The latest installment of Grilling at the Green After Hours features an engaging and humorous dialogue between host JT and guest Chris Mascaro, who brings a unique perspective on golf and personal anecdotes that resonate with both avid golfers and casual listeners alike. The conversation flows effortlessly as they delve into the joys and challenges of the game, punctuated by Chris's amusing reflections on his unexpected role as a motorcycle gang leader in a fictional context. This light-hearted banter sets the tone for a deeper exploration of golf culture, touching upon the nuances of the sport, the importance of camaraderie, and the shared experiences among golfers.

Listeners are treated to a delightful mix of personal stories and insightful commentary, particularly when Chris reveals his admiration for golf legends. He expresses a desire to play a round with Jack Nicklaus, his childhood idol, and to receive short game lessons from Jordan Spieth, showcasing his appreciation for the intricacies of the game. As they discuss golf etiquette, Chris proposes a radical yet relatable decree for golfers: if your ball lands in a divot, a free drop should be granted. This humorous suggestion underscores the episode's central theme of enjoying the game without the burdens of traditional restrictions, reflecting a more relaxed modern approach to golfing.

The show culminates in a nostalgic reflection on the passage of time, with Chris reminiscing about the carefree days of his youth, contrasting them with the responsibilities of adulthood. Their discussions touch on the physical demands of the sport and aging, leading to a humorous consensus that many golfers today might relate to. With a blend of humor, nostalgia, and passion for golf, this episode of Grilling at the Green After Hours offers an enriching listening experience that leaves the audience not only entertained but also contemplating their own golfing journeys.

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Chris Mascaro: 00:00:25

Welcome to Grilling at the Green after hours.

Chris Mascaro: 00:00:27

The conversation that took place after the show ended.

JT: 00:00:30

Hi, everybody.

JT: 00:00:31

It's jt.

JT: 00:00:32

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JT: 00:00:35

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JT: 00:00:38

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JT: 00:00:41

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JT: 00:00:43

All right.

JT: 00:00:43

It's that time everybody's been waiting for.

JT: 00:00:45

It is after hours here on Grilling at the Green.

JT: 00:00:49

We've got the biker gang leader himself, CT Mascaro, on.

JT: 00:00:55

On with us today.

JT: 00:00:56

If you, you know, if you don't understand that joke, there's a couple of books you should probably read.

JT: 00:01:03

I'm just gonna put that out there.

JT: 00:01:04

You have to kind of reach out to Chris or me, and we'll.

JT: 00:01:07

And we'll fill you in.

JT: 00:01:09

But I was surprised that any.

JT: 00:01:14

That you were a.

JT: 00:01:16

Your character was a biker.

JT: 00:01:17

I was just.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:20

I was surprised at that too.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:22

Of all the things that Keith could have made me, I.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:24

I would have never gone down the path would be a motorcycle gang leader.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:29

But, you know, hey, maybe I look the part.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:32

I don't know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:32

I.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:32

I don't think I do.

JT: 00:01:33

I don't think so.

JT: 00:01:34

I mean, we're not the Sons of Anarchy.

JT: 00:01:36

We're kind of the Sons of Advil at this point, you know?

JT: 00:01:42

Oh, exactly.

JT: 00:01:44

Okay.

JT: 00:01:44

So you ready for this?

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:46

No, I'm not.

JT: 00:01:48

Oh, this is.

JT: 00:01:49

Is piece of cake, buddy.

JT: 00:01:50

Trust.

JT: 00:01:51

Trust me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:53

Famous last words.

JT: 00:01:54

Famous last words.

JT: 00:01:55

Okay, we'll start with something easy.

JT: 00:01:57

Okay.

Chris Mascaro: 00:01:58

Oh, thank you.

JT: 00:01:59

If you could play around a golf with one of your golfing heroes, who would it be?

JT: 00:02:04

They don't have to be on this side of the dirt anymore, you know, but we could bring them back for around 18 with you.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:13

So that's.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:13

That's tough because there's so many.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:15

But.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:15

But my golf idol growing up was Jack Nicklaus.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:18

So if I'm gonna pick one, yeah, it would be Jack.

JT: 00:02:21

Okay.

JT: 00:02:22

And if you could get a lesson from one touring pro, who might that be?

JT: 00:02:27

That's somebody still on the tour right now.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:31

So I'm a huge Jordan Spieth fan, and I marvel at his wedge game and his short game and the things that he is able to pull off with a wedge or pitching, you know, whether it's pitching, wedge, sandwich, whatever it is in his hands, the shots that he is able to rescue himself from, some of the places that he puts himself right, I think are astounding.

Chris Mascaro: 00:02:51

So I would love to get a short game lesson from Jordan Spieth.

JT: 00:02:54

Yeah, I think he's just.

JT: 00:02:58

Now, nobody yell at me.

JT: 00:02:59

I think he's just one notch below Tiger.

JT: 00:03:02

He's worked and developed and that.

JT: 00:03:06

hat it was at Chambers Bay in: 2015

JT: 00:03:10

But I'm just saying, to me, Tiger was the best with the short game and miracle shots, but I think Jordan is right behind him.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:19

Yep.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:19

I would agree with that assessment.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:20

I think you're right.

JT: 00:03:21

Okay, Chris, if you were declared Supreme Leader of golf for one day, just one day, but what would you decree as supreme leader?

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:33

So there's a.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:35

Do I only get one, or can I.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:36

Can I give you a couple of things?

JT: 00:03:38

I'll let you go, too.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:39

All right, so I.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:41

I would decree that if your ball lands in a divot in the fairway, that you get a free drop.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:47

I hate that rule.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:49

That you could actually go out there and hit a wonderful drive and find yourself in a vacated divot.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:54

Now.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:55

Now, from a great shot.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:56

It's a terrible shot, and you have to try to recover from that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:03:59

So.

JT: 00:04:00

Right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:04:00

I would say you get a free drop from that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:04:02

And like we talked about in the.

Chris Mascaro: 00:04:03

In the regular show, you know what?

Chris Mascaro: 00:04:04

It's time to put the slacks away, fellas.

Chris Mascaro: 00:04:06

Let's put shorts on, and let's go have some fun.

JT: 00:04:09

I agree.

JT: 00:04:10

My shorts used to be.

JT: 00:04:11

I didn't really put shorts on until June.

JT: 00:04:14

Nobody cares about this, because if you've seen my legs, you'd really know that nobody cares about this.

JT: 00:04:19

But the point being is now I start wearing them in April, and I don't take them off till almost the first of November.

JT: 00:04:26

And then when you.

JT: 00:04:27

When you put your pants back on, your long pants, it's like, oh, that feels stupid.

JT: 00:04:30

Yes.

JT: 00:04:31

I will tell you a quick story, Chris.

JT: 00:04:34

Couple three weeks ago, my wife and I went for our anniversary.

JT: 00:04:36

We took few days off, went over to central Oregon.

JT: 00:04:39

It's very beautiful there.

JT: 00:04:42

Played golf at a course I'd never played before with these three retired guys.

JT: 00:04:46

And these guys were regulars.

JT: 00:04:48

I mean, three, four days a week regulars, but they had their own set of rules, which was fun and funny.

JT: 00:04:56

But the first one, that really got to me, and I'll tell you this one, couple of them went in the trap, and they looked at each other and go, well, you go check.

JT: 00:05:04

Okay?

JT: 00:05:04

He goes over there.

JT: 00:05:05

Pretty soon you see both balls flying out the middle of the freeway.

JT: 00:05:09

And I looked at him, he goes, we call that ground under repair.

JT: 00:05:17

So I'm looking forward.

JT: 00:05:18

Kind of like your divot rule I'm looking forward to the day when I retire and I can make up my own rules.

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:22

There you go.

JT: 00:05:23

And these guys played fast.

JT: 00:05:25

These guys played fast.

JT: 00:05:26

Okay.

JT: 00:05:30

Do you have a favorite golf book?

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:32

A favorite golf book?

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:36

I, I tell you one that I refer back to a bunch is one that Gary Player wrote, and it's in, it's titled Don't Choke.

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:44

I find that there's a lot of good advice that he gives in that book about, you know, how uptight we tend to get out on a golf course.

JT: 00:05:51

Right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:52

I, you know, I refer back to that if I'm going to be playing in an event.

Chris Mascaro: 00:05:56

He's got some good sniglets that, that I try to keep top of mind.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:00

But I would say that's probably my favorite golf book.

JT: 00:06:03

There you go.

JT: 00:06:04

Do you remember the first time you ever picked up a golf club?

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:08

I don't.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:09

I, I certainly remember.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:10

Ken Friend was the, the pro that taught me at a, at a place called Tides Country Club.

JT: 00:06:18

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:19

In Seminole, Florida, as a local municipal golf course.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:24

He gave me lessons.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:25

I was 12 years old.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:28

I don't remember.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:29

I, I, I certainly remember my first parents.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:31

It was on a par three.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:33

I'd, I had, you know, hit a bad tee shot.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:35

I'd gotten it up, up onto the green and, and made a pretty lengthy putt.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:40

I'm sure by accident that, and walked away with the three.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:43

That was my first par.

Chris Mascaro: 00:06:45

And from, from that point on, I was pretty much hooked.

JT: 00:06:47

Oh, yeah?

JT: 00:06:48

Yeah.

JT: 00:06:49

Mine was, I'd played some in high school, was in college.

JT: 00:06:55

I was on Christmas break in Arizona because I work for some people in Arizona.

JT: 00:07:02

I'd go back and forth between LA and back.

JT: 00:07:06

I had my first credit card and I bought a set of Golden Bears.

JT: 00:07:13

Nice new bag.

JT: 00:07:15

I never could hit persimmon worth a damn, but they were there in this.

JT: 00:07:20

And we're playing golf in, in, I think the Scottsdale Country Club or something.

JT: 00:07:25

Didn't really matter.

JT: 00:07:26

But I hit this three iron so pure that everybody was kind of a couple of yards ahead of me.

JT: 00:07:32

And they were.

JT: 00:07:33

And they looked at me and they said, what was that?

JT: 00:07:36

And I just remember that ball just taken off like a rocket and probably 80ft in the air.

JT: 00:07:43

I'm not embellishing.

JT: 00:07:44

And it just went.

JT: 00:07:46

And I knew then that I love this game.

JT: 00:07:49

I've never hit a shot like that since, but I love this game.

Chris Mascaro: 00:07:54

I'm with you.

Chris Mascaro: 00:07:55

There are a lot of shots I hit as a kid that I, I couldn't do today.

JT: 00:07:58

So, yeah, absolute.

JT: 00:08:01

Chris, if we Put your skills to music, what would the music be?

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:05

Oh, my golf skills to music.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:10

That's a good question.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:12

Never thought about that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:14

I.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:14

I would guess if you're asking me right now, what would it be?

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:17

It would be classic rock.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:18

Right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:19

It's good.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:20

It's old.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:21

It's not like it used to be.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:24

Right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:24

It's, you know, they don't, they don't do that anymore.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:28

It's probably like an old vinyl 33 and a third, right?

JT: 00:08:31

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:31

It doesn't quite sound as pure as it.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:34

As it did when it first came out, so I would say I'm probably a classic rock album.

JT: 00:08:39

There you go.

JT: 00:08:40

There you go.

JT: 00:08:42

If you could have dinner with a historical figure, doesn't have to be in the golf world, who would it be and what would be on the menu?

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:54

Oh, what would be on the menu?

JT: 00:08:56

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:57

Okay.

JT: 00:08:57

You know, I'm kind of a culinary guy, so.

Chris Mascaro: 00:08:59

Yeah.

JT: 00:09:00

Yeah, I gotta get that in there.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:02

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:03

Who.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:04

A historical figure.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:05

Who would.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:06

I want to sit down.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:06

Look, I've been fascinated my whole life, and this, this occurred before I was even born, but I've been fascinated my whole life with John F.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:14

Kennedy.

JT: 00:09:15

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:15

And obviously the assassination and all that sort of thing.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:18

So that's been something that I've read a ton about over the years and all that sort of thing.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:22

I'd.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:23

I'd kind of want to sit down with, you know, have dinner with him and, and understand what he was going for.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:28

I mean, everybody's got their own opinion for what he was trying to do and what he wanted to do and what he would have done and all that sort of thing.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:36

I guess I would have liked to have picked his brain over dinner to understand truly what he was going for, what would be on the menu.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:44

Since, you know, he's a Massachusetts guy and I spent a number of years living up on the south shore of Massachusetts.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:52

We'd have, you know, lobster would certainly be on the menu.

JT: 00:09:55

Oh, yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:09:55

All the, all the fixings around that.

JT: 00:09:57

Oh, yeah.

JT: 00:09:58

Well, that's a have to.

JT: 00:10:00

That's a have to.

JT: 00:10:01

We were doing shows up there, oh, 30 years ago or more, and the week in between, they were kind of back to back shows.

JT: 00:10:12

My buddy and I and his future wife living in the Pacific Northwest, we get a lot of fish.

JT: 00:10:19

Okay.

JT: 00:10:20

We have great beef and all that, but we also get a lot of seafood.

JT: 00:10:24

My buddy Bruce, he was living in Oklahoma at the time.

JT: 00:10:29

They don't get a lot of seafood there.

JT: 00:10:31

You know, I think he had lobster twice a day for like 10 days straight.

JT: 00:10:39

I'm surprised his ears, you know, didn't get the gout or something like that, but I'm just saying.

JT: 00:10:44

But I'd never seen anybody eat that much.

JT: 00:10:46

And I love lobster, but, you know, I don't like to eat the same thing every meal.

JT: 00:10:50

He did, he did.

JT: 00:10:53

What's the biggest mistake you've ever made on the air doing a show?

JT: 00:11:01

Do tell.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:02

Yeah, there's a couple of things that immediately come to mind.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:07

I'm not going to tell you who they are, but on the football side, I had a guy on the show, we had a guy on the show that kind of went down a racist path and I couldn't believe.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:22

It was very early on in our show and I was so stunned and so taken aback.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:29

I didn't know what to do after that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:32

I didn't know how to recover from it.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:34

Didn't know how to let this guy kind of, you're crazy.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:40

This is wrong.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:41

I can't believe you said that, you know, and really get into a confrontational thing and how to steer away.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:48

That was a tough one for me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:11:51

ff through, I believe was the: 1983

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:13

And they proceeded to kind of walk us through how and why they threw that game because they started making defensive play calls that they had never, they hadn't practiced since preseason.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:24

Guys didn't know what they were supposed to do, what their assignments were.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:28

They were confused.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:30

The Raiders started going up and down the field.

JT: 00:12:33

Wow.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:34

Yeah, that was, that was a pretty startling accusation that, that, that Seahawks coaching staff through the game for the Raiders because that's what the NFL wanted.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:45

They didn't want the, the young Seattle Seahawks at the time.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:48

Again, you know, early 80s, they had only been a team for, for a little over half dozen years.

Chris Mascaro: 00:12:53

They came in the league in 76 and they, you know, the NFL wanted the LA Raiders in the super bowl, not the Seattle Seahawks.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:00

So this is what happened.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:02

And I was like, wow, okay, yeah.

JT: 00:13:04

I've heard stories like that.

JT: 00:13:05

But I never, I never gave him much credence.

JT: 00:13:09

You know, sometimes it's just a ticked off player, you know, venting a little bit.

JT: 00:13:13

But that would, that would.

JT: 00:13:14

Made me go, huh, you know?

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:16

Yeah, yeah.

JT: 00:13:22

What's one thing you miss about your 20s, Chris, besides the aches and pains?

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:28

Yeah.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:29

I'm just gonna say, you're talking about the Advil days.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:32

I, I, I miss, I miss two things about it.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:35

One, I wasn't in constant joint pain all over my body, and two, I could eat whatever I wanted, and it, you know, didn't seem to amount to any weight gain.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:43

I could do it.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:44

You know, those things were.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:46

Life was good from a physical perspective back then, so I, I certainly missed that, you know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:52

And now, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm 58 years old.

Chris Mascaro: 00:13:56

I've got three wonderful children that are all in their mid to late 20s.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:00

And, you know, back in my 20s, I mean, I, the only thing I was responsible for was me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:06

So, you know, now you've got a lot of responsibilities to a lot of people.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:09

And so that's, you know, that's a very big, you know, different part of life.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:14

Back then, you did what you wanted, when you wanted, how you wanted, all that sort of stuff, and it didn't hurt when you did it.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:19

Now, not so much.

JT: 00:14:21

Yeah, that is true.

JT: 00:14:22

If I did today what I did back then, I, I probably wouldn't be able to leave the house for a week, you know, and that would just be one day, you know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:33

Yeah, that's the danger.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:34

Because sometimes in my head, you know, I'm still 30, you know, years old, right?

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:38

I still think I'm 30 years old until I start to do whatever it is I thought I could do.

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:42

And then I realized, you know, as, as Rocky Balboa, you know, said, you know, you ain't as young as springtime no more, you know, that's, you know.

JT: 00:14:53

What'S the, what's the hardest part of your job?

Chris Mascaro: 00:14:56

My day job or doing the show?

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:00

Let's say your, your show, the hardest part, you know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:05

I don't know, Jeff.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:07

That's, that's an interesting question, because, look, I, I try to pride myself on doing a lot of research.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:13

I get up very early in the mornings, you know, every, every day, and I'm.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:16

And I spend, you know, a couple hours, you know, combing through things because I want to know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:21

I don't want to know the easy stuff, you know.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:23

Hey, what'd you think about the tournament this past weekend?

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:25

I mean, you know, everybody asked that question.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:28

Anybody can go on anybody's show and get that answer, you know, that to me, that's not interesting.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:33

That's doing somebody else's show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:35

So I like to find out the details, you know, I, I comb through almanacs, I go back to their, you know, college days and, you know, look at the, you Know the media guides and all that stuff.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:47

And so I try to, you know, ask, you know, those kind of questions.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:49

So it's, it's, you know, it's tough.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:51

You go through it, you got to read, you know, you read a lot of stuff to try to find some, you know, some good questions to ask right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:57

Back in the day.

Chris Mascaro: 00:15:58

But, you know, by the same time.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:00

Is that the hard part?

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:01

Yeah, but that's, you know, that's why I do the show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:03

And I don't bemoan the fact that I, that I do that or have to do that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:08

I don't have to.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:09

I do because, you know, I want to ask the guys and the gals, you know, interesting questions that, that I would want to know, not just, you know, some of the recent stuff.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:18

So that's, that's hard.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:20

It's kind, it's time consuming.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:21

It's early in the morning when I could probably be getting an extra hour or two of sleep.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:25

But by the same token, I think that's what makes the show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:16:29

So if I didn't want to do that, I shouldn't be doing what I'm doing.

JT: 00:16:32

I will, I will tell you this and this, this, not to try to compare myself to you in any way, shape or form, but what I, I had a compliment three, four months ago when people send me a book to whether it's on the cooking side of what I do or the golf side, I actually read it.

JT: 00:16:54

I read the book.

JT: 00:16:55

I don't just take, you know, I worked in TV a long time and they, you know, one of the junior producers will take the talking points from the PR person, try to formulate a question that's the same question, but maybe with a little spin on it.

JT: 00:17:11

And nine times out of 10, the host has never read the book.

JT: 00:17:15

My thing is, if you've contacted me and said, I, you know, I'd like to send you a book, would you be interesting?

JT: 00:17:23

Yeah.

JT: 00:17:23

If I say yes, then I owe you the respect to.

JT: 00:17:27

Because I said okay to read your material.

JT: 00:17:30

And, and you and I both know how this stuff works.

JT: 00:17:35

But I think that's, and the, and one of my guests said, sent me an email afterwards.

JT: 00:17:40

He said, I really appreciated being on your show and I really appreciated the fact that you knew what was in the book.

JT: 00:17:46

You know, not just the talking points, but you had, like you said, you have to do the research and get down to the minutiae of things.

JT: 00:17:54

And sometimes you can find one or two quotes in that book that, or, or, you know, declarative Sentences or whatever, that you can kind of separate that person's thoughts and make them think when you're talking to them.

JT: 00:18:09

So anyway, yeah, that's awesome.

JT: 00:18:12

I think that's the.

JT: 00:18:13

I actually think that's one of the fun things about this job.

JT: 00:18:16

What's the worst movie you've ever watched?

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:19

The worst movie I've ever watched was Pink Floyd, the Wall.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:24

You know, back in the day when you used to, you know, midnight movies.

JT: 00:18:27

Right, right.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:27

Go.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:28

Go to those things.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:29

And I remember going in college, my.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:31

My roommate was a huge Pink Floyd fan.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:34

I became a Pink Floyd fan.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:36

But I want.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:37

We went to see at the midnight theater, the Wall.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:40

And that was one of the only movies I've ever wanted to get up and walk out of.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:45

I thought, you gotta be kidding me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:47

This.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:48

This is the movie shaving off his eyebrows and gotta be kidding me.

JT: 00:18:55

Oh, yeah, no, I'm out.

Chris Mascaro: 00:18:57

That was the worst movie I've ever seen.

JT: 00:18:59

Who's been your biggest influence on you personally?

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:03

Well, I mean, that can go in a bunch of different directions.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:07

I mean, I've got two of the most wonderful parents that God ever gave to a kid, and I'm so blessed with my mom and my dad, and they've been wonderful supporters of me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:18

No matter what I did at any point in time in my life, whether I deserved to be supported or not, they.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:23

They hung with me on those sorts of things.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:25

So they would be my first answer.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:29

Outside of that, who.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:30

Who has influenced me?

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:31

I've been influenced in.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:33

In this.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:33

Doing this show by a lot of different people, a lot of wonderful people over the course of the years that aside and.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:41

And gave me some pointers.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:42

I remember Bill Hillgrove, who is the radio voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers, has been for over 50 years on the football side.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:50

And when I was first starting out, I leaned on him.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:53

I got to have him on the show, and I asked him if he would mentor me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:19:57

And he gave me a lot of really good tips over those first few years about what to do and what not to do and that sort of thing.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:04

So he was a huge influence on me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:09

A lot of the, you know, Bob Lazzari is my co host on the football side.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:13

Bob has been in and in the media for.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:17

For decades up there in Connecticut.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:19

I learned an awful lot from.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:20

From listening and watching what Bob does.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:23

And then, you know, the.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:25

The historical greats that I watch, you know, whether it's on YouTube or wherever I can find stuff, you know, the Bob Costas of the world.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:33

And, you know, how do they interview people.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:34

What, what's their style?

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:36

How do they go about conducting an interview and conducting themselves during the course of an interview?

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:42

So I try to look at, you know, all those folks and maybe I get a little bit of piece of, of all of them and put it together.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:51

So I, I would say those folks for sure.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:54

And then look, I've been lucky enough to have so many legends on both shows.

Chris Mascaro: 00:20:59

Oh yeah, and, and even getting to talk to some of the legends and just listening to how they conduct themselves.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:05

Look, Rocky Blair has been a huge part of our show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:10

On Thursday night, tailgate, he's in our guest hall of fame.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:12

Rocky's been on the show a bunch and Rocky has done, you know, a one man show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:16

And he, to me, Rocky is the greatest storyteller ever.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:21

I mean, I could listen to rock tell a story about anything and it's, it's both funny and interesting.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:28

So, you know, I kind of, I kind of listen, you know, intently to folks on how they do their things and then look, you know, for, for guys like you and me doing this and I, you know, you've been so kind to have me on your show a few times.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:44

And I try to, you know, pay attention to, you know, how you do things and how some of the other folks that, you know, you talk about, whether it's the, the GNN mafia or the golf mafia or whatever.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:55

But I try to look at how other people, you know, do things a little bit.

Chris Mascaro: 00:21:59

And you know, I mean, I try to constantly learn, because, look, I learned very early on, Jeff, on both shows, nobody cares what Chris Mascara thinks about anything.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:10

A, nobody knows who Chris Mascara is, and B, they don't care what he thinks about anything.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:15

It's all about what my guests think.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:17

That's why they decided to tune in that day, right?

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:19

They saw the guest list.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:20

Oh, I want to hear what Mark Calcavecchia says.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:23

I wonder what he thought about the, the, you know, the 89 Open Championship, you know, and so I know that's why they're tuning in.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:32

So I try the best I can to ask short questions and get long answers.

Chris Mascaro: 00:22:37

I feel like my show is best when I talk very little, so.

JT: 00:22:42

And I agree with you, not because, not about you talking, but those are the best shows.

JT: 00:22:47

You know, sometimes I get a tendency to run on a little bit, but I try to make the guests think a little bit.

JT: 00:22:54

And once they get comfortable and open up, then I, I just sit back and take us to break, you know.

JT: 00:23:03

Okay, Chris, last question.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:05

Okay.

JT: 00:23:08

What would your meal.

JT: 00:23:09

What Would your meal, last meal be, I should say, if you were on death row?

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:15

Well, you know, I'm.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:16

I'm obviously Italian, so I have, you know, a great propensity for Italian food.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:21

I mean, I'm a huge spaghetti and meatballs guy.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:24

I'm an eggplant parmesan guy.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:26

You know, those are.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:28

Those are the things.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:28

If I only had one meal to get, you know, to eat, I'd say, you know, give me.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:32

Give me eggplant Parmesan with a side of spaghetti.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:34

That's.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:35

That's.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:35

Send me off with that.

JT: 00:23:37

You could have a little.

JT: 00:23:39

Little ice cream afterwards, though.

JT: 00:23:41

Little gelato.

JT: 00:23:42

Little gelato to go out the door with.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:44

That's right.

JT: 00:23:45

Chris Moscuero, thank you, buddy, for being on the show.

JT: 00:23:48

I always appreciate your time.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:50

Well, I can't thank you enough for wanting me to come back on the show.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:53

I appreciate you having the thought of.

Chris Mascaro: 00:23:55

Let me ask Chris.

JT: 00:23:56

Yeah.

JT: 00:23:57

Well, I'll tell you what, Doors open anytime for you.

JT: 00:24:00

I don't say that to everybody, so a lot of them, I probably wouldn't say it to again, but for you, yes.

JT: 00:24:06

All right, Chris, thank you.

JT: 00:24:08

We're going to get out of here, everybody.

JT: 00:24:09

Have a good week.

JT: 00:24:10

Go play some golf.

JT: 00:24:11

Check out Chris's shows next on the T.

JT: 00:24:15

And then coming up, the tailgate Thursday night tailgate show, six, eight weeks from now, something like that.

Chris Mascaro: 00:24:23

That's right.

JT: 00:24:24

That's right.

JT: 00:24:24

Yeah.

JT: 00:24:24

Okay, we'll do that.

JT: 00:24:26

I'm still going to be doing this, and we'll keep you informed.

JT: 00:24:29

What a live broadcast we're doing up in Tennessee in about three weeks.

JT: 00:24:33

And then how this show is going to television right after the first year.

JT: 00:24:39

So for Chris and myself, we thank you for listening.

JT: 00:24:42

I hope you had a good time.

JT: 00:24:43

Go out there, play some golf, be kind and take care, everybody.