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Welcome to Rabble Rants. I'm Santiago Gelo Quintero and alongside Jesse McLean, we're going to

unpack the stories that have us most riled up and challenge the narratives around them.

Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason

why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. I remember the 5th of November. For different

reasons though than the 2024 one I guess. Well there was like 150 odd Americans that didn't.

Because I don't give a shit about anybody who voted for Kamala either. Right? So, yeah, it

happened. Trump is president again in case, I don't know, you fucking missed it. But I

didn't know how I would feel when it happened because I think we knew it would happen. We

can talk about why I think that's what we are going to talk about. But I felt really fucking

smug this morning going, it was kind of like, I don't want to go on there and say, I told

you so. But, you know, everyone told the Democrats. So Their base sure as fuck told them people

in Dearborn sure as fuck told them that this wasn't a winning policy, you know, genocide.

I mean, there's other reasons too, but the fact that you, you know, I don't want Trump, I don't

want Trump, I don't want Trump. Okay. But I'm happy as fuck that the DNC were punished. No

politician can stand behind a genocide shout down their base who are trying to stop it and

think. that they are going to win them over, either their vote or their labor. Like, that's

ridiculous. Yeah, like, sorry that the kids that you tear gassed aren't voting for you.

Yeah, or the people whose families you're bombing. I even saw Republicans, you know, in the face

of some Democrats, shouting them down, going, How can you justify sending all that money

over to Israel? You know, how can you justify that like they are so fucked up voting Republican?

I get it. But it was even you they couldn't even defend themselves to Republicans on some

of these points. And I know a big fuck you honestly to the people out there that are like, Oh,

I can't wait for them to see what happens under Trump to Gaza. What the fuck you mean? You

mean you hope you see further destruction just so you can prove your point? just so you can

like what get back at people who didn't get your girl into office? Like you've got to be

kidding me, way to show your true colors. One thing about like the cult of the Democratic

Party that is always kind of funny to witness when they lose is that the blame game. Right?

Like we've been seeing the blame game for years. New Democrats do it well too. Yeah, oh yeah

absolutely. It's not unique at all. Shout out to the NDP. It's not unique at all to the Democratic

party. But it's really funny, like I keep seeing tweets of people who are like, I hope you third

party voters got what you fucking asked for, you fucking ruined my life, yadda yadda. Meanwhile

there wasn't a single state that would have been flipped by the third party voters. Trump's

victory was so absolute. No one got what they wanted. Those third party voters wanted an

end to genocide and climate justice. What the fuck you mean they got what they wanted? Yeah,

but it's like, yeah, the third party voters had nothing to do with it. Okay, and we can't

blame Bernie this time, right? Bernie didn't even run. But he would have won if he did.

Even though, you know, he's not... I mean, he would have had to change his position too.

He's still standing there going, Israel has a right to defend itself, but, but... Yeah,

look, like, I'm... more than mature enough at this point to not deify Bernie or anyone else

anymore. Not that like I'm not grateful for the political awakening that his original campaign

gave. But anyways, Bernie things aside, I'm not even going to go there. And now they're

like, OK, well, we'll blame the Latinos, even though Latinos voted more for Kamala than Trump.

OK, well, I know you told me they blaming Latinos for what? There's like. Because you know, oh,

40% of them voted for Trump. Like, what numbers do you want? What is the threshold? Like, every

fucking Latino. Maybe if we allowed Latinos who weren't just rich Latinos to immigrate.

And vote. Things would be different, right? Because like, hey, we got some real right-wing

Latinos, and those are the ones that have an easier time getting to these countries, just

so you know. Look everyone, we are smug. There is nothing to be happy about though, like.

It's an absolute victory on every level, right? Senate, House, everything. I mean, it's gonna

be awful. I'm not, and I have no false hope that like, well, it wasn't quite as bad as

we thought last time around. So no, there's no false hope. It's gonna be way worse. Everyone

knows it's gonna be way worse. But how much way worse? What in four years did Biden do

that could have mitigated? So what could another Kamala for? to mitigate like the anti-trans

legislation and the anti-abortion legislation that just continues to roll through the states.

You know, Biden had his chance and it's so insulting for all these celebrities posting up selfies

or anybody making these comments, these fucking feminists, usually white feminists. Oh, well,

here I voted today as though half the population's lives depended on it. I voted today for me

and my two daughters. There's women dying now because of these laws being refused treatment

by hospitals until they're in a situation so fucking dire that they die rather than get

the health care that they need because of legislation that's been passed that Biden has not been

able to thwart. Four years ago, you know, this is the most important election of your time

women and they gave you Biden. You fooled them. And so again, this mask slips. It slips. I

would say it started with Obama, right? He had such promise and change and then he ended up

dropping the most drone strikes as any president and built these migrant camps that everyone

loved to dump on Trump for. And if you look materially, Trump didn't do anything all of

that more horrible than the Democrats will do if given the opportunity to. No, and like that's

the thing, right? Like we have no false illusions that either side was gonna act in the best

interest of the people at any moment in time. I mean, at the end of the day, they're beholden

to the rich. Yeah. Right? Like I'm not blaming you, but let's speak. No, young men, yeah.

Yeah, what the f- You know, I don't know if you can help make sense of it, but that's really

troubling. And it does speak to what you were talking about in one of our other Ravel rants

of- not being able to harness the radicalization of especially now we see young people young

men in specifically voting for Trump and the dangers of not being able to thwart that what

does that mean yeah I mean that is something that we have been raising the alarms about

for a very long time you know like it's partly why I shit on the NDP so much I'll tell you

why because Other parties, they encourage the radicalization of the youth and other groups,

right, in a most horrible way. But our parties, like you saw the way Kamala was trying to suppress

any Palestinian solidarity, anybody trying to get her to answer on the Israel question. And

in general, you know, you saw also the Democratic Party fight tooth and nail to remove socialists

from the ballot. And our new Democrats are the same, right? They do everything in their power

to push down the radical elements of the left. They keep us down. They try to moderate us.

And other parties, we actually shit on them for doing that because we know it's not in

our best interest. We know it's not in the people's best interest. But you have to admire that

tactic. That is how you point people's anger in the right direction and not just put it

into bureaucracy. and the correct avenues and respectability politics. That's not what people

are asking for. And because we have not given it to them, we have lost the youth to the right.

And the fight that we have in front of us is becoming even more daunting day by day. A youth

that back in 2016, for example, had all the promise of being one of the most progressive

youths. But back in that day, there was like... It was extremely anti-right wing. Extremely

progressive. We have like the speed at which we have lost the youth. It's horrifying. And

there's, there's no like, I mean, people are already living through extremely tough times.

There's no waiting for something to like change their mind. It's already, it's, it's already

been lost yet. I mean, we know that the Democrats aren't going to learn any lessons from this.

You know, they're not going to be like, Oh, well, maybe we should have had an actual primary.

Maybe we should have, you know, allowed people to see like, if anything, their reaction is

going to be, well, we can't run any women anymore. That might be the one lesson they learnt from

it. You know, you're going to see them blaming the demographics like you talk about, but yeah,

no, no inner reflection, not on policy. I mean, the fact that they were walking around with

the Cheneys. I mean, they didn't even have policy. No, it lacked policy. Nothing about health

care, which everyone is struggling. I mean, Kamala didn't even have a platform for how

long? Like literally no platform, right? Which is strange coming from someone who's been so

intertwined in policy and how that role would be for so long to not have concrete ideas.

That's such a red flag when they don't provide that. Olivia Chow didn't provide one either.

And so it was another leftist, not even a faux progressive, that's trying to win the free

labor and votes of the very people they plan to oppress anyway. And they- It's almost like

we're in another one of those situations, you know, where they ran Hillary when we knew Bernie

would win and they put up another unpopular candidate like Kamala. Who got destroyed when

they were actually in a primary. Like, it was brutal how bad their primary was back in 2020.

Right? Like that was embarrassing. Yeah, they seem like the person to run. They're not gonna

learn anything from this. And I'm not waiting for them to learn that. And they don't have

their usual arguments. Like I said, they can't go and blame third party voters because the

marginal is so big. They can't be like, oh, well, we won the popular vote. No, you lost

the popular vote this time around. There's so many reasons to disappoint their base, but

how are you activating people? How are you getting people convinced that putting... another Democrat

in there for four years was going to give them anything but what they'd experienced for the

last four years. And they couldn't. And that was a tough place to be. You'd have to be criticizing

your own work for the last four years. So it was just like the safe coasting of an election.

But it's like, in the end, you realize the people behind these parties, they don't give a shit

who wins in the end. It doesn't fucking matter to them. No. And let's talk Canada for a second.

We're not learning any lessons here, right? I mean, we know the Democrats aren't. But hey,

Polyev's waiting. He's coming. You know? It's going to happen here too. Oh, he's watching

this, and he's probably so excited. And this is for all the people there that are, oh, you

know, Americans. How can they do this? You know, and the memes were endless. You know, here's

the Americans about to make another stupid mistake. And it's like, buckle up, people. You know,

not that I'd. It's the same thing.

No, but I would feel the same way about someone voting for Justin Trudeau under what has happened

that I would for Poliev. I don't know how you could go and take that time to walk to the

school and line up and present your ID and tell that person that they deserve to keep doing

that job. Nor do I understand how you would hand it over to some right-wing fuckface that

wants to scape go the most marginalized people in our community so brazenly, because the liberals

are doing it anyway. You know, they have all of the detriments that the conservatives have,

except they couch it in this bleeding heart liberal rhetoric. But that's being that's harder

and harder to buy. There's no liberal that doesn't know what the fuck they've done for the last

400 days. And so you're if you're still getting that your stamp of approval, I put you in the

same category. I mean, I don't even want to talk about the NDP because they just go on

so long about But in terms of those two parties, that's how I feel. And it's the same with the

Democrats. If you went out and voted for Kamala and tried to pretend to people that would somehow

make a huge difference in their lives, even in women's lives, fuck right off. Which women?

Rich white women? Maybe? Materially, she hates workers just as fucking much. So like, no.

Winning the presidency isn't going to overturn those abortion laws. It meant nothing for women's

rights. No. Nothing. No. So the good news is though, let's end up, I do have good news.

I have very good news. Because you all can be as smug as me today. Because you know why?

Because the plan has not changed. Not in any way. Nothing we have talked about ever on our

show, either Blueprints of Disruption or here on Rabble Rants. There is no call to action.

There is no tactic that we have discussed that still isn't in play at this time. Right. Believers

of power still remain the same. The systems that oppress us are still there. They just

have, they just have a different character running the show. And behind the scenes, we have the

same enemies still. So yeah, there's probably people just despondent today. They don't understand

what is happening. Very disappointed, troubled maybe with some of the demographics voting,

you know, and what that means for our future. But we all knew that was already a hurdle for

us. We saw those numbers here for conservative support in Canada. The work is still to be

done today to not, I think, mark any of that, except perhaps that we know voters will hold.

Genocidal politicians, unapologetically genocidal politicians, accountable for their actions.

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