The podcast dives into a critical review of the animated film "The Polar Express," highlighting the disjointed storytelling and questionable animation choices that left the hosts underwhelmed. JJ expresses his skepticism about the film's ability to convey the essence of Christmas, suggesting it feels more like a commercialized product than a heartfelt story. Mattson and Alec add their insights, with Mattson particularly criticizing the film's reliance on motion capture technology, which he feels hasn't aged well, resulting in characters that appear almost robotic. The discussion also touches on the broader trend of adapting beloved children's books into feature-length films, questioning whether such efforts dilute the original messages and charm of the source material. Ultimately, the hosts agree that while "The Polar Express" has its moments, it falls short of being a memorable holiday classic, prompting them to recommend viewers seek out other, more engaging Christmas movies.

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I just think this was like Robert Zus saying, I want to make this movie about this book.

And calling his friend Tom Hanks and saying, hey, can you do like eight voices in this movie for me?

And we'll go from there.

Welcome to the what's a Verdict podcast where we fashion ourselves cinematic judge and jury.

My name is JJ Crider.

I'm here with my co host Matz.

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Go tell a friend, family member, train conductor.

Yeah.

A bunch of crazy people and some, you know.

No, don't tell kids about us.

That's not a good idea.

But thought we were wholesome entertainment.

J.J.

not so much.

Maybe not.

Maybe you are with that.

Yeah.

We're continuing on week three.

Week four.

Week four.

Geez.

Week four of December and Christmas movies.

We're kicking week four off and just running right down the the line of Christmas with the Polar Express.

It was written by Chris Van Alsberg and Robert Zemeckis.

It is directed by Robert Zemeckis, stars Tom Hanks, Chris Coppola, Michael Jeter, Leslie Zemeckis, Eddie Deason, Nona Gay, Peter Scolari, Brendan Keane and Andy Pellick.

It is about on Christmas Eve.

A young boy embarks on a magical adventure to the North Pole on the Polar Express while learning about friendship, bravery, and the spirit of Christmas.

That's a very generous synopsis.

Yeah.

So quick, quick trivia.

I'm curious for both of you.

How many pages is the actual book?

16.

Yeah.

110.

Both of your.

I mean, Alex, way closer than you.

32, but 60.

Al, you got to remember there's illustrations in this thing.

There you go.

It's a picture book, but.

And then how many.

Approximately how many words are in this book?

16.

I'm gonna give JJ 900.

Yeah.

Wait, wait.

JJ, way to go.

They.

According to chat GPT, I don't know if any.

It says somewhere between like a thousand to twelve hundred.

But this is if you.

I haven't cracked open this book in forever.

The pages that actually have text, there's like an actual.

There's a real story to this book.

It's not just like those little children's books where it's like.

And he opened present bells.

But what the point I'm trying to get to is how is this movie 140.

An hour and 40 minutes.

Like I.

If they did an hour and 20 minutes still, I'm like, like, bro, there's just so much in this movie that just makes me want to pull my hair out and.

And then the other thing, having just watched the last, I have to say before I get this off my chest, is whoever did the animation creepy to me?

Like, there's times when I'm looking like I just.

It's just the warm and fuzzy.

Like on the kids it kind of looks fine.

But any of the elves and all that, I'm just like, man, sometimes you freeze framed it.

They just look creepy in their movements.

Like.

Like they took Dobby from Harry Potter, tried to make it look cuter.

Sometimes it worked and many times it's just playing it flat in its face.

I'm gonna stop painting for a little bit.

I have more complaints about this movie.

My dad, Bald Eagle, Ronnie D.

Sorry to trash in your movie, but it sucks.

I've never cracked this book and this was the first time I'd watched this movie in its entirety because I can't handle the animation.

And it just never has made a lot of sense to me from like.

Like it's just such a disjointed movie all over the place.

But I.

It's so funny story.

Like, Casey loves Christmas.

She loves Christmas movies.

Like, we watch some very terrible during Christmas.

Like all of the Netflix garbage and the.

Like, we watch it all.

Well, she watches it all.

I sit and do other things on my phone or something, but like it's on playing in my house.

So I was telling cases like we're watching Christmas movies this month.

I was like, so it's round two.

Because like the other day I was like, we gotta watch.

I gotta watch Polar Express.

I gotta watch cloth.

So we sit down, she goes, okay.

And I turn on Polar Express.

And like five minutes into it she's like, I need you to watch this somewhere else.

And I was like, God damn it.

So then I'm ended up.

I end up watching it in my office here.

And then like, I'm just like, well, this is because, like, it's so bad.

Like, she goes, I just can't handle the animation.

And I don't.

Like, this is weird.

What's wrong with the animation?

Talk to me about it.

Like, it just feels off putting.

I think it was in the, like, I don't even know.

Like, it couldn't have been that first attempt at a full cgi.

I think it was the attempt to try to make it look human and cgi.

Like either you're gonna be like, you either need to do it live action and pay the money.

Which you probably would have paid less for live action than they did in this movie.

I don't know what the budget was, but I bet you it was up there.

Or like make it full on animated.

Like make it cartoony but like, I don't know, it just didn't work.

Like it's fine in like a Toy Story thing where the humans look goofy because it's not about them, but like when it's about them.

Yeah, it just didn't work.

So the reason it didn't work is they used motion capture technology and uh, but it was like in the early era of it and panning it with animation.

And I guess what you see is what you get clearly way better now.

But it's just this movie has not aged well because I think a lot of it is some of the facial expressions and things, it just like isn't fully there and then they kind of come off like humanish robot ish and like devoid of emotion at times.

And some of the smiles.

That's what I remember.

Some of us was like, you look like Alec with a knife behind his back.

It's good stuff.

What about you, Alec?

What do you think of old Polar Express?

I don't think I hate it as much as you guys do.

But the two parts that I enjoy are probably the two parts that could get cut because I really enjoy everything with the Hobo fair and then the engineers.

Like both of those parts or anything that those characters are involved in.

I think it's hilarious.

The rest of it I can kind of do without.

I mean the Hot Chocolate song's catchy, I like that.

But it's out of place and you know, I think it's just they try to do too much with a 32 page book to turn it into an hour and 40 minute long movie.

And what they tried to do didn't land well or fit to where the fault we got.

Yeah, I, I agree.

So I will say as J is talking just the hot chocolate scene, it they actually like reference hot chocolate in Polar Express, the book.

So that's one of the ones where I'm like, yeah, but they didn't do.

A huge musical number.

I think it's great.

But, but that's where it makes sense to me why they would have done a musical bit to that.

Because you got, you got to stretch out like two sentences into like a four minute bit or whatever.

It was like, I can accept that.

Where, like, the hobo, for instance, did not exist in the book.

And then they made something completely out of left field where I really don't care for his scene so much because it just feels completely out of touch with the book.

But, yeah, Yeah, I think it benefits me that I've never read the book.

If you read the book, it's worse because then you just are really like.

I don't think it's worse where they're going.

I.

I just think this was like Robert Zemeckis saying, I want to make this movie about this book.

And calling his friend Tom Hanks and said, hey, can you do, like, eight voices in this movie for me?

And we'll go from there.

Now, what was the choice on that as well?

I don't know.

Well, because it's Tom Hanks, and if he does, like, six voices, then you only got to pay Tom Hanks.

Sure.

You know what I mean?

Like, I.

I don't know.

I.

That's what this has always felt like to me.

And it's kind of funny because I think the only reason that it's as popular as it is is because it's got Tom Hanks in it and it's a popular book, and so people just naturally gravitate to it and go, oh, I love the book.

I love the movie.

It's.

I just don't see.

I don't know.

And maybe it's because I pair.

Part of it is because I've never.

One Christmas movies have never been, like, my favorite thing unless they're off the wall and weird and.

Or comedies, things like that.

But, like, this one just doesn't.

It just.

I don't.

Even at the end, like, when you're supposed to feel all like, yay, Christmas.

And, like, I'm just like, meh.

I don't like it.

Like, it just didn't do anything for me.

And I think part of that, too, is it feels like the whole movie.

And I remember watching it the first time when I first watched, like, the first half of it before, I was like, I can't do this anymore.

Years ago, Like, I was like, is this a dream?

Is it not a dream?

Is this kid cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs?

Like, what the is going on right now?

Like, and I think I was so distracted, and I found myself this way, too.

Like, I was asking those same questions.

I was like, I mean, I don't understand.

Like, I'm so distracted by trying to figure out if this dude's really on a train.

Because it's all magical.

And Santa and.

Or if he's pissed because he went down and the cookies weren't eaten.

And so now he, like, actually did fall asleep and he's dreaming of, like, Santa and the whole thing.

Like, I'm just, like, so distracted.

And me.

I mean, that's my ADD mind.

But I was just like.

Then I was like, oh, wait, we're.

What the hell's going on with all these?

Like, that sounds like Tom Hanks again.

And I just can't focus anything in this movie.

So disjointed.

It's all over the place.

Yeah, Tom Hanks stuff throws your mouth in the book.

It's.

It's about.

As you see at the end, the one thing this book does well is it has a good message at the end.

Uh, it's.

It's the belief of Christmas and being able to hear the Chris.

The.

Like, the jingle bell and having that belief.

And the book hits at home.

And I will say the end of this movie, like, as we talked about earlier this month, Christmas movies that actually, like, send a message home when they.

When the conductor's punching the tickets and the stupid nerd kid with the glasses needs to learn.

I don't know.

I just didn't put, like, shut up on his ticket or something like that.

I might have been best.

The girl that got lead and then his one believe is.

Is what's in the book.

And it's like keeping that belief in Christmas, like, all year round, like, in your heart.

And so I think from what.

I haven't read the book in a while, but I think the reason, like, the train appeared for him is because his belief was lacking.

And obviously this was a journey to strengthen that.

But the problem with this movie is you don't really feel that or know that and maybe till, like, the very end.

Because, like, you're saying, Jay, there's just a hodgepodge of things, and you're like, oh, maybe this is the message I'm supposed to take away from this.

But they don't really, like, make you feel that maybe till the end.

And they just put a bunch of other things in front of your face and there's like, six Tom Hanks characters.

And then you're just left to wonder what you're watching.

Yeah, I.

I think I'm gonna have to read the book and so that I can understand, like.

Because it sounds like they took something that actually was pretty good and had a good message and were like, let's make it over.

Bloated and Full of that didn't exist in the book.

But you can't make a movie about a 16 page book.

Well, it's the same thing with like the Grinch movies, right?

Like they're starving for content and maybe some of those were better done than this, but suffers from the same issues.

Like you got very little subject matter to work with and then you got to stretch it and usually doesn't work.

Yeah.

Because we already f up enough books turned into large books turned into movies that were already screwing up.

So what are we gonna do with like a 30 page children book?

Yeah.

Maybe not make it into a movie, right?

Yeah, just leave it a book.

I don't know.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Yeah, but I mean, that's a.

It's a pretty strong commentary on Hollywood in general right now.

Like, ooh, people read this book.

Let's make a movie.

It's just like the.

Is going on right now.

Like, you don't have to.

It could just be a good book.

Like, I swear to God.

Yeah, but nobody knows how to read anymore.

J.J.

that's the issue.

There's.

There's a comedian, I don't remember his name, but he's from Cleveland and he makes me laugh.

Like, he's really.

He's kind of like an angry comic type guy.

But he's like, he talks about that.

Like he was like, man, when I was in school.

He's like, they.

Who wants, who wants to read?

And he's like, nobody reads.

It's like, that's what you got a movie for.

Let's go watch the movie.

He's like, I was in school, like, they made us read Jaws.

And he's like, why would I read the looks.

Oh, it's.

Look, you got a movie.

It's got a 50 foot mechanical shark.

It's got this actor and he's got like this.

And it's like awesome, intense.

He goes, the book's got pages.

What do I do with that?

Everything good's made into a movie.

Go watch the movie.

I was like, sure, I prefer books.

I mean the only.

I'm trying to think of.

So only two books that come to mind that like the movies were like pretty well done.

Lord of the Rings and Ready Player One.

Solid adaptation.

Pretty across, like pretty good.

In my opinion.

They missed out on some things.

But.

And like the Harry Potter ones, like, yeah, they did fine.

But yeah, I wouldn't know about the Harry Potter.

I mean, these days, like without people writing books, like, what is.

What does Hollywood want to do they.

They just get lazy.

Like, ah, it's a good book.

Let's turn into a movie.

Do we even write original stuff anymore?

Hell no.

There's very few and even ones, like there's been some that I was like, yeah, this is great.

It's new, it's different.

Then I was like, oh, it's based on a short story.

Yeah, it was.

There's a.

A Matt Damon movie.

And I can't think of the name of it now.

But like, that was.

That's one.

The last one that I was like, this is great.

It's different.

It's.

We.

Oh, it's not original.

They stole it from a short story.

But I think one of the biggest problems with all book adaptations, in my opinion, is it's either too long because they try to cover everything.

Because, look, I love the Lord of the Rings movies, but when you start throwing in like the extended editions that actually cover all the material, good God, you're watching movies for a week.

And so it's like.

But you need that to get the detail of that a book can provide.

Or they miss out on a bunch of.

Or you get this one where there's not enough content to actually make a movie.

So you end up with weird ass hobos and engineers that you're like, where these guys come from?

No matter how entertaining they might be, they still.

You like, no, what the hell's going on?

So I, I don't know.

I'm just.

We've talked a lot about this in previous episodes.

Like, I'm just so skeptical about Hollywood these days.

That's why I don't.

It's unfortunate because I used to go to movies constantly.

The pandemic ruined it for me.

Well, as we say that though currently there's three good movies in theaters that, I mean, one's a sequel, Moana 2.

Well, two.

Another one's a sequel, Gladiator 2.

And then one was written as a play.

It turned into a movie.

So I guess while they're good movies, it's still the same problem.

Yep.

So I'm trying to think of something in the, in the recesses of my memory that was truly like, og written for screen that didn't come from something.

And like, I don't know what that is or what that would be.

The one that comes right off top of my head is like the Matrix.

The original Matrix.

Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was trying to say somewhat recently.

The Matrix.

Oh, yeah, Phenomenal movie.

Sure.

That's the last.

I mean, you won't.

You don't like this director as much as I do.

But some of the Christopher Nolan stuff, for better, for worse, like that's fair.

He one thing besides him doing the Dark Knight, which something was phenomenal outside of that, most of his stuff is it's written and didn't exist.

And you can say what you want about Tenet or gosh, what was it the Oppenheimer was pulled from A True Story and some of his other things.

But they're thought provoking and I think at least he's someone that comes to mind for me of something that's refreshing and different.

John Wick 4 John Wick 4.

John Wick was.

But it's not though.

Like, I don't know, it isn't.

It isn't like the Ochi John Wick though.

Like, to me that felt different because it opened up a world in the criminal story that didn't exist before.

But then they did three more of them because Hollywood likes to make money.

But the first one I was like, wow, I haven't.

I've seen something like this, but I also feel like I haven't so.

But it was a.

It was a fresh take on the revenge plot line.

But this is the problem with Christmas movies.

It's because we're trying.

You have to.

You have to hit the warm and fuzzies they have to have.

The message has been revolved around similar subject matter and.

And to make something that feels truly like refreshing and different is pretty hard to do.

I will say violent night that we reviewed, what, like a year ago, I quite like that that movie was different and fun and new and like a.

A good addition in my opinion, to the holiday classics.

What's hard is most of these new Christmas movies that come out and the same thing for most Christmas music.

Like, you're just so ingrained to what you grew up with in your childhood and it's really hard to get out of that box for the holidays.

For me, it's hard to make it into my repertoire.

Well, let me get in my ba humbug bag real quick because look, just like the rest of Christmas, the movie industry and the music industry have all just become a commercialized show.

Charlie Brown.

Look, man, if you can get on Netflix and there I how many shitty ass Hallmark movies can you make about Christmas?

And I think they can't make anymore.

And then every Year Netflix and Hallmark come out with at least a half a dozen to a dozen new ones.

And I'm like, how many times are you gonna rehash the same like the other day.

And I think I talked about this a couple Christmases ago when we were recording movies like the Lindsay Lohan has made a comeback because of shitty ass Hallmark movies and Christmas movies.

And she was in a Christmas movie a couple years ago that I got forced to watch due to one of the my bit la Casey's binges that I was in the living room for.

And it all they did was take the movie overboard, okay, and turn it into a Christmas movie where instead of falling off a boat, she falls down a ski hill that she shouldn't have been on and hits her head on a tree and can't remember who she is.

And I'm like, Jesus age.

Like they made this into a Christmas movie.

But it's all because people are obsessed with Christmas.

We love Christmas.

We get excited by Christmas.

To your point Match.

There's a lot of warm and fuzzies about Christmas.

So like how could we exploit Christmas?

And then I'm like, you don't even know what Christmas is about.

Like I, I love Christmas for what Christmas is.

I think that's why I like the movie we're talking about.

We're going to talk about next for next week is like, if you, you don't have to do anything fancy with a Christmas movie, just write something good that makes sense to Christmas and then don't like this.

It's just a money grab.

I'm sorry, I don't give a what anybody says.

Robert Smeck is some.

He was like, I love this book.

It's 32 pages.

I'm gonna make a movie because people will watch it and I'm gonna put Tom Hanks in it because that'll make even more people watch it.

Then it'll become a classic somehow with all my shitty ass animation and terrible writing and we'll just make it work.

I might have an aneurysm.

Sorry.

Commercialism and Christmas.

I hate it.

I'm with you.

The amount of Christmas movies where they just revolve it around the presents and things.

It's like, come on people, I can only watch so much of this crap.

And yeah, like, I hate this movie.

I think I picked this movie so I could hate on this movie because I hate this movie so much.

But I vow to never watch this movie again.

Ever.

Careful with that, Val.

Well, we've reviewed it, so we're not.

We can't watch it on here.

So I.

I feel pretty confident about that.

I can.

I can make that happen.

That's fair.

We are no repeat podcasts until one day when we review old.

We are old and gray in the hair.

And we're like, there ain't no more movies out here because Hollywood's trash.

That's like next week for jj.

Yeah.

Hey, I only have a streak of.

Black left, so Jay's just holding out of the patch for our listener that aren't on the podcast.

Check us out on YouTube to see JJ's continuing to grayness in his beard.

Yeah, it.

It rapidly is getting grayer and grayer.

It's good stuff.

I don't.

I have, like, edges of my mustache that are still brown, and then one patch of gray.

Brown that's rapidly going away.

I started to notice this little streak that's in the middle of the streak of brown.

I'm like, God damn it, Call me Santa Claus here.

Pretty soon, fat, portly, and gray.

Yeah.

Christmas movies.

And why does everybody gotta, like, fall in love and Christmas?

I mean, obviously not in this movie that we're reviewing, Polar Express, but, like, that's the other one that gets me about, like, the Netflix and the Hallmark is they're all like romantic comedies.

I'm like, oh, they're all.

Yeah, I hate it.

Taylor's.

Her has be lonely.

Yeah.

Her parents love the Hallmark stuff.

And we're literally.

There's the ones you just put on.

I swear it's.

I think it's a Paramount movie, not a Hallmark one.

Or what's the other?

Not Hallmark.

What's the other?

Like, big movie studio that has a TV show.

It's.

It's another.

It's not Hallmark.

It's something else.

I can't remember what it's called, but I swear they filmed it in the same exact spot.

It's another story about someone that has an inn that they're trying to throw a Christmas party in.

Some guy, he's been in the town, just like the other guy.

A girl comes home for something, and they end up, like, throwing the party.

I'm like, this is literally the same story.

This.

And I think they filmed it in the same place because I recognized the barn.

I was like, oh, my gosh.

Like, they're just literally repeating the same thing, and people eat it up.

I'm like, oh, yeah, what are we doing?

What are we doing?

As long as you already know how it's gonna go.

You're like, I know they're gonna fall in Love.

I know we're gonna see them kiss.

Like, what's.

What's the.

Why.

Why are we so captivated by this Christmas?

Dude, I don't understand it.

We watched the shitty one about an.

A castle in England or.

Or Scotland.

Scotland.

I don't remember what it's called, but.

It had Scottish Christmas.

Oh, you've seen it?

No.

Oh, I mean, it might have been.

I don't know.

That sounds about right.

I think I had some.

I think I had Castle in the name, though.

But like, it was like Brooke Shields and Carrie Hughes.

And I was like, wow, you're.

You know, your career is a dumpster fire at this point when this is the.

You're making.

But like, yeah, it's just like this grumpy old bastard that lives in a castle in Scotland that he can't keep up with anymore.

And this huge novel writer that gets canceled because of how she ends her most recent book has to take like a holiday to Scotland because she's like, got to get out of the public eye.

And then they.

I'm like, oh, my God, I could write this in my sleep.

I know exactly where this movie's going.

It was.

They're all, I hate it.

It goes right along with Polar Express.

It's movie.

Unless you're like, if my freak of a partner won't watch it.

Can't believe she bailed on you on that one.

When she's making you watch all this other crap, why you call her out?

Because it's.

Dude, you know Casey well enough to know why I don't call her out.

I like my life.

I like my penis attached.

What.

What is your penis called these days?

What's Charles's handle?

Oh, yeah, the Petridge Pepperidge Farm Wiener.

Wiener.

Yeah.

I gotta check, make sure he hasn't changed it again.

I guess changing his name like, friggin.

It's going out of style.

I.

You know what I find funny about this month?

Like, we.

We get off topic quite a bit.

Yeah, I mean, we.

We kind of.

We go sideways.

But Christmas movies have been pretty rough.

Like, not a lot to talk about.

Yeah.

Like, we've stretched some we for Christmas this year.

I'm hoping the next movie will fix that problem.

But we'll see.

There's just not a lot to go over here.

Let's rate this sucker.

All right, you're first.

Get out of this.

Whoa.

Wow.

Having.

This is the first time I've watched this movie in its entirety in a very long time.

Because I've seen bits and pieces of this, like when I was growing up and my dad would always have it on when he was on his exercise bike in the morning, I'd come out and make.

Why are you watching this?

Like, what are you doing?

I can't tell you.

Honestly, the last time I've seen this all the way through and I don't even know until this time if I have seen it all the way through until this last watch because it was so painful.

Man, we've seen some really terrible movies.

This is a really bad movie.

This movie is not something I.

It would really hurt to watch it again.

But I guess there's things out there that maybe.

I don't know.

The more I talk about it, this movie's so bad, I think in good conscience I have to give it.

I try to give it a 0.25.

I can't do that.

So I'll give it a 0.5.

I really want to give it a 0, but I know what a 0 is, and, man, it's so close to a 0, it's a 0.5.

That's funny.

I haven't seen Matt's in that torn in a long time.

All right, Alec, what do you got?

Not a lot to say about this movie.

Like Matthew was talking about, I don't think it's all that bad, but it's not something that I'm like, you know what?

I'm gonna sit down and watch the Polar Express.

So I'm gonna give it a one and a half.

Don't.

I mean, I.

I really enjoy.

We'll say enjoy the first half of the movie.

Alec, is your rating system broken?

You just said it wasn't that bad and you're giving it not that bad movie, a 1.5.

I don't understand you.

Yeah, it's 1.5.

Two and a half is average.

Not that bad.

One and a half.

I don't know.

I guess you just.

I never feel like you're the.

All right, my listeners, I'm a man of the people just know.

Oh.

Man, if this movie was black and white, we already know he would have bumped it up by a whole point.

So, like, just disregard him.

JJ's pretty reasonable, but, Alec, I just.

Just let's.

Let's move on.

One half.

I love it.

I'm gonna give it a one.

Look, there's no substance to this movie.

It was forced.

The only reason it's getting a one for me is because I'd still watch it over a lot of the Zero Point Fives and like the two zeros I've given over the 500 movies we.

Reviewed, so it's like I'd watch as well.

That moon movie.

What's that one you hate?

Oh, Moonfall.

Ah, not me.

I'd watch this before I watch Moonfall because the CGI and Moonfall's just as bad as this.

And at least this.

It's built in a world of fantasy versus trying to tell me that the earth would survive if the moon was two feet from hitting it.

Like, whatever.

Yeah, Moonfall, that movie.

But yeah, this movie's not good.

Like, it's.

There's so many other Christmas movies.

Like, good.

Like, good, decent Christmas movies.

Go watch any number of them.

Hell, go watch some of the shitty ones on Netflix because even those are better than this.

I mean, some are, some aren't.

Some are no Scottish castle.

There's many that are far.

I mean, I'd watch almost all the.

Over, like, any of the Hallmark ones over this, even though I know how they end because they're shorter for one, and at least they don't make.

Said enough.

You'd be talking about.

I should have just said this movie.

This movie sucks.

And last thing I'll say, that kid with the.

I.

I wish all the prizes I got.

You know what you should have gotten Cole, you dick.

Shut up.

Oh, God.

Matt Matson feels a certain kind of way about this movie.

I don't like it.

It's a one.

I'll never watch it again.

This is the first time I've ever watched it all the way through, and I wish I could go back and unwatch it all the way through, but there it is.

Yeah, Christmas week four is down.

I don't think we've really.

We've done any movies that we've been nice to this month.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Tune in next week because I do think we might like that movie.

Right?

That's what.

That's what we get for.

That's what happens when freaking JJ's Pepperidge Farm wiener or whatever picks extra large YouTube large Pepperidge Farm chuckleheads picks instead of mine.

Because if we picked my two, we'd have been laughing our asses off, having a good time rating movies higher.

But no, gotta pick you Chuckle Fox movies that you both picked up.

At least one because you hate it.

Yes.

That'S how this podcast goes.

Yeah, fair enough.

That's a new one.

You put that on a T shirt?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, those Chuckle.

Love it.

All right, tell everybody where they can find us.

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And if you don't like seeing YouTube, there's plenty of extra content on Patreon where you can join our lovely patrons Rich and mel Brooks and JJ's Extra Large Pepperidge Farm wiener for some behind the scenes context.

Some extra episodes.

Show me your genitals.

That went way off into left field.

JJ literally has an extra large Pepperidge.

Farm wiener in his fridge genitalia.

Yeah.

What's that?

Other movie comments like show me a weed or show me a wiener or what's that?

There's like a famous movie quote I can't remember.

I think that's.

I know you're talking about.

No.

So when is it In a funny voice.

Kick it back to jj.

I guess what movie that's in because I'll probably find some stuff I shouldn't probably JJ's Pepperidge Farm on there.

Can always count on Matt for a strangely inappropriate comment.

I like it.

With that as always.

We appreciate you turning in, tuning in.

We'll catch you on the next one.

Yeah.

Go to sleep after this one.

Hasta la vista, baby.

The magic.