"I think that any kind of engagement with transness and Jewishness feels exciting to me...It actually feels like not just a trans practice, but actually quite a queer practice, of not seeing yourself reflected in the world around you, and so needing to look deeply, creatively at that world to interpret what you're seeing as queer."

-Nicki Green

As part of our ongoing series on the art exhibit A Fence Around The Torah we're joined by Nicki Green for a conversation on ceramics, trans and queer mikveh, or water immersion, rituals, and the symbolic meanings of mushrooms and fermentation.

Nicki Green is a transdisciplinary artist working primarily in clay. Her sculptures, ritual objects and various flat works explore topics of history preservation, conceptual ornamentation, and the aesthetics of otherness. Green lives and works in the San Francisco Bay Area but is currently a resident artist at Cal State Long Beach.

Liora Ostroff is Curator-in-Residence at the Jewish Museum of Maryland, where she curated A Fence Around The Torah. She's a painter whose work explores themes like queerness, Jewishness, violence, and the idiosyncrasies of life in Baltimore.