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Episode 1023rd April 2026 • More Than A Brand: CX Podcast • Lindsay Tramel-Jones
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Could Your Team Run the Business Without You?

Building a Shared Client Relationship Standard Lindsay Tramel-Jones shares a story about a client who was seriously injured in a car accident and couldn’t communicate or physically work, yet her team successfully ran a pre-scheduled in-person event, made sales, and proactively contacted customers about potential order delays with transparency and a request for grace. Lindsay explains that as service businesses grow, a CEO’s instinctive standards often get “translated” and watered down across hires, creating inconsistent client experiences. She argues that SOPs, onboarding, and supervision don’t define what clients should experience; what works is a shared, intentionally built relationship standard grounded in the brand’s mission and voice, created with the team so they can carry the mission when the CEO is out. She closes by urging CEOs to assess whether their team can represent the brand without them and notes this is what FlowTribe helps build.

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00:00 Client Accident Wake Up Call

01:16 Podcast Intro And Mission

01:58 Why Standards Get Lost

03:33 Copy Of A Copy Problem

04:14 Team Runs Event Without CEO

05:40 Proactive Client Communication

07:29 Beyond SOPs And Onboarding

09:33 The One Question For CEOs

10:38 How To Fix It Flow Tribe 11:08 Client Update And Closing

Mentioned in this episode:

FlowTribe Team Engagement

68% of clients leave service businesses not because of price or a competitor — because they felt unappreciated. That is not a marketing problem. That is a relationship problem. And it almost always lives in how your team shows up when you are not in the room. FlowTribe is the two-week team engagement Lindsay Tramel-Jones built to fix that. Not a course. Not coaching for the CEO. A facilitated engagement for your whole team — using your FlowLab data to diagnose exactly where the client relationship is breaking down, train the team to build a stronger standard, and assign clear ownership to every touchpoint. By the time FlowTribe ends, your team knows how to build the client relationship without you in every conversation. Applications are open. Founding client spots are available at a reduced investment. Go to Flowtribe.co to apply.

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I wanna start today's.

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Episode off with a story about one of

my clients, and I'm not gonna share

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the name of her business because if

you're following her or if you're

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one of her clients, you already know.

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But what I do want to share and what's

really important is what happens

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because every CEO who has a team.

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Definitely needs to hear this.

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roughly about two weeks ago, my

client was in a car accident and

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it was no simple fender bender.

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It was a real accident.

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And what's so crazy about this

accident is that I was actually

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on the phone with her and we were

discussing business and how things

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were going, and the accident happened.

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Imagine being on the

phone with your client.

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They get in an accident while

you're on the phone, you hear them

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scream and then the phone goes dead.

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The injuries were so bad

that she couldn't walk.

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She had to get surgery, and when

it comes to her business, she

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couldn't get back to her kitchen.

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She could barely go to

the bathroom on her own.

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It was a whole ordeal.

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The big part about this is while

she was laying in that hospital

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bed, her team was able to run

an in-person event, make sales.

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Also reach out to every current customer

to let them know that there might be

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a delay in the Ask them for Grace.

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And they did it all without her.

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welcome to More Than a Brand, the podcast

for growth stage service business CEOs

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who are tired of watching clients they've

already earned quietly walk out the

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back door while they keep spending money

in the bring new ones in the front.

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I am Lindsay Tramell Jones,

the CEO of Purify consultant.

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I am a client relationship

strategist and an army veteran.

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This show is about the one thing

most business advice skips entirely.

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The relationship your team builds

with clients every single day.

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This isn't about marketing a

it is about the relationship.

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You've done the hard part.

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Let's make sure your team

can sustain what you build.

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This is more than a brand.

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Let's get into it.

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All right.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Let's jump into this episode.

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I know that y'all are tired of

me beating this dead horse, but

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I am always going to beat it.

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Okay.

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And it's because I don't think

it's sad enough, but when you're

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building your business, when

you're in that building phase.

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You're building your service business or

whatever kind, even if it's a product,

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you are building it around yourself.

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That's your values, your standards,

your relationship, and the way you

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would handle a , difficult client

conversation or a follow-up or an event.

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It is built around you and 90% of the time

you are not writing it down because it's

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instinctive to you and you didn't need to.

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Because you built that business

around you, it lived in you and

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in your instincts and your habits

in any way that you showed up.

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And for a long time that was enough

because you were the business.

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Now, let's fast forward to the part that

everybody wants to do and that is grow.

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When you grew in your business,

you started hiring, maybe that was

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interns, employees, contractors,

whatever that looked like for you.

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You built a team and.

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what most CEOs assume at that point,

they assume their team will be able to

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figure it out because they write SOPs.

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They hire people to work

in their zone of genius.

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They walk them through their onboarding

and they introduce them to clients.

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But then when they step back and they

hope what they built personally will

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somehow transfer to the people they hired.

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sometimes it does, but more often

it translates not transfers.

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As you already know.

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If you listen to the last episode The

first person you hired absorbed your

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standard by being in the room with you.

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'cause that's your ride

or die, that's your og.

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The next person got the 80% of the version

filtered through someone who had already,

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who had already been translated once.

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It's like making a copy

of a copy of a copy.

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I may be showing my age, but the

more you make a copy of that mix tape

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that you made back in the eighties,

nineties, the worst, the quality guy.

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Right now in your business, you do not

have one team delivering one standard.

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You have as many versions of your

standard, no matter how bad or watered

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down it is, and it starts creating

problems inside your business.

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Now, let's go back to my

client and the accident.

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What I want to do now is walk you

through what her team actually

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did because the details mattered.

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So yes, she was in this horrible

accident and when the accident

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happened, she couldn't communicate

the way she normally would like.

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She was going through surgeries,

pain, multiple breaks.

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she was managing her own recovery.

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She was not in the position to be

the CEO of anything because she was.

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Focus on her family and her

health as she should be.

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Her team had a pre-scheduled in-person

event and most small teams in that

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situation would have called to cancel.

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They probably would've sent some

vague message and hoped the clients

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would understand or they would've

waited for the CEO to tell them what

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to do, but her team did none of that.

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They ran the event.

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They showed up, they set up, they

executed, and they presented the brand the

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way the brand demands to be represented

with warmth, professionalism, the down

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to earth vibe that her business has,

and the level of care that her clients

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expect every single time they interact

with her brand and her business.

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this wasn't because they had some

kind of script for this scenario.

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It is simply because they understood

what the business stood for, and they

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knew that the mission did not pause

because the CEO was not in a room.

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Here's the part that I want to

sit with for a moment, they also

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communicated with her current customers.

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They reached out proactively to

let them know that there might

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be a delay in processing orders.

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They didn't wait for the clients

to notice something was off

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or try to hide the situation.

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They got transparent so

that people did not wonder.

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They were honest and they asked for grace.

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Because as entrepreneurs and

as small business owners, grace

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and being transparent will help

build stronger relationships.

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When they reached out to the clients,

they also did it in the voice of the

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brand, not their own voice, not the

way they think it should be done.

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They were trained and the voice of the

brand was ingrained in their minds and how

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they do business, that it felt seamless

to the customers and it made sense

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that is a relationship standard.

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It's not a SOP, it's not a process.

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It is a standard that is woven

throughout your business so that when

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your team has to step up, when the CEO

leaves the room, things stay the same.

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And those things are able to stay the same

because there's a shared understanding

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of what this business is committed to

delivering to every client in every

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situation, including the ones that

were never in the onboarding document.

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My client did not build

that standard by accident.

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She built it intentionally.

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She built it with her

team, not for her team.

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And when the moment came, that

required the team to carry

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on without her, they did.

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So what made it possible for her team

to execute at that level without her?

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I want to give you a real

answer and not a vague one.

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It wasn't an SOP.

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SOPs definitely tell your team what to

do, but they do not tell your team what

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the client is supposed to experience

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it was not the onboarding.

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Onboarding tells your team

how the business works.

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It does not tell your team what great

looks like in the moment that we're

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never in the onboarding document.

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It was not supervision because

she was in a hospital bed

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and there was no supervision.

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What made it possible was this, her

team understood the mission, or in other

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words, they understood the assignment.

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They understood the assignment

because it was a lived, shared,

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agreed upon understanding of what

this business is committed to and

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what the client is supposed to feel

at every stage of their experience.

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They knew what the brand demanded

because they had been a part of

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building what the brand demanded.

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They were not executing

someone else's standard.

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They were executing their own one that

they had helped define, had committed to,

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and had practiced enough that it lived in

them the way that it lived in their CEO.

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And that's the difference between

a team that needs to CEO in the

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room and a team that carries the

mission when the CEO cannot be there.

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Now I feel like I'm preaching, but this

is very important I want you to understand

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this does not happen on accident.

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It doesn't just happen because you hired

the right people for the job you wanted

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them to do, or that your values are

written on the back of your business card.

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It happens because you built the standard

together in the same room, and every

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person on your team owns a specific

piece of it that they take onus of

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and they understand the implications.

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They stand behind 10 toes down, what your

brand delivers and how to ensure that

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your customers feel like they are valued

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I always have to leave

you with one question.

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If something happened to you tomorrow,

and I'm not talking about a planned

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vacation long weekend, or some conference

where you are just unreachable, like

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something real that puts you completely

out of pocket for a week or more,

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would your team know what to do?

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And I'm not saying is it just gonna

be operationally ready or the task is

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still gonna get done, but would they

know how to show up for your clients

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in a way that your brand demands?

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If you could not show up for your

clients, would they know how to

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represent the business in a way that

makes your client feel like nothing

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has changed, even though everything has

changed because you're not in the room.

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The honest answer is yes.

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You have built something.

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Businesses rarely ever build.

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You have a team that carries on the

mission, that understands the assignment,

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but if that answer is no, or even

maybe it's not a failure, that's the

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most common situation in every growing

service business I've ever walked into.

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And fortunately for you, it is fixable.

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Now it ain't fixable by just

hoping the right people figure

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it out or writing a better SOP.

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it is fixable by building a standard

together in the same room so that

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every person on your team knows

exactly what they own and exactly

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what great looks like in their role,

and exactly what this business is

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committed to delivering to every client.

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And that is exactly what

we do with Flow Tribe.

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So I know you're probably thinking

what happened to the client.

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She's currently still recovering.

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She sent the message that she is ready

to start working, not standing, but

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administratively working and, back

to running and growing it and making

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it to everything she built it to be.

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What I've seen from her is that she

is so grateful and so appreciative

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to the fact that her team was

able to survive without her.

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Not once during that week in the

hospital, did she lie in a bed and

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wonder whether her business was okay.

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She knew her team, she knew her

standard, and she knew what they had

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built together was so strong and it

was strong enough to hold even when

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she could not, and that is the goal.

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The goal isn't just that the business

grows, it's that it holds your

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clients and your customers in a way

that they always feel appreciated.

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Always feel valued.

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That's all I have for you this episode.

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Share it with the CEO, who's

building a team and wondering

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whether the business would survive

if he or she had to step away.

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Thank you for listening.

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Remember, your business is more

than a brand, and your customers

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deserve to believe that too.

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See you in the next episode.

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