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Ep 74 - Case study - Working in a restaurant when you have IBS
Episode 745th November 2024 • IBS Nutrition, Digestion & Gut Health: Inside Knowledge for people with IBS • Anna Mapson IBS nutritionist
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Sophia was fed up with IBS ruining her life, "it's a nightmare!" Over 3 months working with me hear how Sophia was able to:

  • calm down her digestion through adding more food, not cutting out more
  • find the energy to exercise again
  • change her relationship to food so that it wasn't a battleground
  • reduce episodes of diarrhoea, bloating and headaches through diet and lifestyle changes.

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My life is a nightmare.

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This is what Sophia said

to me when we first spoke.

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She was struggling with

bloating, frequent diarrhoea,

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and also wanting to lose weight.

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She felt in a real muddle.

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Working at a restaurant meant she

had a really erratic schedule and

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couldn't plan her food intake.

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Or her working pattern, that was affecting

her sleep and anxiety was pretty high.

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Here, how Sophia got on top of her

symptoms to say by the end of working with

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me over the three month period, I know

what works, I know how to control my IBS.

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So let's hear how Sophia did it.

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Welcome to episode 74 of the Inside

Knowledge podcast for people with IBS.

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I'm Anna Mapson.

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I picked this study today because

I think some of you might be able

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to relate to that opening phrase

that I used at the beginning.

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My life feels like a nightmare.

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You're just going round in circles.

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You don't know what to eat and

yet you have to eat to keep going.

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And when you don't have a regular

pattern of eating and meals and bowel

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habits, it can get real muddling in

terms of understanding your symptoms.

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So she came to see me very

confused, but also very run down.

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When you have high anxiety, And she'd

had anxiety since she was a child.

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You get this chronic kind

of tiredness as well.

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Well, not everyone, but

a lot of people will.

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You feel very exhausted.

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Because if you think physically, your

body, when you're anxious, you're

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holding on to a lot of tension.

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And that is just in itself draining.

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Plus you've got all those repetitive

thoughts and sort of worry circling

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around your head and it can also,

of course, affect your sleep.

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So that was kind of running through

the background of her symptoms.

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But her main digestive problems

were really painful haemorrhoids

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and alternating between

constipation and diarrhoea, but

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much more predominantly diarrhoea.

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So loose stools, type 6 or 7, that

were kind of watery, always mushy.

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And also bloating.

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She felt like everything she

ate was just bloating her.

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Other big problems that Sophia

had was frequent headaches and she

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had water retention in her legs.

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She worked in a restaurant and she had

quite long shifts and she was a waiter.

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So she was running around all

day, going to serve food and

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also working in the kitchens,

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So on her feet a lot.

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And by the end of the day, her legs

would feel quite So she was really

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struggling with that and running

alongside all of this, she was aiming

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to lose a little bit of weight.

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She wanted to feel a

bit better in her body.

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body as well because partly down to

her symptoms, her lack of energy,

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she was not really exercising either.

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So that is where she started.

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She felt like she just wanted to reach

out and get someone to guide her through

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this because just feeling very lost,

confused, and just fed up of her symptoms.

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She just wanted something to change

and thought working with someone

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who dealt with IBS and specialised

in that was what she needed.

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When I first got into the details of

working with Sophia, she completed her

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diet diary, which just shows me what's

a normal week, what she has been eating.

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I noticed that she

wasn't eating breakfast.

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She would have normally a croissant

and coffee on the way to work, or

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she might just have something like

cornflakes with oat milk at home if

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she wasn't going straight into work.

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Because of her different shifts at

work some days she would work quite

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late and then want to sleep in a

little bit more because she needed

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to make up the time, so her breakfast

time was different every day.

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But other times she was doing, a split

shift, where she was doing some work,

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from lunchtime onwards, then have a little

break, and then do the evening shift.

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So very, very hard working person.

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But, overall, as well as not eating

breakfast, she was sometimes skipping

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dinner, and that was because she

would finish quite late and not

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really feel like eating much.

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There was kind of a culture in her

restaurant of not really feeding yourself

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and not really looking after yourself.

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Sometimes the workers used to all

hang out and have a takeaway together.

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But it was always things like pizza or an

Indian takeaway which was quite rich and

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full of, typical IBS triggers like garlic

and, wheat and those kind of things.

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Her diet was also restricted because

she had in the back of her mind

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that she wanted to lose weight.

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So partly she was restricting because

of time and the lack of forward thinking

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which was made worse by her anxiety.

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So it was very hard for her to plan

ahead and think oh what am I going

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to make, what am I going to eat on

Tuesday when I've got that split shift

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at work, I'm going to be out from 12

o'clock to, midnight, a whole 12 hours.

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What am I going to eat?

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It was really hard for

her to plan that ahead.

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And just to think about her

body and what her needs were.

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She struggled to see food as

part of a self care importance.

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Nourishing yourself and eating was

at the bottom of her priority list.

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So, she wanted to get rid of the symptoms,

but she didn't really see eating a

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good, balanced diet and supporting

your body with nutrients was a part

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of that and it's part of self care.

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So, something else we were working on is

actually, what things do you do in your

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life that actually make you feel good?

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Do you ever, you know,

have a nice bath to relax?

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Do you ever buy yourself a nice

hand cream that smells lovely?

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You know, things that

are good for your body.

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that actually help you feel like

you're looking after yourself.

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When people get into this state where

everything's bad, like your digestive

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symptoms are causing you pain and

embarrassment and just feeling very

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uncomfortable all the time, obviously

that can increase anxiety in itself.

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But I sometimes find with people

that you get to this point where

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it's almost like you don't want to.

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to listen to your body anymore

because you've had so many bad

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messages coming from your body.

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There's not been anything really good

coming back to the brain about your

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experience of the world in your body.

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And so kind of dampening all that down and

thinking, well, I just try to minimize it

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and try to live more kind of in my head.

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And I think that was the case for Sophia.

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She was just trying to.

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avoid food because she wanted to lose

weight, but she was also not really

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wanting to trigger the symptoms and

didn't really see the benefits of eating.

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And so on that basis, she

had cut out a lot of carbs.

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Now carbs are something that can

trigger people, especially when

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you eat a lot of bread products.

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So someone who eats a lot of cereal,

pasta, sandwiches, that kind of thing, she

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had already cut a lot of those foods out.

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So one of the first things we worked on

was trying to eat three regular meals a

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day and with the caveat that they were not

going to be at the same time every day.

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She was not someone who had the same

working pattern, so of course her

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timings were going to be different.

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But I also wanted to stress that if you're

not eating enough food, it's very hard

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to feel good mentally and physically.

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We had a lot of conversations about

how you can actually sometimes eat more

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food and still lose weight if you're

choosing the right kinds of foods.

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So we worked a lot on how to increase the

foods that would help her feel nourished,

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feel supported, and so I started

with Encouraging low FODMAP fibres.

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These were some vegetables that she could

increase, so things like spinach, she was

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getting on well with spinach and eggs,

, also some grains like quinoa, rice.

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These are not rapidly fermentable,

generally quite well tolerated, and just

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to give her the right levels of support

to try and help her feel nourished.

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Some of the other first level Dietary

interventions that we did, so was

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upping her low FODMAP fibres, including

those grains, increasing protein as

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well, so eating breakfast, it was

to add something that had protein.

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So cornflakes are typically low in

protein, and especially if you're

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having them with a plant based

milk, such as oat milk, which she

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was because she was avoiding dairy.

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That's a really low protein breakfast.

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The same if you're just

grabbing a croissant and a

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coffee on your way to work.

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There's no protein in that.

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And then you're starting the day

and you're running around all

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day on your feet, really busy.

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That in itself can increase anxiety.

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Operating from a basis of no, like,

support for your brain can increase

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anxiety because your body is reacting

to a lack of available glucose and

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it's going to put your body into

a bit of a high state of alert.

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in order for you to seek out

food, it's trying to wake you up

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and say, go and search for food.

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And obviously this person was working

in an environment surrounded by food

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all day, but was choosing not to eat and

choosing not to, think ahead about food.

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She was also getting quite

frequent headaches and that came

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up probably a couple of weeks in

that the headaches, were really

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seeming to get worse for a time.

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So as I broke down actually how much

water she was drinking, she was not

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really having enough liquid and part

of that was in order to avoid having to

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go to the toilet all the time at work.

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But when you're working for almost

12 hours and not having many breaks,

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not feeding yourself, That is a

recipe for getting a headache.

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You can also get headaches from very low

blood sugar because, again, your body

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is just like running out of glucose,

being dehydrated and being under

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fuelled can also lead to headaches.

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Now, the other thing that she was

doing was taking painkillers for the

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headaches, but also for really bad period

pains that were coming up every month.

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So we had a good chat about how, The

non steroidal anti inflammatory

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drugs like ibuprofen can affect your

gut if you take them repeatedly.

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So, once she tried to avoid the

painkillers, unless it was really bad,

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and also thought about alternatives to the

non steroidal anti inflammatories, then

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she started to get less of the diarrhoea.

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She also did a little bit

of work on mindful eating.

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Things like chewing your food really well.

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And I introduced to her This idea of

taking a bitters tincture before the meal

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to help stimulate your digestive juices.

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Not everyone likes this, but you can

either get like a mouth spray or just

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some little drops that you put into

water and it's very bitter and that

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helps to just stimulate your digestive

juices if you take it just before a

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meal, like 10, 15 minutes before you eat.

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The reason for that to kickstart her

digestive juices was that because she was

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in this sort of ongoing state of stress.

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I felt that her stomach acid could

be potentially quite low and also

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because of some of the symptoms

in terms of the maldigestion of

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foods and her fast transit time.

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I also helped her with, some

specific probiotics that I

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thought would be helpful for her.

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symptoms.

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And also we looked at some calming

magnesium glycinate, which is quite

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good for the nervous system and for

helping her with sleep and sort of

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relaxation at the end of the day.

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By adding in some low FODMAP vegetables

and fruits, And actually upping her fibre

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intake that she'd been so worried about.

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She did manage to start regulating

her bowel movements and having

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less episodes of diarrhoea.

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She would still get these episodes

kind of half way through our three

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month program working together.

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Around six weeks in, she was

getting less episodes of that.

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Less pain in her stomach and

less of those occasions where she

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had to just dash to the toilet.

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But she found it was worse

when she had more, , wheat.

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foods so one day for example She went

away with her partner and they had like a

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beef lasagna, which had obviously lots of

things in it like Garlic and cheese and

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wheat and all kinds of maybe fatty meats

so that was okay, but then the next day

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she had some bread and cheese, and she

didn't know whether it was a combination,

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but like, having a lot of bread and a

lot of cheese in two days didn't go well.

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And then she did have pain, she had

that repeated recurrence of dashing

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to the loo and frequent diarrhoea.

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She thought that maybe it was just

that she'd been too relaxed when

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she went away and she'd seen some

improvement, gone away for a few days

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and then thought, oh actually maybe

I am okay and I can eat what I like.

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Because this client, I didn't say go

on the low FODMAP diet and cut out

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fibres, because she'd already restricted

quite a lot and I was really keen not

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to restrict her from anything else,

but where we were trying to increase

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fibre, was just choosing the things

that were naturally low FODMAP so that

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she could start increasing vegetables

without going overboard and potentially

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triggering her symptoms again.

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I also worked through with her

a couple of things that she

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could prepare and take to work.

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So she wasn't working seven days a

week, although there were weeks when

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we were together that she was probably

doing like a 10 day streak with no days

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off, so she was really working so hard.

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But, when she did have a day off,

obviously she wanted to relax and to enjoy

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exercising again and try and get out.

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But also, we worked on how to

quickly prepare some meals that

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could either be frozen in advance

and then kept and brought out to

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have those times when she was at work

she could have something healthy.

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the in her bag that

she could just get out.

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So it was things like having ready

cooked pouches of rice and quinoa.

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And you don't have to cook

everything from scratch.

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Sometimes buying things that are

ready chopped, if that helps you

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to be quick in order to eat more

healthily, then that's completely fine.

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Buy chopped up carrots.

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things like butternut squash

can be quite challenging to

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prepare because they're so hard.

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So if that's putting you off eating

it, By all means, buy it ready cut up.

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It's, like, all the small steps that

can help you to eat a better diet

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if there are barriers in your way.

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It's going to feel more challenging, so if

you choose to buy ready cooked meals that

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are healthy or ready cooked ingredients,

then there's no problem with that at all.

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We also talked through what

opportunities there were for

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her to cook quick meals at work.

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She was allowed to do that in between

some of the main serving shifts So

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things like making egg and spinach,

which was very quick, going to give

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you a little bit of vegetables, some

protein, and then bringing some of

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those grains in, that kind of thing,

trying to work through the options,

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like what is available to you, what

would be healthy, what would be ideal,

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and then what compromises can you make.

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So we worked through a lot of that.

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together.

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As her digestive symptoms calmed down,

she began to get back into exercising.

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And she said, I know I love exercising,

I really enjoy it, but at that time

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when she started with me, she just

couldn't remember that she loved it.

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Like it wasn't appealing,

it felt too hard.

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The Fatigue was intense and she really

couldn't bear to start exercising,

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but once her symptoms calmed down

She got a little bit more energy

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back and then she was able to go

out and start exercising again.

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So she just bought some small weights

and would do a little bit before work

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at home And she also started walking a

little bit further with her dog and sort

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of Exercising a bit more like a faster

walk a bit longer duration So that was

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really really helpful in managing the

anxiety, you know, things like getting

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outside is very good for us when we

are feeling stressed and worried and

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actually just seeing the daylight,

seeing the horizon, it's very calming.

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Sophia was still getting this problem

with water retention in her legs

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at the end of a very long shift.

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And she was asking me whether she

should take a diuretic supplement

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to try and get rid of it.

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I wanted to focus a little bit

more on getting some of those key

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electrolytes naturally through food.

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So for example, we do need electrolytes

like potassium, sodium, and magnesium.

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Now, she was taking a magnesium

supplement and potassium is really widely

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available in vegetables and fruits.

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So, the more variety she got in, I

felt like that was supportive for that.

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But we also talked about, um, vitamin C

and zinc foods such as seafood, meats,

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uh, pumpkin seeds, as well as things that

support your circulation like ginger,

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Garlic, although garlic was still a bit

of an issue for her when it was in high

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amounts But that was a goal for her to

start reintroducing garlic so those kind

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of things supporting your circulation, but

also thinking about structural integrity

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of tissues like collagen production

type nutrients like zinc and vitamin

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c And also drinking sufficient water.

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So getting enough liquid in

Counter intuitively actually

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can help with water retention.

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When your body is a little bit

dehydrated there are cases where

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you can actually cling on to more

water and become more puffy as your

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body is trying to retain that water.

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She had had blood tests

by the way at the doctor.

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They had ruled out things like any

problems with her kidneys, with her

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liver, and if you have any unknown

causes of your oedema, that's

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like the swelling in your legs.

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Like for her, it was definitely down

to long shifts being on her feet all

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day and standing up for long periods.

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But if you have swelling, then please

do make sure you get that checked out

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with a doctor because there are other

concerns that could be causing it.

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So, really important to just clarify that.

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At the end of working together,

it was really nice to hear

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her say, I can control my IBS.

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I know what I have to do.

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She didn't completely clear her IBS.

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I just want to be upfront with that.

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Like she had loads of things she

still had to work on by the end of

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three months together, but she knew

what they were and she knew how to

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control it, but also how to keep

reintroducing foods or testing things out.

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And she knew the basics of a

healthy diet that suited her

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digestion and suited her issues.

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She initially told me that she

wanted to lose weight whilst

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we were working together.

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And although her weight didn't change

throughout that time, she did feel that

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her legs and her hips were thinner.

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The weight on the scale was the same,

but actually, That's what most people

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mean when they say they want to lose

weight, is they want to have a body

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shape that they feel comfortable with.

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So it's just about things like your

clothes fitting more comfortably.

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She was happy with that.

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She was eating more and she

was not putting on weight.

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And that was because she was eating

different foods and eating enough

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food to keep her going rather than

that sort of erratic famine and

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feast cycle with not eating much

and then eating a big takeaway.

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That was more regular for her

and she just felt like she

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understood her body a lot more.

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So I was really happy by the end,

to hear her say, I think about

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food now, I think about what I can

eat and it doesn't stress me out.

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She was happy to think about what

food was needed for her body and also

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to see it as part of something that

was important for keeping her going.

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It's not just something to keep the hunger

at bay so you can get on to the next meal.

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Now I find this happens with people who

work in kitchens sometimes, and if you've

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ever worked in a restaurant maybe you have

been sick of food at that point as well.

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You don't feel like cooking

yourself a nice fancy meal when

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you get home, when you've been

serving for others all day long.

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So she said by the end that she thought

maybe she did have a problem with food

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and she had reflected on that over weeks

and months of small conversations about

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what does food mean to you, like how

can we change some of those attitudes

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to food and to fueling yourself.

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So it felt like a really nice ending,

but obviously she still had lots to

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carry on with and lots to work on,

but everything was calmer and more

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peaceful and And she had a plan.

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And I think that is the benefit

that you get when you're working

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with somebody on a one to one basis.

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Somebody who has a lot of

time to listen to you and

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understand your particular needs.

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If that feels like something you

would benefit from, you can join my

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three month gut reset where I work

with people over three months and

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you get eight different calls with

me over the three months, plus an

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hour and a half to begin where I take

all your health history and really

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understand your issues up front.

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And then that creates the

plan that we work towards.

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And because it's three months work,

we can change the plan as we go

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depending on the results and is it

getting you to where you want to be.

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If you want to investigate working

with me further, please do check out

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my website and also you can book a call

with me via the link in the show notes.

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I always love hearing from people as well.

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So if you've got a topic you would

like me to speak about on the Inside

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Knowledge podcast for people with IBS,

then please feel free to send me an email.

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I love hearing from my podcast listeners.

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A few people have left some comments

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