EPISODE SUMMARY:

In this episode, I sit down with Morgan, a Fertility 101 member who chose to get proactive before trying to conceive. With a history of irregular cycles, a PCOS diagnosis, and 10 years without a period due to the Mirena IUD, she wasn’t sure what her fertility journey would look like. But instead of waiting to struggle, Morgan decided to prepare. She took the time to understand her body, support her hormones, and eliminate the fear. Now at 37 weeks pregnant, her story is a powerful reminder that you don’t have to wait for a problem to take control of your journey.

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Dr. Jane is a Naturopathic Doctor and a Natural Fertility Expert. She and her team of expert practitioners help couples navigate infertility for 1+ years, get to the root cause of their struggles, heal, and bring healthy babies home.

After having a family member struggle with infertility and experiencing a miscarriage herself, Dr. Jane realized how little support and education women receive. She is on a mission to change that. Since 2020, she has dedicated her practice to fertility, where she and her practitioners work with couples 1:1, running functional lab work, customizing treatment plans and providing her couples with the support they need to get pregnant, have a stress free pregnancy and a healthy baby.

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction and Background

00:52 Fertility Journey and Initial Concerns

02:25 Understanding Irregular Cycles and Birth Control

04:41 Proactive Steps Towards Fertility

06:08 The Importance of Education and Awareness

10:30 Engaging with Naturopathy and Lifestyle Changes

11:00 The Role of Data and Tracking in Fertility

17:42 Mental and Emotional Aspects of Preparing for Pregnancy

28:50 Final Thoughts and Reflections on the Journey

34:38 Confronting Fears of Parenthood

36:49 Understanding Your Body and Health

38:58 Changing Perspectives on Fitness and Aging

42:59 Investing in Health and Wellness

47:13 Navigating Pregnancy Experiences

01:01:34 Advice for Future Parents

TAKEAWAYS:

Morgan's journey began with concerns about fertility at age 33.

She actively sought information and support through podcasts and education.

Understanding her body and cycle was crucial in her journey.

Proactive steps included pulling out her IUD to assess her cycle.

Tracking data helped her make informed decisions about her health.

Engaging her partner in the process was essential for support.

Mental and emotional shifts were significant in her readiness for pregnancy.

Her pregnancy experience was positive, thanks to her preparation.

Small lifestyle changes can lead to significant health improvements.

Education and awareness are key for women navigating fertility challenges.

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Hi Morgan, thank you for being here. I'm so excited to connect with you today for many different reasons. We've known each other for a while and we started out in the CrossFit world and then it was very exciting to see you. Where are you now? Tell us where you are now and then we'll kind of go into your history.

Peace out.

you

Cool, well no thanks for having me. I'm excited to do this with you. So as you mentioned, we know we met.

CrossFit world. Since then, I guess back in the CrossFit world, I was doing my articling at Ernst & Young. I did my CPA and then moved over to the investment banking world, did my CBV. But now actually working for a smaller company in corporate finance as well, doing mergers and acquisitions for them. So has done kind of a, my careers evolved a lot over the time, but I think so is a lot of things in my life.

for sure, and where are you now in your fertility journey? Why did you reach out and then where are you now?

So I reached out Well, I think I was starting to get and maybe it was just the content I was starting to consume The algorithms are so clever these days But I was hearing a lot about women starting to struggle with fertility and so for context now I'm 33 and I would say this is probably like 30 ish 30 31 is when I was like really getting a lot of content or consuming a lot of content about uphill battle

with fertility. And I had to listen to podcasts, yours being one of them, just talking about, you know, women who had been on birth control for years, who had experienced PCOS, you know, various challenges or just had never really understood their bodies and that kind of, I would say, kind of spiraled in a good way in the sense of trying to understand that better because I had been told by doctors there might be some challenges concealed.

And so I was trying to just get ahead of things. And fast forward to now, I'm 33 and I'm 37 weeks pregnant. So it's been a very positive story. Yeah. So it's all paid off, but it started definitely a good three years ago before kind of investigating.

Yeah, we're getting ready to meet your baby.

For sure. So tell me, why did the doctors tell you that you might be struggling to conceive?

So I'd always had a bit of an irregular cycle. Like ever since when I first started, I guess when I got my first period, it was always very heavy. The doctor just immediately put me on birth control to help like manage hormones. And that was like my mom had had that. So we naively didn't really think much about it. And then I couldn't really find a birth control that worked great. Ended up getting on an IUD as they were kind of exploring that.

They did ultrasound and said, you might have some cysts there. You might have PCOS. It's really hard to diagnose, but let's assume you do.

They were to diagnose you while you had the IUD in?

Before before I had the IUD that was kind of what led them down the path that like maybe the IUD would be a really good option for you And so I ended up getting the IUD. It was awesome. Like I had it I did the full five years for the first time never got a cycle did you know once that it had expired Got it put it, you know taken out put back in And it was it was awesome. It was Yeah, never had a period while I was on it. So life was great

It was cross fitting lots working out super active very busy high stress job So honestly didn't think much of it to be honest and then you know, you kind of get to a point in your life. It's like I was Engaged and you know, we weren't ready to start thinking about children but at the point where hey I've not had a period in probably a good ten years and I should probably figure this out before

Mm-hmm.

before we get to that stage of our lives where we want this to happen.

Yeah, it's kind of, it's good. You're very proactive. And so I mean, I guess was it just the fear of, yeah, just keep telling your story because it's very fascinating. You basically decided that I should probably pull out my IUD and figure out what's going on with my cycle. Even though I remember you were like not really ready to start trying for one to two years. So you were very proactive.

Yeah.

Yeah, and honestly, I was quite nervous to pull it. My family physician was, I would say she was, because of the symptoms, because I had never ever understood my cycle at all. And I think it was just like how disruptive was it gonna be to my life? you know, am I gonna be going through these like hormonal waves and, you know.

Nervous because you would get pregnant or nervous because of the symptoms? Yeah.

Not be able to train as much as you want to. Yeah.

Yeah, and they're like put on weight because I my hormones are fluctuating and you know, like what's what's gonna happen and it's just my family physician was kind of like, well, if you're not ready to get pregnant, then why are you pulling this? and I just kind of in my head was like, no, I like I think it's the right time. Like, I'm done with this. You know, let's let's figure it out. and so I think that that was

That's our inner voice, you know? I love that, because I remember my doctor, when he told me go on birth control, I was being sexually active, and I was 16, turning 17, and the question that I had was like, how long can I be on this? And he was like, forever, and then you could just go on HRT. And that day I was like, I'll go on it now, but my feeling was like, something doesn't seem right there, you know? And it's very powerful to start listening to that, because I think it leads you.

you know, into the right direction.

Right. And I think too, I would say if I, about a year before I had pulled it, I had talked to my doctor about like, hey, like how do we manage, you know, if I have struggles getting pregnant or managing my cycle, what are my options? You know, like how, you know, do you do testing? Do you like kind of, you know, a little, a lot about what you talk about getting to that root cause. It's like, to what extent are you going to work with me to get there? And her comment was, well,

try for six months to get pregnant. If you can't, we'll send you to the fertility clinic and we'll get you pregnant. And at that point in time, I was like, awesome, that sounds great, easy. I'm busy, I'm like a corporate gal. I don't have time to figure this out. So good, you have a plan. I now have a plan, let's move on. And then as I started learning more about all these things, I'm like, that's not a plan. That's a triage situation in times when you don't know

Yes.

I think it's quite ignorant to be actually to say that because I, I'm seeing plenty of couples who have gone through multiple rounds of IVF and it didn't work. And so to just be like, yeah, don't worry. We'll get you pregnant. I think is completely overseeing the complexity of the situation and everything that needs to happen. Cause truthfully it's six to nine months to do IVF if it's going to work at all minimum. And you know, people have extended their journeys for years because of it. So.

Thank

What I remember, I was talking to my, well then, fiance but now husband about it a little bit. And I just said, you know, now that I'm kind of learning more about it, that response doesn't really resonate with me because I'm like.

If you're struggling to get pregnant, there's a reason why. And so if you kind of force your body into that, what's the quality of that pregnancy? it's like, you know, I hope for anyone who goes through that, they have a super healthy baby and everything works out. But it's like your body gets rocked through pregnancy. And it's like, to the extent you're not going in with everything, like all systems go, it's just such a disadvantage to yourself.

And you know, it just doesn't seem as joyful maybe because you're like, I feel like garbage. This is not fun. This is really, really hard.

Yeah, it's, mean, that's my whole thing. I, my first pregnancy really rocked me and I did zero preparation and it's so exciting to hear, you know, and you'll tell us a little bit about your pregnancy and how it has been, but I'm like, how, as an atropathic doctor, did I not know, like the recommendation was take a prenatal for three months. And I'm like, what's a prenatal for three months, like a multivitamin essentially to make sure you're not depleted. And it's just the hardest thing that the female body will ever do. And there is.

Yeah.

I

I'm continuing to learn about all the courses and everything that has to happen. Sometimes I'm amazed we're all even here, you know, I'm like, how does it even happen at all? Cause there's so many things that have to be right. so anyways, that's, it's just a little alarming to me as well. When somebody says that where I'm like, I don't know if you've seen all the cases and you feel really understand it.

Yeah, think too, I mean, I think it's a little bit with social media and it's becoming more like less taboo to talk about pregnancy struggles, which I think is really doing everyone such a, we're doing ourselves a disservice by not talking about it. And,

Which is great.

But at the same time, think now it's become so much more apparent, the struggles that are happening and, you know, women are talking about it more, learning from each other. Like, it's just, I think it's so important and empowering to understand it, but it's, okay, now, if you're struggling, it's like, well, now what do you do? How do you tackle that? And that's why people like you come and play, right?

Yeah. Yeah. What I will say is like, it's really important to talk about it. It's also important not to normalize it because now if you're seeing couples that are going, we're just going to start saving for IVF because we don't even know, but we're just going to assume that we're going to struggle versus like we used to save for our kids college fund, you know, that's where I want to really change it up and say, Hey, that's not normal. Let's make sure we actually put preconception care as

you.

the most fundamental thing that you can do. And we start teaching women about their menstrual cycle. We get women off birth control and teach them to and teach men about reproductive health and all that stuff and how to keep their sperm healthy. But essentially it's just like stay healthy so your sperm can be healthy. And then we can, you know, slowly get out of this mess. Yeah. So tell me when this is when the wheels we sidetracked, but the wheels started to turn where you were like, I don't

Mm-hmm.

I agree 100%.

Mm-hmm.

I don't know if this is a plan, and then what was your next step?

Yeah. So I think reaching out to you was really the next step. And it was, was kind of unsure when the right time. Yes, I did.

You were working with other naturopaths as well though. You were trying to figure out, yeah.

A little bit. would say yes, I was working with one other one, which was good. Just I would say like getting my feet wet until like the naturopathic world of and she's she was very like, I would say more sport focused and performance focused. So it was good because I when I'm talking to her about like, like I maintain a high activity level. I've got a high demand at work. Like, how can I support my body through this? And so she kind of opened

me like opened it up with a sense of okay, here's you know, high stress you're good like these minerals are going to get more depleted because of that. Okay, you're training make sure your protein sufficient. If we don't understand cycle, that's okay. Let's talk about it. And I think that's when even she was introducing things like temperature tracking and cervical fluid and she's like you need to start understanding how your cycles working and I think I took that all I would say a bit loosely because I just didn't really understand the significance or importance.

of it yet, but at least it opened my eyes to you don't need a piece of data to tell you when you are ovulating, when your period's coming, you know, it's like start like tuning into little things with your body. Correct.

Yeah. And you mean like you don't need LH strips or you don't need to like start doing all of the lab testing already. There's signals that your body is giving you on a regular basis.

Yeah.

Exactly, exactly. So I would say that was kind of like getting my feet wet. And then when I feel like I kind of just reached a point where I was like, okay, I know you from the CrossFit world. I followed you. Let's dig in a little bit deeper. I think I've looked at like with your two programs, like the one-on-one versus the one-on-one, the kind of more of the group setting. And I think you and I decided let's start with the group setting.

just jump in and see where we get to and then learn from there and figure it out.

Yep, for sure. Yeah, like let's not find problems that aren't there because I mean, I'm always going to find something. That's my job, right? But I think when you're first starting out, it's so valuable to just go through and be like, well, this is what people who are struggling with infertility are doing. And this is how they're reversing their fertility issues. Wouldn't that make sense for me to do that as my preconception cares? So then I don't have.

Mm-hmm.

Of course, that's your job.

the issues and that's essentially the premise of the program is like these is what somebody struggling with five years, eight years, seven years, whatever, two years of infertility doing to fix and reverse it. If you do these things as well, then you will reverse any issues that you may have had and therefore not really have them.

Right. I think too, with the program, there's so much learning and education to it too. Like it's not just, okay, you need to be on these supplements. It's like, okay, let's, let's kind of evaluate your lifestyle, your habits, your environment, which I think was a really important piece of the puzzle that I think is going to pay dividends in my future for sure, because it's changed so many habits in our lives. And, I thought that was

like such a valuable start to it on top of then actually understanding the female cycle. Like what's happening with hormones? Why are they doing that? What are the things we need to look for? I think, cause you kind of, as you started to do like your preliminary tests, you get your blood work done and then you can benchmark yourself to say, okay, you know, what's my average heart rate, my HRV, how's my blood work looking? And then using, you know, kind of the tools you've provided to say, okay, this is scoring.

well, this needs improvement. And so I think one of the first things, obviously I ran the blood panel and it was good. Like it wasn't, there weren't any red flags from what my physician had run, what was coming up. The aura ring was, I think, a really valuable piece to just.

Yeah, I knew you would love it just because of the like crossfit in the data and sleeping and all of that. Yeah.

It's so cool. But I think too, just having something tangible to look at data wise, not just to get up in the morning and be and say to yourself, do I feel rested or not? But to be able to say, OK, when did my heart rate dip last night? How many like what was my respiratory rate? And then kind of take that alongside what was the type of day I had yesterday like was I in board meetings all day? OK, yeah, that's probably why my stress, know,

say you're stressed for X hours a day and you're like, it all kind of checks out now. And that was, think a really important piece to start this tracking process. then, then taking that in tandem with the cycle tracking and seeing like temperature flipping and how your heart rate doing and your recovery on top of like workouts that you're doing. you're like, okay, yeah, my body's, my body's having a hard time this week because it's

it's like right before my period starts or I'm on my period and it's, actually feel really good. That's great. Okay, awesome. So that was, think, a really cool piece of data that I think, not that I wasn't already invested, but I think helped kind of get there a little bit faster to say, okay, how can I improve these metrics even more?

Yeah, I love, I remember you nerding out on those a lot, which is awesome because I'm sure like you have been nerding it out on it since pregnancy too. Cause we could actually tell right when you got pregnant and what that temperature looks like in the first little bit versus, and then it'll be super cool to see once you're through labor and you'll be, it's amazing. Like my heart rate went from like 60 to 43 in one day. Cause after I gave birth, it's like everything just, and then the HRV goes up like,

yeah.

I'm

percent.

means.

It's wild.

It's like I've tracked my whole, like all the trimesters through the Aura app and it's like, not that I didn't doubt pregnancy was hard on your body, but it is very fast evidence when you see your HRV just plummet, your heart rate's going up and you're like, okay, yeah, no wonder I'm tired. It's just pure evidence that your body is working hard.

Yep.

Yep. What would you say? Cause you kind of, if I asked you like, what were the three biggest things that you learned through the program that helped you go from like being confused, not sure about your fertility journey, being fearful that it's going to struggle to like, got this. And then I believe you got pregnant on your first try, which doesn't, right. We always say three to four months. So when it happens on the first try, it's always nice. Cause then you're like, God, thank God. don't have to wait. Yeah.

It was pretty fast, yeah.

Yeah, totally. I would say the education piece was really important. I think that was the first piece of the puzzle that needed to be solidified to then build from there. So then as I'm learning things, I'm piecing it back together like, OK, maybe it's because of this hormone, maybe it's because of this or that.

I think then layering the testing on top of that. So you've got your education, you've got the testing, now you're like.

fitting the puzzle pieces together. And obviously then the supplements kind of comes supporting there. So you can see them working when you see, know, okay, I'm getting rid of toxins. I can tell I'm recovering better. You know, that's so like, was just really cool to just put the pieces together. And then I think probably like the last piece a little bit too was like, obviously for the whole success of pregnancy, engaging my partner, like my husband, Brian.

He was very supportive through all of it, but wasn't like, I would say, jumping right in. He kind of just watched me. He's a very social butterfly and has a big group of friends. so him like not, know, being, he's at social events a lot. So for him, the doing a detox program or, you know.

For 10 weeks is a long time.

Yeah, it's a lot, it's a big commitment. And so there were certain pieces where I just kind of would change them in our house, our lifestyle. So he wouldn't necessarily do what.

my 100 % would be, but he'd maybe be 70 or 80%. So as I'm changing the food we're buying to be like, we're choosing a few more organic options versus not, or we're getting an air purifier in our room. OK, we've got the sauna. Hey, why don't you jump in there a couple of times a week? Here's some supplements. Take these. Here's some juice. Drink this. And he's just like,

I'm looking at my husband's desk and I'm like, he literally has like four bottles and I'm just like, I label them and I'm like, just take these at lunchtime.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. so that's, did the same thing. I'd be like, here, take these when you run out the door in the morning and you know, we'll have these at dinner. So, so, you know, it's like, okay, it's not, it's certainly not perfect, but it's better than, nothing. And even things like bridge springing awareness, protein consumption, strength training. And so even like he's made a lot of changes through like the type of workouts he's doing, he's doing a lot more strength, you know, focused and, just being mindful of protein. And so it's, you know, it's

Mm-hmm.

like, okay, these are really important changes that move the needle. Even though you're not doing the full detox, you know, you are making really positive changes to your lifestyle. So I think having him on board with that made me feel more supported that I wasn't just carrying the team on it. And so I'd also encouraged him to get when he went for his like annual physical, I was like, get the full blood plan panel. Let's see what that looks like. So he did that we looked at

that and he did get a sperm analysis which I think he was it was good with I think there's one or two markers that were off which really surprised him and I think that was a good wake-up call to say like it's so hard

Men need data. It's so hard to convince men to do anything without data because they're so logical, you know.

Yeah, so that was a really important piece of that too. and then I think

Mm-hmm.

But I would say leading up to us wanting to try, there were definitely changes like reducing alcohol consumption. mean, none of us smoked, so that was never an issue. But I had probably made mine effectively, I don't want to say zero, but maybe like one drink a week if it was a social event and I wanted to. And then Brian definitely cut his back substantially as well.

Did you have a time where you had to sit down and talk with him? Versus, do you know what I mean? Sometimes we're just making our changes and I think your case is different because it's different from what I see in a perspective where you haven't been struggling and the men, when they need logic, there's a lot of times they're like, why would we even, how do you know we're gonna have an issue? Why are you spiraling?

Yes.

Okay.

All

quote unquote, out of control or doing all this testing or taking the supplements or doing all this detoxing, we're not really struggling. And they don't understand what you have been watching or listening and how I'm over here sitting and telling you that preconception care is really important. Let's bring the man on board and I have modules. But I'm just wondering, when was the point where you were like, I need to sit down and actually talk to him and help him understand how important it was? like, you know.

What was your approach to that conversation? You obviously don't have to give us details, but I think this is where a lot of women struggle because their men are like, we're not struggling yet, relax. Or we've only been struggling for six months, you know?

I think it wasn't one conversation, it probably series of many. Because I would say his initial perspective was exactly what you were saying. Like, let's just try if we have problems, then let's do all of this work. And I guess to me, I was just.

Yes, thank you for saying that. That's right.

I think I explained to him like why I wanted to go down this path. was like, okay, I've had some, you know, cycle problems, challenges in the past. This is like a whole, this is unchartered waters for me. So it's really important that I wrap my head around.

this and feel confident going into it. And so it kind of started with like my why and helping him understand that this is actually really important to me. And then we've had I would say amongst our friends of

diversity, some have had excellent pregnancies and some have had really challenging pregnancies and some have had a really hard time getting pregnant or staying pregnant. And so I think being in that environment, your eyes just naturally start to get open to say, okay, this isn't maybe like we just snap our fingers and it is.

Mm-hmm.

Maybe it's not as a given as we thought it would be. Yeah.

It's not. And I think too, I started expressing to him that, to the extent that I can be prepared, like,

how much more successful and optimized my pregnancy will be, how much better I'll feel, so then I'm a better partner through that. And then postpartum too, that it's not, mean, some women get rocked in postpartum, and I mean, I haven't been there, so I don't know yet what mine's is gonna be like, but to the extent that I feel like prepared going into it, I can confidently say that to the extent I'm able to. so I think like sharing some

of those fears and concerns and how I think I want to optimize that kind of shifted his knowledge that, okay, well, maybe some pre-work wouldn't be a bad idea. And I think, and as I kind of went through this process with you and I'm tracking my cycle and I'm learning things, that I'm sharing that with him and I'm like, Brian, this is really positive. You know, like I am.

You know, like I have really great spherical fluid in my mouth.

And he's seeing you change, right? He's seeing you change. He's seeing you be like, your skin is glowing and your digestion is better and you losing a little inflammation and you know, like your presence and all of that changes. And I think I always say we pass just like we can catch a bed bug, like a cold or a flu or whatever. We also share the good microbiome. And so I think about that with my partners, like even if he didn't do anything, your microbiome improving.

will improve his microbiome because now the food that you're cooking, the intimacy, anything, right? Like it's a home that you're sharing. So it's really important, but it's a lot harder when it's just one person doing all this stuff because essentially the bugs are, you know, mixing and matching. But yeah, I mean, once they start seeing it and once they see the data, that's when it goes,

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

We just need them to be on board enough to say, why don't you just go get some lab testing done and then we can see if things are good. And if they are, then we don't need to do anything. And if they're not, then here's how we're going to fix it.

Great.

And I mean, I just feel there's always something you can work on, to the extent that, and that's what I can, you're always gonna find something. And I think it's just.

I'm always going to find something.

It's our lifestyles that you get busy with work, with family, with friends, and things just get tucked to the side. it's, it's a nice like reset to be like, okay, am I drinking two to three liters of water a day? You know, it's like, is that really good quality water I'm drinking? Or let's just start with, let's just drink the water and then we'll work on the quality of the water after, you know? And so that was, I think just like little resets we made in our house. And, you know, there's certain things that he's like, I remember

Yep.

when I was in the detox eating raw garlic, that he's like, I don't really love this week. This isn't awesome, because I can smell that. And I was like, I don't love it either. So that's OK. He's like, I'm not going to do that. That's OK. But you know, when I'm making that liver cleansing juice, he was like, this is awesome. I love this. And when I have it in the fridge, I'm like, OK, here's Brian's bottle. Here's my bottle. You know, it was so good. It's so good. And now he just is like,

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah.

So good, that makes me so happy. I'm like, my babies drink it. And so it's like during pregnancy, I didn't know about in my first pregnancy, but in my second, it helped with nausea. It helped with so many things that it's crazy.

So good.

So good. Yeah. So, and it's funny, cause now he'll be like, Hey, do we have any of the juice left? Can we, can we get some more? Can we order some? Like we get other flavors and it's like, I'm like, yeah, it's a bit time consuming. I can't make it all the time, but yeah, to the extent that he's, you know, wanting to explore some of those paths because he's like, it tastes great. And I know it's good for me. So let's.

Yeah.

Yep, we were just making it the other day and my husband JP as he was making it. He's like Because I chopped it up and I got him to do it through the juice. He's like I don't even need to drink the juice I just feel healthy making it Things in it that you're like, god, I feel so good just making this Yeah When did you know you were ready? And I mean, I'd love for you to talk a little bit more about the mental and emotional component because I think everybody

Right? It's so good.

It's so good. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

who like every woman, it is a very spiritual journey, if you will, because I remember when I met you and you're like, I just want to make sure my period is fine to like, I'm fine. I'm where you know, we haven't decided if we want to have kids to like, no, I'm ready. And I want to start trying now. What was the switch for you, if you will, and some of the mental emotional hurdles that you went through?

Great.

Mm-hmm.

I think, yeah, so to your point exactly, we were very, both Brian and I were very unsure if we want, I think we knew at some point we wanted children, but just mentally was never really there. I think a large part of that is just.

being told that it's going to be a challenge so it was kind of a way of like protecting my inner peace a little bit by saying okay maybe maybe not you know but if i'm unsure and it doesn't happen maybe i'll be less disappointed

And so I think going through this whole process, definitely built with the education, you're seeing the data, you're seeing the metrics changing in your favour, built the confidence to say, okay, like I actually think my body is capable of doing this. And when the time comes, like I'm feeling more optimistic about that.

I don't truly think there was a time where we're like, yes, now is it for us to like, we are ready to have kids, even now pregnant. like, I think this is awesome. But I also am like really nervous, but I'm excited. But I'm like, it's a whole mess of emotions. But I think it was just like, it just, got to a point where

Like,

We were on like I had spent the kind of the spring and summer we working through the detox I felt incredible Like I had been getting completely people to say your skin is glowing or you look super lean and I certainly wasn't on the program for any sort of weight loss But I just like I just remember I got a head shot done at work and looking at the photos. I was like I look like I look really healthy, you know

I look radiant. Look at me. Is that a filter on that? No, that's just me.

And right? Yeah, exactly. And we had gone on actually our honeymoon in September. We went to Africa. And a lot of the medications that you have to take to prepare yourself and protect yourself, the doctors are like, OK, do not get pregnant on these. And I was like, OK. So I remember I said to Brian, you know what? I think when we get back,

let me give my body just one cycle to just process. I'll just kind of get back in the system, jump in the sauna a few times. And then I think, think let's give it a go and see what it's all about. you know, you're like, kind of like, I mean it for lack of better word, you're just kind of, cause you just don't know. And I think we had like very mentally prepared that it might take time and we are obviously fortunate it did not. But to the point though,

soon.

I was tracking my psychol. I knew when I was ovulating. I had all the symptoms and it was just like, you know, you just are like,

You weren't tracking it with the late strips. You were just tracking it on like your symptoms. Right. Because I think that's a very important point.

Yep, exactly. actually, did use, I did use LH strips just because I was curious to see if it matched up.

Sure,

with what I was seeing. But no, it was just like the paper tracker that you had provided and just to say, okay, like what is the consistency of this fluid? And, you know, do I think that this is peaking and is it not? And where are we in the cycle? And I remember just sharing all the data with Brian and I was like, okay, like this is what's happening. And it was probably within...

It was so short shortly after that. I was like something's different and I aura rings The temperature is just skyrocketing and I'm like, okay something's off like there's a really good chance I might be pregnant and I remember kind of sharing this with Brian because I was like so doubtful that I was like something's off but you know, it could be but it's like of course you could be like

The temperature.

Yeah, we tried.

We understand biology. Like, of course you could be, you know? But it just kind of, you're just watching it. And I remember, so yeah, there wasn't like a time when I'm like, okay, yeah, this is it. need, like, I am fully ready, but it was just like, I think I had the confidence in my body and I was like excited to try. Let's see what happens. And I also felt like I had a lot of resources behind me that I'm like, okay.

let's give it a few months and see what happens. And if not, we know how to pivot. And I think I was actually doing the Dutch test right in that period of time. And I said to the gal, was like, I don't think I'm pregnant, but if I am, does that wreck the test? She's like, oh yeah, it totally voids it. I was like, okay, yeah, there's no way I am, but like, I'll just keep going along. And then sure enough, voided it. I was like, whoops, okay, well.

yet.

Yeah.

Yeah. I think I don't want to like oversimplify it, but if I look at zoom out and look at your journey and you came feeling very fearful, uncertain, and like you said, very protective of just like, maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. And genuinely I see this a lot and I very much like I challenged my patients and you know, my participants in the program always to like.

Wait, for another time.

What is this about? Is this because you don't want to be disappointed versus you truly don't want to have children? Because I've seen women time and time again when they confront that fear and that disappointment all of a sudden it's like no you know what I really do want to have kids I'm just saying that so then in case it doesn't work out I'm okay.

Mm-hmm.

And it's totally valid, but I think it's important to bring that out because it is a very different energy of like, no, I'm ready. So I don't want to oversimplify it, but it seems like you were in the space where you were really fearful, really not sure to like, I'm excited and let's do it. Let's like curious. And the biggest factor was like, you just had a deeper understanding of your body. And that's what essentially made you go from, I have no idea what's going to happen to like, let's see what happens.

The horn.

Yeah.

Totally. That's very accurate. Yes. No, because I remember just when we thought back.

Is that, like, is that accurate?

Just the knowledge and how your body works. That's amazing.

Yes. Well, I just remember saying to Brian, think we should give it a go. Let's see what happens. I think also, yes, age is always in the back of your head. Just being a female, inherently it is. But we think we were also just at a chapter in our lives where we had done a lot individually. We had done a lot and achieved a lot together.

Yeah.

It's just kind of like very, everything kind of works out in a really nice way. And it was just like really great timing to the extent that you can't time these sorts of things, but reflecting back on it and like, this is, this is perfect for us. And we're, feel really grateful for that.

Yep. Yep. It's sometimes it, I mean, and here's what I'll say is there is a lot of women who do plan like you do, but there is not a lot of women who act proactively in this is what like they've been told that they would struggle and then they didn't do anything because they didn't know what to do. They were just right. And now we have so much information.

Right.

that the whole point is if you feel like you're gonna struggle because you have psycho issues, because you've been on birth control for five, six, 10, 15 years, then even if you don't wanna have a kid, ever, why not optimize your health, period? You know?

Right. Well, and I think I know you've said it, but I've heard many others say it as well. Your cycle being your monthly report card and to the extent that you don't have one or you're suppressing it or you just are kind of ignoring it. I like, think that's a huge disservice to ourselves. And I was definitely in the let's suppress it. I will deal with that when I want to. Right. It was great.

Yeah, you said it earlier. You were like, I don't have a period for 10 years. It was fantastic.

It was great. And I think that, and I said this even to Brian from the get go that I'm like, at the end of all this, if I have optimal health, that's great. You know, if I get pregnant at the end, even like that's even better. But there's just what I have nothing to lose by trying to optimize my health. And I don't know, I think

cycles and periods can be just demonized a bit and it's better to not have one than have one or it's just like, I haven't had one in six months, whatever, you know? And I think that, I think there are the changes happening where women are becoming more aware and feeling like I need to understand my body better. But it's taken a long time to get there and I feel like of kind of.

girlfriends that I have and of kind of my network of people. We were kind of of that, I would say generation that came up that it was like, have you go on birth control, you go off birth control when you want to get ready. And we don't talk about cortisol levels and stress too much. And you just work out lots and you just eat low fat and you know, proteins, protein, like whatever, eat it, don't eat it, just like, keep lean, do cardio. And

Yeah, I was in that generation too,

Mm-hmm.

It's like I think that generations need, it's changing. We're making those changes now because we're like, you know what? Our health isn't optimal anymore. We need to, there's better things we can do.

Yeah, well, I mean, even if I look at my mom who like has never lifted a weight and won't because it's just she's 65. That's not a thing that her generation ever did. And what a shame. Right. Because now we have women. If I look around and I see women who are lifting weights and getting strong and I'm like, yes, like we are doing it. You know, the CrossFit obviously has changed that. lots of things have changed that and popularized it because, know, you just

It's not strong as the new skinny, I think. Is that the same? Yeah.

Yeah, I believe so. I think it holds true. And I feel the same way. My mom was the same, and my sister and I were heavy in the CrossFit world. And we expressed to our parents how important protein consumption was. And we'd come home from school, and we'd share these learnings that we had from whatever we were learning at CrossFit at that point in time. And my parents found my mom goes and lifts weights.

Mm-hmm.

My dad, you know, he's, he, wouldn't say is like lifting heavy weights, but he's still doing strength training and they're both finding ways to stay super active. And I mean, like they both look incredible. And obviously like they're excited to be new grandparents, but that wasn't the motivation before that it was, you know, bone density and health and flexibility and. You know, lung capacity and cardiovascular activity and that's worth.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yep. There's so many benefits.

There's so many benefits and you see, think as Brian and I are observing amongst, I would say our, like our peers, both our age and our parents age, those who are choosing the active lifestyles, you know, are, you see the difference in aging rates very quickly. And there was a really interesting podcast I listened to and they were talking about, some of they were interviewing

somebody on it and they had said, know, you know, it's easy when you become parents to like give so much of your time to your children and sacrifice so much. it's like, well, we don't disagree. That is also the time you need to be able to carve out for yourself. Like you should be as a new parent, the strongest you've been, the fittest you've been, because that is just makes you a better parent and is a role model to your family. And it's like, how cool is it to have your

for sure.

you know, your kid go up to you and say, dad, I'm so like proud. Like you're so strong. Like that was so cool. Whatever you did versus, know.

They might not even say that. I've coached kids for a long time, like with gymnastics, and then obviously now having my own kids. And the biggest thing that I will say is when I watch the kids who were successful, not just in gymnastics, but they continue to stay active throughout. Because the kids that I coach, they're like 25 now, which is crazy to believe because I'm like, am I that old? But the kids that were successful and continue to be active in, whether it was gymnastics or any other sports,

Mm-hmm.

You're

had parents who were just active versus the parents who would sit on the sidelines and wanted their kids to do the sports but never did any activity. And to me, like my kids, when they watch us work out, they just think that's part of the norm. So they don't think I'm great for doing pull-ups or doing whatever because they don't have a...

They don't have a baseline of any kind, but to them now it becomes normal for a female to do pull-ups. So they're learning and they're repeating after me to be like, hey, I should be able to do a pull-up. And if we take the CrossFit world, how many women versus how many men can do a strict pull-up, it's a really small number in comparison because it was just like, we don't lift weights, right?

Great.

What?

All right.

very, very much changing, which is important and good to see for the next generation. Yeah. Tell me, wasn't it hard for you to invest into the fertility journey and supplements and sauna? Because right, like it all gets expensive. Was it hard for you to invest when you didn't, like you haven't been struggling with infertility?

I agree, it's super cool.

Listen to me.

I would say I looked at it in pieces. I mean, there's definitely, you could have done all the supplements, all like the sauna, all the rooms, all the labs all at once. And I think I had talked to you about this and I was like, can we just kind of do one step at a time?

All the labs, all the things.

And I think had I come to you with challenges and had we been struggling, then that would have totally changed the script. But I think...

I looked at it more as, okay, let's do it as like a one step at a time. So for the supplements, I think I was doing like half doses on some of them just to like prolong and to just see, and because I wanted Brian to do them too. So was like, okay, this does add up really quickly, but okay, let's just do half is better than zero. So let's start there. And then I remember for like the juicer, I think I asked for it for Christmas. you know, wasn't like I didn't start it right away in the program, but it was like a few months after.

Yeah.

Yes.

after that I had added that in and then things like the sauna. It's something that was again, something that I was just, think I watched for sale to have, you know, so like certainly it's not like it's not cheap. Like I'm not going to sugar coat it. Like it does take an investment. But I think to me it was, well, okay. Like the sauna, I thoroughly enjoy this and I know it's, it's a

Totally, yeah.

The sauna is probably one of the better, like the sauna and the air filters are probably my favorite. I just freaking love that Jasper. Yeah.

Yes, the air filter was, yeah. Well, my gosh, it's so good. But I think even I had reached out to my insurance and I said, hey, if I have a requisition, can I push this through? They said, yeah, sure. So I mean, even my oar ring, I pushed through insurance. it was, you know, they were like little things to help with it, but all in all, was...

There's a will, there's a way.

Exactly. You kind of just make it work. But I think I didn't like jump in fully in it. I just did smaller steps. I think 100%. You don't have to.

Which is the bonus of being proactive. Because you don't have to, right? Like you don't have to, yeah.

when I think Brian saw it too as well. So I was like, I would talk about it for a little bit and kind of get his thoughts on it. Be like, hey, if I got a sonnet, like, would you have interest in using that? you know, and little things he'd be like, yeah, actually, that sounds great. So that kind of motivated me too, because I'm like, okay, he's on board, I'm on board. Okay, this makes a lot of sense. It's not just me using it. And so yeah, little things like that were helpful, but certainly is an investment.

Yeah. No, thank you for sharing that. do think it's like when you're not struggling, it's being proactive, but then it's just figuring out and watching for sales and all that kind of stuff. It's when asking people your, the birthday gifts, like I love that because that's honestly like, Hey, I don't want X, Y, and Z plastic this year. Can you give me this? Like we just live in a time where you could go out and buy whatever you need in persp- right? Like it's not

Yeah.

Yeah, just like little things, yeah.

the same when my parents were like, we only had one toy for Christmas that was given to us. So it's just being more mindful how you're consuming and where things are coming from. then just like, whether it's asking for money or asking, cause you know, like sauna is a big gift, but maybe someone can give a hundred bucks and then another person 50 and whatever you can add up.

Thanks.

Yeah.

Yeah, well that's what I would just ask for. Yeah.

Well, I remember seeing, think it was for one of the pieces I was getting, I had said to my mom, she was looking for a Christmas present idea and I said, hey, this is what I want to buy. Do you want to put some money towards that? This is, and she's okay, yeah, great. Cause it's, they know it's going towards something. So they wasn't an issue.

There you go.

Yeah. Tell us about the pregnancy and how it's been. What's your experience?

Yeah, so, yeah, so I mean, we kind of talked about this briefly, but when I guess I first thought I was pregnant, like it was, I suspected something was different. And I don't know if it, you you just kind of, you just, it's intuition, you just feel something was different.

No. Well, when you know what your norm is in your body and you've been tracking it, you can tell when something is off, but it's not off because, and I mean, you've seen, think you've been on a couple of calls where some of the other members were like, I just feel terrible in this. And I'm like, take a pregnancy test. And then they take a pregnancy test. Like, my God, I was pregnant. And it was like, yeah, you know, yeah.

No, and I remember I was in, we were at our family's cabin over the holidays and I was like on touring skis, skidding up the hill with my dad and we'd come home and I'd be like, gosh, I'm really tired. But so was he, we both nap in the afternoon. so I didn't really think much of it. I remember like, I'm like, maybe.

I'm just gonna a nap with my dad and everyone's like, what?

It like I just both crashed on the couch and you know it's kind of like well it is a big workout so but no honestly it was it kind of the first trimester I mean I don't think the first trimester is a breeze for anybody to be totally honest I was really lucky I was never I was nauseous but never sick

Yeah.

low energy and I remember, you know, just like walking the dog was a bit of a chore some days, but I'm in the with my job. I'm in the office most days of the week. So to the extent that my daily activities were changed was not the case. I was still getting up and working out and just kind of kept a level of normalcy just because that mentally. No.

Yeah, your workouts changed. Do know what I mean? Like you weren't pushing hard and you're taking naps in the afternoon.

Well, and I remember I was running a bit. This would have been January, but I was running on the treadmill and would do Sundays. That would be kind of like my running day. And I was like PRing my 5K and I'm like...

Okay, I should probably dial this back a little bit because I like I had just kind of just found out I was pregnant and but I was feeling good like energy was good, but it was just the recovery was what was poor and that's what I noticed more. I was like, okay, I'm pretty good at pushing through but I would find like my if I ran really hard on the Sunday my sleep score the Sunday night would be poor and my Monday would struggle a bit. And so was like, okay, this is my body same either

If you're going to do this, need to really prioritize recovery or just dial it back. And so that's what I ended up doing. I just started dialing it back a little bit. And so the first trimester, good. All things considering, manageable, positive.

And then I think that was you and I were still, I was still part of the group. We were still chit chatting. And then as I kind of transitioned into the second trimester, I kind of broke away from the group for a bit. and that was kind of energy rebounded. and then honestly it stayed up really high since I felt really good. I was expecting third trimester to be a little bit more of a, like a slog to be totally frank. Like I thought from what I've heard, from what people told me, they're like, get

all your organization and nursery stuff done by the second trimester. Do yourself a favor and get ahead of that. just time flew and life flew and it just all was poof. You're in the third trimester and you're like, I have not done anything. So we need to get on that. But I have even these last couple of weeks, certainly by six, seven o'clock after a full day of work.

tired. Like I'm ready to just get horizontal for a little bit, hang with the dog, be in the yard, and just be off my computer and disengage from work and all those activities. But even around the office, people have said, honestly, if I didn't see you from the waist down, I wouldn't even know you were pregnant. know, like you don't have...

Yeah. There's no puffiness. is no, yeah, you're.

I just like clear mental clarity is still very sharp. You don't have that brain fog. You know, like I haven't felt like my work capacity has diminished in any way because I'm just like too tired. And so for that, I think that that's just like my body's well, like nutrient dense foods. I have supplements on like I'm taking them obviously daily. I also.

Yep. You know, just like taking one thing, I think there's a lot of people who really underestimate like how much you're actually taking on a regular basis. And then also the quality of it, you know, like we, we have some people going through the program. They're like, well, but he used to be fine doing this. And I'm like, you are literally taking the best supplements in the world. Even if you're not taking it the full dose or all 10 of them, and you're only taking five, you're still taking like the best thing that you can get right now in the world, arguably.

No.

awesome.

that it's very different. Like your body starts to respond because your cells are constantly rebuilding themselves and they're constantly changing, you know? So it makes me so proud. Like I'm just meeting some beautiful pregnant ladies out there walking around with energy and just redefining it. it's like you don't have to be exhausted. You don't have to be puffy. You don't have to be. And the work happens way before.

Mm-hmm.

Bye.

Yeah.

You know, and obviously it's important everything that you do throughout the pregnancy. But when you do the preparation and you're like making juices or you know when to rest or, you know, I was thinking, I was like, well, you're not going to get tired because you're an endurance athlete. So like, you know how to go for long distances. So I don't expect you to get too tired.

and

What? Yeah. It's, No. And it is funny, I'm sorry, like, people have said, oh, you know, you're really, and I have admitted, I'm like, I feel very fortunate to have had this pregnancy journey, but...

in the back of my head it's like this was not luck like this was two years of work that went into that to say i need to prepare my body for this and i mean brian is the first to admit when anyone says oh you guys got pregnant so quickly he's like yeah but like morgan did so much

Hmm, yeah.

Yeah, she was nuts for two years.

Yeah, she was crazy on the supplements and the healthcare. And I mean, it is funny, like, of Brian's, I would say of all of our group of friends. Like, I'm the health freak, for lack of a better word. But in my head, but I do, wear it proudly because I'm like, you know what?

I love it. Wear that title proud.

blood shift the norm a little bit more towards the health freak side versus the complacent of society. I think too, like one of the things I had to change, obviously alcohol consumption is just like a very inherent, like natural thing that just comes back. As soon as you start focusing on your health, there are no...

you can't outweigh the pros of alcohol. it just doesn't hold value. There's no pros. It just doesn't hold value in your life anymore. I remember too, I'd be at events and like, I said, Brian's very social. So we'd be at barbecues or outings or at a bar or whatever. And I'd have my soda and lime, or maybe I'd have one drink or half a drink or something, depending on the event and if I was wanting it.

There's no pros, yeah.

Yeah.

the end of the day, I'm like 10 o'clock. See ya. I'm out of here. My sleep is so valuable. I'm such a morning person. Have you seen this data? Yeah. you know, out of times I've just pulled up the app and I'm like, okay, here's what you need to know.

Have you seen the data? You're like showing them. Look at this.

But it's because more and more people are wearing the aura ring. And I'm like, well, are you tracking your HIV? How is it looking? What's your recovery? What is? And we're starting. And it's just like, if you don't have any thing to compare against, because that's how I started, I had no benchmarks. then working like the chart you gave us of like, here's the range of like, excellent, here's good, and here's needs work. And so when you're like, I'm in the like needs work category, it's like, okay, how do I

But only on the nights that I drink. And then when I don't drink, my, right? Like I've had people quit drinking cause they're just like, this is so bad for me. And I'm like, I know. Yeah. Yeah.

What?

Yeah, yes, yes it is. But it was like very much you have to make that mental shift in there too of like what is important to me and what's.

Where do I hold value and where do I want to put my energy and you know, think it was Taylor Swift and her podcast she was saying energy is expensive and not everyone can afford it and I think that that just like hits home first in so many levels, but you're like, it's exactly it it's like where do I want to spend my energy and is this worth it and so I think that was kind of also a mental part of the journey of

what, how do I want to spend my time and energy? And Brian laughs now, cause he'll say, I'll say, Brian, I don't care if they think that about me or I really, I'm very unfazed if they have an opinion about this because I don't care. And I'm just gonna move on with my life. Like it's really, it's fine. it's, you know, some people.

Yes, good for you.

Yeah.

I think it's easy to get flustered over things and stress about it. And I think that that's whole journey. like, this is what's important to me. This is what I want to achieve. And I still make time to have fun and see my friends, but how I do that is different. And that's just something you learn as part of the process.

Yeah. I just think it's somebody who you become. was the same. mean, you know, when I quit drinking, I just remember it was because of CrossFit. I'm like, if I drink, then I feel like crap. My training is ruined for two or three days. Like in terms of being able to really push and have capacity again. And I'm like, I can't, if I drink two or three times a week, which I was back then, then I'm essentially ruining. I only have one or two good CrossFit sessions.

a week and so it just didn't make sense. And I love what you said about being the health rep. Like, can we make being healthy cool again? I really think about that with my kids because when my girls go to school, so like my eldest is almost eight, I, she thinks that sugar is lame, like eating cookies or eating. And I'm like, that's right. So I want to teach that because it's like, since when is it?

Yeah.

No.

cool to eat chemicals, you know, or to do whatever, like, or to have allergies or so just making being healthy cool again. I'm like, yeah, that's, I'm, that's what I'm about. And I love that you have made that switch because it's now there's two of us that are out there and there's more than two of us, but you know what I mean? And then you'll have your baby and there's certain things you'll look at your baby and you'll be like, I'm not putting this stuff on my kid or I'm not putting this on their skin or whatever it is.

I mean.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

You just think so differently. my shift, cause when I had nods, I was like, I don't want to like put crappy lotions on her cause she's so pure and I don't want to feed her this food. But we were still like back then we were not filtering everything and you know, and then I'm like, why am I not doing this for myself? That doesn't make sense. And so then that's when I started the switch and it's, you know, it's been eight years and we're still switching certain products out or written things out. Cause it just takes.

Thank you.

before.

8.

Of course.

forever to really get the chemicals and the toxins out of your home.

It's so true and that's kind of, feel like our next, I don't want to say uphill battle, but I have said to Brian, like, is, I said, if like even things like a plastic bottle versus a glass bottle. And I said to Brian, I don't drink out of plastic bottles. Why would we give that to our child? And so it's just like, I think it's...

to your point, you just have to like jump in and make the switch. And then I think to the extent that you have other, you know, family involved, you have to kind of say, you know what, this is what we're choosing. This is why.

And this is why if you want to follow great along if you don't totally fine also.

Yeah, exactly. But at the same time, don't feed our kids artificial dyes and sugars and whatever because that's like you want to be the fun whomever. It's like, no. OK, if we want...

And this is, mean, I grew up in a house where we, always baked everything from scratch. My mom's and sister are excellent bakers. So we never had like go to the store and get cookies. It was like, if you want a cookie, you make it. And, and I think that that's very much been instilled in, in, in my family for sure. and even now, like it's, you know, rare, if I get a treat, it's maybe from the farmer's market or something where I know it's, you know, it's not perfect, but it's certainly better than like a grocery store.

You're wicked.

gas station or something like that. And I think we've kind of shared that with Brian as well. Like, okay, when we're raising our kids, you know, let's think about those sorts of things. Like what are we, what are the quality of food we're feeding them? What's the quality of the environment, the air, you know? And it's like, they don't have to be, you know, we don't have to be perfect, but if we can control some like really big influences, they're going to come out ahead because of that.

I mean, the preconception care is everything that it don't get me wrong, the environment and all of it really matters too. But when the preconception care is there, it just because that's the genetic code that gets downloaded and the methylation pattern and all that stuff that gets downloaded.

and then how the body works with it, works with the metals, works with the environmental toxins is so different. It can excrete it a lot easier versus keeping it and so on and so forth. So it's very exciting. Morgan, as we're finishing this off, there anything like, think about Morgan three years ago, is there anything that you would say a piece of advice that you would give to women out there listening who might be in the same situation that you were three years ago, five years ago?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good question. I would say we all need to detox. That's something that there's just so much. just are in the environment, in the world we're in. You can't not need a detox. Everyone benefits from it. And I think just small changes add up. I think it's easy to...

Hehehehe

And as we kind of address to see, you know, here's all of the things you can do and it's going to cost you this much to do that. And it's going to be this much investment of both time and money. But the little things do add up and I think help build the confidence to get you to the next piece and build that. know it's just I think it doesn't take much to move the needle in the right direction.

Yeah, I think that what I picked up from you, sounds like, and if you're like, if you're the kind of person listening to this, that you really like data, it was like the aura ring was a big needle mover for you.

Mmm.

because it allowed you to see how everything else was impacting you. Like I remember having conversations about your sleep and you're like, my heart rate is dropping, but it's not dropping until right before I'm about to wake up, which we're like, well, you're not getting enough sleep. So if just knowing what kind of person you are and if you need data, something like that can move the needle so much more for you because then you make choices like going to bed earlier, not drinking.

Thanks.

Thank

Mm-hmm.

watching your stress because now you're like, did I have such crappy sleep? I didn't do anything. I was at a computer for 10 hours straight and I didn't do any movements. So then you get that feedback and you start changing it.

Great.

Yes, 100%. I agree.

Yeah. Well, thank you, Morgan. I'm so excited for you. Congratulations. And I agree. It was a luck. I love my proactive women. I know all the women I want everyone to have lots of babies and I want you guys to have a beautiful experience. And I know sometimes we can't control that because you will just have the experience you need to have. But the more that we can take into our hands, there's a lot more that we can control. And I think you did just such a fantastic job. So I'm really glad it's paying off.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Well, thank you. Thanks for all your help to get here. I couldn't have done it without you. That's for sure. Thanks, Jane.

Thank you. Thanks, Morgan. Hold on, where do I stop this?

Yeah.