How to get through hard times, navigate divorce, grief, and life transitions—this episode will help you find hope, faith, and strength when life falls apart. If you’re searching for how to get through hard times, especially after divorce, loss, or a major life transition, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

In this deeply moving episode, Lesa sits down with Edith Espinola, a realtor and life coach, who shares her powerful story of losing her husband suddenly during a separation and navigating grief, guilt, and identity loss.

Together, they unpack practical and spiritual tools to help you move forward—including gratitude, community, emotional release, self-love, forgiveness, faith, and surrender. If you're in the middle of something hard, this episode will remind you: you are not alone, and this season can lead to strength, healing, and hope.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction to life transitions and hard seasons

(02:10) Edith’s story: loss, separation, and unexpected grief

(06:45) Navigating guilt, identity loss, and community breakdown

(10:30) The “dark night of the soul” and emotional overwhelm

(14:15) Why gratitude becomes a lifeline in hard times

(18:20) The power of community and sharing your truth

(22:10) Letting emotions move through you (and why it matters)

(25:30) Finding healing through movement, fun, and connection

(29:45) Relearning who you are after loss or divorce

(33:10) Self-love, forgiveness, and releasing shame

(37:20) Faith, surrender, and trusting the process

(41:00) Why hard seasons become your greatest growth

Key Takeaways:

• Gratitude can shift your focus and ground you during overwhelming seasons
• Emotional release (not suppression) is essential for healing
• Community and connection are critical during life transitions
• Self-love and forgiveness unlock growth after loss or divorce
• Faith and surrender create peace when life feels out of control

Guest Bio:

Edith Espinola is a realtor and transformational life coach who helps individuals navigate life’s most difficult transitions, including grief, divorce, and identity shifts. After experiencing the sudden loss of her husband during a separation, Edith rebuilt her life through healing, faith, and personal growth—and now guides others to do the same.

Resource Links:

• Connect with Edith Espinola: http://edithespinola.com
• Work with Lesa Koski: https://lesakoski.com
• Join The Comeback Community (Women 40+): (insert link)

Tags/Keywords:

how to get through hard times, divorce recovery, grief healing, life transitions, women over 40, faith and surrender, emotional healing, self love and forgiveness, navigating loss, personal growth after divorce

Welcome, listeners.

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I'm glad that you're here today.

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I have a new friend who's

going to share all...

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her authentic story and all her insight.

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I have Edith Espinola, and

she's just, she's so lovely.

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Just have the most beautiful smile.

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And if I understand it

right, you're a realtor-

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Speaker 2: I am ... and,

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Speaker: and a life coach.

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And so, and I love...

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See, I'm a, I'm an attorney and a

life coach, so isn't that interesting?

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I love it.

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And I, I feel, I feel like it's

been through life's transitions

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that have led me there.

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So we're, we are gonna talk this

week about life transitions and

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things that we go through and

how we can go through them well.

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Some things are hard and,

and other things exciting.

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But, um, so Edith, would you be so

kind as to share your authentic story

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with what led you to do this work?

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Thank you so much for having me, Lisa.

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I'm really excited to be here.

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So, um, you know, as I had mentioned

before, I know that your audience has,

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um, a lot of interest in divorce, and

you're helping to guide everybody.

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And so I myself am a widow and, um, at

the time that my husband had died, we

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were separated, so we were in that space

of trying to figure out, do we wanna

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continue moving forward together, or is

it time for us to go our separate ways?

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And so during this process, he had

a massive heart attack and died.

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Oh, no.

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It was horrible.

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It...

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I, I felt like, like I was in the

middle of, like, really trying to

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communicate, and it was stolen from us.

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And, um, and that part was hard

because there was the grief and then

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the trying to figure out, did we, did

we do the right thing by separating?

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Did we...

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Was there things that

we could have worked on?

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And, um, because we had been separated,

his family and friends actually

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treated me like I was divorced

from him and that I had no business

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actually being part of his burial.

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Like, like, my in-laws came, and they

wanted to handle the burial, and we

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had two children, and I was like,

"My boys, this is their honor and

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their gift to bury their father."

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Mm-hmm.

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"So no, brother, sister,

mother, no, you cannot do this."

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So it, it was interesting to find that

the people closest to him had chosen

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to treat me in such a way that made

me feel like I was an outsider, that I

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didn't belong, and so it made me really

question who he was being honest with.

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Was he being honest with me about

how he felt, or was he being

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honest with them about how he felt?

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And to have all of his side be so negative

towards me, it did s- it broke me.

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And, and I then was walking

through the dark night of my soul.

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It was...

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I couldn't believe that- I can't

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Speaker: imagine.

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It was- I can't imagine the loss.

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First of all, you're not sure you're

gonna get separated, and then I'm sure

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there's probably a little bit of guilt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.

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Totally.

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Absolutely.

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I felt guilt.

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Like, like, was it my fault

that he had a heart attack?

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Was his heart broken, right?

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Because, you know, being very

spiritual, it's like, well, his

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heart, was it affected and that's

why he had the heart attack?

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I really had to dig deep to figure out

who I was, because I had basically lost

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half of my community, and it was...

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Those were the ones most connected

to him, or at least I thought

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so- Mm ... at the moment, right?

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And so, um, I, I crashed and burned.

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I wasn't able to work.

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In real estate, it's my own

business, and so the business that

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I get is the business that I build.

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But if I'm...

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But when I was in grief

and not able to handle...

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I mean, I really didn't, I

really didn't recognize myself.

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I think I walked around

in shock for about a year.

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And also, a few months after my husband

died, my father had died from cancer.

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Speaker: Oh.

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Speaker 2: And so, yes, it was like

my husband and my father, the two

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main men in my life, I felt so, um...

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Gosh, emotion's kinda

coming up a little bit.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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So it was, it was a difficult time, and

I lost who I was, and I had to figure

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out not r- I wanted to create a life

that I was gonna be happy in, and that

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was more authentic to what I was doing.

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And that was where we were during our

separation, was trying to figure out what

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an authentic life was for both of us.

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And so I, at least I knew I wanted

to continue along that path of

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being honest and authentic to me.

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Because at, at the time, and I even

still feel a little bit of this,

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like, like that was the reason my

marriage broke up, is because I wanted

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to be more of who I knew I could be.

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And so I started to, uh, get into the

healing arts, and I learned more about

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manifestation, and made the decision

that I was not going to rebuild my life.

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I was going to create a life

that would be more in alignment

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with who I am and what I wanted.

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Speaker: I like that.

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Okay, my dear.

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Speaker 2: That's

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Speaker: a big, that's a big task.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: So we want to create a

life, I mean, and that is what we're

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built for- Yes ... creating, right?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker: And so tell me, how

did you go about doing that?

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All right, no, I just have to say too,

like, I, I have to talk about that year

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that you say you were, like, in shock.

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How old were your, your sons at that time?

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Speaker 2: So my oldest was 21.

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He had just gotten married

and just- Oh ... had a baby.

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Yes.

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And his birthday wa- is December 19th,

and, uh, my husband died on December 20th.

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Speaker: Oh.

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Speaker 2: And so, uh, that was

very hard, and my youngest was

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only 15, so- Oh, no ... yeah.

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You,

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Speaker: you still were there for them.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: You had your business.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: And you're walking around,

and isn't it interesting, Edith, how

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when you go through something really

hard like that, it's a- and I, I went

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through something really hard after going

through all kinds of coaching, after

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I had all kinds of mindset practice,

and it was like I couldn't even do it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker: I walked.

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I walked and just learned stillness

and learned how to surrender.

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So when you talk about being

in shock for a year, and your

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grief, grief is different.

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I mean, that's a di- it's all different.

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But tell me about, did you get to a

point where you had some peace even

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though it wasn't, like, happy, joyful?

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Did you have some peace in that year?

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Or how did...

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Just tell me your story about

how, what steps did you take to

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move forward and create this life?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Right.

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So, you know, I think that

it's very common for people to

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focus on the negative, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, "Oh, these people don't like me.

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Oh, I don't have any clients.

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I don't have business coming in."

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Um, but it was mostly the relationship

parts where I'm like, "Oh, wow,

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you know, they don't like me.

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Our relationship is different."

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And, and I f- I had so many

people around me loving me,

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supporting me, bringing me up.

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And so I had to learn how

to focus on what I had.

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Speaker: Yes.

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And

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Speaker 2: so I learned

the practice of gratitude.

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Mm-hmm.

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That was one of the most important

lessons that I learned, was to be

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grateful for where I am in this moment.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Like, like I was grateful

that I was still alive.

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I was grateful that my children were

alive, and that they had me to help hold

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them and to, um, walk with them through

this grief, through all of the processes.

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I'm so grateful that my, you know, that

our little, um, circle, my son, his wife,

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my other son, that we were c- we're close.

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We're still close.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, and, um, so gratitude really helped

me to recognize what was good in my life.

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And it wasn't so much of

the mindset stuff, right?

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It was the true gratitude, uh, to God.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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To

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Speaker 2: source, right?

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It's, it was just the true gratitude

of thank you for blessing me with

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a life that I still have, and I can

continue to be here for my children.

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And then being in gratitude for the

friends that were with me, and spending

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more time with them, and allowing

myself to talk about my feelings.

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'Cause all my life I've been very

private, and I didn't really wanna share

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emotions because I felt unsafe doing that.

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Mm-hmm.

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Right?

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Like in my past, I'd share what my

deepest, darkest thoughts were, and they

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would be like broadcast out to everybody.

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You know, "Oh, we're all friends.

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It's okay.

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People wanna know you're okay."

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And for me, it felt like betrayal, right?

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So- Yeah ... so sharing my innermost

thoughts with my deepest friends or

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with my dearest friends, that was huge.

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But that's what helped get me

through to find my peace finally.

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Is-

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Speaker: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker: So, um, so what I've heard so far

is you first you started- And when you're

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walking in this, when you're going through

something really hard, the gratitude.

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And sometimes it takes, like, trying to

remember when you wake up in the morning

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and you go to bed at night, that's a good

time to try to remember those things.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how you did it,

but just to be aware of it.

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Yeah.

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But then you al- and so then the

next thing you said was sharing with

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your friends, that talk therapy- Yes

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that community.

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Oh, as women, we need that community so

much, and I don't know that we always were

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there for each other when we were younger.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker: But we're learning.

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Um, right?

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We're learning and growing.

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So sharing with your friends and your

community, I mean, so that was kinda

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number two is what I'm getting out of

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Speaker 2: it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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And I believe that, uh, emotions need

to move through us, that we should not

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hold on to our emotions, that we should

feel them in the moment when we can.

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And I tell you, I mean,

I cried off and on.

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It, it was...

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I could cry at the drop of

a hat in that first year.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I did.

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I cried a lot.

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When I wasn't with people, like, that was

a way of grieving, of really releasing

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that, and, and, you know, speaking with

my girlfriends and having them support

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me, and, and that was good because,

um, just that release, it was just so

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internal- I know ... the depth of it.

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Speaker: And I did, I had

someone on too, uh, Lane Kennedy.

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She's awesome as well, and she was

ta- we were talking about how when

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you're really spinning out, like

say you first found out about it,

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that kind of isn't the time to...

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Like, or like if I wake up in the

middle of the night and I'm super

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anxious, that's really not the time

to sit there and go, "Okay, let me

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just feel," you know what I mean?

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That's the time when I do, "God's got me.

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I'm safe," and I try to do that mantra.

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And then she talked about, she gave me

a new practice, which I haven't had a

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chance to use yet, to either dance or go

jump on the trampoline and go back to that

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feeling to feel it and move through it

because there are times when you can't.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Right.

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Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Yeah, 'cause it's, you're

kind of in shock, you mean?

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Yeah.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes.

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Like there's so much, like just trying to

keep up with the world, I think, right?

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Like- Just

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Speaker: wanting to feel safe-

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Speaker 2: Yes

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... Speaker: in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Yes,

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Speaker: absolutely.

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And then when you're like jumping on

the trampoline or dancing, you know,

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she said, "Then go back to that."

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker: Calm your brain.

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What...

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So, so I like that- Yeah ... because

I was like, "Okay, this mindset,

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this isn't working for me right now."

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Right.

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And so that's something to do.

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Okay, so keep, keep going.

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Right.

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Yes.

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So we have these roaring

emotions, they go through us.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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And, and you know what's really

wonderful is for me, I have found

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in my life that, that life is much

better when I'm having fun, right?

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Mm.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, and it's like it just help- it...

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When I recognize that and I know that

about myself, then I try to put myself

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in positions where, like I'm having fun.

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I'm laughing, I'm enjoying what

I'm doing, I have a passion for it.

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And I have a girlfriend who, she's

wonderful, and she calls herself a muse.

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And she got all of my girlfriends

together, and we all went out dancing.

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And, you know, some people

were judging me about that.

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Like, "Oh, you're going out dancing?

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Uh, you know, you're still newly widowed."

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And, and what was beautiful was

all of my friends, like they just

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kind of surrounded me on the dance

floor, and we danced together.

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Like we didn't go out to go meet anyone.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it was beautiful because

there was so much love in that circle

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of friends, and they knew that I

loved to dance, and we'd all had fun.

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And, and that was something that I did

a lot with my husband, was dancing.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it was very

healing to do something physical.

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So I understand- Mm ... what

you're saying, right?

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It was...

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It's so good.

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Speaker: And I love what you're

saying about having fun, because

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I always forget about that too.

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I think about my transition, and I, I

don't talk enough about how there was that

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realization that I needed one, community.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: There w- the things

that were missing were not-

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Working out and eating right.

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The things that were missing were

having fun- Yes ... having fun and-

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Yeah ... you know, and reducing the

stress and, and things like that.

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So, so, a- and some women are

here and they're like, "I don't

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even know how to have fun."

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Speaker 2: Right.

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You know?

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And that's a journey.

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That's a journey that

we have to take, right?

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It's like we need to learn who

we are again, and, you know, and,

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and with divorce, right, I mean,

it's like you are here, you are

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separate, you are you, right?

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Who am I in this body, in this moment?

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As a widow, I was like, "Who am I?"

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And so really taking stock and recognizing

what I like, what I don't like-

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Yeah ... just the simple things, right?

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Speaker: Exactly.

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Exactly.

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And here's something that's interesting,

Edith, is sometimes it's uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes.

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Speaker: You know, like I was thinking

about always loved to play tennis,

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and believe it or not, my, my cute

dad is 84 years old, and he is

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like a hot dog on the tennis court.

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And he plays, like three times a

week, and they have this indoor court.

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And he asked me to play with

his buddies, and I was like...

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I was the weak link.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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And I

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Speaker: was kind of

like dragging my feet.

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Speaker 2: How

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Speaker: fun.

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And I...

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and, and so there are times...

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or, like, going to a new...

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I love working out with women.

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Going to a new workout class

is uncomfortable for me.

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Yes.

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There are things, you know what I mean?

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And so that's what's hard.

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Sometimes we have to push

ourself a little bit.

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Like, give yours- Yeah ... like,

I was like, "Okay, just go."

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And I went, and I played,

and I had so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Yes,

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Speaker: yeah.

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Now, if I would've gone and

been like, "Yeah, that wasn't

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fun," then I would've known.

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Right.

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But you, you have to kind of put

yourself out there a little bit.

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Like, I'm sure you going dancing with

your girlfriends was hard because-

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Speaker 2: Oh

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... Speaker: people were judging you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

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And everybody was judging

me except my girlfriends.

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Speaker: Right.

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Like, there were about six of us,

and, and they were all in on it.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it was beautiful.

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But it was the surrounding people.

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And, you know, it took me a

while to eventually let th- those

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surrounding people, the people who

don't know me as well, the ones

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who are judging me, to let those...

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let that noise go.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Because- It's, that's real hard to do.

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I don't know if you're a people pleaser-

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but I am, and that's

real, real hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Right.

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How

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Speaker: did you do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Well, you know, it's about, uh, self-love.

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And realizing that I have a

life and I get to be happy too.

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And, you know, yes, my husband

died, but he would not want me to

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suffer as much as I was suffering.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: I knew that he would

want me to, to be happy again.

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Not like overnight, but you

know, life, life has to go on.

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Right.

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And I'm gonna be honest,

it took me a while.

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It took me a long time to move on

with life because there was the guilt.

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There wa- you know, I wanted

something more for my li- for my

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life, and real estate was really

successful, and we started to drift

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apart, and then he dies on me.

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Right.

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And it's like that guilt, that, that

grief, and, and then for my children.

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But I knew that love is so important,

relationships are so important,

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and that's what life is all about,

is about love and relationships.

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And you know, there's the relationship

that we have with our creator,

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and there's the relationship

that we have with ourself.

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And we all too often, we forget the

relationship with ourself because we're

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trying to fill all of our roles with

other people, whether we're a partner or

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a parent or a daughter or a friend or...

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You know, whatever that role is, it's

so easy for us as women, 'cause we're

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such caregivers- Mm-hmm ... to step

into those roles and forget that we

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require that ourselves from ourse- Yes

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from ourselves.

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Speaker: Yes.

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Yeah, that's so true.

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That's so true.

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And yeah, loving ourselves.

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You know, and it's funny,

I, I don't think I had that

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realization until i- into my 50s.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker: You know, well into the,

my 50s and, and then I started

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going, "Oh, what do I like?"

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker: And it's just kinda being

aware, and it still gets me sometimes

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where I don't really know, where I

have to stop and ask myself- Mm-hmm

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Speaker 2: "Do I wanna

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Speaker: do this?"

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'Cause I've spent so much of my

life just trying to work into

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what everybody else wanted.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I do love that you

do pause and ask yourself, right?

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Like that's really good because too

often we forget to even ask ourselves.

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So I think it's just really important

that we make sure that we, we do count.

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And that we do deserve to have happiness.

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We do deserve to live

the life that we want.

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And self-love is a really

good place to start.

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You know, there's acceptance, there's

forgiveness, and there's love.

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And so the more we can love ourself

and forgive ourself for whatever we

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allowed to happen to us, 'cause I think

that's the biggest thing w- when we're

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going through life changes like this-

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Speaker: Mm-hmm

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Speaker 2: is how could I

have let that happen, right?

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I feel so foolish that I trusted.

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How did I let that happen?

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If we can, if we can forgive ourselves

for allowing it to happen, then

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there's so much joy and so much growth

that we can receive as a result.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, so forgiveness is a big one.

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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker: Okay, so I'm just trying to,

like, grab these practical steps- Yeah

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right, when we're going

through transitions.

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So am I, am I getting this right

where I'm saying gratitude, sharing

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with your community of friends-

Mm-hmm ... emotions need to move

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through us, having fun, self-love,

forgiveness- Yeah ... forgiveness of self.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: Okay, what else?

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What other tools can

people use to help them-

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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm

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Speaker: when they're going

through something hard?

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Well, really relying on your faith and

trusting that, that you will survive,

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that you will get through this.

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And just because you're gonna survive and

get through it doesn't mean it's easy.

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Speaker: Right

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... Speaker 2: right?

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It doesn't mean that it's easy or

you're going to get through it quickly.

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Like, there's no time s- limit on it.

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But if you trust and have faith that

you are always, always guided and

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protected, then you will be able to

trust in the process and just know

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that I'm gonna get through this.

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And whenever you, like, doubt it, which

is gonna be a lot because, you know,

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when you're in the thick of it- Right

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it's like, you know, "God, are you there?

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Are you helping me?"

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Or, you know, uh, "Do

you, do you have my back?"

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When you can stop and meditate or even

just be mindful, have mindful moments

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of, you know, like, just stopping and,

and being conscious of your breath, or

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walking and just, like, being conscious

that you're walking and you're seeing,

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you know, what's going on around you.

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Just be in the present moment.

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I think that's it, Lisa.

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Being in the present moment.

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Speaker: Well, and that, that stillness.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: That, that, I mean, I, it, just

was talking about this on another podcast.

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It's so important to

just be still and listen.

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And I have to say, too, in my own

journey, I think the main thing that

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changed it all for me was the surrender.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, yes.

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Speaker: You know?

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Yeah.

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And the thing of it is, is I have

to, every day when I wake up,

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I have to remember every worry

that pops into my head, I have

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to keep going back to surrender.

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Yeah.

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Because God loves me.

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We're daughters of the king, and He knows

what's best for me way more than I do.

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And he's got all of this in His plan- Yeah

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under His control.

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And so we can have...

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It's like you can have

hope and affliction.

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There's a Romans 12:12 verse that I

love, and that is, that's one of the, you

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know, have hope b- because He's got you.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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So, you know, that surrender, and

I'm talking, I'm saying trust, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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So that's the, that's it.

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When you surrender, you

release that you're in control

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because we're not in control.

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Speaker: We're not, and isn't, it's such

a- ... it's such a weird, scary thing

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to let it go 'cause you're like, "Oh."

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Speaker 2: Right.

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" Speaker: Something's

gonna happen," you know?

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker: You have no control.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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We have no control.

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Mm-hmm.

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No.

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So it's really that trust that we

are always guided and protected.

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Speaker: Yes.

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Yeah.

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And this life is a gift, and-

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Speaker 2: Yes

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... Speaker: I don't, yeah, I mean,

and it's gonna, everything

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changes and everything ends, so.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Yes.

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It's beautiful.

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And I found that, I apologize,

I have found that the, that the

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most difficult parts end up being

the most precious gifts, right?

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As, as time goes by and I recognize

and I look like, wow- My life is this

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way because I now believe in myself.

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Speaker: Right.

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Right?

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Speaker 2: Like, that, that fighting

to get to that point took a lot of

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hard work, a lot of trust, a lot of

surrender, and now I feel like, wow,

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I'm so thankful for the difficult

times because now I'm strong.

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And I look and think, "If I was this

person going through it then, it

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would've been completely different."

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Speaker: Amen.

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And that is, that is

how you build character-

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: Yeah ... and resilience,

and you learn patience.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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And you just trust.

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And, and in that trust, it

doesn't always feel good- Right

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... Speaker 2: but you

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Speaker: can always have hope.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Yes.

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Speaker: Absolutely.

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You said someone got you.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I love that.

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Yeah.

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And I feel like it's such

a good- That's a good thing

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like, Sam, can you, can you talk

about how you became a life coach?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Well, so- Just tell

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Speaker: me that quick.

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We have a little

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Speaker 2: time ... gotta be real quick.

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So, uh, you know, as I was going through

this process, I was learning, um, how

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to heal myself, and when I got to a

certain point, you know, I would have

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friends going through difficult things.

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Well, I've always been a friend

that could hold space while

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someone is there, so they were...

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I've always had been that person where

people could tell everything to, right?

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Even in the grocery store, people

come up, they tell me their whole

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life story, and then they feel better.

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They're like, "Oh, I feel so much better.

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Thank you."

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So I've always had that, right?

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Um, and so I just started to apply

the principles of coaching and

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guiding people to where they can heal.

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And also in real estate, I'm guiding

my clients, like, you know, what

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is it that you want for your life?

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Because your home is a reflection

of all your beliefs about yourself

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and what you want for your life.

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So that combination is what

naturally brought me to this.

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So I'm a transformational life

coach and manifestation coach.

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Speaker: Wonderful.

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Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker: We are going to have- Mm-hmm

... all your information in our show notes.

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Okay.

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So if people want to work with you, I'm

assuming they can just connect with you

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and do some coaching through those hard

transitions, like Death of a spouse

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Speaker 2: Yes

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Speaker: divorce, a scary diagnosis.

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I mean, there's so many things with

your kids that can happen Yeah You know,

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there's, there's so many transitions.

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And even, like, your kids

going off to college, that's,

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that was a big one for me too.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a huge one-

Mm-hmm ... where your kids go because,

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you know, you've had them for so long

and you're involved in their life,

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and then all of the sudden it's quiet.

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Speaker: I know.

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Speaker 2: And you're wondering,

right, "Are they safe?

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Are they good?

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Are they happy?"

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And- And who am

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Speaker: I?

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Speaker 2: Right, exactly.

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Now what do I do, right?

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Right.

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Yes, through any life change,

I, I'm able to help people.

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Speaker: I love that, and we

can do so much better beyond it.

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So, uh, Edith, I so appreciate you-

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Speaker 2: Mm

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... Speaker: learning and growing

through the your hard thing, and

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then helping other women who are

going through it do better too.

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So thank you.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Thank you, Lisa, for having me.

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I had a wonderful time and- It was a

great time ... you're so wonderful.

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Thank you.

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Speaker: You're so sweet.

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You take good care.

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Speaker 2: You too.

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Speaker: And I forgot to say what you s-