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The primary focus of this podcast episode centers on an in-depth exploration of the War of 1812, a conflict often overshadowed by the American Revolution and the Civil War. I delve into the origins, pivotal battles, and the broader implications of this war, which served to reshape national identities and geopolitical landscapes in North America. Emphasizing the significance of wargaming, I also discuss various miniature companies that produce figures and ships perfect for recreating these historical clashes on the tabletop. Furthermore, I address listener inquiries, providing insights into the current state of my podcasting endeavors and the challenges faced in maintaining a consistent output. This episode promises to enrich your understanding of the War of 1812 while also offering practical advice for fellow wargaming enthusiasts.
Takeaways:
- The podcast emphasizes the intricate history of the 19th century, particularly during the Victorian era, and its influence on modern war gaming.
- Listeners are encouraged to engage with the Shot and Shield community across various platforms, including Facebook and YouTube, to enhance their gaming experience.
- The discussion includes a deep dive into the War of 1812, highlighting its significance and the major battles that defined the conflict.
- Scott shares personal anecdotes and reflections on the challenges of managing time for painting and gaming amidst life's responsibilities.
- The episode features a segment on miniatures and historical figures relevant to the War of 1812, providing listeners with resources for their tabletop games.
- Listeners are invited to participate by sending emails with questions or topics of interest, fostering a sense of community and shared knowledge.
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Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Shot and Shield
- Old Glory Miniatures
- Brigade Games
- Knuckle Duster Miniatures
- Warlord Games
- Perry Miniatures
- GHQ Models
- Langston Miniatures
- Redoubt Enterprises
- Tumbling Dice
- Blue Moon Manufacturing
- War Games Foundry
- Etsy
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Speaker A:Shat and Shield, your colonial WarGaming podcast.
Speaker B:The 19th century ended amid the glories of the Victorian era.
Speaker A:Shot and Shield, a podcast dedicated to wargaming the colonial era in those aristocratic.
Speaker B:Victorious days when, as Israelis said, the world was for the few and for the very few.
Speaker A:The views expressed during Shot and Shield are the hosts and only meant to be taken seriously.
Speaker C:If you feel it's necessary, good luck against those elephants.
Speaker A:And now, Shot and Shield listening in Skagen County, Sweden, in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Vietnam, Singapore, and in 74 different countries around the world.
Speaker A:This is Shot and Shield, a podcast dedicated to Colonial and 19th century war gaming in history, a podcast meant to be heard while you are working on your gaming, painting or your excellent projects.
Speaker A:I am your humble host, your humble servant, as it were, Scott demarquis of Middle Florida.
Speaker A:Now at this time I would like to ask you to subscribe to the Shot and Shield podcast, but also the shot and shield YouTube page where you will be able to find some more content including this podcast and and I'll be migrating my Shot and Shield archives over to YouTube as well during the year.
Speaker A:I also would like to ask you to join me with the Shot and Shield wargaming group on Facebook to keep up to date and interact with some amazing experts who have joined the group.
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Speaker B:Like to join the rifles, Dobbs?
Speaker A:Yeah, I would, sir.
Speaker B:It's a good life.
Speaker B:You can stay alive.
Speaker A: g a dive into war, the War of: Speaker A:Also, I found this truly excellent old time radio show called Tolstoy Pacifist Revolutionary fits within our 19th century theme.
Speaker A:Now to catch you up, the war gaming convention Recon in Kissimmea, Florida has just completed.
Speaker A:Unfortunately I was not able to attend this year, but I saw some pictures that were outstanding.
Speaker A: t which was a game set in the: Speaker A:US Marines vs Somali Pirates using the Sword and the Flame rules this.
Speaker A:The scenery was amazing.
Speaker A:The miniatures were fantastic.
Speaker A:Gunboats.
Speaker A:It was really some great pictures that I'm kicking myself because I wasn't able to go.
Speaker A:The theme for Recon was Africa.
Speaker A:So it's like right in my wheelhouse and there was a lot of games that had the colonial vibe to it, especially for Africa.
Speaker A:There was a Sword and Sword of Africa Game, which is a derivative of Sword in the Flames, which looked incredible.
Speaker A:There was a French Foreign Legion game with this fantastic fort, a great looking Wild west game.
Speaker A:And GT Publishing was play testing a new set of Zulu rules.
Speaker A:So I am a little on the despondent side for not being able to go.
Speaker A:But, you know, there's another convention soon, and that's going to be on August 20th and 23rd.
Speaker A:That one is Huracan.
Speaker A:They moved it up from September because it was usually later in September.
Speaker A:They moved it up to late August.
Speaker A:And the theme this year is fife and drum.
Speaker A:And I'm thinking to myself, if I have a chance, I'm gonna run a Hungarian revolution game.
Speaker A:I'm telling you, if I have a chance.
Speaker A:Fife and drum.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:Now, for our friends in England, Partisan is coming up May 17th.
Speaker A:And if you're able to go, you have to check out the luck.
Speaker A:Now, game setup from the Boondock Saints.
Speaker A:Trust me, it will blow your mind.
Speaker A:And it will inspire you.
Speaker A:These miniatures and the terrain setup is just perfect, professional, amazing.
Speaker A:You will doubt your abilities after you see that setup.
Speaker A:I know I did.
Speaker A:When I just seen pictures, I said, oh, I suck.
Speaker A:I should just give up right now.
Speaker A:Just give up.
Speaker A:But it more inspired me than anything else.
Speaker A:Now, let me take a moment.
Speaker A:I want to talk about Mad Dogs and Englishmen.
Speaker A:Mad Dogs Go west by John Sutherland.
Speaker A:This is a rule set.
Speaker A:You can get it@cavalierbooks.com just type in Mad Dogs and Englishmen.
Speaker A:John contacted me about a year, maybe a year and a half ago, asking if he.
Speaker A:If he could use some of the pictures of my Qajar Persian army miniatures from the 19th century.
Speaker A:Just so you know, these miniatures, they're from Westphalia Miniatures.
Speaker A:I got them through Black Huster in Berlin.
Speaker A:They are just an amazing set of figures.
Speaker A:They're beautiful.
Speaker A:They paint really well.
Speaker A:They're a joy to paint.
Speaker A:And I gotta tell you, I'm very proud of these figs in my collection.
Speaker A:Probably the best figs in my collection, hands down.
Speaker A:So it was really, really honored.
Speaker A:I was really honored that John reached out and he wanted to use them for his new book, Mad Dogs Go West.
Speaker A:Well, I took some more pictures for him and finished his book.
Speaker A:Now, when I received it, I was really astounded at how many pictures he used.
Speaker A:Now, the reason I say that is because when I get a rule set, there's a ton of pictures of other people's collections.
Speaker A:And it's usually like two or three from a lot of different people.
Speaker A:So when I opened up Mad Dogs Go West.
Speaker A:I was stunned.
Speaker A:It just like, wow, there's a ton of pictures and they were all, well, the majority of them were all from my collection, so it was just really shocking to see.
Speaker A:But there's other things in there.
Speaker A:I mean, there's maps, there's historical paintings, there's pictures of weapons.
Speaker A:But the majority of the miniature pictures, including the front, the back cover, were my Persians, Herats and Central Asians.
Speaker A:So I just really wanted to take a moment at the beginning of the podcast to appreciate John for his accomplishment.
Speaker A:Mad Dogs Go West.
Speaker A:It's a, it really is a good read.
Speaker A: scenarios covering the: Speaker A:And, and there's some great historical knowledge in this book, great unit formation information.
Speaker A:Also charts for use in the original Mad Dogs and Englishmen rule set.
Speaker A:John, just from me to you, thank you so much for including me in your wonderful book.
Speaker A:Now you can pick it up@cavalierbooks.com and you could also see me scrolling through the book.
Speaker A:I opened it up on video.
Speaker A:I just went ahead and went to the YouTube, opened it up.
Speaker A:Let's take a look at it.
Speaker A:And so my reveal is on the shot and shield YouTube page.
Speaker A:So I just wanted to take a moment and thank John and tell you about that.
Speaker A:Now let's hit up some emails.
Speaker A:Germany calling.
Speaker B:London calling.
Speaker B:Moscow calling.
Speaker A:Washington, D.C. calling Peking calling.
Speaker A:Sydney calling.
Speaker B:Message for you, sir.
Speaker A:It's time to answer some emails from all around the world.
Speaker A:Now if you'd like to hit up the podcast and yours truly through email.
Speaker A:It's a shotandshieldmail.com or you can go to the Shot and Shield War Games group on Facebook and pose a question there which I will answer you directly and then probably use in the show here.
Speaker A:That way everybody can benefit from your question.
Speaker A:First question, slash, email.
Speaker A:Jordan in Dallas, Texas, listening to the podcast on Spotify, writes Scott, why are you not doing the podcast every month like you used to?
Speaker A:Last year there were only a few episodes and you haven't dropped an episode this year.
Speaker A:And then he goes on to talk about his love of Persians.
Speaker A:So hey, thanks Jordan.
Speaker A:I'm not going to go into the rest of that, but to answer your question there, look, time is a valuable commodity.
Speaker A:I work a lot.
Speaker A:I'm a small town store manager for a bargain retailer.
Speaker A:But I am also a management trainer.
Speaker A:I have to run the show and train the show and this is tough.
Speaker A:And since I took out My mcl, it's been harder but not impossible to get around.
Speaker A: th, October of: Speaker A:So unfortunately, it gets pushed back in the agenda, in life's agenda, as does this podcast.
Speaker A:I will say this, I will never give up the podcast.
Speaker A:But I can only bust out these when I have, you know, enough time.
Speaker A:I have some time right now, which is great because I haven't spoken with you for such a long time.
Speaker A:And get, it does give me a little bit of a twitch.
Speaker A:But, you know, look, 59 years old.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be 59 this year.
Speaker A:Retirement's coming up just around the bend, so more time for war gaming, painting and podcasting are on the horizon.
Speaker A:So hurrah, foreign, let's move on.
Speaker A:Cosmic Barrel listening in Miami sent me this email just a few days ago.
Speaker A:Scott, did you know that Devin Gongfu painter passed away?
Speaker A:Are you aware how he passed Cosmic Barrel?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:You know, I just found out about Devin, just actually a few days before you sent that email to me.
Speaker A:So maybe about a week and a half ago.
Speaker A:Devin was an original gangster, member of the Shot and Shield War Game Facebook group, listener, participant.
Speaker A:He also just, you know what?
Speaker A:Can I tell you something?
Speaker A:He was an excellent painter.
Speaker A:Just an excellent painter.
Speaker A:If you see.
Speaker A:If you have a chance to.
Speaker A:If you know Devin or you are still friends with him on the Facebook, go and see some of his work.
Speaker A:It is really inspiring.
Speaker A:It's a really great job.
Speaker A:And he used to be very proud of that.
Speaker A:Him and I used to chat a little bit about the Flash Gordon because we both liked the movie.
Speaker A:And so we kind of lost touch a little bit.
Speaker A:But I didn't realize that we lost touch because he had passed away.
Speaker A:So he passed away a year ago.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:It's crazy.
Speaker A:I don't, you know.
Speaker B:Mmm.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:It's amazing, isn't it?
Speaker A:Life is fleeting.
Speaker A:But I'll say this.
Speaker A:You know, what lives on is his work.
Speaker A:And I hope that.
Speaker A:I hope his page stays up because his.
Speaker A:His painting is just amazing.
Speaker A:If you have a chance to see it, please do Devin Gongfu Painter.
Speaker A:And you probably find that on the Facebook as well.
Speaker A:I'm going to move on here.
Speaker A:This is a email from Peter, listening to Shot and Shield on Apple podcasts in jolly old England.
Speaker A:He won't tell me where, but jolly old England.
Speaker A:And he writes, marquis, Scott, what is wrong with You.
Speaker A:Are you leaving the 19th century?
Speaker A:You spoke World War II on your last podcast.
Speaker A:I am outraged.
Speaker A:I believe we all need an explanation.
Speaker A:Damn, son, slow your roll.
Speaker A:Look, Peter, 90% of everything I do is in the 19th century.
Speaker A:I was born with a pipe in my mouth, a hunting cap on top of my head, and the complete works of Alfred Lord Tennyson under one arm, and the complete works of Rudyard Kipling under the other.
Speaker A:And I was swaddled to the sounds of Tchaikovsky, so.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker A:I just happen to, like.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I happen to like the odd theaters, like 19th century Central Asia, World War II, Palestine.
Speaker A:That is right down my.
Speaker A:That's right in my.
Speaker A:My wheelhouse.
Speaker A:It's such an odd place to have.
Speaker A:And then you're going to have the French versus the British.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:In a World War II game.
Speaker A:I'm in.
Speaker A:And, you know, the Napoleon Caucuses.
Speaker A:You know who plays that?
Speaker A:Nobody does.
Speaker A:Except this guy.
Speaker A:So, you know what?
Speaker A:Listen, Peter, it's okay.
Speaker A:I'm not bailing on the 19th century.
Speaker A:I'm not giving it up.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:That was a.
Speaker A:That was a really.
Speaker A:WW2 Palestine.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:That's just fun right now.
Speaker A:So relax.
Speaker A:All right, One more email here.
Speaker A:This email is from Horace Listening in California, and he asked for some advice here.
Speaker A:Scott, I would like your advice.
Speaker A:I have purchased so many different miniatures that I don't know where to start.
Speaker A:I am overwhelmed.
Speaker A:Do you have any tricks?
Speaker A:Okay, man.
Speaker A:God, I don't have any tricks for you.
Speaker A:I'm in the same boat.
Speaker A:I got, like, on my.
Speaker A:On my table right now.
Speaker A:Actually, there's nothing on my table.
Speaker A:My table is clear right now.
Speaker A:I had to clear it off because I was going mental looking at it.
Speaker A: S Italian Revolution,: Speaker A:I still need to paint those.
Speaker A:I have a ton of Italian revolution to paint.
Speaker A:1857 British for the Anglo Persian War.
Speaker A:I still have to.
Speaker A:I still have to paint.
Speaker A:I got both sides of the Spanish American War, Pirates of the.
Speaker A:Of Borneo, and then I dropped the WW2.
Speaker A:Vichy French versus British and Palestine.
Speaker A:Plus I got some pre Dreadnot Sea action and some pulp stuff.
Speaker A:I don't even know where to help you, Horace.
Speaker A:I really don't.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:I don't even know where to help you.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm actually looking at my stuff and saying, you know, I really need to get out of some of these, you know, both sides of the Spanish American War.
Speaker A:I'm thinking about going ahead and ditching that.
Speaker A:So if you see a post on.
Speaker A:On the Shot and Shield war gaming group on Facebook, if you see a post on there, it says, hey, look, getting rid of these, you know, let me know if you want them.
Speaker A:Because I'm looking at everything else.
Speaker A:The Vichy French, British Palestine, that ain't going to happen.
Speaker A:The British Anglo Persian War, ain't going to happen.
Speaker A:I'm not going to give that up.
Speaker A:I'm not going to give up the Turkish Imperial Russia, not going to give up that.
Speaker A:Or the Italian Revolution.
Speaker A:The Pre Dreadnought, I may.
Speaker A:The Pirates of Borneo, I may just walk away.
Speaker A:Because here's my.
Speaker A:My original trick.
Speaker A:And I, I kind of got ahead of myself last year, early last year as I really got ahead of myself.
Speaker A:I'm used to.
Speaker A:I do a scenario, I do a theater, and I'm done with the theater and I move on.
Speaker A:All right, so the first theater that I really kind of dug into was Afghanistan, Central Asia and Russia during the middle of the 19th century.
Speaker A:So I did those.
Speaker A:That's all done.
Speaker A:And then I moved on to.
Speaker A:I added Persia to that mix.
Speaker A:Then I took a break.
Speaker A:I said, you know, I'm going to leave Asia for a little bit before I go back, because I'm going to go back to Asia.
Speaker A:So I decided I was going to jump into the Hungarian revolution.
Speaker A:So I did that.
Speaker A:That's done.
Speaker A:And then I couldn't decide where to go.
Speaker A:So I thought, you know what?
Speaker A:I already have the Austrians from the Hungarian revolution let me jump into the Italian Revolution.
Speaker A:I jumped into the Italian Revolution.
Speaker A:That was like an avalanche.
Speaker A:Because all I was going to do is get it, you know, some red shirts and some papal states.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden it was like Piedmont and Naples.
Speaker A:And I just kept going and going and going.
Speaker A:Then I thought, well, you know, since I have this, there was somebody was having a sale and I got a bunch of Turkish and Imperial Russians.
Speaker A:So that I got that set aside.
Speaker A: I already had my: Speaker A:I kind of had that set aside.
Speaker A:So I didn't really touch that yet.
Speaker A:Then I wanted to say, ah, you know what I really need to do?
Speaker A:I need to do something really different.
Speaker A:Let me do Spanish American War because they were having a sale.
Speaker A:And I jumped into that.
Speaker A:Then I did a show on the Pirates of Borneo.
Speaker A:And I thought, hey, you know what?
Speaker A:That's a great idea.
Speaker A:Let me get some boats.
Speaker A:And I got some figures for that.
Speaker A:And then, you know, I got some stuff for Pre Dreadnought I got some these fantastic Johnny Quest figures from Pulpa Miniatures from Bob Merch up in Canada.
Speaker A:And I thought, oh, I'll do some of this.
Speaker A:And then it was like, I don't know, I saw something about Vichy French versus British and Palestine.
Speaker A:I saw something on YouTube and I was like, oh, you know what?
Speaker A:That's great.
Speaker A:And then I just started jumping into that.
Speaker A:So I got tanks and everything else, and now I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker A:So, Horace, I feel your energy, I feel your pain.
Speaker A:I feel everything that you're going through right now.
Speaker A:And my only advice is probably what I'm going to end up doing is probably cutting a few of these projects off and saying, you know what?
Speaker A:I need to say no mas on this project or no mas on this project and just gotta move on from them and then get back to my routine, which is do the theater, get it done, then move on to another theater.
Speaker A:But not like, not buy anything.
Speaker A:Like, do the theater and then decide on the next project.
Speaker A:Get everything you need and then kill it, and then do this and repeat.
Speaker A:That's the only thing I could suggest.
Speaker A:I would pick out maybe two or three of the really high priority projects you have.
Speaker A:Everything else, ditch it.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:That's my suggestion.
Speaker A:That, Horace, is my suggestion.
Speaker A:So anyway, so that the emails are going to come to an end.
Speaker A:A lot of the emails that I have recently received, I've been like, hey, are you going to do a show?
Speaker A:Are you going to do a show?
Speaker A:Are you going to do a show?
Speaker A:So there's more of those than anything else.
Speaker A:But yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker A:Like I said earlier in a earlier post, hey, look, I'm gonna do a show.
Speaker A: nted to hear about the War of: Speaker A: n't remember doing the War of: Speaker A:So that's what's coming up next.
Speaker A:Wargaming.
Speaker A: The War of: Speaker A:This is shot and Shield.
Speaker B:You don't think I too dream of peace?
Speaker A:You don't think I too yearn to.
Speaker B:End this damn dirty job we call soldiering?
Speaker C:Frankly, no.
Speaker A:It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of.
Speaker A:Hello.
Speaker A:You just caught me, famous podcaster and influencer Duke Scott reading in my study.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Since you're here, let me tell you about a great way to connect with our Shot and Shield gaming community.
Speaker A:It's through social media, on Facebook, the Shot and Shield podcast wargaming group where you can find a lot of info about this podcast, but also get wargaming and painting advice from our member experts.
Speaker A:You can even learn how to dress like a true 19th century hero from friend of the podcast, Claude Bailey.
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Speaker A:Now if you'll excuse me, Charles Dickens awaits.
Speaker A:Shot and Shield is a production of the Experience 13 podcast network.
Speaker A:Welcome back to Shot and Shield.
Speaker A:I appreciate you joining me after the time out there.
Speaker A:I've been doing this podcast for a while.
Speaker A:I think now we're past three years now, and sometimes I forget some of the things that I've covered and sometimes I think I've covered stuff that I haven't covered before.
Speaker A: u never talk about the War of: Speaker A:And I have to tell you, I really, I haven't thought about it.
Speaker A:I may have, I don't remember.
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker A:I could have.
Speaker A:You got me.
Speaker A:I sit there and I think to myself, hey, there's thousands and thousands of topics that I can get into regarding the 19th century, and I'm sure I've missed a bunch that I haven't covered.
Speaker A:But then again, I think I've covered a couple of things quite a bit.
Speaker A:So what I'd like you to do, actually, if you don't mind, email me shotandshieldmail.com and if there's something that you haven't heard, please email me.
Speaker A:Let me know or I'll put up something on the Facebook page, the Facebook group, and then you can go ahead and let me know.
Speaker A: I haven't covered the War of: Speaker B:Stand firm, boys.
Speaker A:The British come on in proud array.
Speaker B:But this line shall not be broken.
Speaker A:Steady your aim and when they near.
Speaker B:The ditch, give them fire.
Speaker A: Now, The War of: Speaker A:It's one of the really misunderstood conflicts in American British, Canadian history.
Speaker A:It's overshadowed by the American Revolution and the Civil War for sure, especially here in the States, but this war right here nonetheless has reshaped North America altogether.
Speaker A:In my opinion.
Speaker A:It strengthened national identities and, and produce some of the most dramatic naval and land battles of the early 19th century.
Speaker A:And so in today's episode, going to bust out a deep dive, or at least my version of a deep dive, into what caused the war, how it unfolded, A bunch of battles, a handful of battles that defined it.
Speaker A:And then we're going to look at some of the companies that produce miniatures and miniature figures and ships for anyone interested in recreating these clashes on the tabletop.
Speaker A:Now, the tensions between the United States and Great Britain.
Speaker A:Now there during this time, Great Britain was really focused on Napoleon.
Speaker A:And because they were folk and because they were so focused on Napoleon, the United States became sort of this de facto French.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, you know what?
Speaker A:Can I tell you something?
Speaker A:I haven't had a day off in like the longest time ever.
Speaker A:And this tool shed will continue, continue to blow my phone up until he gets an extra hour.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:These kids today, they suck.
Speaker A:They just suck.
Speaker A:The biggest in the world.
Speaker A:And let me tell you another thing that's really driving crazy is how are you gonna ask for more hours, but you're gonna leave early on your schedule?
Speaker A:God, leave me the alone.
Speaker A:You want more hours?
Speaker A:Blowing my phone up on day off is not an answer.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:What an idiot.
Speaker B:What a dirty little Dutch buffalo brain bastard.
Speaker B:Put on his pox clown up his royal pox ds A blue blooded swat.
Speaker B:Dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Speaker A:Good, you're still recording.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm all right.
Speaker A:That's all.
Speaker A:I won't.
Speaker A:It's good, right?
Speaker A:Let's try that again.
Speaker A:Take two.
Speaker D:Sure is good.
Speaker C:Come on, boy.
Speaker B:Dog makes a sight better sentry than you do, soldier.
Speaker B:This belongs in your hand.
Speaker D:You British?
Speaker B:If I was, you'd be dead.
Speaker B:How long you been in this army?
Speaker C:Since day four yesterday.
Speaker B:Well, boy, how you feeling?
Speaker B:Kind of hungry.
Speaker B:You're not hungry till you can wipe your eyes with the slack of your belly.
Speaker B:You hold on to that musket now.
Speaker B:Here.
Speaker C:How long you been with old Hawk Face?
Speaker B:I am Old Hawk Face.
Speaker B:You Andy Jackson yourself?
Speaker B:Thought scares me too sometimes.
Speaker B:With a man like you guarding the post, I expect I can rest easy now, huh?
Speaker A:All right, first off, sorry about my meltdown.
Speaker A:And secondly, it's nice to know that Andrew Jackson had a problem with his troops as well.
Speaker A:So I guess we have something in common, me and old Hawk Face there.
Speaker A:All right, let me continue.
Speaker A:We continue.
Speaker A:Let's continue.
Speaker A: So The War of: Speaker A:And it really reached a breaking point when the British had really put it in their mindset that Americans were benefiting from Britain's war with Napoleon.
Speaker A:United States was hard pressed because they're getting their, their sailors impressed into the Royal Navy.
Speaker A:You got all kinds of trade restrictions going on regarding France and Britain.
Speaker A:Britain's support for Native American resistance in Northwest territory was intense.
Speaker A:And there were American expansionist ambitions, especially towards Canada.
Speaker A:And the British also have this unwillingness to negotiate anything with the United States at this time.
Speaker A:As for the British, they really thought that anything that Napoleon did would just hurt England and benefit America.
Speaker A:Anything that America did, in their view, would hurt Britain and help the French.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A: battles of the War of: Speaker A: be the Battle of Lake Erie in: Speaker A:Oliver Hazard Perry's decisive naval victory secured America's control of the Lakes and forced the British to withdraw from Detroit.
Speaker A: o, the Battle of New Orleans,: Speaker A:Andrew Jackson's stunning victory against a larger British force fought after the peace treaty had already been signed.
Speaker A:It was an amazing battle that Andrew Jackson fought here.
Speaker A:One of the things that he's remembered for the Battle of Queenston Heights, a major early battle where British Canadian forces, aided by Mohawk warriors, repelled an American invasion of Upper Canada.
Speaker A: The Battle of Lundy's Lane,: Speaker A:One of the bloodiest, one of the bloodiest battles of the war, fought near Niagara Falls, ended in a costly stalemate.
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Speaker A:Number seven.
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Speaker A:American victory in Ontario, where Tecumseh was killed, breaking native resistance in the region.
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Speaker A:You can game these very, very well.
Speaker A:If you want to do a large scale battle, obviously you're going to need enough figures and a big old table.
Speaker A:So because my preference is skirmish, I would always suggest skirmish before anything else because I think you can capture the feel on the table a little bit better than you can doing something large.
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Speaker A:So first we got Old Glory Miniatures.
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Speaker A:They specialize in Age of Sail ships, ideal for recreating some of these naval battles of the era as well.
Speaker A: millimeter figures of War of: Speaker A:Excuse me, and native forces.
Speaker A:But I'm not sure if they're even around anymore because I've seen lots of stories about them not being active from folks.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So take that for what it's worth.
Speaker A:But I did want to include them because they do have a really good range.
Speaker A: Dice, the company offers one: Speaker A: millimeter war of: Speaker A:Like they have a whole slew of units going on.
Speaker A:Company of note is War Games Foundry.
Speaker A:I think you can find suitable figures on WarGames Foundry website that will work for you.
Speaker A:Especially for the Native Americans Croatian miniatures in 15 mil.
Speaker A:I'm sure they have some stuff in their Napoleonic ranges and their Native American ranges that will be suitable.
Speaker A:And then also I would try Etsy when you're going to purchase larger units.
Speaker A:They might have something in 3D print that works pretty well for what you're looking to do.
Speaker A: skirmish game for the War of: Speaker B:Foreign.
Speaker A: ve you ever played the War of: Speaker A:I haven't.
Speaker A:I haven't.
Speaker A:Seems interesting to me.
Speaker A:And I think the, the history is interesting as well, especially when you have all the different factions.
Speaker A:You're talking the British, you're talking Canadian, you're talking Native American and frontiersmen and Americans.
Speaker A:Militias, organized armies.
Speaker A:You know, obviously, you know, I like the musket shot and calvary aspect of it.
Speaker A:I think it might be an interesting war to do naval conflicts with, especially early 19th century.
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Speaker A: for you today is a show from: Speaker C:Down the long path of history, trampling across centuries and continents and the graves of kings and the necks of dictators, seeking always a way of life where the people have their freedom, believing, praying, fighting, dying.
Speaker C:We Came this Way.
Speaker C:The NBC University of the Air, a public service feature of the National Broadcasting Company and its affiliated stations, presents We Came this Way, a new historical series for our listeners at home and overseas.
Speaker C:With Clifton Utley as narrator, we present Chapter eight, the story of Leo Tolstoy in We Came this Way.
Speaker C: e, lived upon this earth from: Speaker C:All men felt the loss.
Speaker C:All men, for one paralyzed moment in time, felt like orphans under the vast, inexplicable silence of the sky.
Speaker C:Few men in their lifetime could seize an empire as one seizes a dog by the scuff of its neck and shake it with a giant anger until justice was shaken loose from it.
Speaker C:Few men, a handful, and count Leo Tolstoy was one of them.
Speaker C:The time is the last decade of the 19th century.
Speaker C:The fame of Tolstoy tolls like a great bell across the world.
Speaker C:He is all things to all men.
Speaker C:To the revolutionist, he is the great.
Speaker B:Enemy of the Russian aristocracy.
Speaker C:To the religious dissenter, he follows the.
Speaker B:True teachings of Christ.
Speaker C:To men of letters, he is the.
Speaker B:Supreme literary artist of the world.
Speaker C:And to the ministers of His Imperial Majesty, Tsar Alexander iii, he is dangerous.
Speaker C:He is 63 years old.
Speaker C:His eyes are quick and piercing.
Speaker C:His white patriarchal beard gives him the appearance of a biblical prophet.
Speaker C:Power emanates from his whole being, power and a sense of A vast profundity.
Speaker C:He has already written War and Peace, Anna Karenina, the Kreuze Sonata.
Speaker C:He has already written his famous religious and moral works.
Speaker C:He has formulated his concept of the state.
Speaker C:It is evil.
Speaker C:It is corrupt and cruel.
Speaker C:Yet Tolstoy will not preach resistance to that evil.
Speaker C:For at the core of his beliefs is the principle of non resistance.
Speaker B:I repeat, do not resist evil.
Speaker B:To change things in the outside world means to do violence, to hurt someone, thus to resist one evil with another.
Speaker B:Let thy deeds of reform be committed in thy soul.
Speaker B:If thy cheek be struck, turn to them the other.
Speaker B:Do not resist evil.
Speaker B:Cherish love instead.
Speaker C:But this is a tale of how Leo Tolstoy did resist evil.
Speaker C:This is the story of how Tolstoy betrayed himself.
Speaker C: It is summer,: Speaker C:A hot, dry wind has blown across Russia's central provinces.
Speaker C:For months the grass and the grain have withered, the streams have dried, and the cattle load disconsolately in the burned out fields.
Speaker C:Famine, that final horror of the peasants lives, looms in the land and they turn to the authorities.
Speaker C:Excellency.
Speaker C:Excellency.
Speaker C:God is my witness, my son's bones stick out like the knuckles on my hand.
Speaker C:But the authorities do nothing.
Speaker C:They try to hush it up and the cries for help fade away into the hurried whispers in government bureaus.
Speaker C:But the liberal elements are shocked and voluntary relief begins.
Speaker C:Funds are needed to fight the disaster, and they turn to the famous of the empire to lend their prestige to the collections.
Speaker C:And certain of his agreement, they turn to Count Leo Tolstoy.
Speaker D:Leo.
Speaker D:Leo, it is I, Sophie.
Speaker B:Open.
Speaker D:Leo.
Speaker B:Well?
Speaker D:Does your own wife have to pound like a police officer before she can see you?
Speaker B:What is it, Sophie?
Speaker D:Rajevsky is leaving.
Speaker D:He is insulted.
Speaker B:So has he not insulted me?
Speaker D:But how, Leo?
Speaker D:How?
Speaker B:By asking me to join with him in what is essentially a criminal deed?
Speaker D:Criminal?
Speaker D:I don't see how it's criminal to aid starving peasants.
Speaker B:I should expect my wife to approve.
Speaker D:My actions, but how can I when I don't understand them?
Speaker D:Raevsky, an old friend, comes to visit.
Speaker D:He talks about helping the peasants in Ryazan province.
Speaker D:And all at once you grow angry.
Speaker D:You shout, you call him a coward and a thief.
Speaker D:And then you rush from the room.
Speaker D:How am I to understand that charity.
Speaker B:Is an evil, A cowardly act, a throwing of a bone to save the whole dish.
Speaker B:Furthermore, I will not resist the evil brought on by this society with another evil.
Speaker D:Then what in heaven's name is to be done for these hungry people?
Speaker D:Let them starve now.
Speaker D:Don't shrug and don't be angry at me.
Speaker D:I am not Rajesky.
Speaker D:I am only a Christian woman who thinks it cruel and unchristian to permit men and women and children to starve.
Speaker B:Will you leave me, Sophie?
Speaker B:I repeat, I will not have anything to do with these hypocritical Scots schemes of charity.
Speaker C:Meanwhile, the sun climbed higher each day in rasagne, and famine crept from village to village, and nightmare overwhelmed that land.
Speaker C:And others came to Tolstoy, each bringing a fragment more of the calamity.
Speaker C:And on his estate, the gastling Apollo, Tolstoy listened.
Speaker B:The children with their swollen bellies.
Speaker B:They stare at you as though you and you alone have brought this horror into their lives.
Speaker B:To keep warm, Leo Nikolaevich, they are burning the straw from their rooftops.
Speaker B:And of course, the more straw they burn, the colder their huts become.
Speaker C:And after each new fragment of the terrible tale, Tolstoy grew more silent and brooding.
Speaker C:Sometimes he rose abruptly and went out.
Speaker C:Signs were multiplying.
Speaker C:The lips quivering, the great knotty hands moving restlessly.
Speaker C:The sudden silences and the growing look in his face as of a man perpetually haunted by scenes of horror.
Speaker C:Yes, the signs were multiplying.
Speaker C:Until one evening at dinner.
Speaker D:Leo.
Speaker D:Aren't you hungry, Leo?
Speaker B:Eh?
Speaker D:You haven't touched your food.
Speaker B:I am not hungry.
Speaker D:Are you ill, Leo?
Speaker D:What's the matter with you?
Speaker D:Why do you gaze about the table as if you've never seen any of us before?
Speaker B:You are eating, all of you.
Speaker B:Eating?
Speaker D:Of course.
Speaker D:What is it, Leo?
Speaker B:How can you.
Speaker B:How can you live food to your mouth and not choke upon it?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker D:What are you talking about?
Speaker B:We sit and eat and grow fat.
Speaker B:The bread is white.
Speaker B:There is meat.
Speaker B:Do not your soul revolt at it?
Speaker D:You are ill, Tanya.
Speaker B:Do you not feel thousands of peasants standing at your side as you eat, breathing upon you, staring with wild, famished eyes at the food as you gulp it down?
Speaker B:Do you not hear their children wailing?
Speaker B:Don't you stop eating?
Speaker B:Stop.
Speaker D:Leo.
Speaker D:What is wrong?
Speaker B:Sophie?
Speaker B:Where is Rafki?
Speaker B:In what province?
Speaker D:In Ryazan.
Speaker B:Semion.
Speaker B:Semyon.
Speaker D:What are you calling Semyon for, Leo, if you're sick.
Speaker B:I am sick.
Speaker B:I am going away, that is all.
Speaker B:I'm going to Ryazan.
Speaker C:And Tolstoy rode to the province of Yazan to fight a famine with money.
Speaker C:Indeed.
Speaker C:And from Moscow, a courier also wrote to the province bearing a letter from the Minister of Police to the governor of Lizan province.
Speaker B:The Tsar's minister considered it highly advisable that the movements and activities of Count Leo Tolstoy be carefully watched and reported upon.
Speaker B:Whatever articles he will write on the conditions in Riazan meant for publication will be carefully sent.
Speaker C:But police spies were an old story to Tolstoy.
Speaker C:In fact, he expected them.
Speaker C:But armies of spies could not prevent him from doing what needed to be done.
Speaker B:Now tell me, Raevsky, what's to be done?
Speaker B:First, food.
Speaker B:Food.
Speaker B:Kitchens must be set up.
Speaker B:And then?
Speaker B:Clothing.
Speaker B:The people must have clothing.
Speaker B:And what of the cattle?
Speaker B:The horses.
Speaker B:The cows.
Speaker B:You cannot save the peasant without saving his cattle.
Speaker C:I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker B:We must set up feeding stations for the cattle.
Speaker B:Tell me, how many peasants are you feeding now?
Speaker C:Some 8,000 are all we can manage.
Speaker B:But that is only a handful.
Speaker B:We must double it.
Speaker C:Double it?
Speaker C:With what?
Speaker B:Our funds are being stretched tighter than a drum head now.
Speaker B:Then we must raise more funds.
Speaker C:And how are we to do that?
Speaker B:I could.
Speaker C:Could what?
Speaker B:I could write an appeal.
Speaker B:Funds will come in.
Speaker B:It is an evil to write for money.
Speaker B:But what is one to do?
Speaker B:Tell me, what is one to do?
Speaker C:And from the midst of the slicken area came the first of the famine articles Tolstoy was to write, and it was called the Terrible Question.
Speaker B:In Riosan, a ragged woman came out to us.
Speaker B:She had five children.
Speaker B:The oldest daughter was only 10.
Speaker B:Two was sick.
Speaker B:It must have been from influenza.
Speaker B:This woman lived and fed her children on crusts that she got by begging.
Speaker B:Yet how they lived was a miracle.
Speaker B:For what crusts are there to be found where there is famine?
Speaker B:So can we stand idly by when women and children are dying of starvation and disease?
Speaker B:It is impossible not to give.
Speaker B:All it needs is to be men.
Speaker B:And such men I know there really.
Speaker C:Are, And such men there were.
Speaker C:In spite of censorship that mutilated the article in the Russian publications, funds began to pour in pit, and Tolstoy's stirring appeal loosened purses.
Speaker C:And not only in Russia, but from Western Europe, contributions came, for the article was translated for the foreign press.
Speaker C:And soon, because the whole civilized world answered Leo Tolstoy's appeal, there were enough funds to carry the peasants over two years of famine.
Speaker C:Tolstoy, armed with money, now further betrays his beliefs.
Speaker C:Daily he rides from village to village, his intellect at war with the vast pity in his heart.
Speaker B:Are you warm enough, old man?
Speaker B:Your excellency, you brought fuel, so there's heat.
Speaker B:And you brought food, so there's comfort.
Speaker B:I am warm and grateful to your Excellency.
Speaker B:And you, old woman, how can I complain?
Speaker D:Leona Kolarevich?
Speaker D:Yesterday hunger was like a pair of claws in my stomach.
Speaker D:Now God is good.
Speaker D:We are alive.
Speaker D:Father, I kiss your hand.
Speaker B:No, no, I will not have it.
Speaker B:I will not take gratitude for a betrayal.
Speaker B:Forgive me.
Speaker B:That is how it should be.
Speaker B:Forgive.
Speaker B:My soul cries out in horror at what I.
Speaker C:But the state is concerned with deeds.
Speaker C:The state judges the deed and not the heart.
Speaker C:And Tolstoy's deeds filled the officials with alarm.
Speaker C:To Moscow went daily reports.
Speaker B:Excellency, yesterday Count Tolstoy spoke to the peasants and said, a man needs but to realize that the object of his.
Speaker C:Life is the fulfillment of God's law.
Speaker B:Then the preeminence of that law, framing as it does, is entirely will of necessity, invalidate the authority and restrictions of all human laws.
Speaker C:And the reactionary nobles, who had always been Tolstoy's enemies, felt that the moment was now ripe for a hope.
Speaker C:They'd nourished for years.
Speaker C:To see His Imperial Majesty's Minister of Police.
Speaker B:Come in, my dear Count, come in.
Speaker B:Forgive me for requesting an audience so early.
Speaker B:You know you are always welcome, my dear Count.
Speaker B:What can I do for it?
Speaker B:I've come about Tolstoy.
Speaker C:Oh?
Speaker B:How much longer will his activities be tolerated?
Speaker B:Activities?
Speaker B:Yes, his activities in this.
Speaker B:This crop failure in Ryazan.
Speaker B:His articles have scandalized the holy name of Russia before the world.
Speaker B:We censor all his writings, my dear Count.
Speaker B:And what about those appearing in foreign publications?
Speaker B:What can I do about yours?
Speaker B:Tolstoy has for years carried on attacks against all our established institutions, against the very pillars of our empire.
Speaker B:But he has only preached a Christian pacifism, that is all.
Speaker B:He's never spoken for violence.
Speaker B:Non resistance, I think he calls it.
Speaker B:Perhaps.
Speaker B:But the peasants do not make such fine distinctions.
Speaker B:He says we have robbed them and they believe it.
Speaker B:His Christian words can become battle cries in the peasants mouths.
Speaker B:What would you have me do?
Speaker B:Arrest him on the grounds of blackening Russia's name before the world?
Speaker B:Are you serious?
Speaker B:My dear Count, I do not jest.
Speaker B:But Tolstoy is world famous.
Speaker B:To arrest him would create a greater scandal.
Speaker B:We would become a very monster among nations for arresting a man who is feeding hungry peasants.
Speaker B:He must be silenced.
Speaker B:That I grant.
Speaker B:He must be silent.
Speaker B:But the question is how?
Speaker B:While I and thousands of others overeat on beefsteaks and sturgeons and cover our houses with cloths and carpets, no matter what the learned of the world may say to justify it.
Speaker B:This is a crime committed not once, but perpetually.
Speaker B:Were I a peasant suffering the misery of this famine, I would rise against such conditions.
Speaker C:And this appeared in England and the last phrase to rise against such conditions was a mistranslation.
Speaker C:But in Moscow, the reactionaries cried out that now Tolstoy preached open revolt.
Speaker B:There.
Speaker B:There it is in black and white.
Speaker B:Do you need any more motive for Tolstoy's arrest?
Speaker B:A wild revolutionary trying to steep us all in bloodshed.
Speaker B:I tried to explain to you the difficulties before.
Speaker B:My dear Count Tolstoy cannot be just summarily arrested.
Speaker B:If you do not silence him, then you shall suffer personally.
Speaker B:I shall take it to the emperor himself.
Speaker B:But I granted that to.
Speaker B:To what, sir?
Speaker B:Why, that's it.
Speaker B:That's it exactly.
Speaker B:It's perfect.
Speaker B:What are you talking about?
Speaker B:Silence him.
Speaker B:It's ideal.
Speaker B:A monastery.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:Tolstoy must be confined in a monastery.
Speaker B:If you are ready, I will dictate.
Speaker B:I am ready, Excellency.
Speaker B:So to his Imperial Majesty, Alexander iii.
Speaker B:Because Count Leo Tolstoy has openly called for revolution, because he has for years represented a potential danger to the peace of your majesty's reign.
Speaker B:After careful deliberation with due regard to Tolstoy's international reputation, the problem of how best to render him harmless has been solved.
Speaker B:Your Majesty's minister takes the liberty of suggesting that on his emperor's orders, Count Leo Tolstoy be commanded immediately to proceed to the monastery at Tula and there to be conf.
Speaker C:But the great have friends everywhere and in government ministries.
Speaker C:Secrets quickly become accurate rumors.
Speaker C:Word of what was planned sped to Yasnia Polyana.
Speaker C:And on a winter's day, Tolstoy's wife, Sophie Andreevna, set out for Yazan.
Speaker C:And she found Tolstoy in an obscure village.
Speaker B:It is incredible, coming here in the middle of winter.
Speaker D:I had to see you, Leo.
Speaker B:Are you a young girl to make such a trip?
Speaker B:You couldn't send someone else?
Speaker D:Leo, please stop.
Speaker D:I have important news.
Speaker B:Very well, then.
Speaker B:What is it, Sophie?
Speaker D:I have had word from Moscow.
Speaker D:They are planning to put you away.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker D:Out of the world into a monastery.
Speaker D:Because of your activities and writings here, Count Tobia da Noste resigned it all.
Speaker D:Don't stare.
Speaker D:So it's truly true as I breathe.
Speaker B:Calm yourself, Sophie.
Speaker D:How can I be calm?
Speaker D:It is I who will be alone.
Speaker D:It is my children who will be without their father.
Speaker B:Sophie, stop it.
Speaker B:Stop it and tell me what you know.
Speaker D:A petition is prepared for the emperor requesting him to order you to the monastery of Tula.
Speaker B:They don't dare come home with me.
Speaker D:Leo.
Speaker B:I. I cannot.
Speaker D:Then what am I to do?
Speaker D:You are no longer a young man, Leo.
Speaker D:You will die.
Speaker D:Come home.
Speaker D:I will make it quiet for you.
Speaker D:You will write wonderful things.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker D:Please.
Speaker D:Please.
Speaker B:Sophia.
Speaker B:I cannot come home.
Speaker B:I cannot stop this work.
Speaker B:How will these poor people eat?
Speaker B:How will they keep warm?
Speaker B:How could I live with such a guilt upon my mind?
Speaker C:Meanwhile, a Moscow.
Speaker C:The petition moves upwards through backroom intrigues of ministries.
Speaker C:Like some secret dishonorable treaty, it is smuggled onwards.
Speaker C:Minister, Count and Grand Duke all see it and approved.
Speaker C:Reaction, with all its clamoring power, pushes it toward the Emperor.
Speaker C:From Yazan to Moscow rode Sophie Andrevna, distraught and frightened.
Speaker C:And she came to Count as Alexander Tolstoy, an old woman of 70 and an aunt of Leo Tolstoy.
Speaker C:A woman influential in the Tsar's court.
Speaker C:A woman with a prime Minister's brain.
Speaker D:And he will not leave off his activities, Sophie.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker D:He is like an ox, stubborn.
Speaker D:Nothing moves him.
Speaker D:Does he know who is behind this petition?
Speaker D:He knows everything, Alexandra.
Speaker D:Leo was always headstrong.
Speaker D:You will do something, Alexandra.
Speaker D:Please promise me you will do something.
Speaker D:Oh, I am half out of my mind about it all.
Speaker D:I am an old woman, Sophie.
Speaker D:And old women do not change the minds of emperors.
Speaker D:These lay's.
Speaker D:Young ones.
Speaker D:But you have known the Emperor since he was a child.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker D:But emperors have short memories, my dear.
Speaker D:Then what shall I do?
Speaker D:How can I live without Leo?
Speaker D:30 Years we've been together.
Speaker D:Even when he is angry, even with his strange ideas.
Speaker D:I feel like a young girl about him, Alexandra.
Speaker D:Like a young girl.
Speaker D:No tears, Sophie.
Speaker D:No tears.
Speaker D:Look up at me.
Speaker D:There, that's better.
Speaker D:What shall I do, Alexandra?
Speaker D:Do?
Speaker D:Why, nothing, Sophie.
Speaker D:I will do it.
Speaker D:I'll see the Emperor.
Speaker D:I kiss your hands, Alexandra.
Speaker D:The hem of your dress.
Speaker D:I'll see him.
Speaker D:And I will talk to him, Sophie.
Speaker D:And pray God he remembers the games I played with him when he was a child.
Speaker C:And Countess?
Speaker C:Alexandra wrote a letter, Sire.
Speaker D:An old woman begs an audience with you on matters close to her heart and close to yours.
Speaker D:You have given many happinesses to her.
Speaker D:She comes now to beg one more.
Speaker C:And a note was returned to her.
Speaker D:Come.
Speaker D:The old woman need not come for an audience.
Speaker D:The child will come to her instead.
Speaker D:Alexander Thor of Russia.
Speaker B:His Imperial Majesty.
Speaker B:T. Alexander.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Get up, my dear Countess.
Speaker B:Kneeling is for young women.
Speaker D:Thank you, Sire.
Speaker D:Will you sit down?
Speaker B:Well, what is it you wish, Countess?
Speaker D:One isn't sure of how to begin, Sire.
Speaker B:That is not like you, Count.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:Only a novice of a minister is unsure of how to begin.
Speaker D:It is about a nephew of mine.
Speaker B:A nephew?
Speaker B:Which one, Sire?
Speaker D:In a Few days a petition will be submitted to your majesty for the confinement in a monastery of the most popular man in Russia.
Speaker B:So now I know your nephew, Count Leo Tolstoy.
Speaker D:You have guessed right, sir.
Speaker B:Well, what has he done now?
Speaker B:Conspired against my life?
Speaker D:Oh, heaven forbid, sir.
Speaker D:No, never.
Speaker D:It is because of his activities and writings in Ryazan.
Speaker D:On, on, on, on, on the crop failure.
Speaker B:Well, my dear countess, from what information I have, those activities and writings have been far from innocent.
Speaker D:Perhaps, sire, but if any such confining of Tolstoy be carried out, who would be blamed?
Speaker B:Blamed?
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker D:My nephew, sire, is world famous.
Speaker D:To confine him and silence him would arouse public indignation, not only in Russia, but in Europe as well.
Speaker D:Accusing voices would be raised.
Speaker D:Because it is a monastery will not mitigate the blame, sire, as your managers seem to have thought.
Speaker D:Tolstoy will be shut away from the world, and that is enough.
Speaker D:And the blame for such an act will not be directed against your ministers, sire, nor against your grand dukes, but at the head of the Russian state, sire, it will be directed at you.
Speaker C:And in a few days, when the petition arrived upon the Emperor's desk, peremptorily.
Speaker B:The Tsar said, Do not touch Leotl Stoi.
Speaker B:I do not have the slightest desire of transportation, forming him into a martyr and winning thereby for myself the indignation of all of Roger.
Speaker B:If he is guilty of anything, well, so much the worse for him.
Speaker B:Let it be upon his own conscience.
Speaker C:And Leo Tolstoy can continued to work unmolested in the areas of famine.
Speaker C:And he continued to write, doing those things that were contrary to his belief.
Speaker C:Resisting evil, collecting funds, doing those things that meant his association with a corrupt and evil state.
Speaker C:While he fed and clothed his fellow man, he cried out against the system of life he lived in, proclaiming that the true salvation for men will come only when all men truly become Christians.
Speaker B:This state that means prisons, punishments, social injustices will fall by itself.
Speaker B:It will suffice for men to cease to care about worldly and public affairs.
Speaker B:And immediately, without struggle and without effort, that abnormal organization of life which tortures them and threatens them with still greater misfortunes in the future will crumble and God's kingdom will set in.
Speaker C:Few men are monumental enough to plow up the accepted ideas of their country, are great enough to shake the smug, self satisfied minds of men and prepare them for cataclysms to come.
Speaker C:Tolstoy shook the thinking of his time.
Speaker C:He roused the consciousness of social inequality.
Speaker C:He raised the poor the miserable and the downtrodden to the stage of human events.
Speaker C:In his time he became the conscience of the civilized world.
Speaker C:His voice thundered against injustice.
Speaker C:The road toward democratic justice is a long and bitter road.
Speaker C:We who are upon it today, that know our children will be upon it tomorrow, should be proud of those who came before.
Speaker C:We should be proud and uplifted because Leo Tolstoy also came this sway.
Speaker C:The NBC University of the Air has brought you Chapter eight of the new historical series We Came this Way.
Speaker C:Next week We Came this Way will present Gambetta A Republic Is Born.
Speaker C:Would you like to know more of the life and times of Tolstoy, Whitman, and Hugo?
Speaker C:A handbook containing life stories of 13 great leaders in the struggle for human liberty has been prepared as an interesting supplement to the broadcast series.
Speaker C:To obtain your copy, write We Came this Way Address your requests to Columbia University Press, Station J, NY 27 and enclosed 25 cents in coin to cover costs of printing and mailing.
Speaker C:Tonight's script was written by Raytheon Hayes and was directed by Homer Heck.
Speaker C:Original music was composed by Emil Soderstrom and conducted by Joseph Galicio.
Speaker C:Members of the cast included Clifton Utley as narrator, Philip Lord is Tolstoy and Alma Platt as Sophie.
Speaker C:Others in the cast were Virginia Payne, Gilbert Ferguson, Barnett Franks, Jim Goss, Tom Post and Fred Sullivan.
Speaker C:This series is presented each week as a public service feature of the National Broadcasting Company and its affiliated stations.
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Speaker A:Most of the episodes were featuring folks from the 20th century and not necessarily those from the 19th century.
Speaker A:So being able to find Tolstoy here was quite a find.
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