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Hey mama.
Trish:Welcome back to the show.
Trish:Today's episode is a must Listen.
Trish:If you've ever looked in the mirror during pregnancy or postpartum and thought.
Trish:I don't look like me anymore.
Trish:I don't feel like me anymore.
Trish:Whether you're navigating swollen ankles, unpredictable energy, or that mental load that comes with pregnancy.
Trish:This conversation is your reminder that you don't have to sacrifice strength, identity, or even confidence just because your body is changing for that little bitty human.
Trish:I'm sitting down with Nicole Scheitlin, a mom of three, and the powerhouse.
Trish:Behind Strong Mama Wellness.
Trish:She's a 12 year exercise physiologist and certified pre and postnatal fitness specialist who is helping you ditch your fear, move with confidence and reclaim your strength both physically and emotionally.
Trish:We're talking about what it really looks like to stay active during pregnancy, and we are busting myths.
Trish:Over here, even myths that I thought were true.
Trish:So whether you're currently expecting trying to conceive, or just trying to feel like yourself again after baby, listen to this and make sure you hit subscribe and leave us a review.
Trish:Good morning, Nicole, and welcome to the Birth Experience.
Trish:I'm so excited that you're here.
Trish:I got to record with you last week on your podcast.
Trish:I'm excited about that as well.
Trish:I would love for you to tell everyone just about you and your story and how you ended up doing what you're doing.
Nicole:Hey, Trish, first off, thank you so much for having me on today.
Nicole:I'm so excited to talk to your listeners about.
Nicole:Exercise in pregnancy, strength training, all the things.
Nicole:But yes, fantastic conversation we had last week.
Nicole:A little bit about me.
Nicole:So my name's Nicole Scheitlin.
Nicole:I am a pregnancy and postpartum fitness specialist.
Nicole:I have been in the fitness space for a little over a decade now.
Nicole:I.
Nicole:Started off pretty traditionally in the fitness field with a degree in exercise science.
Nicole:Kind of followed that path into personal training, group fitness instruction, corporate wellness management, all of those things.
Nicole:And so naturally when I got pregnant with my first child, I have three children now.
Nicole:When I got pregnant with my first, which was a little over five years ago now.
Nicole:I naturally thought, it'll be easy for me to exercise in pregnancy, you know, I'll make a couple modifications.
Nicole:This will, it's no big deal.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:I'm an expert.
Nicole:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Nicole:And su, sure enough, I found out that it was not easy.
Nicole:There was not much helpful information for moms or soon to be moms on how to.
Nicole:Move their body safely, and how to support their body in the changes that were happening.
Nicole:So of course, I wanted to have a, a healthy pregnancy.
Nicole:I wanted to support my body through this.
Nicole:But I, I didn't know how, and I was like, wow, if I'm getting, you know, very general vague advice from my provider and all the conflicting information online, and I'm a fitness professional who, doesn't know what is going on, like what to do, I.
Nicole:Know that other women don't as well.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:And so that led me down the rabbit hole of continuing my education, getting certified in pregnancy and postpartum fitness and just, trying to support myself through the rest of my pregnancy.
Nicole:And that was super helpful to gain that education.
Nicole:And there were so many.
Nicole:Points along that journey that I was like, wow, more women just really need to know this because it's not all about having a bump only pregnancy.
Nicole:It's not about trying to gain minimal weight in pregnancy.
Nicole:You know, those things are fine, but how can we.
Nicole:Really support the body as it grows, as it changes.
Nicole:How can we support it to have a more efficient birth and recovery?
Nicole:So that's just a little bit about my journey and how I came to where I'm at today with coaching women through pregnancy and postpartum in a way that moves their body in a safe, effective way.
Trish:I, I love that you settle that because one of the things that I wrote down is safely exercising without confusion or fear of harm because I know for myself, because I'm not an expert, and I love that you said you still were like a little bit confused too as an expert in exercise, but not in antenatal or prenatal or postpartum.
Trish:Exercising.
Trish:So I would say for those of you guys listening that I am not someone who works out, I mean, I, I move, right?
Trish:But I'm not like, let me get my gear on and go to the gym.
Trish:My husband is, he spends like two hours a day in a gym and that to me sounds like horrific.
Trish:I don't wanna do that, but I know that I have a lot of friends and listeners and students and members who love to work out.
Trish:And then they get really worried because there's a lot of, of myths, I would say.
Trish:Would you say there's a lot of myths about working out during pregnancy?
Trish:Oh yeah.
Trish:So that's what I wanna bust.
Trish:Let's bust some myths, like, you know, you probably know the bigger ones than I do, but what do you think are some of the top fitness myths that hold mama's back from movement during pregnancy?
Nicole:Yeah, there are a lot of different myths.
Nicole:I'd say a good place to start would be for those that do exercise and that wanna continue to exercise.
Nicole:The big myth is weightlifting and should you, weightlift and how much is safe, you know, you.
Nicole:Mm-hmm.
Nicole:A big myth is you can't lift over a certain number and some doctors will say 20 pounds.
Nicole:Some will say 25 pounds.
Nicole:That's a pretty common myth and.
Nicole:It's also pretty subjective to the individual, whereas that, you know, that limit on the amount of weight you can lift might be, , advisable for somebody with a complication or who's never lifted before.
Nicole:But it may totally not apply to somebody who is experienced in weight training and strength training and fitness in general.
Nicole:So I think, yeah, that's probably one of the top myths that I hear from women who.
Nicole:Want to continue exercising and have experience is, you know, the, the, the myth on how heavy to lift.
Trish:So, I love that you said it depends on the person, because this is one of my biggest soap boxes that I stand on, is that why are we making these general things for all pregnant women?
Trish:Mm-hmm.
Trish:When.
Trish:We're all individual and you know, one of the things that hit hard for me is I was 42 and I had Grayson, but I was way healthier than most of my 20-year-old patients that I was seeing in the South especially.
Trish:but yet I had all these restrictions and rules that they didn't have.
Trish:So I love that you're saying that 'cause someone like me who's not lifting weights on the regular and I get pregnant, I probably shouldn't go straight to 25 pounds.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:And that kind of brings me to another myth too.
Nicole:Not to skip around, but it kind of goes hand in hand.
Nicole:But for those that don't exercise regularly, but want to start, a big myth is that you can't start something new in pregnancy now.
Nicole:Oh, I see this
Trish:before.
Nicole:Yeah.
Trish:I've, I've actually said that because that's what I learned.
Trish:Yes.
Trish:I'm, I'm mind blown right now.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:I'm so sorry to everyone.
Trish:Okay.
Trish:Tell us why that's a myth and like, why do you feel like that's perpetuated?
Nicole:Well, there is nuance to it, just like everything, of course.
Nicole:But like you had said, for somebody who isn't used to strength training on the regular, then jumping right to something.
Nicole:You know, heavier or more extreme, I wouldn't tell somebody to just take up a running routine or jump into CrossFit or even like lift 25 pounds first.
Nicole:You can start to exercise though.
Nicole:Mm-hmm.
Nicole:It just needs to be, you know, a little more conservative at first, and then you can definitely build on that foundation.
Nicole:But I think the main point is that you're not jumping into something that's totally gonna be.
Nicole:A big difference for your body than what you're used to.
Nicole:It's just a general, like slow build, I would say.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:So yeah, that's Why is that perpetuated?
Nicole:That's a great question.
Nicole:I think that because we've heard
Trish:it from
Nicole:everybody and then we just keep saying it.
Nicole:Without any research, I guess, I guess.
Nicole:Yeah, I guess.
Nicole:'cause the American co acog.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:American College of Obstetrics Gynecology.
Nicole:They, they do say that you can, start an exercise routine in pregnancy.
Nicole:You just suggest to keep it moderate.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:I feel like I'm gonna post this today.
Trish:There you go.
Trish:I love it.
Trish:Inspiration.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:Like, this is why I. Okay, so I've had this, I have a coaching group with other motherhood experts that, you know, business owners that market to moms.
Trish:And we were having a conversation because we really get into this, like people saying blanket things and people, you know, even in the hospital, nurses doing things 'cause it's policy.
Trish:But yet when you really dig, it's not policy.
Trish:It all roots back to one nurse who trained all someone who trained someone who trained someone.
Trish:So when I think of this myth.
Trish:It started somewhere where someone just decided that was it someone in power?
Trish:Mm-hmm.
Trish:Obviously, and then trained someone else who then trained and it just spread like a ripple.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:I see a lot of outdated advice that just never got updated.
Nicole:It's almost as if like people got into the same pattern of saying this advice and they passed it down and it got passed down, just as you said.
Nicole:So I don't know if there's any rhyme or reason other than it's what people know.
Nicole:To be true.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Or what they knew to be true and just never did the digging around it.
Nicole:But yeah, it's perfectly okay.
Nicole:Well then
Trish:you have someone with like me with authority who says it with certainty.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:And then they think it's true.
Trish:No, that's okay.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:I mean it's, it's, do you know what I'm saying?
Trish:Like obviously exercise is not my realm disclaimer and everybody knows that, so hopefully they are digging deeper with an expert in antenatal exercise.
Trish:Yes.
Trish:But when that, that is, you know how some things do get.
Nicole:Yeah, and that's, that's what I always like to say too, because we rely on our provider for so much and we want to naturally go to them for all of our questions, every single question, but not everything is always within their scope.
Nicole:Specifically, like very specific exercise questions.
Nicole:So like a lot of the blanket statements that we're given.
Nicole:Around exercise is keep doing what you've been doing.
Nicole:Don't start something new.
Nicole:Don't lift over 25 pounds.
Nicole:Don't get your heart rate above a certain amount.
Nicole:And so lots of these very vague statements that are just easy to kind of rattle off.
Nicole:So, yeah, I always encourage people to kind of dig a little bit deeper, and get some specific guidance from someone within in that scope.
Nicole:Someone who actually knows what they're talking about,
Trish:is what she's saying.
Nicole:Yeah.
Trish:Which is totally fine.
Trish:Like I am so about like being like, this is my zone of genius.
Trish:That is not, that is her Go to her.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:So tell us.
Trish:Tell us more.
Trish:Tell us more.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:Like what are some other outdated pieces of advice that maybe we wouldn't even consider a myth, but it's just like flat out people are saying wrong.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:Another
Nicole:one.
Nicole:So I've already stated the weight one, that is no longer true.
Nicole:Another one that's been proven wrong is.
Nicole:The myth of don't get your heart rate above 140 beats per minute.
Nicole:So I'm literally blown away right now, Nicole.
Nicole:It's funny because when I'm like, you learn something new every day.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:It's funny 'cause I feel like, you know, these things, at least within my space 'cause I, you know, follow a lot of other fitness professionals in this space and so we're always myth busting these same things.
Nicole:But there's still, they're still being said, right?
Nicole:140 beats per minute.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Is a common one.
Nicole:And so if anybody wears like a Garmin or an Apple Watch or something that tracks their heart rate.
Nicole:They're trying to be careful about not getting it too high, quote unquote, too high.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:Um, and
Trish:again, well we also disclaimer that if you have some sort of high risk diagnosis or something cardiac, cardiac going on, that is a different story.
Trish:Yes.
Nicole:Yes.
Nicole:100%. So if you have, I always say if you have specific limitations or complications that mm-hmm.
Nicole:Would.
Nicole:Require certain limitations like this, then absolutely like take that into account.
Nicole:A lot of these things are just for normal, like healthy, uncomplicated pregnancies that these kind of statements apply to a little bit more, right?
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Okay,
Trish:so tell us more about that.
Nicole:They can, so with the 140 beats per minute.
Nicole:Kind of guideline the outdated advice there.
Nicole:It's very similar to being nuanced as is the don't lift over 25 pounds myth, because some people like 140 beats per minute might feel really hard, like that might feel.
Nicole:It's very challenging to get your heart rate up that high.
Nicole:Others who are experienced runners or who have or have a higher cardiac capacity
Trish:mm-hmm.
Nicole:Will reach 140 beats per minute and go beyond that and still feel like it's a breeze.
Nicole:And so there is no research that states that there is any heart.
Nicole:There will be any harm done to you or the baby when you get your heart rate above that.
Nicole:So it's really just not, it's not a good rule anymore.
Nicole:And what we're advising now is just following more of an RPE scale rate of perceived exertion because it's so subjective to each individual.
Nicole:So kind of what you're gonna wanna do instead is when you're exercising, kind of check in with yourself and rate your.
Nicole:Exertion level, your perceived exertion of the workout, how hard it is on a scale of one to 10, 10 being maxed out, flat out laying on the floor.
Nicole:So tired, done.
Nicole:One being just kind of standing in place.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:And so what I always like to say to aim for, for like an easier workout is like a four to five.
Nicole:And for something that's maybe more challenging, like six, seven, potentially eight, but that's kind of getting.
Nicole:A little, getting a little high.
Nicole:Not in terms of safety, but we just wanna, we wanna measure exertion, we don't wanna fully exhaust ourself.
Nicole:It's okay to challenge ourselves, but we wanna leave some energy in the tank there for sure.
Trish:Okay.
Trish:I'm glad you explained that 'cause I was about to ask you to explain that.
Trish:So are there any other myths that you feel are worth.
Trish:Mentioning or that those of you in the, you know, prenatal, postpartum fitness space are busting a lot or you see that other people like me are saying, but aren't necessarily right.
Nicole:Yes.
Nicole:I have a couple more.
Nicole:There's so many that,
Trish:okay, come on, bring at me, girl.
Nicole:So the next two are the two that I'm thinking of are both core related.
Nicole:The first one is that it's a myth that you can't do core work in pregnancy.
Nicole:Now this one is starting to become a little more normalized, which is great.
Nicole:You can do and should do core work.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:I
Trish:don't feel like I've ever said that one.
Trish:Oh, that's good.
Nicole:Yeah, that's good.
Nicole:Yeah, I still hear people asking about it though.
Nicole:'Cause they're worried about safety and things like that.
Nicole:And what I like to think about with this is we, we wanna still be doing core work because it is supporting our posture.
Nicole:It is supporting our pelvic floor.
Nicole:It is.
Nicole:You know, minimizing aches and pains that we could potentially get during pregnancy.
Nicole:So we do wanna have a stable foundation there, right?
Nicole:But it's just gonna look different.
Nicole:It's not gonna be your traditional planks and sit ups and crunches and Russian twists.
Nicole:Like our traditional AB moves are gonna be transitioning to either standing or on all fours, like a quaded position, just lower pressure, lower pressure exercises that aren't going to increase the.
Trish:You might wanna define Quaded.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:Quaded would be for those of us who are not in your field.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Quaded is hands and knees.
Nicole:So if you were to just be on the floor on your hands and knees, that would be a quaded position.
Nicole:So if you can think of like a bear crawl, okay.
Nicole:Type position.
Nicole:You're in a tabletop.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:So hopefully that is a good,
Trish:good enough visual.
Trish:Yeah, I figured, I figured what that was, but I want, you know, let's just acknowledge the fact that pregnancy brain is for reals.
Trish:Yes.
Trish:And so I wanted to make sure we're super clear there.
Nicole:Yeah, absolutely.
Nicole:Okay, so go.
Nicole:Go on.
Nicole:Sorry.
Nicole:That's okay.
Nicole:Yeah, so just shifting our positioning a little bit, because those traditional AB exercises that we are used to doing pre-pregnancy can tend to create a lot of pressure inside our core, and there's already pressure in there because the baby is growing and developing and pushing pressure out on our abs.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:And also pushing pressure down on our pelvic floor.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:So when we do exercises that increase pressure more, we increase the risk of a more severe diastasis recti.
Nicole:So we do want to just shift a little bit in the way that we do it, but it's definitely not off the table to do core work and pregnancy.
Trish:Okay.
Trish:And explain diastasis recti.
Nicole:Yeah, that was gonna be my second.
Nicole:Oh, okay.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:My next myth, so I'll go into that for sure.
Nicole:So diastasis recti, for anyone who isn't familiar with it, is the abdominal separation that happens in pregnancy.
Nicole:And it's not something where your abs are splitting or anything like that.
Nicole:It's essentially the connective tissue between your six pack abs, between your rectus abdominis.
Nicole:Just pulls apart as the baby grows.
Nicole:So it's very normal, very natural.
Nicole:It is thinning, it is weakening, and it's just allowing your body to expand for babies.
Nicole:So it's a really normal, natural thing.
Nicole:And diastasis recti.
Nicole:So I see a lot of reels on Instagram that will say like, do this exercise and prevent diastasis recti, like prevent diastasis recti, all these things.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:And we're kind of putting the fear of life into these soon to be moms that their abs are gonna be split apart and all these things.
Nicole:But you, the truth is that.
Nicole:It's in 100% of pregnancies by the end.
Nicole:That is research proven.
Nicole:We all have diastasis recti.
Nicole:We can influence the severity of it, though.
Nicole:That's where our core work comes in in pregnancy, just influencing the, and hopefully decreasing the risk of a severe gap after pregnancy.
Nicole:But we will have diastasis recti, which is considered a about a two finger gap postpartum.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:Yeah.
Trish:All right.
Trish:So any more about that or any other myths that you're like, I, we've got to, we've got to bust right now.
Nicole:I think those are the main ones.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:I'd say we, we've covered, okay.
Nicole:Covered the good ones for sure.
Nicole:Okay, good.
Trish:So the other thing that I wanted, you said in the beginning, you said it's not just about having a perfect body.
Trish:It's not just having a belly only pregnancy.
Trish:What, what do you think it really like?
Trish:Can we go a little bit deeper in what it really is about and then mm-hmm.
Trish:We'll let everyone know where they can find you to learn more of these truths.
Nicole:Yeah, absolutely.
Nicole:I'm super passionate about this because, you know, coming from the fitness world, it's, it can be very diet culturey, which.
Nicole:It doesn't really serve us in pregnancy 'cause our body changes are kind of beyond our control to a certain level, Uhhuh.
Nicole:And so, coming from the fitness space, it was my goal in pregnancy to stay strong, stay healthy.
Nicole:But then when I'd search Pinterest for like pregnancy safe workouts, I'd, I'd get these, you know.
Nicole:These articles on having a bump only pregnancy and a very aesthetic like things, and we can't spot train.
Nicole:It's just scientifically proven.
Nicole:We cannot spot train.
Nicole:The way the shape your body takes on a pregnancy is really gonna be genetic.
Nicole:Genetically influenced.
Nicole:And so there's a kind of a pressure relief there that we kind of a pressure relief that we can't control, that, what we can control is the way that we move and support our body in the changes that are happening.
Nicole:So to kind of go a little deeper into that, what I started to notice in myself in that first pregnancy, and of course what I work on with clients as well, is really training for the demands that are going to be placed on your body, both in pregnancy.
Nicole:So in pregnancy, you've got, of course, the center of gravity shift, right?
Nicole:You're carrying extra weight.
Nicole:That's putting pressure on your joints, your pelvic floor, your pelvis.
Nicole:Along with that often comes aches and pains.
Nicole:So a lot of the exercise that I do with my clients, a lot of things that I recommend.
Nicole:Help support your body and stabilize so we can prevent aches and pains.
Nicole:You can go on living your life.
Nicole:You can go on picking up your, your toddler while you're pregnant.
Nicole:You can go on hikes with your family.
Nicole:You can just continue to enjoy life without feeling so debilitated, you know?
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:So it's really getting intentional and strategic about that, and that carries into birth too.
Nicole:A lot of the work that I do also is teaching clients effective.
Nicole:Pushing positions and we're doing endurance training that mimics labor contractions.
Nicole:Where we're, doing some interval training that is going to be really hardworking periods and then shifting into relaxing and breathing.
Nicole:And so just getting intentional about the way we move our body and how we show up to our workouts that we're not just randomly doing random modifications and to just keep it safe, so to speak.
Nicole:That is important, but it's also so important to just be intentional and.
Nicole:Move your body in a way that's going to really serve you and help you live and move the way that you wanna do.
Trish:All right, so the last thing that I would love for you to address, because I see this in my mama membership a lot, is the women who feel guilty that they're not doing more during pregnancy.
Trish:What are some easy.
Trish:Things I tell them, just move.
Trish:Just get some movement and go for a walk.
Trish:Do something simple.
Trish:But what would you say?
Trish:And tell them what you have to offer as well?
Trish:'cause they know you have some options.
Trish:I would assume you have some options for those of those of us like me, who are not like this fitness person.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Yeah, absolutely.
Nicole:So just, as you said, Trish, I would recommend keeping it very simple, especially if you're, you know, in the throes of the first trimester or late pregnancy, and it's just a grind to get that movement in.
Nicole:Mm-hmm.
Nicole:I would.
Nicole:Do what feels good.
Nicole:Like just be intuitive with your body.
Nicole:If a walk feels good that day, try and start with 10 minutes.
Nicole:If you know, it feels like you could get some stretches in, like your back is feeling tight, your legs are feeling tight, you know, try and do some stretching.
Nicole:Like I feel like objects at state that are in motion, stay in motion.
Nicole:So once you kind of get.
Nicole:The feel good feelings from little doses of movement.
Nicole:Mm-hmm.
Nicole:It can influence more movement, but start so, so simple.
Nicole:I, yeah, I wouldn't, even if you're really struggling, I wouldn't even start with thinking about strength training.
Nicole:I would just get consistent with things that feel good and fuel you and bring you energy, and then see where you can add from there.
Nicole:But that's exactly where it would start.
Nicole:In terms of offerings, so I do work with clients one-on-one, where I help them come up with a customized program that fits their life, fits their goals, fits how their pregnancy is currently going.
Nicole:And so it's just fully customized to you.
Nicole:I hold you accountable, and so it's a really good.
Nicole:Way to kind of have your hand held through the process.
Nicole:Not in a, like mm-hmm.
Nicole:Breathing down your neck way, but in a way that is, yeah.
Nicole:Gentle accountability.
Nicole:Just supportive, helping you to, you know, get moving in a way that helps you feel really good.
Nicole:And then, I also have a program that's self-paced.
Nicole:You do it yourself.
Nicole:It's called Empowered Pregnancy, and that one is a little bit more intermediate level.
Nicole:So one-on-one is for any level.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:But Empowered pregnancy is a little more intermediate level.
Nicole:I do recommend some strength training experience, but that one will give you four workouts per week, fully guided.
Nicole:It just, it's plug and play.
Nicole:So if you're just wanting that.
Nicole:Straight up instruction.
Nicole:Tell me what to do.
Nicole:It's there.
Nicole:Freedom.
Nicole:Yeah, exactly.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Yeah.
Trish:That's, that's how I that I like that.
Trish:Yeah.
Trish:That's how I roll.
Trish:So I wanted to ask you one more question 'cause it literally just popped into my head.
Trish:Mm-hmm.
Trish:What about like weighted vests or something like that to add in?
Trish:If someone really is like, I don't wanna the gym, I don't wanna do strike training, is that something that they can do during pregnancy?
Nicole:Yeah, probably.
Nicole:Or would you not recommend that?
Nicole:Yeah, I would say it depends on how, see, I had to throw
Trish:in that weird question.
Nicole:No, it's good.
Nicole:Other people are probably thinking it.
Nicole:, So with that, it just depends on how it straps on.
Nicole:I probably wouldn't recommend a whole bunch of pressure on your belly, just depending on, where that weighted vest is placed.
Nicole:If it is, yeah.
Nicole:So usually
Trish:it, the vest part is on the back with the weights and it's like evenly over the shoulders.
Nicole:Mm-hmm.
Nicole:So I don't think it would hit that the be, yeah, that would be fine.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Just like anything form matters.
Nicole:So if you're doing squats in that, you still wanna have good squat form.
Nicole:If you're walking with that, that's great.
Nicole:Yeah, I wouldn't say that that is, you know, I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with a weighted vest at all.
Nicole:So yeah, if you had weight, I wouldn't give you weight as much benefit.
Nicole:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Trish:Well thank you so much for coming today and you guys can all find Nicole over on Instagram and you can check out the show notes.
Trish:We'll have some links for some information and we just, I'm so like blown away by this conversation.
Trish:I'm super excited about it.
Trish:I love when I learned something new in the perinatal space because it seems like I don't typically, 'cause I've been in it for so long, but I love that you schooled me today, so thank you.
Nicole:Oh good.
Nicole:I love to hear that.
Nicole:I could teach you something 'cause I learned so much from your episode too.
Trish:Okay ladies, we will see you guys again next Friday.
Trish:I hope you enjoyed this episode where we broke down some myths that even Labor Nurse Mama has been speaking.
Trish:So we are.
Trish:Definitely all about being updated and helping you guys know what you can actually do or not do during pregnancy so you can make the best choices for you.
Trish:Alright, hit subscribe, leave a review and I'll see you again next Friday.
Trish:Bye for now.
Trish:Alright, let me.
