In this Coaching Masters episode of COACHED, I, Coach Keren Eldad (PCC), sit down with one of my true heroes: Dr. Gay Hendricks – psychologist, teacher, and author of classics like The Big Leap, Conscious Loving, Five Wishes, Conscious Luck, and his new memoir, Loving Life.
For over 50 years, Gay has helped millions of people (myself included) break free from hidden limits on their happiness and success, step into their Zone of Genius, and create relationships where honesty, responsibility, and creativity replace blame and hiding.
In this conversation, Gay takes us behind the scenes of his life: from his spectacularly dysfunctional Southern family and 300-pound, chain-smoking twenties… to the fall on the ice that dropped him into pure consciousness… to meeting Ram Dass, starting a daily meditation practice in 1972, and building a body of work that has changed how we think about success, love, and luck.
We talk about what really blocks our happiness (hello, Upper Limit Problem), what it actually takes to live in your genius zone, and how he and his wife Kathlyn have sustained 44+ years of conscious partnership.
If you’re ready to stop self-sabotaging, claim your genius, and love more fully from wherever you are – this episode is a masterclass.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Gay’s origin story & the fall that changed everything
- Growing up in Leesburg, Florida, in a loud, opinionated, “perfect for a future therapist” family
- His mother’s “on a dare” run for mayor, and the grandparents who barely spoke for decades
- Being the only obese kid in a skinny family, diet pills in 9th grade, and toxic early relationships
- The ice fall at 24 that opened a window into pure consciousness – and why he committed to finding his way back there
Meditation, happiness, and a hotel room in rotten-egg spa town
- How a Ram Dass lecture and a paperback in a grocery store doorway gave him a path
- Starting a daily meditation practice in 1972 (and never missing a day since)
- The New Zealand flu story: being desperately ill, reeking sulfur, and discovering a layer of happiness that circumstances couldn’t touch
- Why he says our “true home” is not ecstasy or achievement, but the quiet field of pure being
The Upper Limit Problem & Zone of Genius
- The moment he noticed himself sabotaging weight-loss progress with a giant sundae in Harvard Square
- How we unconsciously cap our happiness and success because we’re “allergic” to feeling too good
- The four classic ways we upper-limit: worry, criticism, accidents/illness, and conflict
- The Zone of Genius: the sweet spot where what you most love to do is what most serves the world
- Moving from 10% genius time to 100% – and why Gay hasn’t done anything outside his Zone of Genius in 25 years
Conscious Loving & creating relationships where no one has to hide
- Realizing the problem wasn’t “out there”: “It’s an inside job. My job is to figure out who I am and what I want in love.”
- The three foundations he committed to before meeting Kathlyn: radical honesty, ownership instead of blame, and shared respect for creativity
- How Conscious Loving went from living-room groups to a major book deal and an Oprah appearance
- Why “nobody ever blames their way to happiness or enlightenment”
Luck, intention, and what’s next
- The ninth-grade decision to “be one of the lucky ones” – and the coin-collector story that followed
- Why he says if you’re still stuck, you likely haven’t made a deep enough commitment yet
- His original birthday wish – “eternal happiness for everyone, including me” – and why it still stands
- Gay’s newest project: an AI-powered coaching portal to support coaches and clients in real time
Resources & Links
📚 Explore Gay’s work:
📘 Read GILDED by Coach Keren Eldad: https://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Breaking-Ambition-Perfectionism-Relentless/dp/B0DXRK5FLL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OPCX1FARYF63&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.njD5L0Nd6doDLQVmo_4wtVKk_-HS5-aTOZ4Oq3LQXIfLe_2B_B22PN1Jz1vUr3hsQGkARRYSBSM38bgnhX_woQ.4cDO6ga9zTbytHLae6dqqbmCUB7zBWQN3Vujzi4uQ1Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=gilded+keren&qid=1764085054&sprefix=gilded+keren%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1
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Connect with Coach Keren:
- Website: www.KerenEldad.com
- Instagram: Instagram.com/KerenEldad
- GILDED: Break Free From the Cage of Ambition, Perfectionism, and the Relentless Pursuit of More: https://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Breaking-Ambition-Perfectionism-Relentless/dp/B0DXRK5FLL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OPCX1FARYF63&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.njD5L0Nd6doDLQVmo_4wtVKk_-HS5-aTOZ4Oq3LQXIfLe_2B_B22PN1Jz1vUr3hsQGkARRYSBSM38bgnhX_woQ.4cDO6ga9zTbytHLae6dqqbmCUB7zBWQN3Vujzi4uQ1Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=gilded+keren&qid=1764085054&sprefix=gilded+keren%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-1
🎧 Listen to COACHED on:
- Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dr-gay-hendricks-the-big-leap-into-your-genius-zone/id1467079024?i=1000740814844
- Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/0KTTsqkF9vtdQAQezmjLjb?si=6d0821d325714915
📺 Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Zdsi6Dq4s3A
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