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Transform Your Life in Minutes: The Simple Art of Daily Prayer
Episode 5727th February 2024 • CROWD Church Livestream • Crowd Church
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In this thought-provoking talk from our series "Becoming Whole," Dan Orange explores the transformative power of daily prayer in our lives. As we delve into the essence of prayer and its impact on our spiritual health, we uncover the simplicity and depth of connecting with God on a daily basis. This service is an invitation to integrate prayer into the fabric of our daily lives, moving beyond traditional notions of prayer to embrace it as a dynamic conversation with the divine.

Key Highlights:

  1. Understanding Prayer: Unpacking the definition of prayer as more than just a request or thanksgiving, but as an intimate communion with God.
  2. The Importance of Daily Conversation: Drawing parallels between maintaining relationships through communication and nurturing our relationship with God through daily prayer.
  3. Prayer as a Habit: Discussing the challenges and rewards of incorporating prayer into our daily routines and the impact of consistency on our spiritual journey.
  4. The Biblical Basis for Continuous Prayer: Reflecting on Paul's instruction to "pray without ceasing" and its implications for our spiritual lives.
  5. Overcoming Barriers to Prayer: Addressing common obstacles to regular prayer, including busyness and uncertainty about how to pray.
  6. The Transformative Power of Prayer: Highlighting the role of prayer in achieving wholeness, as defined by a state of completeness where nothing is missing or broken.

Key Takeaways:

  • Prayer is a pathway to deepening our relationship with God, akin to the daily conversations that strengthen bonds with loved ones.
  • Consistency in prayer is more crucial than the quantity of time spent praying.
  • Incorporating prayer into daily life can transform our perspective, decision-making, and overall spiritual health.
  • Starting the day with prayer can set a positive tone and align our actions with God’s will.
  • The act of prayer is a journey towards wholeness, bringing peace, clarity, and a deeper connection with God.

Join Dan Orange in this enlightening talk as we explore the simple yet profound act of daily prayer and its capacity to transform our lives. Through practical insights and biblical wisdom, discover how the art of prayer can lead you to a more fulfilled, spiritually healthy life.

For more insightful talks and resources on living a life of faith, visit our website at crowd.church.

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Matt Edmundson:

Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service.

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We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps

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us live a more meaningful life.

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We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place

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where you can contribute and grow.

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Our service This will last about an hour, and in a few seconds you'll

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meet our hosts for our service who will introduce today's talk.

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After the talk, we will have a time of worship and reflection, after which

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we head into Conversation Street where we look at your stories and questions

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that you've posted in the comments.

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Now, we want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church and we've got a

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few ways in which you can do just that.

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Firstly, you can engage with Crowd from any device during our live

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stream and if you're up for it.

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Why not invite a few friends over and experience the service together?

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Church is all about connecting with God and connecting with others.

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And one of the easiest ways for you to do that is join one of our

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mid week groups where we meet.

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Online together to catch up and discover more about the amazingness of Christ.

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You can also subscribe to our fairly new podcast called What's The Story,

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where we deep dive into stories of faith and courage from everyday people.

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All of these things can be found on our website at www.

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church, or you can reach out to us on social media at crowd.

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what your next steps to take are, why not head over to our website, crowd.

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Next, for more details, and now, the moment you've been

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waiting for is here, our online church service starts right now.

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Hello, good evening and welcome to Crowd Church.

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My name's Matt.

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Next to me is the beautiful Claire.

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done, Matt.

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Sorry about that, ladies and gentlemen.

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If you're just joining us, I'll just give us a few more minutes.

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We're about 15 minutes late starting.

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Of course, if you're watching this on catch up or you're listening

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to the audio, it won't make any difference to you at all.

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But the live stream, every time it would start, like within

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five seconds, it would go, yeah, we're not live streaming anymore.

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And for some reason, when I put the old USB hub back in, It worked.

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So yes, don't quite get that but

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we are here.

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We're still there.

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It is.

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It is

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what it is.

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So welcome for sticking.

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Yeah, well done for sticking with us, Matt and Nicola . Yeah.

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Thank you for joining in and if you can watch this and if you can hear

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us do let us know in the comments.

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'cause we actually have no idea.

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It's on my computer here, so I'm assuming we're on Facebook and I'm assuming

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we're on YouTube now, you could even

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phone me if you want, always are

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open, phone a friend.

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So yes, warm welcome to you.

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Now, if you are new to Crowd Church, we're an online church and normally we get

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together when things work well and dandy.

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And so here we are, we're just carrying on the Becoming Whole

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series, which we've just started.

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Yay, well done Freya.

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That is good to know Freya, are you watching us on YouTube?

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If I'm honest with you, but that's just another story.

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You can't see this Freya, but a little picture comes up and it says next to

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your name and it's got a little R.

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What do you think it might be?

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Restream, but I'm, I don't know if I'm restreaming this,

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it's all just way over my head.

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I just come, I knit, again.

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Matt said today, he was like, are you going to bring your knitting

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over?

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Just do it.

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No, we're

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not.

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We're professional, we're

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serious.

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Series about Jesus.

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Yeah, series about Jesus.

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About the good Lord.

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And that's why we're here.

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Well done for bringing that round, that was a good segue.

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So we are doing a series on becoming whole.

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We are in part two of that series, yes, we are going to be

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carrying on that conversation.

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Yeah,

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looking forward to hearing what Dan's got

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to say.

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Yeah, Dan Orange is talking about prayer.

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Good.

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Which is going to be good.

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So we are going to bring Dan's talk on, then Claire and I will

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be back for Conversation Street after that talk is finished.

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And hopefully in the meantime, I'll fix all the remaining technical issues.

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So I'm gonna push this button on my pad and we'll see you in just a few minutes.

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The simple art of daily prayer.

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Welcome to the second talk in our new series, Becoming Whole.

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How can we become whole?

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If you haven't heard the first talk about righteousness then, pop over to crowd.

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church and have a listen.

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It was a great talk and Matt also gives us a brief overview of this new series.

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Today, we're looking at prayer in the context of becoming whole, and

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how can daily prayer transform my life, how can praying change you.

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What is prayer?

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Perhaps that's a good place to start.

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If we look in a dictionary, then most class prayer is a request, a petition,

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a dress, or thanks to some deity.

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But one definition adds another element, which I think is key.

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A communion with God.

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Communion to me takes it from a formal request to a conversation.

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An act we feel we must do for some reason, whether out of duty or tradition

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or circumstance, to something that is a desire to learn more about God and desire

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to improve our relationship with Him.

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I'm married and if I didn't talk to my wife, I don't think it

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would improve our relationship.

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In fact, I have first hand knowledge that It does quite the opposite.

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If I'm quiet, if I try to avoid a subject, it doesn't bring us closer together.

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I don't get to know how my wife is feeling.

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She doesn't get to know what's going on with me.

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We might both give each other gestures or actions, but it

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probably don't really help.

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Talking does though.

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I learn about her, she learns about me.

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Prayer is a big way of learning about God and learning about myself.

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And using that same analogy, my relationship with my wife is

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improved by conversations every day.

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And dare I say, even multiple conversations a day.

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Consistency brings us together.

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Hopefully issues get resolved sooner than later.

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And if we're in constant communication, it's so much easier to grow

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together, to learn about each other.

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Your relationship with God is the same and it can be improved with consistency.

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Consistency, though, can often be where we get stuck.

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Do you find the concept of daily prayer daunting?

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How can you incorporate it into your busy life?

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Perhaps this is all new to you and just the idea of praying on

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your own for no reason is strange.

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Does daily chat with God help?

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In Paul's letters to the Thessalonians, 1 Thessalonians 5, 17, says this,

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it says, Pray without ceasing.

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A very small verse, just three words.

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Mind you, not as small as the verse before, which says, Rejoice Always.

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Probably harder to complement than many talks about prayer.

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Rejoice Always.

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Wow.

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But that's another talk.

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Perhaps we should do that some other time.

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Back to this verse, Pray Without Ceasing.

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It seems to me that if Paul wrote these words, and he thought it was possible,

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and important, perhaps, without ceasing is a long way ahead in our spiritual lives.

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But it.

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It tells us that it's possible and something to work towards and if possible,

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then it probably takes more forms than getting on our knees by our bed and

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spending some time giving God our worries.

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If we did that 24 7, we wouldn't last long physically and mentally.

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Perhaps then it's not just formal talks, but informal requests, thanksgiving,

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thoughts in our daily lives.

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It's a conversation with someone that's willing and wanting to hear us.

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And to talk to us.

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Prayer doesn't have to be formal.

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It doesn't have to be reciting the Lord's Prayer or perfect words.

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That could be a very good place to start.

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And it's great to hear those words and have those words in our head.

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The most important thing is God wants to hear us.

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He wants to know our heart, our needs, our desires, our petitions.

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Our praises and thanksgivings, don't worry about what to say, words or

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no words, be quiet and wait for God.

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It's a beautiful time and I believe never a wasted time.

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This series is all about wholeness and if I spend time with someone

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I get closer to that person.

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If I spend time with God, I get closer to God.

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And if we're, as we're made by Him, designed by Him, then it

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makes sense to me that knowing Him is a completion of that creation.

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The reason for us and God to exist.

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It's making us whole and prayer is that time with God.

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Daily prayer is a habit.

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I pray every day.

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This is not a boast.

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I love God.

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I want to commune with Him.

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I want to know Him more, but it's still something I've learned and I'm learning.

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I want Him in my life and I need Him more in my life.

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Sometimes it is a fleeting prayer.

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Sometimes my day is a more conscious knowledge of being

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in His presence and communing.

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Often it's hurried.

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Often time and tasks take over.

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However, since preparing this talk, it's been great for me as I can't

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do a talk about prayer and not pray.

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That would be hypocritical.

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So as a consequence, my prayer life has grown, not in a massive

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revelation way, but inconsistency.

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So thanks guys.

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Me and my wife, ever since we got married, we pray together

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each night before we sleep.

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It's just something we've always done, and if I'm away or one of us goes to

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bed early, then it's a strange end to the day, it's become a habit, and to

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be honest, it's an easier one, it's a time to give thanks for the day, often

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to give him our worries for tomorrow.

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But when thinking about this talk, if you're, especially if you're in

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Christian circles, or you've read any books about men and women of God, men

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and women that pray, they always seem to get up early to pray, daily in the

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morning, and I've found this hard.

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Sometimes I pray in the morning, sometimes I don't.

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I give myself valid reasons every time, I'm not a morning person, I've got to

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get up early for work anyway, I went to bed late, I'll pray later in the day.

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All totally valid, but when praying about this and thinking about it,

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a thought came across my mind.

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What happens in the morning, every morning?

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The day starts.

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Profound, eh?

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It was to me.

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Anyway, the day starts, nothing else has happened, and how about

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if I start my day with God?

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If I want my day to be influenced by God, if I want to see things happen

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in my life, wouldn't it be good?

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If I started it with him, it seems to make sense to me.

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I'll leave this with you.

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Not saying you need to get up at 6am every day, otherwise prayer is not going

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to work, but for me, really spoke to me and helped me with morning prayer.

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What, when else can I pray?

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So prayer does take time.

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It's an act.

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It occupies space in our lives.

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And is your life busy?

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I should imagine it is.

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The 101 things that need to be done, work, kids, shopping,

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Facebook, studying, TV, food.

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There's a passage in the Bible where Jesus meets two ladies, Mary and Martha.

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The Message Translation in Luke 10 puts it like this.

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Jesus entered a village.

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A woman by the name of Martha welcomed him and made him feel quite at home.

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She had a sister, Mary, who sat before the master, hanging on every word he said.

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But Martha was pulled away by all she had to do.

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in the kitchen.

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Later she stepped in, interrupting them.

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Master, don't you care that my sister abandoned the kitchen to me?

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Tell her to lend me a hand.

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And the master said, Martha, dear Martha, you're fussing far too much and

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getting yourself worked up over nothing.

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One thing only is essential, and Mary's chosen it.

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It's the main course and won't be taken from her.

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Martha was missing out on spending time with Jesus because she thought

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the cooking was more important.

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Life is busy, but sometimes we make it busier than it needs to be at that time.

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Sometimes we need to see what's really important.

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Did God just speak to me?

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Hang on, got to check this email.

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Got to do this, I need to do this thing.

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Whoa, stop, wait, listen.

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Email can probably wait, other things can probably wait.

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Times in my life when I've just waited and let there be that little

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bit of time for God to speak.

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It's improved my whole day.

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It's when God just reveals something to me that maybe I would have missed, or

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maybe I had to wait much longer to learn.

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Perhaps there's a time in your day when you're normally on your own, but your

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routine is to fill it with something else.

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For me, it's when I'm driving, when I get in the van to drive for work.

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Often I have the radio on or an audio book, but sometimes I have to use a

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bit of self control and turn it off and calm myself and spend time with God.

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Often not for long, perhaps not the whole journey, but

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it's allowing God into my day.

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There's one more point I'd like to make about busyness.

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Like I said, we can actively make ourselves busy to fill those quiet times.

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Sometimes there's a reason behind it.

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Perhaps you're running from God, you're running because you know when you

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come before him and quiet yourself, you'll need to sort something out.

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Perhaps God is just prompting you to get right with your friend.

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Perhaps you need to forgive your neighbor and you're delaying that time to spend

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with him as you know he'll prompt you.

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So we get to know God more, he teaches, he guides us and perhaps

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The thing is prompting you to do is hard, perhaps he's asked you to give

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something up as it's distracting you, it's ironic, it's working.

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Or he's asked you to do something for someone and you're not sure

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you can, or you're not sure that person really deserves it.

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But we know from Jonah, running from God doesn't always end

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well, unless you like fish guts.

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It's time to check the busyness of your life and see if it's valid.

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Is it necessary or are you stalling?

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I've talked a lot about when to pray, but perhaps not much how to pray.

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Perhaps you've not experienced a mention of prayer like this

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before and you're asking isn't prayer just a form of meditation?

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If we go back to talking about prayer as a relationship, then it's

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about talking and listening, about knowing God and knowing ourselves.

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Meditation can be a good thing.

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It's a good thing to quiet our minds, to relax.

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However, sometimes the goal of meditation can be to empty our minds.

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But if we empty our minds, there becomes a hole, and it's

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gonna get filled with something.

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If we quiet our thoughts, we can allow God to speak.

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It's great to meditate on Him and His works.

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Philippians 4 says this, Finally, brethren, whatever things are true,

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whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are

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pure, Whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there's

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any virtue and if there's anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things.

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The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do,

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and the God of Peace will be with you.

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Meditate on Him, and the God of Peace will be with you.

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Psalm 46 says, Be still, and know that I am God.

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Often words aren't necessary.

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God speaks to us in the stillness.

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But, best way to find out about praying is to try it.

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My dad is a real big prayer and I know that if I asked him the

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secret pair of prayer He would say, Dan, to learn to pray.

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In fact, he has said that to me.

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Perhaps that should be my whole talk.

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Boom, five words.

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Anyway, if you're not watching this Live, then why don't you

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just hit pause now, try it out.

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Let this be the time to talk to him.

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You can talk out loud, talk in your mind, or just still, stay still and wait, or

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it's night before bed, before the things of the day, or the things of tomorrow,

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can fool your mind, ask God to be there.

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Like anything, we can't be perfect at something straight off.

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In fact, until we get to heaven, I doubt we'll be perfect.

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We won't be, but we have the most gracious teacher.

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What should we pray?

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Prayer, It's a great time and the best place to be honest.

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We can't hide from God.

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He knows our thoughts, He knows our struggles, but He wants to hear them.

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Have you read of some of King David's Psalms?

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He knew how to cry out to God.

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He knew how to be honest.

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Here's Psalm 42, again in the Message Translation.

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He says, Sometimes I ask God, my rock solid God, why did you let me down?

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Why am I walking around in tears, harassed by enemies?

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Why are they out for the kill, these tormentors, with their

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obscenities, taunting day after day?

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Where is this God of yours?

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Why are you down in the dumps, dear soul?

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Why are you crying the blues?

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Fix my eyes on God.

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Soon I'll be praising again.

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He puts a smile on my face.

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He's God.

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God is God.

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He's able to cope with our crying, our confusion, our anger.

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He wants that honesty.

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It doesn't matter about all fancy words.

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He wants to hear our hearts.

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How often, when you pray, do you hold back from God?

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Hold back your fears and your doubts?

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Even Jesus, when he was about to be crucified, told God his feelings.

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He fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him.

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Abba Father, he said, everything is possible for you.

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Take this cup from me, yet not my will, but what you will.

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Perhaps you yourself are going through a tough time at the moment.

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I can only encourage you to bring it before God.

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Tell Him your struggles.

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Share your fears with him.

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He says my yoke is easy.

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Perhaps it's time to give him your worries.

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Take his lighter yoke.

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I may have said this a few times already, but the great thing about

Dan Orange:

prayer is it's a conversation.

Dan Orange:

What's the point of praying if we don't think he'll answer?

Dan Orange:

Some might say it's crazy to expect God to answer.

Dan Orange:

You have an imaginary friend, you talk, oh, to, okay you have an imaginary

Dan Orange:

friend, you, and he talks to you, now, that's crazy if we believe in a

Dan Orange:

God, and we pray to him, what's more crazy, that he actually talks back,

Dan Orange:

or we pray not wanting an answer?

Dan Orange:

There was a man called Rhys Howells, and he was known as an intercessor.

Dan Orange:

His calling from God was to pray, and pray he did, and he

Dan Orange:

saw amazing answers to prayer.

Dan Orange:

He said the meaning of prayer was answers.

Dan Orange:

We pray to be close to God, we pray to get answers.

Dan Orange:

Sometimes we pray, sometimes answers to questions about Him, sometimes

Dan Orange:

physical answers, provision, healing.

Dan Orange:

God has made us spirit, soul and body.

Dan Orange:

Our spirit is the key to a spiritual life, a life with the Father.

Dan Orange:

Psalm 42 verse 7 says, Deep calls unto deep.

Dan Orange:

At the noise of your waterfalls, all your waves and billows have gone over me.

Dan Orange:

The Lord will command his loving kindness in the daytime, and in the

Dan Orange:

night his song shall be with me.

Dan Orange:

A prayer to the God of my life.

Dan Orange:

Deep calls unto deep.

Dan Orange:

Our spirit calls to God's spirit.

Dan Orange:

Prayer brings the spirit life into our everyday life.

Dan Orange:

Matt talked last week about wholeness and gave this definition.

Dan Orange:

Biblical wholeness then is nothing missing, nothing

Dan Orange:

broken, complete in every part.

Dan Orange:

Through and through, no part wanting or unsound.

Dan Orange:

What better way to have no part wanting by listening to God and

Dan Orange:

asking Him to reveal those things that are wanting in our lives.

Dan Orange:

Ask Him to fill us, to complete us, to bring us peace.

Dan Orange:

Hopefully this talk has helped you.

Dan Orange:

Some other great talks on prayer here on Crowd, so just go to crowd.

Dan Orange:

church and search prayer and you'll come across them.

Dan Orange:

Thank you.

Dan Orange:

He

Matt Edmundson:

says that.

Matt Edmundson:

Where's the camera gone?

Matt Edmundson:

There we go.

Matt Edmundson:

Could hear us but couldn't see us, ladies and gentlemen.

Matt Edmundson:

Welcome back to Crowd.

Claire Glare:

Bit like the Lord sometimes, isn't it?

Claire Glare:

Can hear him but can't see him.

Matt Edmundson:

Or I can see him and not hear him sometimes as well.

Matt Edmundson:

It just works both ways, doesn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

That analogy.

Matt Edmundson:

Welcome back.

Matt Edmundson:

Firstly, can I say thank you to all of you that found us during the talk.

Matt Edmundson:

The comments are coming.

Matt Edmundson:

It seems, Claire, I don't know if you picked this up.

Matt Edmundson:

You were knitting while she was listening to the talk.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm busy.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, he's sorting stuff out.

Matt Edmundson:

It seems that we are going, can we blame Claire?

Matt Edmundson:

No,

Claire Glare:

Matt, we can't.

Claire Glare:

I need all the help I can get.

Claire Glare:

I've not made much progress, frankly, in three weeks.

Claire Glare:

I was going

Matt Edmundson:

to say, it looks exactly the same as it did when you asked it.

Matt Edmundson:

So rude.

Matt Edmundson:

So rude.

Matt Edmundson:

Yes, we seem to be streaming twice now.

Matt Edmundson:

Actually three times.

Matt Edmundson:

We're on Facebook and twice on YouTube.

Matt Edmundson:

I don't know.

Matt Edmundson:

I just, I don't know.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm just grateful we're on the air.

Matt Edmundson:

So it's good to be with you.

Matt Edmundson:

So welcome to everyone in the comments.

Matt Edmundson:

It's been great.

Matt Edmundson:

It's been great.

Matt Edmundson:

I love what Matt said.

Matt Edmundson:

He said, ironic that the subject was prayer and we were all praying you would

Matt Edmundson:

actually get the live stream working.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Claire was, you were the Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

You just sat in the J You just started to pray.

Matt Edmundson:

Okay.

Matt Edmundson:

And I just started to fiddle.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

it.

Claire Glare:

Faith without actions, wasn't it?

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

We need both faith with Yes, we do.

Claire Glare:

and to be honest, you weren't doing the fiddling.

Claire Glare:

I was doing the

Matt Edmundson:

praying.

Matt Edmundson:

And to be honest with you, it's a great, it is a great example of it

Matt Edmundson:

because you were praying, the guys were praying and I'm sitting here going, we

Matt Edmundson:

must have tried it like six or seven times going, I don't understand it.

Matt Edmundson:

We restarted the computer, we did all kinds of stuff.

Matt Edmundson:

And then it was like.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm not going to say I saw the, the angels appearing with a sign or I heard

Matt Edmundson:

voices or any of that sort of thing.

Matt Edmundson:

It's I just wonder if it's the USB hub.

Matt Edmundson:

Don't know why I thought that.

Matt Edmundson:

Cause why would it be?

Matt Edmundson:

I don't actually know.

Matt Edmundson:

And so yeah, so thank you, Lord.

Matt Edmundson:

Thank you that we're here.

Matt Edmundson:

Thank you for praying for everybody that, was praying

Matt Edmundson:

we'd get online and here we are.

Matt Edmundson:

So a warm welcome to you.

Matt Edmundson:

Did you have a beer before the live stream?

Matt Edmundson:

No, absolutely

Claire Glare:

not.

Claire Glare:

So drove here.

Claire Glare:

Yeah, Annie, but we did

Matt Edmundson:

watch the end of the match and we did I watched

Matt Edmundson:

the whole match, but yeah If

Claire Glare:

you're new to the live stream, sorry to say if

Matt Edmundson:

you are not a Liverpool fan I am And we've

Matt Edmundson:

just got a spoiler alert.

Matt Edmundson:

If you don't want to know the results, just put your

Matt Edmundson:

fingers in your ears right now.

Matt Edmundson:

We did win.

Matt Edmundson:

The Cup Final against Chelsea, and I was shouting and dancing and I was

Matt Edmundson:

very grateful to the good Lord, and the prayer answered, actually, that's

Matt Edmundson:

a really interesting point, actually, somebody I remember, I think that

Claire Glare:

praying for football team, surely, come on.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, it's a really interesting question, isn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

Because I remember years ago, when I first became a Christian, I I was like 18.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And I was a long time ago now.

Matt Edmundson:

A long time ago.

Matt Edmundson:

Me and Noah mates.

Matt Edmundson:

And what happened was I was working in this children's home in North Carolina

Matt Edmundson:

and there was a guy called Birdie.

Matt Edmundson:

Birdie.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm still in touch with him via Facebook.

Matt Edmundson:

. It's just, it's such a legend, that guy.

Matt Edmundson:

And he was a big, and probably still is, I'm guessing, a big Washington

Matt Edmundson:

Redskins fan, although I don't think they call the Washington Redskins anymore.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

But they.

Matt Edmundson:

He was a big fan of this American football club, and he

Matt Edmundson:

would pray before every match.

Matt Edmundson:

He would just bow his head and go, Lord, just pray for this team, pray you

Matt Edmundson:

would help them play, blah, blah, blah.

Matt Edmundson:

And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense to me.

Matt Edmundson:

Because why?

Matt Edmundson:

Why would you pray, why would you think God would hear you?

Matt Edmundson:

What happens if someone is praying for the other team?

Matt Edmundson:

Does your prayer cancel out their prayer?

Matt Edmundson:

Does their, does God like you more than them?

Matt Edmundson:

And there's just all these questions in my head.

Matt Edmundson:

And Birdie just looked at me and he said, I don't know if I'd want

Matt Edmundson:

to worship a God where I can't pray to him about everything.

Matt Edmundson:

And I thought there goes that then.

Claire Glare:

That's a really good response.

Claire Glare:

Because it is, because you're involving God in every area of your life.

Claire Glare:

And it's important.

Claire Glare:

See, it was important for him to, that his team won.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

It's important for you that Liverpool won tonight.

Claire Glare:

It wasn't important for me.

Claire Glare:

I didn't pray about it.

Claire Glare:

That's fine.

Claire Glare:

I didn't even know it was happening.

Claire Glare:

Maybe I would have prayed.

Claire Glare:

I don't know.

Claire Glare:

It is, it's important to pray about everything that, what Dan was saying.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

I love Dan's talk.

Claire Glare:

It was great, wasn't it?

Claire Glare:

It was, he just talks so, it's with such integrity, isn't it?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, it is.

Claire Glare:

I think you can just see the presence of God in Dan.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And obviously we've got the privilege of knowing him in the flesh, as it were but

Claire Glare:

he can see that the power of prayer in his

Matt Edmundson:

voice, can't you?

Matt Edmundson:

Yes, you can.

Matt Edmundson:

And he's always praying, Dan.

Matt Edmundson:

He's one of those guys that, I was praying about this, I was praying about that.

Matt Edmundson:

So he definitely walks the walk, and talks the talk.

Matt Edmundson:

He's a really great guy.

Matt Edmundson:

And I loved his talk.

Matt Edmundson:

I love what his quote from his dad.

Claire Glare:

Also another

Matt Edmundson:

legend.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Dave, Dan's dad.

Matt Edmundson:

I've known, you've known him for years.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And I'm just going to change this light because it's a little bit bright.

Matt Edmundson:

It's a little bit too dark.

Matt Edmundson:

There we go.

Matt Edmundson:

There we go.

Matt Edmundson:

Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not.

Matt Edmundson:

That looks no different to me.

Matt Edmundson:

It's just not as bright in my eyes now.

Matt Edmundson:

But Dan's dad to learn to pray.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

I thought it's very Dave Orange, isn't it really?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

It's really profound, isn't it?

Claire Glare:

Actually to learn to do something you have to do it.

Claire Glare:

And, but what Dan was saying as well was that With God, we have the

Claire Glare:

most gracious teacher, don't we?

Claire Glare:

And he was talking about someone who is willing and wanting

Claire Glare:

for us to communicate with us.

Claire Glare:

And I was like, yeah, that is so true.

Claire Glare:

Whenever.

Claire Glare:

Whenever we just turn our faces, just that, even like 10 degrees, he's yeah.

Claire Glare:

In your face, isn't he?

Claire Glare:

Not in a bad way, but not in a, in a really lovely

Matt Edmundson:

way.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Absolutely.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

So to learn, to pray is the top tip of the day.

Matt Edmundson:

And it's, it is actually really true.

Matt Edmundson:

It's like you wanna learn to walk.

Matt Edmundson:

You gotta walk, you can learn all the theory.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Going back to another North Carolina.

Matt Edmundson:

No, this is pre North Carolina.

Matt Edmundson:

But formative

Claire Glare:

times.

Claire Glare:

Formative times.

Claire Glare:

And for me, it was, I was in Bolivia when I was 18, 19 you're learning,

Claire Glare:

you're, and they're, they are, they're what makes you, aren't they?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, they are.

Matt Edmundson:

These events.

Matt Edmundson:

Tell us your story.

Matt Edmundson:

I used to fly.

Matt Edmundson:

What like?

Matt Edmundson:

Airplanes.

Matt Edmundson:

Sorry.

Matt Edmundson:

Not like Peter Pan.

Matt Edmundson:

I don't know

Claire Glare:

where I was going with that.

Claire Glare:

What, like Icarus?

Claire Glare:

Icarus.

Matt Edmundson:

Like Superman.

Matt Edmundson:

No, I used to fly airplanes.

Matt Edmundson:

I don't think I knew that.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, little chipmunks.

Matt Edmundson:

I was with the RAF

Claire Glare:

cadets.

Claire Glare:

Sorry, chipmunks.

Claire Glare:

I'm on Alvin and the Chipmunks.

Claire Glare:

Yeah, sorry,

Matt Edmundson:

Chipmunks.

Matt Edmundson:

Different, yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Different.

Matt Edmundson:

What, is that a type of plane?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, a little two seater plane.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, cool.

Matt Edmundson:

And before I've

Claire Glare:

liked to go up in a two seater.

Claire Glare:

Oh, that's great fun.

Claire Glare:

I've been in a six seater.

Claire Glare:

I

Matt Edmundson:

love that.

Matt Edmundson:

That's great.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

That's great.

Matt Edmundson:

Flew this little two seater.

Matt Edmundson:

And you got to fly them with retired RAF pilots.

Matt Edmundson:

So they would In the States?

Matt Edmundson:

No, this was pre North Carolina.

Matt Edmundson:

Sorry.

Matt Edmundson:

This was a RAF Stay with the program.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, stay with the program.

Matt Edmundson:

And so I would fly these planes, right?

Matt Edmundson:

Now, what they did, before they would let you up in the plane, is they gave you a

Matt Edmundson:

book, there was a lot of stuff you had to read, there was, I could understand

Matt Edmundson:

the theory, I could understand, low pressure, high pressure, I can understand

Matt Edmundson:

the speed of the air over the wing, which makes it fly, and all this sort of stuff.

Matt Edmundson:

But it wasn't until I actually got in the plane, the theory, all the theory didn't

Matt Edmundson:

do me any good, until I got in the plane and went, ah, this is how you fly a plane,

Matt Edmundson:

and then it became a bad experience.

Matt Edmundson:

So knowledge was helpful, and knowing about prayer, knowing about the different

Matt Edmundson:

types of prayer of incession, prayer of faith, all these sorts of things that

Matt Edmundson:

people want to get tied up into, all the theory, all the theology, it's great, but

Matt Edmundson:

it's not until you actually start praying that it actually makes a difference.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you see

Claire Glare:

what I mean?

Claire Glare:

But also because you feel the exhilaration, you feel the adventure.

Claire Glare:

You feel the joy, all of those, and the fear, all of

Matt Edmundson:

those.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Just to be clear, because it's in the comments, I did not

Matt Edmundson:

know that you flew Chipmunks.

Matt Edmundson:

Chipmunks is a name for a plane.

Matt Edmundson:

I didn't actually, not the little creatures.

Matt Edmundson:

No flight.

Matt Edmundson:

No . That's

Claire Glare:

tumbleweed

Matt Edmundson:

joke.

Matt Edmundson:

. Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

No.

Matt Edmundson:

The little planes.

Matt Edmundson:

What was really just to, on that story, the first time I flew

Matt Edmundson:

on that plane the pilot, the retired pilot, he sat behind you?

Matt Edmundson:

I sat in front, was I sat behind him.

Matt Edmundson:

He was, I can't remember which way it was.

Matt Edmundson:

Anyway, I was in the plane and, he was flying around.

Matt Edmundson:

He's we're gonna learn to do the loop.

Matt Edmundson:

The loop.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm like, first time I'm flying in a plane.

Matt Edmundson:

No way.

Matt Edmundson:

And he's he said, is this your first time?

Matt Edmundson:

I said yes sir.

Matt Edmundson:

It's the first time in the plane.

Matt Edmundson:

He says, oh, we're gonna learn.

Matt Edmundson:

We will have a little bit of fun.

Matt Edmundson:

He said, we'll fly straight, we'll fly left, we'll fly right.

Matt Edmundson:

And then you're gonna do a loop.

Matt Edmundson:

The loop.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm like, come on.

Matt Edmundson:

So he get in the plane, we're flying around and he does

Matt Edmundson:

a loop, the loop with me.

Matt Edmundson:

And he's put your hand on the stick.

Matt Edmundson:

You've got to pull back on that stick.

Matt Edmundson:

If you don't pull back on that stick, that's yes, you're

Matt Edmundson:

in all kinds of trouble.

Matt Edmundson:

And so sure enough, we started to do a dive to get the speed and I pulled back on

Matt Edmundson:

the stick didn't pull back quick enough.

Matt Edmundson:

So chipmunks are a gravity fed engine, which means if you're upside down, the

Matt Edmundson:

petrol is not getting to the engine.

Matt Edmundson:

So what does it do?

Matt Edmundson:

Stalls.

Matt Edmundson:

That's what it does.

Matt Edmundson:

And so the plane stalls.

Matt Edmundson:

A bit like tonight.

Matt Edmundson:

A bit like the live stream, yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Stopped.

Matt Edmundson:

Just stopped.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, no.

Matt Edmundson:

And yeah, we're falling out of the sky like this.

Matt Edmundson:

He says, do you want me to take over?

Matt Edmundson:

I said, no, sir.

Matt Edmundson:

Just tell me what to do.

Matt Edmundson:

And what, and did he?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

He's totally calm.

Matt Edmundson:

He's just like totally, yeah, this is what you gotta do to get out of it.

Matt Edmundson:

Cool.

Matt Edmundson:

So we got out of it and carried on flying.

Matt Edmundson:

Great fun.

Matt Edmundson:

Loved it.

Matt Edmundson:

Anyway.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah we've digressed.

Matt Edmundson:

I've totally digressed.

Matt Edmundson:

We've done a loop the loop.

Matt Edmundson:

Bringing it back.

Matt Edmundson:

Come in.

Matt Edmundson:

The point of that story is, you've got to pray.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah,

Claire Glare:

because otherwise you're in deep.

Claire Glare:

And you're stalling.

Claire Glare:

But I love that thing about I've heard, and it is a challenge isn't it, about

Claire Glare:

You know what how big are our prayers?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, if we can fulfill them, then are they really big enough?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, that's right.

Claire Glare:

And so yeah, go on.

Claire Glare:

I like that little loop the loop there.

Claire Glare:

I think I've pulled it back.

Claire Glare:

You've

Matt Edmundson:

totally pulled it back.

Matt Edmundson:

I love that.

Matt Edmundson:

Are your prayers big enough?

Matt Edmundson:

What do you mean though by big prayers?

Claire Glare:

So I think it's things it is, it's things that we couldn't answer,

Claire Glare:

could we, so I can pray, Oh Lord, I pray, give me the opportunity to to talk

Claire Glare:

with this person about you, to, make them some dinner or something like that.

Claire Glare:

It's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, you can just do that.

Claire Glare:

We can just do that.

Claire Glare:

We can do it, go and knock on the door.

Claire Glare:

Oh, you're in, hi, here's some dinner.

Claire Glare:

But if we're talking about, praying for our whole street or we're, praying for

Claire Glare:

a whole city or a country that we've never been to and really, but really

Claire Glare:

praying about it and investing in it with our money, maybe as well, cause

Claire Glare:

nothing hits you quite like whether you put your pounds or your dollars

Claire Glare:

or whatever it is, wherever you are.

Claire Glare:

I think, yeah that, that speaks, doesn't

Matt Edmundson:

it?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, I think it's interesting, isn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

Because there are Something that costs you.

Matt Edmundson:

Something that costs you.

Matt Edmundson:

So there are prayers that you can pray where it is very conversational.

Matt Edmundson:

God, I would just love it if Liverpool won the Cup tonight, right?

Matt Edmundson:

Now, it's not going to change my life if they don't.

Matt Edmundson:

It's not going to change my life if they do, one bit.

Matt Edmundson:

Other than that, it's just been great to see it, and I'm stoked for them.

Matt Edmundson:

And you can pray for the team.

Matt Edmundson:

And it's okay I can do that.

Matt Edmundson:

But it's not really going to change my life.

Matt Edmundson:

So that conversational talk, I do that with God quite a lot.

Matt Edmundson:

Just chat away about all kinds of stuff.

Claire Glare:

I think that's the because I was thinking about

Claire Glare:

this before Dan even started.

Claire Glare:

And I think that's almost the easy bit.

Claire Glare:

Yeah, I think once you've If you've been a Christian a long time, that is the easy

Claire Glare:

bit where I would say is my challenge currently is the habitual setting aside

Matt Edmundson:

time.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm praying about something specific, something big.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And one of the things that I've been doing for the last few years, which has

Matt Edmundson:

really been helpful, actually, for me, take it or leave it, but I journal a lot.

Matt Edmundson:

And so I journal my prayers.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And so the app that I use day one, I think it's called on the phone,

Matt Edmundson:

that app will When you go on to it, the next time it say, Oh, this is

Matt Edmundson:

what you wrote a bit like Facebook.

Matt Edmundson:

This is what you put seven years ago kind of thing.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, it brings it.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, this is what you wrote a few years ago.

Matt Edmundson:

And you God, you've totally answered that prayer.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, I really like that.

Matt Edmundson:

Maybe I've, maybe I needed to rethink that a little bit.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you know what I mean?

Matt Edmundson:

Or whatever.

Matt Edmundson:

But it's a really interesting thing that actually when you journal

Matt Edmundson:

those things down and you go back and look at them, it's super, super

Matt Edmundson:

powerful because my problem is.

Matt Edmundson:

Was quite often I would pray for things and then forgot I'd prayed about them.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

So how do I know God's entered them?

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Do you know what I mean?

Claire Glare:

It's only the really big things that you remember.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Whereas the little things that actually are important and make life easier

Claire Glare:

or more exciting in the day to day.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

That we forget.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

But that it is like that memorial stone thing.

Claire Glare:

Isn't that in the

Matt Edmundson:

Bible?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

You're gonna have to explain that then.

Claire Glare:

Oh, okay.

Claire Glare:

Sorry.

Claire Glare:

. So in the Old Testament.

Claire Glare:

When God did something fabulous for the people of Israel, he would often say,

Claire Glare:

and just park a stone here to remind you and sometimes that will be an altar

Claire Glare:

and sometimes it would just be a stone.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And it was a way that they could go back physically to that place and

Claire Glare:

say, yeah, this is what God did.

Claire Glare:

And this is why we serve him and love him.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

This is how I

Claire Glare:

really like that idea of.

Claire Glare:

Because for me, the challenge of journals is that I have a lot of things on the go.

Claire Glare:

And so I might have one journal going and then probably my kids will rob it.

Claire Glare:

And particularly my son, he'll be like, writing, doing colouring in it.

Claire Glare:

And I'm like, that had my things written in it.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Okay, I've got to start another one now.

Claire Glare:

Whereas actually, but I'm not digital, I'm so 20th century, 19th century.

Claire Glare:

I

Matt Edmundson:

do both.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm not going to lie.

Matt Edmundson:

I do both.

Matt Edmundson:

I have a leather bound journal, which is just this lovely journal.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And I write in that a couple of times a week maybe.

Matt Edmundson:

And then I have my digital journal.

Matt Edmundson:

What I discovered during COVID.

Matt Edmundson:

Again, may or may not help you is actually because phones now are so good

Matt Edmundson:

at, you can dictate to them and they can translate text to speech to text because

Matt Edmundson:

what I discovered during COVID was I would just go walk around the mystery,

Matt Edmundson:

which is a park, a local park, and I'd walk around the park with my headphones

Matt Edmundson:

in or a microphone or my phone just here, and I would dictate to the phone.

Matt Edmundson:

So I didn't have to type it.

Matt Edmundson:

I just as I was praying, as I was thinking, I'll just speak

Matt Edmundson:

to the phone and it would

Claire Glare:

But then does it also have things like, oh, I'd

Claire Glare:

really a chippy tea tonight, in it?

Claire Glare:

Yeah,

Matt Edmundson:

But that's important too.

Matt Edmundson:

It's not really what

Claire Glare:

I pray.

Claire Glare:

You weren't doing the, you weren't

Matt Edmundson:

doing the No, because I'm, I know because

Matt Edmundson:

you were consciously praying.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, and I'm, because I'm speaking it out in a way that I Because if I just

Matt Edmundson:

talk faster normally, the computer is going to go, but if I speak a bit more

Matt Edmundson:

deliberately and intentionally, then it clarifies a lot of things in my head.

Matt Edmundson:

So then I forget I, I don't get all that brain fuzz, where I'm praying,

Matt Edmundson:

but then I'm thinking about the chippy tea and I'm thinking about the cat that

Matt Edmundson:

was sick in the slippers or whatever.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you know what I mean?

Matt Edmundson:

All of that just goes and it's no, God, I'm just focusing on this.

Matt Edmundson:

It's super helpful.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Hashtag the same.

Matt Edmundson:

I've just

Claire Glare:

skipped over Matt's comment because he's been super

Matt Edmundson:

cheeky.

Matt Edmundson:

That's unlike Crew.

Matt Edmundson:

So Nicola said she started praying in the mornings.

Matt Edmundson:

Where did you put that?

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Great talk by Dan.

Matt Edmundson:

I've started the habit of praying every morning before I even get

Matt Edmundson:

out of bed and it helps a lot.

Matt Edmundson:

Well done, Nicola.

Claire Glare:

Do you do that?

Claire Glare:

Do you pray in the morning?

Claire Glare:

I would say it's more that conversational kind of prayer.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And, yeah, I chat hand on heart.

Claire Glare:

Not really at the moment.

Claire Glare:

I was thinking when Dan was talking about the Ninety Five song, Get Up, Get Out.

Claire Glare:

No,

Matt Edmundson:

that's a different one.

Matt Edmundson:

No, Ninety Five is working

Claire Glare:

now.

Claire Glare:

But there's a bit about what she does when she stumbles out of bed.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And, and so I was thinking what, what do I do in the morning and you do have to,

Claire Glare:

there are certain things that you do and they are habits and they are rituals.

Claire Glare:

And one of mine is my cup of coffee and another is just a little bit of

Claire Glare:

calm before everybody else wakes up.

Claire Glare:

But actually I could really intentionally.

Claire Glare:

Spend time with God at that point, and sometimes I do, and it's lovely,

Claire Glare:

and other times, actually, I just turn on breakfast telly for a bit of news,

Claire Glare:

because I really rarely listen to the news, but that's not a great choice

Matt Edmundson:

It's interesting, I think you go through seasons, don't you?

Matt Edmundson:

No, I'm sorry, I'm

Claire Glare:

struggling with my chair today, sorry.

Matt Edmundson:

I think you go through seasons, don't you?

Matt Edmundson:

Like, When our kids were younger, it was harder to pray in the morning.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, it really was.

Matt Edmundson:

And I know that the evangelical line is you have a quiet time in the morning.

Matt Edmundson:

It's just what one of those things that's been drummed into you, since the first day

Matt Edmundson:

you became a Christian, I don't really.

Matt Edmundson:

I dunno.

Matt Edmundson:

I think it's just different for different people.

Matt Edmundson:

I never really did the quiet time in the morning thing.

Claire Glare:

Oh, I probably do feel a bit guilty.

Claire Glare:

Which I don't really generally do guilt , I'm not really guilty kind

Claire Glare:

of person, but but I think I would like I know how valuable Yeah.

Claire Glare:

That time with Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Whether it's in the morning or whenever.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And I, and and I would like it to be in the morning Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Just for my own.

Claire Glare:

Ordering.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

I, all I can say is publicly hand, do you know what I mean, hold me accountable.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Next time Clare's on, just, how's the knitting, how's the praying going?

Matt Edmundson:

That's the two questions you need to ask Clare whenever you see her.

Matt Edmundson:

But no, I do think, when our kids were your kids ages, it was much harder.

Matt Edmundson:

Now our kids are much older and they take care of themselves.

Matt Edmundson:

It's a lot easier of a morning to go right.

Matt Edmundson:

My morning's quite structured in the way that I approach it, and

Matt Edmundson:

so But that's so easy to do now.

Matt Edmundson:

It was not easy when we had kids.

Matt Edmundson:

There's no way I was gonna get that.

Claire Glare:

You are just, 'cause you're not your own person, are you?

Claire Glare:

No.

Claire Glare:

You are at their beck.

Claire Glare:

I don't mean that their beck and call in that in a bad way,

Claire Glare:

but they are dependent on you.

Claire Glare:

They're very dependent.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And I, it shocks me still, I think having young kids that I'm not reliable anymore.

Claire Glare:

I, I, like I can't be.

Claire Glare:

I can't commit to things in the same way that I used to do.

Claire Glare:

And what that is because I have dependence and I guess it's that recognition.

Claire Glare:

Okay.

Claire Glare:

And I'm just speaking it out loud as well as I'm thinking about it, but that I have

Claire Glare:

dependence upon me, but actually who am I

Matt Edmundson:

depending upon?

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And it's easy to get caught up in that, isn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

But yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

So there are definite seasons to the whole thing.

Matt Edmundson:

Pray, pray big, pray in the morning if you can.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

It's not, it's not a requirement.

Matt Edmundson:

Pray daily.

Matt Edmundson:

Pray daily.

Matt Edmundson:

Definitely.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

If you can keep a journal of your prayers.

Matt Edmundson:

I love Dan's comment about what was it he said?

Matt Edmundson:

I wrote it down.

Matt Edmundson:

Is it crazy that God talks back or is it crazy to talk to

Matt Edmundson:

God not wanting him to answer?

Matt Edmundson:

It was a great question, wasn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

I thought that was brilliant.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

I thought that was great actually.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

That actually we do pray and part of the reason why I enjoy the conversational type

Matt Edmundson:

prayer is because I sense God in that.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you see what I mean?

Matt Edmundson:

Yes.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm not just talking to myself.

Matt Edmundson:

I feel like God's in it.

Matt Edmundson:

And I like that conversational aspect of it, I feel that God's

Matt Edmundson:

there and I can sense him.

Matt Edmundson:

I've, I can't say that I've prayed, God, tell me what the lottery numbers are.

Matt Edmundson:

And he tells me,

Claire Glare:

I back in the day, we played there was I was on a discipleship team.

Claire Glare:

Yeah, we played murder in the dark a few times.

Claire Glare:

We lived in a big house as a group of us.

Claire Glare:

And I, if I was the detective, I would pray for a word of knowledge and I

Claire Glare:

was banned from being the detective.

Claire Glare:

And I, but I love that about God, like I really loved it that

Claire Glare:

actually he would join in with our

Matt Edmundson:

game, yeah, why not?

Matt Edmundson:

And why not?

Matt Edmundson:

Because God does things.

Claire Glare:

Go on.

Claire Glare:

I was just thinking that conversational and I think that listening

Claire Glare:

to God back and hearing him in different ways of it might be.

Claire Glare:

Just, a very deep sense of joy or peace or something like that.

Claire Glare:

But it might be, I don't know, a bus going by with a particular thing on.

Claire Glare:

I went through a phase of walking through a shopping center, St.

Claire Glare:

John's in town when it was old.

Claire Glare:

And literally every morning I would walk through the shopping center that I

Claire Glare:

was literally just walking through it.

Claire Glare:

for four minutes of a morning.

Claire Glare:

Maybe it was just the timing, but it was hello, but by Lionel

Claire Glare:

Richie, I'm not going to sing.

Claire Glare:

Matt's told me not to sing.

Claire Glare:

I'm not singing.

Claire Glare:

I

Matt Edmundson:

think he

Claire Glare:

was talking to me.

Claire Glare:

And I know, but I knew, or I know, I just called to say I love you.

Claire Glare:

And I just knew that at that season, that was God speaking to me.

Claire Glare:

And I, so I love that aspect of God.

Claire Glare:

And then obviously through scripture

Matt Edmundson:

as well.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, absolutely.

Matt Edmundson:

Through the Bible, through prayer, through, like you say, that sense of

Matt Edmundson:

just that, those, that sense, just that peace, that presence, that joy.

Matt Edmundson:

I remember praying about my exams for my degree.

Matt Edmundson:

Didn't we all?

Matt Edmundson:

Lord help us, please.

Matt Edmundson:

And I remember praying because I, for whatever reason in my

Matt Edmundson:

head, I wanted to get a 2.

Matt Edmundson:

1 in my degree.

Matt Edmundson:

And I was on track to get a 2.

Matt Edmundson:

2.

Matt Edmundson:

And in my final year at uni, I sat down with one of the tutors and

Matt Edmundson:

he said, you're on track for a 2.

Matt Edmundson:

2.

Matt Edmundson:

My second year wasn't great uni.

Matt Edmundson:

And he said, what do you want to get?

Matt Edmundson:

I said a 2.

Matt Edmundson:

1.

Matt Edmundson:

He said you're gonna have to put in a bit of extra work, especially around law.

Matt Edmundson:

I wasn't great with law, which was part of my degree.

Matt Edmundson:

He said, you're gonna have to do some extra work.

Matt Edmundson:

I said about that, I'm not going to be able to do that because from 5pm till

Matt Edmundson:

10pm every night, Monday through Friday, I'm now doing Bible school because I

Matt Edmundson:

want to get my Bible school diploma.

Matt Edmundson:

So I did that my final year at university.

Matt Edmundson:

And the tutor was a bit incandescent.

Matt Edmundson:

I know it's a bit, overdramatic.

Matt Edmundson:

He was a bit You what?

Matt Edmundson:

You want to do what?

Matt Edmundson:

He said you're going to get a 2 2 because you're not got time to

Matt Edmundson:

put in the extra work you need to.

Matt Edmundson:

And I said, I'm sure we can do something.

Matt Edmundson:

He said, but honestly, the only way you're going to get a 2 1, and I quote

Matt Edmundson:

you, this is what he said to me word for word, one of the things I remembered, he

Matt Edmundson:

said, the only way you're going to get a 2 1, Matt, is if you get one of those

Matt Edmundson:

miracles you're always talking about.

Matt Edmundson:

So I was like, seriously, that's the answer.

Matt Edmundson:

And he was like, yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And I was like, oh, thank you, Jesus.

Matt Edmundson:

Because that took the pressure off in a lot of ways.

Matt Edmundson:

So he was like, you what?

Matt Edmundson:

I said if that's the answer, I said, I'll just pray, excuse me, I'm gonna

Matt Edmundson:

go have a word with a miracle maker.

Matt Edmundson:

And I remember that Christmas, I had this two week break over Christmas where I

Matt Edmundson:

could study and I'm like, Lord, during these, I've got these two weeks, I'm

Matt Edmundson:

gonna devote these two weeks to study.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm gonna study like no one's studied before, but I'm gonna need your help.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm gonna need you to tell me what to study, how to study etc.

Matt Edmundson:

Because this is the block that I've got to do this in and it was genuine and I,

Matt Edmundson:

as sure as I knew anything, I heard God say, I want you to go to the law library.

Matt Edmundson:

When I got in the law library, I'm like, okay, I started, what, is

Matt Edmundson:

there a book I'm supposed to get?

Matt Edmundson:

It's I want you to go to this section of the library, I want you to get these

Matt Edmundson:

past papers from this year and this year.

Matt Edmundson:

And I went through them and he said, that question, I want you to answer them.

Matt Edmundson:

Spend the next two weeks writing answers to those questions.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you know when I did my exam, what questions came up on it?

Matt Edmundson:

And so when it came to my exams and revision, I was just like, it's amazing.

Matt Edmundson:

Cause when it came to answer the exams, I just felt God say

Matt Edmundson:

to me, just learn those essays.

Matt Edmundson:

And so here I go into the exams.

Matt Edmundson:

I used to do this thing with my exams.

Matt Edmundson:

I thought it's a bit like murder

Claire Glare:

in the dark,

Matt Edmundson:

Slightly cheating.

Matt Edmundson:

Cheating is not quite the right word, but the Lord was helping me.

Matt Edmundson:

And so I get into the exam and they are.

Matt Edmundson:

And I'm just like, we did it.

Matt Edmundson:

Boom.

Matt Edmundson:

Do you know what I got?

Matt Edmundson:

I got a 2 2.

Matt Edmundson:

I got a 2 1.

Matt Edmundson:

Well done.

Matt Edmundson:

I went up to the tutor at the year.

Matt Edmundson:

Well done, God.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Thank you, Jesus.

Matt Edmundson:

I went up to the tutor at the end of the year and I said to

Matt Edmundson:

him, still believe in miracles?

Matt Edmundson:

What did he say?

Matt Edmundson:

He said, I can't believe you.

Matt Edmundson:

I said it's not me you're supposed to believe.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

And so I was just so grateful,

Claire Glare:

grateful.

Claire Glare:

Did you tell him that's what had happened?

Matt Edmundson:

I can't remember.

Matt Edmundson:

It's a long time ago.

Matt Edmundson:

I've definitely told the story a lot.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

I've never heard it.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, okay.

Matt Edmundson:

Maybe I've not told it enough then.

Matt Edmundson:

The other time I really heard God quite clearly was when I was we

Matt Edmundson:

were talking about this the other night with Tom and Emma Grant

Matt Edmundson:

and they came around for dinner.

Matt Edmundson:

So Tom Grant's just been on What's The Story.

Matt Edmundson:

He's a pastor up in Netherton, part of the Eden team up there.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Great guy, does Wednesday Night at Finnegan's.

Matt Edmundson:

If you've, if you want to watch something YouTube on a Wednesday night,

Matt Edmundson:

I think it's like 8, 9pm, just go watch Wednesday Night at Finnegan's.

Matt Edmundson:

It's hysterical.

Matt Edmundson:

Is it?

Claire Glare:

Okay.

Claire Glare:

Comedy

Matt Edmundson:

Thing.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, Alan Finnegan and Tom Grant do it.

Matt Edmundson:

So Alan Finnegan, they're both church pastors.

Matt Edmundson:

He's a stand up comedian as well.

Matt Edmundson:

Tom's just really funny.

Matt Edmundson:

And together the Banton, they have guests on and he's built a pub

Matt Edmundson:

down the bottom of his garden.

Matt Edmundson:

And so they interview guests.

Matt Edmundson:

I've been on it.

Matt Edmundson:

So you know, but apart from that, it's all right.

Matt Edmundson:

Funny.

Matt Edmundson:

Apart from the one week I was on, it's really funny.

Matt Edmundson:

And so yeah they came round and I was telling them this story, or Sharon was

Matt Edmundson:

telling the story that Cause they're like, how did you and Sharon meet?

Matt Edmundson:

I said Sharon came to the Omega team, which was a year training team our

Matt Edmundson:

church did back in, a long time ago.

Claire Glare:

Did you do the Omega team?

Claire Glare:

That was when I was doing Murder

Matt Edmundson:

in the Dark.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh, okay.

Matt Edmundson:

So Sharon was on the, and I remember I remember just again, just as clear

Matt Edmundson:

as day, I was stood there, I was doing some teaching for the new Omegas.

Matt Edmundson:

And I'm doing this.

Matt Edmundson:

And I'm talking about faith.

Matt Edmundson:

It's the first time I've met half of them because, people and

Matt Edmundson:

Sharon was on that team and had everybody introduce themselves.

Matt Edmundson:

So I knew who they were and I was started doing this teaching.

Matt Edmundson:

I think I was doing teaching on faith probably and didn't think anything of it.

Matt Edmundson:

Just met everyone.

Matt Edmundson:

Hey, how you doing?

Matt Edmundson:

About 10- 15 minutes in the talk, just as sure as I heard God say anything to me.

Matt Edmundson:

He said, see ya, you're going to go out with her.

Matt Edmundson:

And I was like,

Claire Glare:

Okay, what do I do

Matt Edmundson:

with that?

Matt Edmundson:

What am I supposed to do with that right now?

Matt Edmundson:

And I just stood still for five minutes.

Matt Edmundson:

Everyone thought I was nuts.

Matt Edmundson:

Because I just didn't say anything for five minutes as I'm having this debate.

Matt Edmundson:

And this prayer time with God going, thanks Lord, but I just, I don't

Matt Edmundson:

know what to do, I don't know her, I don't, and so anyway that's did

Matt Edmundson:

Sharon flutter her eyes at you?

Matt Edmundson:

No, she just didn't have anything to do with me.

Matt Edmundson:

You should ask Sharon the story.

Matt Edmundson:

She's really funny.

Matt Edmundson:

Cause when we were, when I was like, it was like 18 months later, I was

Matt Edmundson:

like, right now I think it's the time.

Matt Edmundson:

So I made my moves.

Matt Edmundson:

Casanova here.

Matt Edmundson:

Made my moves.

Matt Edmundson:

Sharon was not impressed.

Matt Edmundson:

She said she had three categories of people, three categories of men in her

Matt Edmundson:

life, the ones that she was definitely not going to go out with, the ones

Matt Edmundson:

where she was like, possible, and me.

Matt Edmundson:

I was in a category all of my own.

Matt Edmundson:

I don't quite know.

Claire Glare:

Was that a positive or a negative?

Claire Glare:

Do you not know?

Claire Glare:

Don't know.

Claire Glare:

Oh,

Matt Edmundson:

still not got the answer.

Matt Edmundson:

We got married, so I figured it was okay in the end.

Matt Edmundson:

She still likes me, I think, on the whole.

Matt Edmundson:

She does.

Matt Edmundson:

So yeah, prayer that sort of conversational prayer, the big prayers.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Praying for your exams was a big one for me.

Matt Edmundson:

Praying for my wife was a massive one.

Matt Edmundson:

Some of those really big prayers, and I think part of the problem, I don't know if

Matt Edmundson:

you're like me, Clare, but if I look back over life, when I was a young Christian,

Matt Edmundson:

I was praying big prayers all the time.

Matt Edmundson:

And I think as you go through life, it's easier to stop praying those prayers.

Claire Glare:

But, is it?

Claire Glare:

Because you're in business, you've got big prayers still to pray.

Claire Glare:

Oh yeah.

Claire Glare:

Our situation is very interesting,

Claire Glare:

And it's a great way to it is, but it's a real justice situation and.

Claire Glare:

And it on, and we're just clueless about it.

Claire Glare:

The only hope is God.

Claire Glare:

And and so they are big, but I think recently God has been challenging me to

Claire Glare:

pray more about that because it's been 12 years going on this situation that

Claire Glare:

me and my husband have got a legal.

Claire Glare:

Battle thing.

Claire Glare:

And and it is it's just to say

Matt Edmundson:

the battle's not between them.

Claire Glare:

No, we are in unity upon it.

Claire Glare:

But it's and it's, not, we've not done anything wrong.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, the FBI are investigating,

Claire Glare:

Thing.

Claire Glare:

And, but it's just.

Claire Glare:

Actually, you have, and actually, even this morning, it's that birthing prayer,

Claire Glare:

I think I was feeling again, and just, Oh, God, you that something has to break.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And I think that prayer of breakthrough, actually, when you're, maybe about your

Claire Glare:

kids as well, when you're praying about people that you love, and still haven't

Claire Glare:

come to faith and, maybe for us with older parents in that season of life

Claire Glare:

that I'm in, who knows when my parents are, I've still got my parents, but I

Claire Glare:

don't know when that's going to change.

Claire Glare:

And we are their link to Jesus, aren't we, our family.

Claire Glare:

So they, and they are really important in prayers, aren't they?

Claire Glare:

But I think sometimes we can de, we can make them not big, but that's

Claire Glare:

just that, actually, no, it's not just that, it's really flipping important.

Claire Glare:

Yeah, it is.

Claire Glare:

But then also and we can't, we, it is, it would be a miracle for XYZ to happen.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

And so I think, but then I think it's speaking faith into those, isn't it?

Claire Glare:

Yeah, it is.

Claire Glare:

And and expectation.

Claire Glare:

That, God's a God who loves us and that he wants to answer and he's able to answer

Claire Glare:

and okay, we're just doing what we can do.

Claire Glare:

Praying those prayers, being in the right place, turning up and trusting.

Claire Glare:

Yeah,

Matt Edmundson:

Super powerful.

Matt Edmundson:

And especially if you tie this back into the topic of wholeness, which

Matt Edmundson:

is this whole season, becoming whole.

Matt Edmundson:

Prayer is one of those things where actually I don't understand how you

Matt Edmundson:

can become whole without prayer.

Claire Glare:

And I was thinking about this and my job I see a lot of people

Claire Glare:

with really bad mental health, physical poor ill health, just their whole lives

Claire Glare:

are wrecked and I often think, I know that actually Lots of scientific study

Claire Glare:

has gone into the power of prayer.

Claire Glare:

And that is actually the studies are Christian prayer, mostly because

Claire Glare:

it's been funded by Western churches.

Claire Glare:

And so it's not got that bias, but it is it's that history.

Claire Glare:

And I think it's really it changes you, it makes you more resilient.

Claire Glare:

It makes your, you more whole.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, it does, totally.

Matt Edmundson:

Nicola said she started praying in the mornings because life was tough.

Matt Edmundson:

And I think sometimes we start praying when life's tough.

Matt Edmundson:

And I think, God helps us out of things.

Matt Edmundson:

God helps us quite often through things, sometimes.

Matt Edmundson:

Sometimes He doesn't deliver us out of things.

Matt Edmundson:

He delivers us through things, more often than not is my experience.

Matt Edmundson:

And He's gracious in so many ways with that.

Matt Edmundson:

And that, but that all comes to prayer, doesn't it?

Matt Edmundson:

And it's like Understanding if I'm fearful, God, going to God

Matt Edmundson:

in praying and God what is it?

Matt Edmundson:

Why am I fearful?

Matt Edmundson:

What's making me fearful?

Matt Edmundson:

Help me get to the bottom of this, and digging through a lot of these

Matt Edmundson:

things with God, I think is just.

Matt Edmundson:

It's away the future really.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm aware of time.

Claire Glare:

I'm not, I've I have no clue.

Claire Glare:

It's 10 past

Matt Edmundson:

seven, eight o'clock.

Matt Edmundson:

How do you know the time?

Matt Edmundson:

Because it's in the top corner of the screen.

Matt Edmundson:

Hidden from where I am.

Matt Edmundson:

But yes, we have, we run over.

Matt Edmundson:

We started late, didn't we?

Matt Edmundson:

We started very late.

Matt Edmundson:

So I think we're probably on about time.

Matt Edmundson:

So thank you for bearing with us, everybody.

Matt Edmundson:

Next week we are talking about,

Claire Glare:

I

Matt Edmundson:

have no idea.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm not you, Jack, I told you earlier.

Matt Edmundson:

Dave Conns doing it.

Matt Edmundson:

Fasting.

Matt Edmundson:

Yes.

Matt Edmundson:

Yes.

Claire Glare:

Remembered.

Matt Edmundson:

Claire's panicking.

Matt Edmundson:

So yeah, I've got Dave Conn talking about fasting and what's

Matt Edmundson:

fasting got to do with being whole.

Matt Edmundson:

It's Matt, you're talking about becoming whole.

Matt Edmundson:

You started off with prayer and fasting.

Matt Edmundson:

And

Claire Glare:

you don't shrink when you fast either.

Claire Glare:

I think, from my own experience in the past.

Matt Edmundson:

Yeah, it says.

Matt Edmundson:

You become a different kind of whole, maybe, I don't know promote What's

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Claire Glare:

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Claire Glare:

Yeah.

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Claire Glare:

I like that little touch of a button.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Got a little thing that he touched.

Matt Edmundson:

And it did that.

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Yeah, that's cool.

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Amazing.

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So yeah, do stick with us.

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Thanks again for sticking with us during the technical issues and whichever

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Thank you for being with us.

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All the comments, I think most of the comments seem to.

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If you have actually put in comments and we've not seen them or responded to them.

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You're out in the ether somewhere.

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Yeah, it's my fault though.

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I'll get a USB hub that actually works and doesn't crash the live

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Cost 50 quid that USB hub.

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That thing.

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Yeah.

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Take issues, man.

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So yeah, thanks for sticking with us.

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Really appreciate it.

Matt Edmundson:

Have a blessed week.

Matt Edmundson:

Anything else you want to say before we sign off?

Claire Glare:

All good.

Claire Glare:

All good.

Claire Glare:

I think we

Matt Edmundson:

should just pray.

Matt Edmundson:

Oh yeah, let's do that.

Matt Edmundson:

Shall we pray?

Claire Glare:

Talk about prayer.

Claire Glare:

Shall we pray?

Claire Glare:

God, we love you.

Claire Glare:

We thank you for our time.

Claire Glare:

We yeah, we pray that as we reach out to you and turn our faces towards you,

Claire Glare:

we would see your beautiful face and we would hear your voice saying, I love you.

Claire Glare:

And this is the way walking it.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Yeah.

Claire Glare:

Amen.

Matt Edmundson:

Amen.

Matt Edmundson:

Well done for that.

Matt Edmundson:

It's all right.

Matt Edmundson:

I can't believe we just did this whole conversation about prayer.

Matt Edmundson:

I didn't even think about praying.

Matt Edmundson:

It's all right.

Claire Glare:

I did think about it earlier.

Claire Glare:

There we go.

Claire Glare:

I'm supposed.

Matt Edmundson:

And on that bombshell, have a great week, God bless you I'm

Matt Edmundson:

going to press, what button am I pressing?

Matt Edmundson:

That one.

Matt Edmundson:

I'm going to press this button.

Matt Edmundson:

We'll see you next week.

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Bye for now.

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