Maintaining mental health is easier when you have an actionable plan and a toolbox of resources. In Episode 5, Part 2 of 2 of Finding Your Balance: A Mental Health Podcast presented by Peace River Center and Southeastern University, Kirk and Tiffani share helpful tips to guide you through minding the basics for optimal mental wellness.
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Tiffani:Basics.
Kirk:You know, in the trauma work that I've done with folks we do here in Florida, we
Kirk:encounter a lot of hurricanes as the Gulf Coast and the Eastern Seaboard will
Kirk:experience. But one of the things we talk about or I talk about when preparing for
Kirk:hurricanes is the fact that the act of preparing, the act of planning can help
Kirk:alleviate a lot of anxiety and worry about this thing we can't control, the
Kirk:hurricane. And it's not only good for adults, but also good for children,
Kirk:the young people in our lives. They even have less control and maybe experiencing
Kirk:some feelings they don't even understand. But here's a way to gain some control over
Kirk:an uncontrollable situation and that is preparing and having your own little kit and
Kirk:things like that. So having a routine for your money,
Kirk:for your food, and getting out there and exercising on a regular basis can be very
Kirk:helpful. But then there's also the sleep. Oh, that's the hardest one. That's the
Kirk:hardest one to all, right, because I'm a go, go, go kind of person, and sleep can
Kirk:be telling on a number of levels if you're in its based on your pattern,
Kirk:okay. So if you've got something you're worried about, and if you're going through
Kirk:college, you're a student, there's anxiety there for tests, and the assignments you've
Kirk:got to get completed, So there's that worry and as an adult you got work kind of
Kirk:obligations You've got you know other relationship kind of obligations and things like
Kirk:that sleep is a really good indicator of Where that anxiety is because if you're
Kirk:overly worried about something you don't sleep very well First for a lot of people.
Kirk:There's the opposite of those folks that are trying to avoid certain things. They
Kirk:will want to sleep more So take a look at your sleep pattern. Do you have a
Kirk:regular sleep routine? I love my wife dearly. She is a wonderful sleep routine,
Kirk:and she also has a routine for waking up. I'm not a routine kind of guy when it
Kirk:comes to that, so I admire her for her fortitude with her plan,
Kirk:her routine that she maintains, And she gets herself ready for sleep, and her body
Kirk:knows that, "Okay, we're coming into sleep mode, and things kind of wind down." I'm
Kirk:hit or miss.
Kirk:If I'm being honest, I'm hit or miss. I mean, there are days where I'm go, go,
Kirk:go, go, go, and then all of a sudden I'll crash, and now I go. And then there
Kirk:are other times that I'm just, the mind is taking its time winding down and one of
Kirk:the things that you'll hear a lot from sleep experts is especially nowadays the
Kirk:world of technology that we live in that lovely little screen time got to be
Kirk:careful with that and be mindful of that if your your parents of children that you
Kirk:know get into the screen time you you should really monitor how much screen time
Kirk:they have, 'cause that does disrupt one's sleep routine. And many devices now have a
Kirk:parental control on the amount of time your little ones will watch.
Kirk:And it doesn't even have to be for the little ones, hello, we can set it for
Kirk:ourselves and set up a reminder, okay, I need to slow this down now or I need to
Kirk:stop at a particular time so that the mind can really start to process and shut
Kirk:off and prepare itself for bedtime, for sleep. Well, I think that's why it's so
Tiffani:important. We've talked in other episodes about vicarious trauma and as clinicians or
Tiffani:even just as people having that margin in your day to process out your day because
Tiffani:if we go, go, go, go, go, and there's no margin by the time we go to bed.
Tiffani:Well, that's when you've stopped for the first time all day and that's when it all
Tiffani:hits you. And what we don't want, you know, as people for that to be our
Tiffani:decompression time because that will eat into your sleep, right? Because then it's,
Tiffani:well, I could have done this. I should have said that. What if I had done this?
Tiffani:Would this have been different? And now you're wrestling all of those scenarios alone
Tiffani:because everyone else is - Right. - But also, what are you gonna do? Like,
Tiffani:however, you know, you're stuck now and you can't turn off your brain. And so, one
Tiffani:of the things that I've really had to focus on, and we've talked about this before,
Tiffani:is being intentional about carving out time in your day, you know,
Tiffani:having that garbage can of trauma, like you've mentioned, and dumping it out before
Tiffani:you go home, because whatever you have, you know, on your is going to go home with
Tiffani:you if you don't set it down, and what we don't want, if you're so go, go, go,
Tiffani:if the first time you stop is at night, well, that's absolutely going to impact the
Tiffani:quality of your sleep. Right. So I can hear a lot of people out there going,
Kirk:"Well, you know, I got schoolwork, I got tests coming up, and I got to study," and
Kirk:yep, you're correct, you do. If you plan out some time to say,
Kirk:"I I'm going to study for X number of hours in your time.
Kirk:Plan it, plan it. Being a little bit more mindful of what you're doing can help
Kirk:alleviate a lot of stress and anxiety. And, you know, one of the things I love to
Kirk:do is read. So, and I read a lot, but it doesn't take a a lot of time. I had
Kirk:watched a YouTube video of this gentleman who calculated out,
Kirk:"Look, we have breaking down your day into half -hour increments and taking a look
Kirk:at your time." If you only read for a half -hour a day, you would be surprised at
Kirk:how many books you could And what he did is he's calculated for this person, "Okay,
Kirk:this is your reading rate. And if you read for a half hour every day, you could,
Kirk:and this person could get through war and peace. They could get through Anna Karenina.
Kirk:So in the Count of Monte Cristo and for you in the literature world,
Kirk:you know how daunting some of those books are because they're very long.
Kirk:But and And he has like three other books that people could get through just by
Kirk:reading for a half hour every day. And it's like, wow. And then of course you've
Kirk:got all that experience and knowledge that you get out of the reading. So when you
Kirk:look at that and think about your time management and look at things in half hour
Kirk:increments and look at your studies and what you have to read and do, if you did
Kirk:it in those small chunks that aren't as overwhelming as daunting of a task and
Kirk:break it down simply, you actually get a lot more in and it was kind of amazing
Kirk:because what this person figured out in their reading style was that well,
Kirk:they would only get about 50 books or so and the rest of their lifetime and they
Kirk:calculated it out and it almost tripled the amount of books you could read just by
Kirk:reading for a half hour a day. So I was like, wow, I know I read half hour a
Kirk:day at least on various things. And Variety is also the spice of life.
Kirk:So if you're the type of person that says, "I have to read this book cover to
Kirk:cover and that's the only book I can read," they encourage you to kind of break it
Kirk:up a little bit. Read two or three books at a time and stuff like that. So when
Kirk:you're in college, you are doing that kind of practice because you are reading for
Kirk:this subject and then you're reading for the next subject and for yet a third
Kirk:subject as you're studying. So getting that routine again is pretty important.
Tiffani:Oh, and I think life is just like the art of multitasking, right? Exactly. And the
Tiffani:things that you're juggling are going to vary from time to time. Maybe a job, maybe
Tiffani:children, maybe friendships, relationships, but it's multitasking and figuring out where
Tiffani:am I going to put my energy, where am I going to put my priority, and how do I
Tiffani:shift my energy as it's needed? Because like you've said, you know, several times,
Tiffani:it's good to have the plan, it's good to have the structure. It's also good to
Tiffani:have the understanding that that plan is going to change and that doesn't mean you
Tiffani:fail. That means that your energy is needed over here. One of the things that we
Tiffani:focus and working with children and families is that we encourage parents and
Tiffani:caregivers to communicate a plan to their kids and say,
Tiffani:I start my day every morning with my kids, okay guys, let's talk about our day.
Tiffani:Let's talk about what we're gonna do. So what am I doing? I'm setting expectations.
Tiffani:I'm setting a sense of structure because kids are people and people need a sense of
Tiffani:safety and a sense of security, and I know that I feel better if I think I know
Tiffani:what's coming next. Now what comes next may change, but I feel better when I have
Tiffani:a sense of like, "All right, I know what's ahead of me." There's a sense of
Tiffani:security, a sense of safety, a sense of peace that comes from that, and it makes
Tiffani:you feel like, "Okay, I think I can handle what's next," and you know, kids need
Tiffani:that. And so what I have found is that even when the plan changes,
Tiffani:they are resilient to that change because there's still a sense of structure and
Tiffani:routine and stability with that. And what has happened just over the course of time
Tiffani:is that if there's no plan and no communication and in something changes,
Tiffani:that's when you see really big reactions because it's like, well, this has come out
Tiffani:of a field. Well, it's not 'cause I knew the whole time what we were gonna do,
Tiffani:but you didn't. And so I think having kind of that mindset with college students
Tiffani:and even like young adults of, the plan's gonna change, it will, because there's
Tiffani:factors outside of your control. But come up with some sense of framework. Every
Tiffani:day, you know, I set my calendar. My day has never in the history of my life gone
Tiffani:exactly according to my calendar, but it gives me a sense of structure. And the
Tiffani:other thing, which you may laugh at this, and it's okay if you do, what really
Tiffani:helps my brain, because some days, you know, you can feel like, oh my goodness,
Tiffani:there's no way I'm going to get through all of this. And the goals ahead of you
Tiffani:feels so daunting and so overwhelming that it's like that paralysis that sits in of
Tiffani:like Well, I don't even know where to start. Right. So I'm just going to not
Tiffani:because then I can't mess it up and I just can't right now And so that can be
Tiffani:really overwhelming and then if you if someone does have a sense of you know
Tiffani:anxiety or depression or anything that might affect, you know a fear of,
Tiffani:you know, accomplishing the task at hand, it can really be debilitating. And so one
Tiffani:of the things that I've learned to do that I need is I will make a list.
Tiffani:And even if I know all the things that I need to do, I'll put it in list form
Tiffani:so that I can cross it off. And even if it's something that I just did,
Tiffani:I put it on the list, and then I cross it off. I'm like, yes, one thing done.
Tiffani:And me having Having that visual look at what I've accomplished, but also I'm
Tiffani:putting it on paper and making it tangible. It's not just a million things floating
Tiffani:in my head, which sounds like such a simple thing, but Kirk, that like is a game
Tiffani:changer for me. It is. And the science bears that out because I remember studying
Kirk:in organizational psychology in my undergrad years, that very thing,
Kirk:creating a list and crossing that item off was such a stress reliever for
Kirk:executives. This was in an organization, they had a consultant come in and they
Kirk:observed all these things. Basically what the consultant said is, "Your executives
Kirk:need to create a list and then cross things off." Changed the environment,
Kirk:the stress level,
Kirk:Yeah, yeah, a simple little list. - And you know what, so funny is that the amount
Tiffani:of things didn't change. - Right. - The things themselves didn't change, but my
Tiffani:perspective of the challenge changed. It wasn't like, oh my gosh, all of these
Tiffani:things that I've gotta do versus okay, here's my challenge. I'm gonna get it done
Tiffani:because it's on my list and I have to cross the things off on my list. And so my
Tiffani:perception of the situation changed and that changed everything. Yeah. And I'm going
Kirk:to throw out a caution flag out on that too because some people can make a list
Kirk:and they get a little obsessive about the list itself. And if they don't get to
Kirk:those items, because there will be days, you don't get to something on that list. I
Kirk:live in the world of crisis work, So I make a list and sometimes I get to
Kirk:everything and sometimes I don't get to anything or maybe just a few so The list
Kirk:is there to be that structure to be that organization of okay. What do I do next?
Kirk:Well, there it is Let me do that and then crossing it off such a nice thing one
Kirk:of the things that I Got into and I'm proud to share this that for years I've
Kirk:been trying to really get into journaling because we use it as a tool for therapy
Kirk:and I know it can be a nice way to empty that emotional trash can that I talk
Kirk:about. But I always struggled myself with journaling. And here I am giving advice,
Kirk:try journaling and it'll help. And that you're not doing it yourself. Well, I
Kirk:struggled with it because I would start and then not really continue that momentum
Kirk:with it. Well, I made a much more conscious effort a year,
Kirk:a little over a year ago, to journal. And it didn't have to be anything deep and
Kirk:heavy duty. Oh, I'm just reflecting on life. No, some of it is a little to -do
Kirk:list. Some of it is a bit of my calendar for the day kind of thing and some of
Kirk:it is reflection and thought and such for that moment in time and So I made a
Kirk:conscious effort and learned a little bit of something called bullet journaling many
Kirk:YouTube videos out there and
Kirk:There's a process of course there's some that get really creative and it's a
Kirk:creative outlet for some folks, which is great, and they have all nice little
Kirk:pictures and drawings around their journal, and I'm like, "That's not going to
Kirk:happen." It's time-consuming, but the really essence of doing that kind of journaling
Kirk:was really what attracted me to it, so I stuck to it. Some of it was the learning
Kirk:process for me as well, and being excited about that. I've seen you do it. Is that
Tiffani:where you write the lines in your journal? Yep. Okay. - Yeah, so it's getting a
Kirk:little bit away from the tech world, which for me, it's a little more grounding,
Kirk:and we'll probably talk about grounding in the future YouTube podcast.
Kirk:But for me, it's a little bit of grounding for the day. It helps me focus a
Kirk:little bit, and I create kind of a plan for what I hope to accomplish that day.
Kirk:Again, I don't know always, but you just take those items and you move them to the
Kirk:next day and you get to them. And then eventually you look at that list and say,
Kirk:"Was that really a priority?" And it kind of helps you readjust some prioritization.
Tiffani:Well, I think that like having that grace of like, "What is my best?" And like,
Tiffani:"Your best is going to change depending on the day, depending on the stressors of
Tiffani:that day." Right? The the quality of your best is gonna be different. But having
Tiffani:that grace of did I do my best today or did I do what I could do today? And
Tiffani:that needs to be enough. And I think that so many times we'll have that grace for
Tiffani:other people when they come to us and they say, look, like I'm doing all that I
Tiffani:can do. And then my response is always, okay, you know, let's see what I can do
Tiffani:to help support you. Do we extend that same grace to ourselves or do we immediately
Tiffani:go to gosh you're failing you know of course you mess this up like you're never
Tiffani:gonna get this done and so I think having that positive self-talk is really needed
Tiffani:because you can only do so much and like you said maybe you'll get to the things
Tiffani:on your list maybe those things will slide over till tomorrow no problem but like
Tiffani:you know what we'll get done we'll get done one of the things that that I have
Tiffani:found for my own self-care is that what you need is gonna be different than what
Tiffani:someone else's needs. Kirk and I have a friend that loves to garden and she is
Tiffani:incredible at it, right? You know, it makes beautiful things. I'm like, "Huh, that
Tiffani:seems fun. That brings her a lot of joy. Perhaps I should try such things." And so
Tiffani:I get all these plants and I have the best intention. I need the world to know, I
Tiffani:really do. And then the part of my brain that says, "What are these plants?" It
Tiffani:does not work. And so I've even gone as far as setting a calendar reminder on my
Tiffani:computer and I snooze it because I get busy doing other things. And so that does
Tiffani:not bring me joy. Like, I love the idea of plants. I love when I'm surrounded by
Tiffani:plants. I love having plants in my office. It does not bring me joy to take care
Tiffani:of them. But what I have found that is so therapeutic, which may seem so strange,
Tiffani:is I love doing yard work. Right? So I don't really care about keeping them alive.
Tiffani:And I don't even really care about planting them. But I really enjoy
Tiffani:um, like, uh, like trimming or, you know, um, some things in our yard and pulling
Tiffani:things out. And I don't know all the words because I don't know about plants, but
Tiffani:it was so cathartic doing yard work and seeing something that's so overgrown,
Tiffani:right? And then having a very clear before and after, and I can see what I have
Tiffani:accomplished. And I think so much of what we do during the day, there's not this
Tiffani:immediate gratification of like, okay, I've seen the results of the effort that I've
Tiffani:put into this, because some things take time, and some things are abstract, but for
Tiffani:me, for my self-care, it's so helpful to do something where I see the immediate,
Tiffani:you know, fruits of my labor, whereas like, I feel like with planting things,
Tiffani:like it takes too long, you know, and I don't mind,
Tiffani:you know, sowing the seeds and doing the things in like regular work, but for my
Tiffani:self-care, like, what brings you joy? And everybody's got something different that
Tiffani:brings them joy, and I think it's important, and you owe it to yourself, to keep
Tiffani:trying things. And I know you've mentioned in in prior podcasts, You know within
Tiffani:reason say yes try something, you know go to a club go to a hobby club Go to you
Tiffani:know a sports event try that activity on campus Maybe it's the worst and maybe you
Tiffani:never have to go again But maybe you'll meet someone there that will become your
Tiffani:best friend and it will change the course of your life Because you gave it a shot
Tiffani:because you said yes, and I can tell you when I came to college I knew one person
Tiffani:and she is still a good friend but my best friend I just was randomly placed with
Tiffani:you know she randomly was assigned to my room and we have been in each other's
Tiffani:weddings you know we have been there for each other during you know raising children
Tiffani:and you know one of the best friends of my life And if I hadn't have said yes to
Tiffani:a particular opportunity, I would have missed out on that experience. And I think so
Tiffani:many times we have this fear that holds us back, right? And we don't say yes.
Tiffani:And I'm not saying say yes to everything. Something should be a definite no. But
Tiffani:something just, gosh, like this is your chance to figure out who are you and what
Tiffani:do you need to have joy. And so what a great time, you know, college, especially
Tiffani:early adulthood to figure out, you know, who are you? - Yeah, when I was teaching
Kirk:sociology at one of the colleges, you know, that was something I would tell students
Kirk:is be curious. This is your time to be curious about things and try different
Kirk:things. You know, look at, I mean, college years are the opportunity to,
Kirk:yes, break out on your own but it's also an exciting time for exploration and
Kirk:taking a few risks that you know I'm not really sure about going around that corner
Kirk:well go around that corner a little bit and and see if it works for you and fits
Tiffani:for you and some of the risks are gonna be silly and some of them are gonna be
Tiffani:alive changing I know one of the things that I realized that I loved was I loved
Tiffani:traveling I I went on some mission trips with my school and I had never really done,
Tiffani:you know, a lot of that before and it was so exciting and it was so exciting to
Tiffani:realize, okay, well, this is going to be the cost of the trip and it seems
Tiffani:overwhelming. You break it up into little things and you start working towards it
Tiffani:like what you've said before. I think all of the categories that we've talked about,
Tiffani:the underlying theme is moderation, and planning, and taking a lofty goal and
Tiffani:breaking it down into bite-sized steps that are doable, right, that can be achieved.
Tiffani:But if you look at it, big picture can seem incredibly overwhelming. - Right,
Kirk:absolutely, absolutely. So, you know, and even we're talking about reducing anxiety or
Kirk:reducing stress, but even the planning process It's going to be anxiety producing and
Kirk:stressful because you're you're trying something new for the first time It doesn't
Kirk:have to be perfect. It's your plan. It's not something you're going to necessarily
Kirk:Share with everybody in the world. It's for you. It's for you and make it as
Kirk:flexible and and open as possible For you and and again, you have permission to
Kirk:give yourself forgiveness Because you're you're not always gonna hit everything spot
Kirk:on every day, you know, there'll be days where, yeah, you hit everything and you've
Kirk:got room for more or you don't have room for any of it, so. - Well, and I think
Tiffani:that's where those coping skills come into play of with disappointment, with
Tiffani:excitement, with good days and bad days. How do I regulate? How do I maintain my
Tiffani:balance in a world filled with chaos, right? - Right. when you can't always regulate
Tiffani:the reaction of the people around you and sometimes the reactions are not healthy.
Tiffani:But how can I regulate myself? And there's not one answer, there's a million
Tiffani:different answers, but I think the key is figuring out who you are, figuring out
Tiffani:what do you need to feel safe, what do you need to feel anchored, what do you
Tiffani:need to feel heard and healthy and validated, and that might change depending on
Tiffani:what season you're in, but being willing to ask yourself those questions, because I
Tiffani:know a lot of times we're worried about how can you ask questions that you don't
Tiffani:know to ask, and maybe you've never been in a situation where you have this many
Tiffani:stressors, all at once, and so being willing, like Kirk said, to give yourself
Tiffani:forgiveness, to be new at something and to try and to really figure out what are
Tiffani:my coping skills and maybe the answer is nothing. And so that's the case of saying
Tiffani:okay well now I've got my goal. My goal is to figure out when I'm feeling
Tiffani:frustrated, when I'm feeling overwhelmed, what anchors me? Is it journaling? Is it
Tiffani:taking a walk? Is it a lot of different things? And being intentional about
Tiffani:practicing those skills because the more you practice them the more they're gonna
Tiffani:feel second nature and sometimes you'll even think oh man my reaction wasn't so big
Tiffani:and that's because you are using coping skills and not even realizing that you're
Tiffani:using coping skills. Right exactly exactly so these are some things that you know
Kirk:the minding the basics you know just keep I think the again,
Kirk:the big takeaway is being mindful of it, having some sense of a plan.
Kirk:It doesn't, again, it doesn't have to be perfect. A lot of it's on sticky notes. A
Tiffani:lot of it's on sticky notes. And like part of that minding the basics, that
Tiffani:mindfulness is that self-monitoring, right? We've said many times, your body, your
Tiffani:mind, they're all connected, physical health and mental health merge in a million
Tiffani:different ways. And so when you are feeling frustrated, take a minute and assess,
Tiffani:"Well, how's my body feeling, right? Am I feeling anxious? Am I feeling tingly? Am
Tiffani:I feeling tired?" And really being responsive to what you need because you're going
Tiffani:to know more than anyone else how something's affecting you and just being aware and
Tiffani:realizing that your feelings are valid and instead of pushing them down and
Tiffani:compressing them and ignoring them, acknowledging them, and giving yourself what you
Tiffani:need to feel healthy. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Tiffani:Well, thank you so much for joining us today on our minding all of these things.
Tiffani:Now, as always, if you are local to the Polk, Highlands and Hardee area at any time,
Tiffani:if you would like to reach out for emotional support or If you feel that you or
Tiffani:someone you know is in crisis, you can always reach out to the Peace River Center
Tiffani:Crisis Hotline. It's 863 -519 -3744. Maybe you live outside of our area.
Tiffani:Maybe you live somewhere within the United States and our line is not giving it for
Tiffani:you. You can call the National Suicide Hotline number at 988. As always,
Tiffani:thank you for joining us and we hope to see you next time.
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