In Episode 13, Lisa is joined by Roberta Glass, of The Roberta Glass True Crime Report, for a look at the case of State of New York v. Ronald Joseph Defeo, Jr.. Defeo murdered his father, mother, two sisters and two brothers in the early morning hours of November 13, 1974. Defeo was arrested, tried and convicted in November, 1975. Lisa and Roberta talked about the murders, Defeo's trial, conviction and sentence and the claims made by George and Kathy Lutz, who bought the house in December, 1975. The Lutz family's claims of paranormal activity in the house during their 28 days there led to the book, "The Amityville Horror," by Jay Anson. They also talked about the controversy surrounding the Lutz' claims and the allegations made by William Weber, Defeo's trial attorney, who claimed that the haunted house story was hatched over multiple bottles of wine with the Lutzes.