In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Will Farrell, co-lead of climate change at Federated Hermes Stewardship and Engagement Body (EOS), about the complexities of reducing emissions in hard-to-abate sectors like aviation, shipping, and primary chemicals.

They explore the obstacles related to systemic dependencies, policy enablers, and market-led changes such as electric vehicles. They also discuss the importance of policy clarity, value chain coordination, and governance in achieving successful energy transitions.

1:03 Introducing the US$2.1 trillion sustainability heavyweight

1:36 Energy transition for hard-to-abate sectors

2:57 How economies of scale drive change

5:17 Why climate solutions are expensive for primary chemicals

6:59 The role of policymakers

8:30 The 21% cost advantage of SA’s hydrogen strategy

9:46 Coordinating the value chain

11:03 Case study: The cement industry

12:06 Key messages for investors and companies