like fighting it.

Lindsay:

I know my life got a lot better when I started paying attention and you know,

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really like caring for my future self by either scheduling or not scheduling

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certain activities or workouts or meetings, like depending on where I

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would be in my cycle for those occasions.

Tali:

See, our conversation can go anywhere.

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And it's, and it's okay!

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We have to be women.

Tali:

Women have to be women.

Lindsay:

We, we have, we have a unique experience in the world.

Lindsay:

I think that we were created to just process information differently and

Lindsay:

I, I think that that's a strength and I, I think we need men too.

Lindsay:

I think they have, you know, their perspective on economics.

Lindsay:

I think someone that you interviewed recently was kind of talking

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about how traditionally men were more financially literate.

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And, um, that's, that's still the case in our society, like the

Lindsay:

finance industry, banking, even the Bitcoin meetups is predominantly men.

Lindsay:

And so I think we can learn a lot from them, and I think they

Lindsay:

can learn things from us, too.

Tali:

That is so true.

Tali:

I think we need both.

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And one isn't better than the other.

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We're just different and we compliment.

Tali:

Thank you so much.

Lindsay:

Yeah.

Lindsay:

Sun and moon.

Lindsay:

I love it.

Tali:

The sun and the moon.

Tali:

There you go.

Tali:

Thanks for joining us today and learning with us today.

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If the discussion with our guest resonated with you and you would

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like to dive deeper into the world of Bitcoin, don't miss out on joining the

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Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club.

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The meetup link is in the show notes.

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Also, if there are women in your life whom you think will both enjoy and

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benefit from learning more about Bitcoin, please share Orange Hatter with them.

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