In this episode of Passport To Wealth™, Arielle Tucker, EA, CFP, is joined by Alex McGowin, CPA, an international tax expert with deep experience advising US expats and Americans investing abroad. Together, they break down the most common tax traps US citizens face when purchasing property in countries like Costa Rica, Panama, and across Latin America.
Alex explains why foreign LLCs rarely work the way Americans expect, how missed elections can turn capital gains into ordinary income, and why many expats unknowingly create controlled foreign corporations that lead to compliance headaches and unnecessary taxes. They also discuss rental properties, Airbnb income, personal use rules, and what happens when investors wait too long to get proper advice.
If you are considering buying property abroad or already own foreign real estate, this episode will help you understand the hidden risks, planning opportunities, and why getting advice on the front end can protect your long term wealth.
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Welcome back to Passport to Wealth.
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:My name is Arielle Tucker.
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:I'm an EA and CFP.
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:And today I am joined with Alex McGowan, who is a CPA and an international tax expert with
deep experience advising US expats, non-residents, and Americans investing abroad.
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:Alex, like me, began his career at PwC, though different offices.
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:You were in Houston.
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:I was in Zurich.
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:And then you also did a lot of cross-border work at Grant Thornton.
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:And now you have your own firm, McGowan Tax LLC, where you help clients navigate US tax
compliance, foreign investment structures, and real estate purchases throughout Central
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:and South America, including countries like Costa Rica, where you're currently sitting,
and Panama as well.
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:So I'm really excited to talk to you because you do a bunch of stuff that I do not do at
all, so I can't wait to learn from you today.
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:And I think it's really cool to just mention that you used to actually teach.
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:em
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:at the University of Mobile, sorry about that.
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:um so you are an educator first, and I think I always love finding those uh cross-border
professionals who are educators first.
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:So we've got a lot to talk about today, a lot to learn about buying property abroad and
some of those uh common traps and pitfalls.
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:So we'll just get right into it today, Alex.
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:Okay, awesome.
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:So tell me a little bit more.
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:about your, like how did you become a specialist in international taxation and especially
highlighting your kind of experience in foreign real estate structures?
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:That sounds so intimidating by the way, foreign real estate structures.
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:Tell me, like what does that even mean?
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:Yeah, mean, yeah, I'll give you the relatively short version.
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:You know, I mean, I did a master's in tax in Alabama and I just kind of liked the
international course that I took.
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:And then I got a job with PWC and they were like, you can choose what group you want to be
in.
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:And was like, I have no idea what group I want to be in.
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:And then I saw there was a group called the International Assignment Service, which isn't
even called that anymore, but that was like the expat group.
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:I was like, this sounds pretty cool.
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:I really had no...
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:the specific reason for liking it.
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:So I went into that group.
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:So we did expat work and things like that.
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:And then I just really, I really enjoyed the international stuff and stuck with it.
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:And then went to Grant Thornton and did the international thing more at a corporate scale.
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:But, you know, I mean, I guess what I kind of found is I always wanted to have my own
firm.
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:That was really the goal from the beginning.
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:And I was just kind of trying to get the experiences I needed to to feel competent enough
to do it.
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:You know, but but I kind of see what I do is like the chicken salad chick of tax tax
preparing or tax work just because like it's so hard to know everything.
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:And so I just said, you know, I'm not that smart at the end of the day.
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:I just figured, all right, I'm going to take this
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:international tax thing and I'm just going to do that and get good at that, you know?
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:And so that's what I did and really, and over time, like what I'm trying to do now is
really narrow it down even more to like geographically uh working.
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:I'm working with lot of people in Latin America now like you said, but yeah and
specifically that includes the real estate side.
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:So what that means just like a lot of the work that I'm doing on the real estate side is
US people moving to Latin America.
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:So like you said, I'm in Costa Rica right now.
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:I have a lot of clients in Guadalajara, is like the Pacific beach part of Costa Rica, but
people all over this country.
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:know, they just invest in rental real estate here as a second home.
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:or they move down here and purchase real estate.
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:there's, what I've found is there's just a lot of gotchas and things that really aren't
that tricky.
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:Like some of the gotcha pieces really aren't that tricky.
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:It's just people don't know them.
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:And then there's also, there's other things we can do.
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:You know, the next step is trying to find ways to save taxes and do things correctly.
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:yeah, that's a little bit of the background of how I got here, I guess.
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:that's so, I I tell my clients this all the time.
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:I always say, you know, we work with really smart people, right?
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:And you're really good at what you do, and you do that all day, every day.
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:And I just happen to do this one little thing all day, every day, think about it, read
about it, write about it.
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:So I'm really good at this.
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:And when I look for experts that we refer out to, I look for those truly specialized
experts who are specialized in, you know, a certain tax law,
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:maybe certain countries within tax law.
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:Because even when we're talking about just like taxes, right, we've got corporate taxes
and personal taxes, and then we talk about cross border or international taxation, right,
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:that is like a tiny sliver of taxes.
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:And then you layer on country specific considerations, there's a lot of ways to niche
down.
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:And I think you summarize it so perfectly, like there are so many gotchas, like in the
international tax space,
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:space, where when you're going out to chat GPT or you're reading forums or you're thinking
about buying real estate abroad, you don't even know the questions to ask, right?
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:You could be asking really good questions and completely missing, you know, the elephant
in the room, right, so to speak.
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:I mean, goal is to provide as much value as I can to my clients, right?
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:And the more I can specialize in what I'm doing, the more value I can add.
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:That's what I feel like.
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:And right when I started, I'm in a fortunate position now to where I have been able to
narrow things down.
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:just from a client perspective.
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:But of course, like right when I started my firm in like 2019, I really had to take
everything that was international related.
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:Because I mean, of course I have clients all over the world.
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:I don't just do things in Costa Rica, because I can do US tax preparation for
international things.
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:I mean, the US tax law is the same, but when I have clients in Mexico or...
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:or Costa Rica or Panama, I understand those laws better.
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:not that I'm not that I like do Costa Rican taxes, but I know the process and I can put
you in touch with people to get residency in these countries to, you know, talk to people
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:about importing your vehicles to these countries or real estate agents and things like
that.
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:So, you know, like you said, and you kind of you do the same thing in Switzerland.
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:We've talked before about like the work you do.
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:I you kind of try to focus on your area because you understand the processes and can put
people in touch
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:Like, I feel like I can provide more value ah to clients the more I can, like, focus in on
what I'm doing, you know?
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:And that's the goal at the end.
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:And I think what I've realized in this space and you've also realized this is, you know,
your networks that you build are so valuable so that when the client comes to you, calls
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:you and they're moving there, they've got their vehicle to import, they're looking for
certain types of properties, whatever, you have the Rolodex of people that you've already
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:vetted, that you already are working with, you know are good and are going to provide a
great service even if they don't do exactly what you're doing, right?
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:And so I see so much value
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:because it's just like shortcuts.
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:when you have, you you don't have a lot of time, shortcuts are awesome to just get to the
right people and not get scammed.
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:Because unfortunately, what I'm seeing right now is all these kind of pop-up scams in the
cross-border space because they're seeing, wow, 30 % of Americans are looking to move
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:How can we sell them a product that they don't need or a service that they don't need or
want, but they don't even know what they're asking for and we're just really...
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:you in the door, but then that's where the service ends, you know, or at least an in-depth
service, you know?
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:Yeah, and I mean, like I have, like, for example, I have clients in Hungary that have the
same thing, but like, I don't know anybody in Hungary.
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:So like, I can do your US tax return, but that's kind of where my service ends there.
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:Whereas, as I focus more on specific places and specific types of transactions, you know,
I can provide more value.
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:One of those is real estate where I help people structure the real estate transactions and
comply.
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:And the other one is more business.
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:I mean, I'd say the two things I'm focusing on are real estate transactions with people
and US people with international businesses.
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:So that's either an expat with a US business or a foreign business or somebody in the US
with foreign subsidiaries generally in Latin America as well.
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:It kind of ties into the real estate because it involves foreign business structuring, oh
which is where the real estate pieces comes in, which is different in Latin America than
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:And I can explain why.
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:Yeah, can you?
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:Because I'm like, tell me, tell me more.
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:When do people come to you?
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:Are they coming to you to file the first tax return?
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:Hey, I now own this property in Costa Rica or Latin America.
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:Or are they coming to you, they know to come to you, and they're saying, I'm thinking
about buying this property.
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:What are the next steps?
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:When are you engaging with them?
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:I think that's where Costa Rica has been a little different than how I engage with my
other clients and that, you know, the clients I have that are in the UK or France or
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:something, and I'm going to stereotype here, but it is what it is.
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:They, I feel like a lot of times they're a little bit more sophisticated investors.
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:Like if there's somebody going to the UK or somewhere like that, there there's other
professionals there and there's other people there that are telling them about us taxes.
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:In my experience, the people investing are moving in Panama or
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:Costa Rica, it's usually just some guy from Minnesota, you know, that he's been working
his whole life and he has, and he has savings built up and he wants to say he's been
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:vacationing in Costa Rica for a decade and he wants to buy a house down there and he's
been working with his local tax professionals whole life.
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:They don't know.
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:They don't know what they don't know, you know?
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:And so usually people are getting to me.
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:I know a lot of attorneys and real estate agents in Costa Rica.
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:Costa Rica it makes sense to set up their version of an LLC which is the SRL.
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:And so that's where the wheels start to fall off if they don't talk to someone like me is
because they set up the LLC and all of sudden they have a controlled foreign corporation.
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:They've never had something like that.
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:Their tax preparer in the U.S.
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:has no idea what to do about that.
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:And then they're they have their their personally using a house that's in a controlled
foreign corporation that causes problems.
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:They sell it later and they're triggering subpart F that they don't know about.
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:So it just it causes a lot of problems which is
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:very simply avoided with the check the box selection.
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:know, that's really, but I mean, generally how I do it when I talk to my clients is I kind
of phase it out.
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:The first thing is
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:We want to make sure you're filing the right tax forms on time so that we don't have
stupid penalties.
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:That's like step one of tax planning.
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:And then step two is how do we actually structure this in a way that doesn't get you worse
off from a tax perspective?
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:And then step three is how do we make it better?
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:You know, and usually like step one is where people mess up, which is not filing the right
forms on time.
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:But that's how they're getting to me.
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:Usually it's just like they, they see like I have, I have,
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:YouTube channel where I talk about a lot of this stuff and people find me through there
but otherwise it's local contacts that people ask the right questions or sometimes they're
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:like 10 years into a property and we have to figure out how to unwind things which is a
little more problematic but yeah.
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:YouTube channel, by the way, super educational.
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:And so we'll be sure to link that as well as a great resource for anyone who's looking to
learn more about uh property ownership and real estate and a lot of great tax content as
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:So thank you so much for doing that.
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:um we covered a lot of big words.
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:So I want to kind of like break it down.
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:Break it down.
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:Like check the box election and subpart F and foreign controlled.
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:corporation.
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:Can you break down some of these terms so they don't sound so intimidating to people who
are thinking about buying property in Latin America?
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:I mean, the first step is when you're purchasing a property down here, like in Costa Rica,
you, it usually makes sense to have their version of the LLC.
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:There's liable.
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:They have liability protection.
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:That's one thing, although it's not really like a it's not like the U.S.
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:where everybody sues everybody for no particular reason.
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:So you don't.
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:But you do want that protection.
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:But more so in my experience, it's that it's easy to give attorneys in Costa Rica power of
attorney to do things for you.
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:Like if you're in the U.S.
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:and your electricity gets shut off and you don't have somebody down there that has a power
of attorney to go to the
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:the municipality and get it turned back on, you're gonna have problems.
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:And it's a lot easier to assign that authority over when you have a company owning it.
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:That's about as technical as I can get with that.
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:the scenario, but I know it's just more complicated from an individual perspective.
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:So you have the company there, but the problem is when you have an LLC, so in in a in any
foreign country, but in Costa Rica in particular, ah it defaults to a foreign corporation.
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:So everybody like the rule in the US is if you set up an LLC and it owns a rental
property, ah it's going to default to a flow through.
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:So a disregarded entity or a partnership, depending on
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:the number of owners and all that really means is the income and losses of the company or
of the rental are going to flow through to you personally as if you owned it directly as
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:opposed to like a corporate setup where corporation pays tax and then you pay tax on the
distribution nobody does that in the US you don't set up a C Corp to own a rental property
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:and you don't want to do the same thing in foreign country it's just that the default rule
is the opposite with a foreign LLC the default rules are based on whether it provides
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:protection to all the owners and LLC by definition does that so it defaults to a foreign
corporation so that's where the check the box election comes in or an entity
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:classification election you want to proactively make an election to treat it as a flow
through so a partnership or a disregarded entity depending on who owns it that way the
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:benefit of that is control foreign corporations are messy and complicated they're gonna
have
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:There's ordinary income tax on the rental income and then it can be the biggest problem I
see other than the complexity of the filings is later if you want to sell that property,
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:um So there's really, there's very few situations where you want to keep it in a foreign
corporation.
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corporate set up.
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:And one of those is if you're paying enough tax in the foreign country, then you're not
subject to these anti-deferral rules where you have to pick up the income.
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:But anyway, mean, the short answer is keeping it in that flow through structure is very
beneficial.
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:So that's like the first main gotcha.
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:You from there, there's a lot we can do.
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:But if you try to make that election later, so you have 75 days to make it, you can
technically still do it if you haven't filed your tax return related to that year yet.
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:But after that, if you try to make that election to treat it as a flow through, it's
treated as a deemed sale of the property.
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:So when people come to me saying...
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:coming across clients who they've held this property for five, 10 years.
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:They never did the check the box election because they were working with their aunt in
Minnesota who's the local accountant.
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:Right, yeah, I mean, that's one of the scenarios.
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:Sometimes I get lucky and people find me when they're in the closing process of selling
their houses or purchasing the places down here.
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:we're going to have to deal with the deemed sale rules.
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:So then it's just a question of, you do have the benefit when it's a deemed sale.
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:So if you make the election, it's treated as a deemed sale of the property ah in the
company.
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:so, I mean, these, by the way, these are just U S concepts, right?
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:Like if you set up an S R L in Costa Rica and you make an entity classification election,
it's still an S R L in Costa Rica.
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:It doesn't change anything locally for their
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:I think that's a really good point though.
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:Like, yes, the US tax system does not align with these foreign systems.
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:Right, doesn't, this is all US tax return things.
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:We make an election for US purposes to treat it as a flow through.
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:But if you do it too late, it's a deemed sale of the property because the IRS looks at it
as a liquidation.
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:Just like if you wanted to liquidate a USC corporation, you have to sell the property and
liquidate the proceeds.
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:So it's the same concept.
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:So what we play with is like how aggressive can we be with the sales price, the deemed
sales price of the property?
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:Like if you purchased it for $300,000 two years ago and we want to make an election, we
can go back
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:So you take a hit on a $50,000 gain for the benefit of maybe five years from now it's
worth $500,000 and you have a capital gain on that difference.
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:Whereas if you just kept it like it was and sold it five years from now, you would have
had a $200,000 capital.
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:$200,000 ordinary gain tax like wages as opposed to uh a $50,000 ordinary gain and
$150,000 capital gain.
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:yeah, so I mean, there's, but otherwise, I mean, I have some clients that, yeah, they've
the property since, you know,:
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:They're kind of stuck in that and we just have to manage it that way.
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:Is the planning opportunity hold it till you die at that point then?
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:Or, I mean, another option is if you sell it, sell the stock in the company and not the
property itself.
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:Cause like if you're Canadian or, you know, and you want to, it could be beneficial.
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:But yeah, if you're an American, you could sell the stock and you get the capital gain and
you're good.
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:just limits your, your, basically can't sell to us people that have tax advisors is what
it comes down to.
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:my gosh, I mean, I think I have this conversation every single day of my life, but like
the handcuffs that we wear as American citizens abroad are, I mean, this is like a great
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:It's like, we're going to have to do all this magical accounting that doesn't exist
anywhere else.
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:What are the considerations if you sell property, if when you go to sell the property
there?
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:Well, mean, actually, Latin America does have pretty high tax rates in general.
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the rules and then there's what everybody does, right?
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:And so you have to figure out, it's just a little more, I don't know if lax is the right
word, but I mean, but yes, the tax rates are high like on in corporate, so selling a
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:can be a 25 % tax rate in Costa Rica.
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:There are concessions for like if it's your first property, they have concessions for
that.
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:uh And their rules around like basis and things like that are just different.
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:So you come up with very different calculations sometimes with your US gain and the gain
in Costa Rica.
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:But I mean, yeah, in the U.S., that's part of the reason or a big part of the reason why
we do the flow through strategy, though, honestly, is because you're just going to pay the
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:So you're going to get a credit in the U.S.
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:oh But I mean, one thing I've found in particular, Costa Rica in particular is more
expensive than probably any other Latin America.
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:If you want to buy a rental property down here, mean, I'm not, you
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:If you want to buy a rental property down here, don't do it expecting you're doing it to
make money on your rental property, because you're not going to.
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:Well, there's a lot of competition for rents.
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:The costs are expensive.
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:You have VAT filings.
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:So you have to have monthly filings for VAT for the Airbnb operation or whatever you're
doing.
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:So I mean they also allow expenses and things like that against the property so that's why
a lot of times it's not really an income tax issue just because you're probably not making
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:That's like we look at that's the next step is looking at real estate professional rules
and uh and avoiding some of these like passive loss.
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:After we have everything set up correctly and you're filing the right forms on time, then
we try to figure out, how can we use or how can we basically, how can we save taxes on
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:And I'm also curious, are there rules, because we were putting these all in these foreign
corporate, what are the rules around then actually using this property?
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:If you've worked your whole life to buy this property, now we've put it into this foreign
entity and we have all these rules around it, are you then also limited about how long you
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:Well, and that's a big reason we don't want it in the foreign corporation, because if you
start staying in the corporation's house, it's their house, it's not your house.
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:So you have to start compensating yourself and paying yourself rent, and then it just gets
way too complicated.
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:They just do it and...
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:So that's another reason you don't want the foreign company because it makes that
complicated.
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:But if it's a disregarded entity or a partnership, you don't have to pay yourself rent.
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:But there are limitations on your ability to take losses if you spend too much time
personally on the property.
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:And so you're limited to, it's a very confusing calculation, but it's basically, you're
limited to 14 days in the property yourself or 10 % of your total rental days.
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:So like if you rent the place out for 300 days a year, you can spend 30 days in it.
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:If you spend more time than that, it just means you can't take more losses than you had
income.
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:So like a, a strategy I use sometimes with people is let's say, cause there's still the
passive activity loss rules, which means like, like if you have any rental property, it's
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:considered passive and losses get stuck in a passive activity basket and you can use it
for later for income or if you sell the property.
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:But if you fall under these real estate professional rules, which basically means 750
hours or more work like working related to the rental property, which is easier to hit
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:The biggest threshold is that you can't spend more time on another job.
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:So if you're full-time employee, realistically, there's no way you could justify spending
more time on your rental than your full-time job.
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:So it only really works for like retired people or if one of the spouses maybe isn't
working.
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:So this is a little more complicated, but if it's a real estate professional, you can take
those, if you're, if one of you is a real estate professional, you can take the loss from
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depreciation deductions and things like that.
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locked out.
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:Let's say let's say it gets locked out under that scenario for like three years and you
kind of built up these losses Well, maybe you have a big income year in one particular
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:I advise my clients well go stay and go rent a property next door to your house and in
that year make sure we don't hit those personal you stays and you can unlock all of those
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:But that's just an example of like one of the, there's limitations you have to work
around, but you know, with foresight and timing and things like that, you know, you can
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considering buying a property abroad, whether that's in Costa Rica or in France or
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:wherever, what's kind of one piece of advice that you would want them to walk away with
today?
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:Yeah, I would say don't assume setting up a non US company has the same impact as it would
setting up a US company.
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:So if you set up a French LLC or an LLC in any other country, don't assume it's going to
have it's going to work the same as a US one because it almost always is not.
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necessarily do it, but put you
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qualified professionals to help you, you know, that's even better.
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going to work the way they work in the US because they usually don't.
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:And em yeah, and it all comes down to the advice for, like you said, the advice for France
is not the advice for Costa Rica, is not the advice for the UK, is not the advice for
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they're spending a significant amount of money on these properties and they'll kind of
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well enough to where I know where I would want to be, you know?
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know?
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:Anyway, yeah, get good advice and don't make assumptions and you're going to be in a lot
better position than some of the other people, I think.
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:Alex, thank you so much for talking to us from the beach.
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