An insightful chat with a former director of the Met Opera who has since turned her skills and expertise to training public speaking skills. When you realise that Elizabeth has directed great opera stars like Luciano Pavarotti and Placido Domingo, you know that she's someone worth listening to.

We had a lot of fun chatting together and I was intrigued to find out what the similarities and differences were between directing an opera and training people in public speaking. I love some of the distinctions and insights Elizabeth shares and I am sure you will too. ABC, always be learning. You will learn a lot from this amazing expert.

You can find out more about Elizabeth on her website ElizabethBachman.com Please take the assessment. I did and it has really helped me to see what I need to focus on, with some guidance from Elizabeth herself.

I highly recommend Elizabeth's podcast Speakers Who Get Results where you can even find me coming up as a guest.

The book Elizabeth recommends is called The Disruption Mindset by Charlene Li

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