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Episode 61: Good News! Thoughts are Optional!
Episode 6213th July 2026 • Midlife with Brooke • Brooke Oniki
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Two inmates. The same caseworker. One thinks she's amazing; the other thinks she shouldn't even have a job. So which is it?

In this episode, I share stories from my coaching classes at the Utah State Prison that perfectly illustrate one of the most foundational principles in coaching: our thoughts — not our circumstances — create our feelings. The same sentencing, the same caseworker, the same camping trip, the same child, the same bank account can produce completely different emotional experiences depending on the thoughts we choose to have about them.

But here's what this episode is not about: rushing to swap your thought for a shinier one. Before we ever change a thought, we need awareness of what our current thoughts are creating for us — in our relationships, our identity, and the meaning we give to our lives.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why circumstances (a sentencing, a caseworker, a "difficult" child) are neutral until we have a thought about them
  • The important caveat: thoughts create feelings in a regulated nervous system — and why we need to calm down before we can access our adult brain
  • Why "thoughts are optional" doesn't mean lying to yourself or pretending everything is rainbows and daisies
  • How our thoughts become self-fulfilling prophecies — like the mom who was grumpy with her "grumpy" daughter
  • How thoughts confirm our existing beliefs, so our brain only gathers evidence for what we already think
  • The three areas where heavy thoughts do the most damage: our relationships, our identity stories ("it's too late for me to change"), and the meaning we load onto circumstances
  • Why sitting with a thought — on paper or in prayer — is where the transformation actually begins

Your invitation this week: pick one relationship that isn't going well and ask yourself, "What are my predominant thoughts about this person, and how do those thoughts make me feel? Is that how I want to feel toward them?"

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Free Resources: Visit www.brookeoniki.com and click "Free Resources" for short videos on how to stop spiraling thoughts, how to reconnect after a hard interaction with your child, and how to calm an elevated nervous system.

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Welcome to Midlife with Brooke.

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I am your host, Brooke Oniki.

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I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ,

a wife, mother, grandma,

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and a certified life coach.

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On this podcast, we talk about all things

mothering, health and emotional wellbeing.

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I share practical tools and

examples from my life and from the

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lives of my clients to help you

navigate this new season of midlife.

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It can feel tricky and confusing and

a little bit out of our comfort zone

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as our children grow up and they

don't really need us in the same way.

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These concepts and principles have changed

my life and I've watched them change

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the lives of my clients, and I hope that

they can be helpful if there are things

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that you wanna change in your life.

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So let's get started.

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Hello.

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Welcome to the podcast.

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I'm so glad that you're here today.

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And before we start, I just

wanna invite you again to go to

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my website at brookeoniki.com

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and grab the free resources there.

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across the top of the page, there are some

tabs, and one of them says free resources.

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You go there,

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And you can click on these videos about

how to stop spiraling thoughts, how to

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re-engage with your child when you have

a bad interaction, and How to calm down

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your nervous system when you're feeling

a little overstimulated, 'cause we don't

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usually say things that we're happy about

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when we're in fight or flight.

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So if I can bring that down a notch

before I have a conversation, that is only

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gonna be a blessing to my relationship.

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So go and grab those.

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And then today I wanna tell

you about a conversation I

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had last week at the prison.

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I volunteer at the Utah State Prison

to teach coaching classes there

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to the male inmates, and I've been

doing it for almost two years.

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In September it'll be two years.

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And this week we were talking

about their sentencing.

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So in Utah, they don't give you, a

strict sentencing for your crime.

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They give you, like, one to

15 years, or one to five.

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so as they go into the prison,

they don't actually know how

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long they're gonna stay there.

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And so we were having a

discussion about this, and one

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of the inmates said, "I like it.

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I like that we don't have a precise

sentencing, because it makes it so I

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don't count down the days, and it also

helps me feel like I can influence

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the outcome by having good behaviors."

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And so he's been in prison before, and

he said when he knows the exact date,

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it seems like it takes more

time, or it's a little bit like

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waiting for Christmas to come.

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It just feels like so long.

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So he said that that was his preference.

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Whereas another guy said he hates that

it's like that, because he doesn't

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know how long he'll be there, and he

wonders should he be selling his car,

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should he be selling some of the things

that he has on the outside that he

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isn't gonna be using for a while.

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If he were gonna get out in a

year, then he wouldn't do that.

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If he's gonna be in there for

10 years, then it seems smarter

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to sell some of his assets.

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And so he feels like the, the not knowing

is making it more challenging for him.

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I had another discussion another

day about case workers, and one of

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the inmates said, "I have this case

worker that I think is so amazing.

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She's so great, and she's been so helpful

to me, and she's helped me prepare when

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I go to see the board, and she's just

given me a lot of tips and insights."

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And this other guy said,

"I hate my case worker.

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She shouldn't even have a job here.

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She's so lazy.

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She doesn't do anything."

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And then as we talked further, they

found out they had the same case worker.

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So the topic we're discussing today is

how our thoughts create our feelings.

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We can have the same circumstance,

which would be a sentencing of 1 to

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15 years in prison, and one person

thinks that's a great way to do

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it and another person hates it.

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Or we can have the same caseworker,

and one person thinks she's doing

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a great job and one person thinks

she's doing a terrible job.

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And if we interviewed 15 more people,

we might find Some people that think

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she's okay, or some people that

think she's been good at sometimes

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and not so good at other times.

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Everyone's gonna have their own opinion.

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So it's not the caseworker

that's good or bad, or even the

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sentencing that's good or bad.

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It's the thoughts we choose to

have about those circumstances

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that cause our emotions.

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If I feel like this woman's a waste

of time, she hasn't helped me at all,

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chances are when I go in to have a

meeting with her, I'm gonna carry those

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feelings in with me, and I might also

act like I don't care or be a little

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resentful or resistant to her because

I think she's doing such a poor job.

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So those feelings that I create

when I think she's not a good

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caseworker are going to carry

in to my relationship with her.

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And so that's why it's really important

to understand that our thoughts create

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our feelings, because it affects

our relationship with other people

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and our relationship with ourselves.

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And I do wanna put a little caveat

here, that our thoughts create our

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feelings in a regulated nervous system.

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If I am in fight or flight or shut down,

if I have huge emotions, it's really

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hard for me to access my rational way

of thinking because I feel like I'm

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in danger or I'm trapped, or I feel

some trauma from some past experience.

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Whatever it is that's causing me to

feel outside of my regulated nervous

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system, I'm not gonna be capable

of accessing my rational thoughts.

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So we wanna move into a place where

we feel calm so that we can access

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our adult brain, so that we can

think about a situation in a way that

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will help us to handle it better.

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Let's talk about this a little more.

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I'll give you a few more examples.

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I think camping is an interesting example.

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Camping in and of itself

is not a good or bad thing.

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It's something that people choose to do.

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They take their gear, they take their

food, and up they go into the mountains.

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And some people have thoughts

about camping that make it

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such a lovely experience.

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Like, "This is so fun.

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I love nature.

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I love the outdoors.

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I love disconnecting

from all the technology.

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Camping is just the greatest

thing in the world."

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Other people might think,

"It's a lot of work.

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It's so much effort for so little time."

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Or someone might say, "Camping's something

people did before they had homes,

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where they didn't have any shelter.

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Why would you ever go camping when you

can sleep in a bed or stay in a hotel?"

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So camping is just neutral.

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It's just a circumstance until we have

a thought about it, and some thoughts

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make us feel really warm towards

camping, and other people have thoughts

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that make them never ever wanna camp.

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And then there are some

in the middle as well.

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Amusement parks is another example.

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Some people have thoughts about

how fun it is to go on the roller

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coasters and how fun it is to go on

things that turn 'em upside down.

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They love, love amusement parks.

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And other people would rather go

anywhere but an amusement park.

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So amusement parks are not good or

bad, they are just available to us,

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and we get to decide how we think about

them, and that will create how we feel.

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It's been fun to watch the World Cup.

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I had a daughter say to me she's had these

warm feelings about being an American in

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the last couple of weeks, 'cause she lives

in Boston and there have been all these

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people who've come from other nations

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Scotland was one of the teams that

played in Boston, and she said she went

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to baseball game at Fenway Park and all

these Scottish people were there, and they

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were chanting and cheering and she said

they, they loved it here, and everybody

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was so warm and friendly, and it just

felt nice to be a part of a country

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that was so welcoming and loving.

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And she said, "I just had these

feelings of being so proud of, of our

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people and their kindness and their

openness and their welcomeness."

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So sometimes we have thoughts,

especially in recent years, where

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people are like, "We're so divided," and

everybody a- and the country's so torn.

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And so we have those kinds of

thoughts about our country, and

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then we feel isolated and alone.

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But when we have thoughts

that everyone's friendly and

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welcoming and this has been so

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fun and healing, then I have different

feelings inside So the reason I

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wanna talk about this today isn't

so that you can hurry and change

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your thought to something else.

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It's so that we can create an awareness

around the thoughts that we choose to

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have and see what they're creating for us.

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And when we know what our

thoughts are creating for us,

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then we can decide whether or not

that's a pattern we wanna keep.

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Because sometimes the thoughts that we

have are useful to us, and they create

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strong bonds in our relationship.

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Like, you might have really loving

feelings towards a sister or one

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of your kids or your husband, and

those actually create really good

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connections with those people.

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But if I don't, rather than hurry and

switch it to something that I don't

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actually fully believe, I wanna just

look at, what are my underlying thoughts,

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and how is it affecting my emotions

that then affect my relationships?

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So let me give you an example.

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If you have a belief that somebody doesn't

like you, and it could be even true.

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What if someone came to you and said,

"So-and-so told me, she doesn't like you"?

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That could be a circumstance that

someone actually came and told you that.

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So if that is my underlying thought,

"She doesn't like me, she doesn't like

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me, she doesn't like me," I may feel

insecure around her or uncertain or unsure

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And if I feel insecure or unsure,

the chances of me being warm and

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friendly to her are very small.

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Because when we feel insecure or

unsure, we tend to avoid, right?

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We might see this person at church

or in the grocery store or on our

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street, and when we do, we may look

the other way or go another way,

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anything to avoid confrontation.

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Because if my thought is, "She doesn't

like me," and I feel insecure, then I'm

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gonna try to avoid, because my brain is

trying to keep me from anything that will

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feel dangerous or uncomfortable, because

that's what my primitive brain does.

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That's just interesting to know.

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And then I can decide maybe I wanna

do that, maybe I wanna avoid her.

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And I can.

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I can do that the rest

of my life if I want to.

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Or if I notice that that's a pattern

that I have, I could decide, "Hmm,

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I don't really wanna focus on that."

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And if I don't want to, then

I can change my thought.

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But that's not what we're

talking about today.

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Today we're talking about

just becoming aware.

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Another one that might happen

is you thinking something

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like, "He's a difficult child."

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So sometimes my client will come

to me and say, "I have this son.

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He's been very difficult

his whole entire life."

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And we'll talk about how, well,

that's actually not a fact.

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If I took a blood test, I

wouldn't be able to find…

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I…

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Oh, look, his blood says

he's a difficult child.

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So it's not actually a fact, it's a

thought that this mother's having.

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And so when I point this out

to her she will say to me,

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"Oh, no, no, it, it is true.

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When he was in first grade he did this,

and he had these problems in second

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and third grade, and my husband has

had all this confrontation with him.

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He's very difficult with

his siblings," right?

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So she has lots and lots of evidence

that this is a difficult child.

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And so when we have more evidence, it

feels so true to us that it's really

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hard to believe that it's just a thought.

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But if I can look at it and say, "Well,

let's look at some other situations.

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What about his friends?

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If I were to talk to them, would

they tell me he's a difficult child?"

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"No, no, he has great

friends, and they love him.

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And even his school teachers will

tell me he's so fun in class, and

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he gets along with everyone, and

he's really respectful to me."

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Right.

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So often this parent is a little

frustrated like, "Why can't you be that

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way at home if you're that way at school?"

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But it's interesting to notice that the

friends and the school teachers have

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different thoughts about this child.

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So in their hearts and

minds, he isn't difficult.

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So that's one way we know

that it's not a fact, because

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different people are experiencing

this person in different ways.

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So the fact is you have a son.

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He's a certain age, he's a certain

height, he has a certain birthday.

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All of those things are factual, but

our feelings about this person differ

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because of the thoughts we have about him.

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I think it's interesting,

like a bank account.

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The husband and wife can see there's

the same amount of money in the

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bank account, and one of them might

think, "This is not enough money.

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We need to make more money."

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And feel lots of scarcity around

that number, and the other spouse can

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say, "Oh, there's plenty of money.

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We're fine."

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So it's not the money that is good or

bad, right or wrong, a lot or a little.

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It's the thoughts we have that create

the scarcity or abundance, that create

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the warmth towards this child or

the frustration towards this child.

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'Cause if I'm constantly thinking it's

a difficult child, then my brain is

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looking for evidence that that's true.

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It never spends any time

saying, "Oh, no, no, he's great.

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He's fun.

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You should notice the good about him."

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It just looks for evidence

that he's difficult.

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And so if that's the thought that I choose

to have perpetually about my child, it's

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going to be very difficult for me to

find the good in him because I have this

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underlying belief that he is difficult.

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So even if I have evidence, even if I

can give lots and lots of reasons why I

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think this, if I can create some awareness

around it and recognize when that is my

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primary thought, it affects my ability

to love and be open to the goodness in

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this child, then that's when I might

wanna look at it and go, "Hmm, is that

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the thought that I want to have as my

underlying belief about this child?"

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So here are some things to consider

when you're trying to understand that

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your thoughts create your feelings.

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The idea is thoughts are optional.

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The fact that you have a son, he's 17

years old, he's 6'1", he was born on

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January 5th, those are all factual things.

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My thought that he's

difficult is optional.

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Most people have lots of reasons for

telling me this child is difficult.

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So I'm not saying that thinking that

is a wrong thought or a silly thought.

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There's no judgment around it, but

we do wanna notice that if that

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is my pervasive thought, it will

affect my relationship with them.

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So if I know that thoughts are

optional, then I can just say,

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"That means they're not mandatory.

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They're not required."

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It's just an automatic thought

that my brain has handed to me.

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It's a sentence that my brain has

offered up, and I've used it so often

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that maybe it's become a habit for me.

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And so if I realize that, then I can

recognize, oh, I could ask my brain to

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offer up a different thought that might

be more useful and produce an emotion

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that I like better So just know we have

these circumstances, these situations that

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are neutral, whatever happened, right?

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Someone telling you that this person

doesn't like you, the words she

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said, she said she doesn't like you.

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That could be my circumstance,

and It's not good or bad until

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I have a thought about it.

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'Cause I could think, "Hmm,

well, I don't really like being

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around her that much either."

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Or I could think, "She

doesn't know me well enough.

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I'm sure if we got to know each

other better, it would be different."

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Or I could think, "I need to go

over and talk to her and get to

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know her better and, and let her

know that I'm a good person," right?

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There's so many different things

that you could choose to do, but just

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knowing that my thoughts are optional

is super useful because then I can

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recognize, is it one I wanna keep?

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Is it one I wanna let go of?

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Are there other things

I can experiment with?

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So it's not silly, and it's not

necessarily even false, right?

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If someone says to you, "I don't

like you," or, or my friend…

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If someone says to you, "She told me

she doesn't like you," I don't have

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to tell myself, "That's not true."

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I could say, "Okay.

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Well, what do I wanna do with that?

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Do I wanna not like her?

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Do I wanna go around being nervous

and afraid and trying to avoid her?

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Or do I wanna just let go of that

and not worry about it so much?"

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If I realize that my thoughts are

optional, then I know that I have

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lots of things to choose from, and

I don't have to choose the, "She

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doesn't like me," and feel all anxious

and worried and uptight about it.

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I don't want you to confuse

optional with I'm lying to myself

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if I pick a different thought.

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So if, for instance, your thought is,

"He's a difficult child," and and you're

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trying to think of another way to think

about it, your brain might say, "Well,

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I'm not gonna think he's great.

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I'm not gonna think he's

obedient, 'cause that's not true."

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So I'm not asking you to choose another

thought that's rainbows and daisies,

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but I could just choose to loosen

my grip on the he's so difficult.

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I could think, what are some things

that I do appreciate about him?

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Or what are some ways that I've

seen him try and make effort?

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And don't I love that his friends

love him so much, and that

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his teachers love him so much?

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Are there things that I could choose

to think other than he's so difficult

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that feel true to me so they're not

lying, but they're not as heavy as

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the he's such a difficult child?

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So that's another thing to remember.

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Your brain will try to tell you, "Well,

another thought will just be a lie,"

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but that's not actually true, 'cause

people are very three-dimensional.

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They're not just a sum of

their worst characteristics.

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And so if I can loosen my grip

on that, I can choose to think

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something else if I want to.

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The second thing I want to talk to you

about is that thoughts mirror behavior

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or they confirm an existing belief.

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I had a client come to me years ago

and said, my daughter's so grumpy," and

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we started talking about it, and she

was giving me all kinds of evidence.

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She goes in her room, and she stays

in her room, and she never comes out,

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and she doesn't talk to the family.

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And so she had this belief that she was

so grumpy, but when the child did come

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out, the mother, my client, was grumpy

with her because she had had all these

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negative thoughts about this child,

rather than thinking, "Isn't it great that

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she knows when she needs some downtime?

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Isn't it great that she

loves reading so much?

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Isn't it great that she knows

what she needs emotionally and can

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take care of herself in that way?"

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And she came back to me and

was like, "This is crazy.

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When I started thinking different thoughts

about her and different thoughts about

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why she goes somewhere else to read,

then when she did re-engage with the

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family, I wasn't grumpy because I'd been

thinking different thoughts about her.

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When I thought, 'She's

grumpy,' I got judgmental.

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I got kind of hard on her.

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And so when she returned, I was grumpy."

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So that is a fascinating thing,

that we mirror the behavior that

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we dislike in the other person.

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I've seen it over and over again.

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You know, someone tells me, "Well,

he's really judgmental," and then they

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tell me all the things that he's doing

wrong, and then what's the result?

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I'm really judgmental of him.

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one last example, I've had this happen

before where I have felt like someone

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didn't like me, and so I avoid them and

try to stay away because I don't wanna

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be around people who don't because my

brain feels like that's scary and so it

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tries to be protective and keep me away

from people that maybe don't like me.

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But I remember this happening at one

point and I thought, "Wait a second,

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but I actually like her, and I really

respect the kind of mother she is and

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the things I've learned from her."

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told her, "I'm really impressed with the

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kind of mother you are and here are some

things I've learned as I've watched you."

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And we had this really sweet interaction

and she showed me some pictures of

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her kids and told me about some things

that were going on in their family,

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and we had this beautiful interaction.

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And I thought, "I don't actually know

if she likes me or doesn't like me, but

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I could choose not to focus on that.

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I could choose to focus

on what I like about her."

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And I genuinely had things that

I could focus on, and it totally

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changed how I interacted with her.

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All of a sudden, I didn't need to turn

the other way or go down a different

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street because I was taking charge

of the thoughts that I had, and that

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automatically changed my feeling.

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Another thing is that our

thoughts confirm existing bias.

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So if I have a thought, "He's

always lying to me," then I'm gonna

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look for evidence that he lies.

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If I have a thought like, "I'm a terrible

mother," my brain is gonna look for

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evidence of places that I have failed.

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It's never gonna tell me,

"Oh, Brooke, it's not true.

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You're a great mother."

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It just doesn't do that.

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It looks for evidence of whatever

it is that we choose to think

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So the last thing I wanna talk to

you about how our thoughts affect our

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relationships, our identity, and also

the meaning that we give to things.

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So I've used examples.

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I'll just touch on these briefly.

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Relational things are the mirroring

kinds of things, like, "She doesn't

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like me," or, "He's difficult,"

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So if I have these thoughts in

relation to other people, it's gonna

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affect my actions towards them.

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If I'm going in with this leading belief

that she doesn't wanna be my friend, or

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they don't really want us to come, or

they don't think we're very much fun, if

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I have those thoughts, I'm gonna go into

that situation in a much more fearful

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and apologetic manner, and I don't

present as the best version of myself.

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So that's just good for me to know.

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The second one is identity or

stories that we tell ourselves.

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So if I have a client come to me

and she says, "I should have married

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that boy that I liked in high

school," that's an identity issue.

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Like, I made a mistake.

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I shouldn't be in this relationship.

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I shouldn't be in this marriage.

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Or if they say something to me like,

"It's too late for me to change.

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I'm too old.

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I can't change my feelings about

my body," or, "I've made too many

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mistakes with my daughter-in-law.

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There's no way we can repair it now,"

those are identity thoughts that

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keep us stuck in the same patterns.

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If, for instance, I think I should have

married the boy that I liked in high

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school, it's impossible for me to be

open to the marriage I actually chose.

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It's gonna affect how I

have a relationship with

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the marriage that I'm in.

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If I believe it's too late for me

to repair my relationship with my

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daughter-in-law, it's gonna shut down my

ability to try or my ability to be open.

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And so if I can recognize that these

thoughts I have about my identity also

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affect my motivation, my willingness to

try, my openness to change and repentance,

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and belief that with the help of God

I can be a different person, if I can

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notice these are the thoughts that are

keeping me stuck in this place, and they

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create emotions that, that make me feel

overwhelmed or misunderstood or shut down,

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Then I can see, oh, are these

really beliefs and thoughts

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that I wanna hold onto?

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'Cause if they aren't, I can remember

that thoughts are optional, and these

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aren't the ones that I have to choose.

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And the last one sometimes

our thoughts are really loaded

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with meaning and heavier.

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So I've had a client come to me and say,

"My son is a functioning alcoholic."

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And as we talked about it in more

detail, she was able to share all

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these things she loved about her son.

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But she was leading with, "He's a

functioning alcoholic," and it was

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affecting her ability to see him as

a fully three-dimensional person with

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all kinds of strengths and weaknesses.

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And so that was a really

big aha moment for her

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Or another client who said to me, "I

thought my kids were gonna live by me."

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And so as they grew up and they got

married and then they didn't live by

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her, She just had a lot of feelings

about that, the circumstance might

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be she lives in Arizona, and they're

living in Colorado, and she thought

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everyone was gonna live in Arizona.

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So that's the circumstance.

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One child moved to Colorado, and I get to

decide what my thoughts are about that.

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For a while, she was choosing, "I thought

they were gonna live by me," and she

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felt really discouraged and sad and

heartbroken about this unmet expectation.

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But over time, as she processed through

that, she started to change her mind

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and started to see, oh, we're gonna

just get to love Colorado as well.

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So it's just an interesting thing that

we can change the way we choose to think

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I have people tell me they feel

like they've made covenants with

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God to get their children back to

the celestial kingdom, and that is a

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surefire way to get controlling and

manipulative and be sad all of the time.

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And so thoughts like that can be

really heavy and really loaded and

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cause all kinds of pain, not only for

you, but also for your family members.

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So we just have to notice these

thoughts that I have, are they useful?

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Are they helping me be the

kind of person that I wanna be?

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And if they aren't, then good news,

because thoughts are optional, and I can

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change the way I think about these things.

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But I don't wanna want you

to rush off to a new thought.

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when these heavy, loaded thoughts

are there, we don't wanna rush

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off because these are things

that have built up over time.

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These are things that you've

believed for a long, long time.

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And so to think that we're gonna

immediately just flip it to some new way

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of thinking isn't, isn't practical really.

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So we just wanna notice it and sit with

it and recognize what it's creating

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for us, and that awareness alone is

gonna make a huge difference for us.

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So we don't wanna think of the thought

as wrong or bad, we just wanna look

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at it and see what it's producing.

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And you may wanna talk

to someone about it.

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You may wanna talk to a friend or

talk to a coach and figure out, "Is

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this thought actually creating harm

in my relationship, or is it actually

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helping me in my relationship?"

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Because if it's optional, that's really

good news because I don't have to

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stay with it if it's creating problems

for me or for someone that I love.

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So in closing, understanding

what current thoughts create is

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where the transformation lies.

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Our goal is to just notice

that thoughts create feelings

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And even though you've heard it a

million times, and I hear clients say

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this all the time, "I know it's my

thoughts, I know it's my thoughts.

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My thoughts are creating my feelings."

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But really sitting with that or writing

it down and recognizing, oh, I'm feeling

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a little resentful, and it's coming from a

thought that she shouldn't be treating me

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this way, or I should be able to do this,

or it's not fair that this is happening.

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Sometimes we don't actually

even know what our thoughts are.

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They're just all jumbled up in our head,

and we never pour them out on a piece

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of paper or pour them out in a prayer so

that we can actually see what's going on.

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So recognizing that our thoughts

are creating our feelings, then

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walking it through and kind

of unpacking it a little bit.

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What feeling does this thought create?

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What actions take over

when I feel this way?

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What do I stop doing?

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What do I start doing?

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And then do I like the results it creates?

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And if I don't, then after that, after

all the unpacking and the thinking

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and the reflecting, then when I feel

ready, I can move to something else.

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And we'll talk about that on another day.

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But today, the goal is to just understand

that awareness that our thoughts create

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our feelings is where the magic lies.

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Because once I understand that and accept

that it's not something that I want,

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then it's much easier to move forward.

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So I hope you'll do that.

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Look at some relationship in your

life that's not going very well and

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think, "What are the predominant

thoughts I have about this person

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or about this relationship,

and how does it make me feel?

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And do I wanna feel that way towards them?

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Do I wanna feel that way in my own heart?"

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And let's just look at it.

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All right.

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Have a good week.

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Go get those free resources at my

website, or you can also get them

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in the show notes if you want.

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All right.

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I just started another Bridges group this

week, and I'm super excited for them.

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If you wanna know more about that,

you can also find that on my website.

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So if you wanna be in a group coaching,

if you want more help than you're

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getting from the podcast, or if you

wanna do private coaching, you can

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come to a consult call, and I can

explain those resources to you as well.

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All right, have a good week.

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See you next time.

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