The episode (7 minutes) was recorded at 1500 Central European Time, on March 24, 2023, with Ringr app.. Martin did the editing and post-production with the podcast maker, Alitu. The transcript is generated by Alitu.
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(00:00) Presentation (Skills) Q&A Artwork
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(00:25) The Robot
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(01:00) Update the Copyright Laws!
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(03:23) Cogwheel
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(04:15) Reference to the Source?
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(05:15) Freedom of Expression!
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(06:40) Read the Transcript!
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(07:04) Carina and Martin
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(07:17) Outro with Artwork
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Transcripts
Martin:
Welcome to Presentation Skills Q and A. I am Martin Lindesco.
Martin:
Hi, Karina.
Carina:
Hi Martin.
Carina:
How are you today?
Martin:
Good. Have you become a robot?
Carina:
No, I'm fine.
Martin:
You're talking to Martin the robots?
Carina:
I'm talking it to Martin the robot.
Carina:
Last time we were talking about AI.
Martin:
Yes.
Carina:
And that episode generated some questions, very interested questions, I should
Carina:
say.
Carina:
I have heard about this, how AI could be a
Carina:
tool to avoid the copyright laws.
Carina:
For example.
Martin:
To avoid them, or to, how do you say go against them?
Martin:
Or maybe they should be updated, the copyright laws.
Carina:
Yes, of course they has to be updated, but today they aren't.
Carina:
So I think it's how do you say evade the copyright laws.
Martin:
Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's my thought about that.
Martin:
If you're doing a presentation in one way or another and take material from a robot that
Martin:
you have asked them the question, it's you that creating the question.
Martin:
But the answer is there, out there somewhere on the net, because they don't make it up.
Martin:
The robot can't create something in that way.
Martin:
They could fetch information if we could put
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it together in a nice way so it's already there, but then you could say the robot have
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curated it.
Martin:
And then I wonder where do you see?
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How do you say the resources or link to the resource?
Martin:
Do you get that? If you do, like chat with the popular openi
Martin:
chat GPT? Yeah.
Martin:
Do you get that this text is generated from these and these and these sources?
Carina:
No, you don't?
Martin:
Okay. Where you have an issue then yes.
Carina:
You can say that the AI takes and chat GPT takes all the information in a topic and
Carina:
puts it all together.
Carina:
So the information has already been found.
Martin:
But not the reference.
Martin:
Not the source.
Martin:
Direct source?
Carina:
No, not the references.
Carina:
I read an article and an interview with a
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woman called Christina Weinnika and she's a policy expert.
Carina:
How do you say property rights in some way.
Carina:
And the question she was asked was can I use
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AI and generated text anyway? So do I have to have the copyright and think
Carina:
about the copyright? Or could I just take the text or the picture
Carina:
or whatever? And you know what the answer was?
Martin:
No.
Carina:
It was yes.
Martin:
Yeah. And I would say that, but for myself I would always say where is it coming
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from? If you know it to say that this is generated
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by a robot or something.
Martin:
I haven't tested it yet, so I'm getting
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curious to do it.
Martin:
But I would probably also generate it text.
Martin:
I will see what the robot knows about myself and about me and see what they are saying.
Martin:
Like a bio, it could give inspiration, but then I will double check it and triple check
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it and so on.
Carina:
And that's why it's important in this way that you give the right information.
Carina:
So how do you say fool around? Because as long as the text is created by a
Carina:
machine and it is, you can argument about it.
Carina:
But if it's a human being is involved, then
Carina:
you have to look at the copyright thing.
Martin:
Yeah, and there are humans that have created the content in the first place and I
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have created the content by asking a question.
Martin:
So it's similar to when you do a Google
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search.
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You create the question but it pop up answers
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and there you have the reference directly to the source.
Martin:
So this got me thinking in the future you have to get some do you get any kind of like
Martin:
timestamp or you created this or generated this question and got these answers so you
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could refer back to that or do you have to do the question again the next time you want to?
Carina:
No you have a history, you have been searched but could you share it with others?
Martin:
For example, if we have now generated about a topic about this episode because maybe
Martin:
we have asked the robot what we will talk about, could we then refer to where we found
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this answer, so to speak, from a robot, no references.
Carina:
Okay it's this gray zone, should I say?
Martin:
Yeah, the gray area but I see as long the market would be free and we are free to
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express ourselves, it will be taken care of in one way or another so that's fascinating,
Martin:
interesting.
Martin:
So with this and we talked about last episode
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also about how I'm using this technology.
Martin:
And one example is transcript.
Martin:
Yes, so that's generate and listen to our voices and put it together and then you could
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edit it.
Martin:
Yourself.
Martin:
And I write that it's generated by this tool, all the two.
Martin:
So you could get constructive feedback on that and so on.
Carina:
But it's also and there, you see, that's a help.
Carina:
That's help for our listeners, for example.
Martin:
And you have also to say same as it is early stage in a way so you have to be aware
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of that and give it some time also and it will be better and better and talking about that my
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call to action here is to download a new podcast app on newpodcastapps.com or the
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shorter version, the URL, is Podcastapps.com.
Martin:
And there you will find several different new
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podcast apps that you could use in order to listen to our podcast and then also give us
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feedback with a digital telegram and send a donation for example.
Martin:
And could be reading feedback.
Martin:
Yeah, feedback and you could read transcripts
Martin:
and so on so that could be something to look out for.
Carina:
Yes, this is a very interesting topic, I should say and we will return to it.
Carina:
We have so many articles to go through and read and people have thoughts and ideas about
Carina:
it and in the.
Martin:
Future we could put two robots here or parrots that could mimic us.
