00:00 Introduction and Easter Weekend Recap

02:01 Pastor PJ is Preaching the Prosperity Gospel

03:09 Genealogies and 23andMe

05:52 First Chronicles In a Nutshell

08:14 Genealogies and Their Significance

12:26 David's Lineage and the Number 7

15:35 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hey.

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It is Wednesday as you're listening

to this, but it's our first day

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recording since a great Easter weekend.

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We had an awesome time as a church family.

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It looked different than we thought it was

gonna look but it was a great time still.

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Nonetheless, we had a great event

and that is largely due to the just

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amazing, flexibility and and generosity

with time and just cheerful attitudes

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of you guys listening to this.

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Our church family did a great job

in responding to some last minute

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changes on our part, and so we

are so grateful for you guys the

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way that you a adjusted plans.

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To make extravaganza

still happen on Sunday.

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We had a lot of people show up.

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We had over 400 people at church

this past weekend, which was huge.

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And just a great opportunity to preach

the gospel during main service to some

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people that were of different faiths,

different religions that were there.

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I.

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For the egg hunt that decided to

come in and listen on Sunday morning.

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So that was really neat and a great

opportunity to be able to do that.

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But then man, Ali Trinidad and her whole

team and all of you who volunteered and

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you guys know who you are just well done.

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Thank you so much for serving

and for being flexible with

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us and adapting on the fly.

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It was we.

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We couldn't have pulled it off.

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There's no doubt about it without

you guys doing what you did and being

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as generous with your abilities.

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That, that's out of pat.

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That's anything, any place.

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Anytime you hear us talk

about that a lot, and you guys

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certainly did that this weekend.

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Rod: Yeah.

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We couldn't be more proud of you guys.

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The flexibility, the willingness,

the joyful attitude, even with

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the wind blowing you over you guys

just knocked it outta the park.

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We are extremely proud and

honored to co-labor among you.

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PJ: Yep.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And hopefully it was fun too.

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I think I looked around, I saw

a lot of people having fun.

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I saw the bounce houses were full.

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I saw that the playground was

full of kids hunting for eggs.

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And apparently there was one little girl

who had a basket full of eggs that she

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had collected during one of the egg hunts.

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And she tripped, and the eggs went

like just flying out of her basket.

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Aw.

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And it was just like.

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Wild Beast on Ker.

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They just kids descended on all of her

eggs that were in her basket previously.

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So hopefully that little one

got some eggs still in the end.

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But yeah.

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Yeah, it's midweek now as

you're listening to this.

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So we, we are a good way into the next

week here post Easter, and we're gonna

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be talking about the difference in,

in what difference the resurrected

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Jesus makes after Easter for us.

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And that's gonna be this

weekend as we continue in our

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series of the Gospel of John.

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So we'll be talking, actually, the message

is gonna be called the Prosperity Gospel.

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And so if that's not enough of a hook for

you to show up and find out it's not okay,

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then I don't know why, then I don't know.

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Then I don't know.

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You label it why the

Prosperity gospel is awesome.

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Then maybe I take a second look.

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I'm gonna talk about why the

Prosperity Gospel is legitimate.

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Wow.

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May, but.

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No.

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Yep, you said it.

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Yep.

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That's it.

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Clipped Mark.

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Bye.

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Yeah, no, it's we're gonna talk about

what prosperity in Christ looks like

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following his resurrection, and so

we'll talk about that on on Sunday.

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Can't wait to to gather

back together with you guys.

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Yeah, we got youth back on this week.

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We've got women's Bible study on Saturday.

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We never stopped.

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By the way, just to be clear.

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We got youth.

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We keep going still

this week, not back on.

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Can't stop.

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Won't stop.

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Youth is not back on this week.

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No, we're still on.

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It's just on.

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Still on.

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Remaining on.

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Yeah.

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Lots of good things going on

here, but let's jump into some

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genealogical conversations.

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Did you hear, by the way, 23

and Me is filing for bankruptcy?

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I did hear about that.

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So the Chinese are gonna buy

everybody's DNA, it's possible

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and have all of these records.

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That is a legitimate concern.

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Yeah.

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So I've deleted

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Rod: mine.

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I didn't send mine in, there you go.

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I have deleted mine, so hopefully

they actually delete it.

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We'll see.

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But I'm nervous about that.

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Yeah.

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Exchanging hands and whoever gets that

information has a lot of information

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about a lot of people, which I, isn't it,

I thought the Mormons were behind that.

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No they have genealogies and

they're very good at that.

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I'm pretty sure they're the

driving force behind ancestry.com.

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A few others, maybe that's

what it's, yeah, but not 23

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and me, but if ancestry.com

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purchased 23 and me, that

would be interesting.

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And the Mormons never run into money.

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So that's, they have plenty of cash.

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Lord knows that they have

lots of expandable funds

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to do something like that.

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So yeah, that would be something

interesting to combine and that

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in fact, that makes sense to me.

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ancestry.com

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and 23 and Me.

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It's a good fit.

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It seems to be.

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PJ: Yep.

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Yeah.

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Some people, maybe you don't know this,

but there are no paid clergy in the

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Mormon church or the Mormon wards that is.

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And so I learned that for the first

time when I was in living in Arizona.

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There was a lot of Mormons in that

area, and somebody came out to

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me and found out I was a pastor.

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And they were trying to figure

out what that looked like.

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And they're Mormon and they're like,

so do you do you own the church?

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Is it yours?

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Did you buy it?

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Yes.

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That's not how it works.

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My church, we're not a franchise.

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We're not Mick Jesus over here.

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But then they told me that they don't

have pastors or any paid clergy in the

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Mormon wards that it's all staffed by

people that are just volunteer capacity,

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until you get to the upper echelons.

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But that's why the elders in the

Mormon church or whoever can come

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sit down in your living room and

say, let's look at your finances.

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This is how much you're gonna

give to the church this year.

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Because it's not like you and me

going and sitting down with somebody

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and being like, Hey, let's look

at, let's look at your finances.

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Oh, you're gonna give this

much to the church this year?

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They don't.

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I don't,

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Rod: yeah they do check on that.

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They, if in fact, if you're gonna

be temple worthy, if you have your

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temple card that allows you access

into the temples, you have to have.

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Then thoroughly background

checked and that's gonna look

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different at different wards.

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But you're right, they do.

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They do.

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Look at that.

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Yeah.

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That's a big part of what it

means to be a good Mormon.

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Yep.

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And a good Christian for that matter.

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But

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PJ: we approach it differently.

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Yes, we do.

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Yeah.

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We're not looking at your W2

though, is what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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No, that's true.

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We don't have access to that information.

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Mark might, he's that accountant guy.

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Mark has access to our information.

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I think so.

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I think he has.

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Everybody's.

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How does he have access

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Rod: to that?

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PJ: I don't know.

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Okay.

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He's got it on planning center somewhere.

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I'm sure You think so?

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Let's be clear.

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He doesn't though.

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He does not.

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He really does not.

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He does not.

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Just to be utterly clear about this.

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Yeah.

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And it's not on Planning Center, so

if you're worried that any of your

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information is out there, it's not.

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No.

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But Mark does run, he's the

report guru we need to report.

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It's Hey Mark, can you run this for us?

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And he just does it

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Rod: on it Report.

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Report created.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Speaking of reports, this could be

a spreadsheet, chapter one of one,

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Chronicles chapter one, and chapter

one of one Chronicles chapter one.

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Is that's words.

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Finish that monster.

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Thanks man.

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Yeah.

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One Chronicles chapter one, first

Chronicles Chapter two genealogies

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are in this this opening section

here, and this is where it can

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slow down for us a little bit.

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Again, as we talked about back in, I

think Leviticus and numbers it just,

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it, it can be difficult, but I think

it's important to frame this and

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understand some of the background of

First Chronicles and why it's written.

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And that's gonna give

you an idea of why the.

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The genealogies were there for Israel

and also why they're there for us.

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And so First Chronicles is actually

post exilic meaning it was most

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likely written following the exile.

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And that's gonna be after the monarchies,

after the divided kingdom Babylon.

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Think Daniel think tho all of that stuff

going on and chronicles first and second

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written after that's why it's post exilic.

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And so you may be wondering why are we

reading it now if this is chronological?

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And the reason being is that

the content of the books.

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And come back to what we are reading

about in First and Second Samuel

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and also First and Second Kings.

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And so that's why chronologically

we're reading the content of

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First and Second Chronicles in

concert with these other books.

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Though they were written after the exile.

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And that gets into the why they were

written and they were written as

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historical records to remind the people of

Israel who were coming back to Jerusalem

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about the history of the nation and they

wanted the, this new generation, this.

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The generation coming out of

exile after 70 years in exile.

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They wanted them to remember

and to know the history of what

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God had done with his people.

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And so that's why we find in these

first two chapters and beyond these

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genealogical records, is the chronicler

wanted the people to know that

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this is not just made up stories.

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That this is not just us thinking,

oh, here's a fairytale figure

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and here's this guy over here

and this, there's this person.

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It's tracing with detail.

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The records of these family lines to

remind Israel, okay, this is your lineage.

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This is what God was doing and

that's really the thrust here.

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God formed the people

from the very beginning.

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First Chronicles chapter one,

verse one, Adam first man.

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Boom.

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Out of the gates there,

God formed the people.

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God did this, God's.

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Telling this story, God's

weaving these things.

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And so the message to the chronicle

generation that it was written

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to would've been, Hey we need

to follow and fear this God.

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And I think the message for us to

take away is similar to that, let's

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learn these lessons that we can

learn from previous generations.

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Believe in the historicity of

the events, and also say, what

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does that mean for us to today?

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Rod: Yeah, I guess one thing I'd note

for you guys is that in chapter one,

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verse one, you pointed him out just

a second ago, but his name is Adam

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which gives us fair confidence that

Adam is not a mythological figure.

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He's not a legend, he's not an idea.

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Some Christians will argue, I.

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Because they have a commitment to

Darwinian evolution that perhaps Adam

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is just a figurehead for the human race,

that he's not actual literal person.

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But here at least the chronicler

thinks that he's a literal person

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because, oh, look, here's Adam

and here's his sons Adam's.

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Fathered Seth and Enoch and Kenan

and Maha Al and Jared, and on ago.

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This is the lineage of a literal

man, and it doesn't make sense, at

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least in my mind, to say Adam is

potentially mythological and he's

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the catchall for the human race.

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It doesn't make sense here.

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So it seems like Adam is treated like a

literal person and also Jesus, later on

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down the line is also gonna do the same.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Jesus and Paul too, right?

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Paul's argument in Romans chapter five

about imputed righteousness is based

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on the historical existence of Adam.

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If Adam is a figurehead, just a

metaphor, then Paul's argument

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really doesn't hold any water.

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Paul is saying as through one man came

sin, which if Adam is just a metaphor

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for the fall of humanity in general,

then it didn't come through one man.

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And we can't point back to the.

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To that connection to the righteousness

that comes through Christ there.

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So I think Paul would would agree

with the chronicler and with our

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position here that, yeah, Adam

was indeed a historical figure.

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One Chronicles chapter one, as we're

talking about here again, post exilic.

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These genealogies are here

because they anchor the nation

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to God's initial act of creation.

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And in this first chapter here, you'll

note that eventually it gets to Esau, and

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that's where the focus of Chapter one is.

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And so the focus of chapter

one goes through Esau.

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You'll remember Jacob and Esau and

the split that took place there.

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And so the first chapter begins

with dealing with with Esau.

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And after we get through Abraham

there, we get through these

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descendants, then through Esau,

and then we get into chapter two.

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And chapter two, we're going to get

into the line of Israel or Jacob.

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And so in chapter two, we're dealing

with more of the line of promise that's

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gonna go all the way down to David.

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And so in chapter two, you get the names

Judah, in verse one, verse four, Perez

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verse five, Hezron verse nine, Ram.

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Verse 10.

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Abada or a ada, sorry.

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And then hon and then Salman, verse 11.

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Boaz.

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Now we're getting into

some familiar territory.

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Obed.

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Verse 12, Jesse, verse 12.

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And then finally, David in verse 15.

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So there are other names there, but

those are the names that are part of

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the Davidic line, which means they're

part of the messianic line, which is

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ultimately going to produce Jesus through

the descendant in offspring of David.

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Rod: So as you orient yourself to this.

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This book here you gotta

look at the headings.

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Those are gonna be really helpful for you.

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So you'll notice in chapter one,

we went from Adam to Abraham.

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That's the beginning of a human

race until you get to the promise

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race that was given through Abraham.

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And then from Abraham to Jacob,

you have again the further deline

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delineation and clarification of the

promised people getting to David.

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But then he's gonna expand out

and start looking at the various

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tribes, the 12 tribes of Israel.

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And then we're gonna finish

with Saul, and then we're gonna

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look at the return to exile.

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So all of this is important leading up to.

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The story of God's continued work

through humanity, through a group of

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people, in particular the Abraham,

Isaac, and Jacob, the patriarchs that

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God chose to make his name great among.

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So keep the big picture in mind as you

read through this, and I'm, I encourage

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you as I do with books like this, passages

like this I have my Bible read to me.

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So I'll use my audio bible in

conjunction with what the Bible I'm

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looking at here on my screen is, and

I'll have it read to me and I'll,

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it'll make my way through the names.

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And it often helps me catch things

that sometimes I will often miss.

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One thing you might've caught in

chapter one was Peleg, that the earth

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was divided in his days as chapter

one verse 18, excuse me, verse 19.

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Peleg when the Earth was divided.

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Some people think, oh, there's Pangaea,

that the earth was divided into its

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subcontinent after some major earthquake

or some kind of natural catastrophe.

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I don't think that's

what's happening here.

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Palate is probably a really

good connection to the earth

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divided in the Tower of Babel.

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Genesis chapter 11.

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So that's not Pangaea, although

there is some evidence for Pangea.

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It looks, the pieces do look like

they fit together, and that seems

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to be more than a coincidence.

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But whether or not that's talked about

here does not seem to be the case.

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So that's chapter one.

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Keep that in mind as you

get through chapter two.

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And one thing that might stand out

to you, of course, is David himself.

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In verse 14, it says here

that David was the seventh.

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But he actually was not technically

speaking anyway, he was actually

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the eighth of his father.

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And in fact, we know that

because the seven sons of Jesse

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were paraded before Samuel.

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And then Samuel said, do

you not have anyone else?

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And he is oh yeah, there's

this other one in the field.

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He's standing the sheep.

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And that was the eighth.

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So David was the eighth technically,

but he's the seventh here.

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Any thoughts about that pastor pj?

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There's a couple solutions to it.

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I wonder if you have any preference

for any of those solutions?

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Only that

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PJ: it's possible that one of

the brothers had passed away.

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Yeah, was forgotten from historical

records because of that, and that,

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that's the one that I tend to

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Rod: land on.

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That makes sense.

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And that's a fair representation.

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Another option that people will

bring to the table is that the

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chronicler might have put David in

the seventh position because of his

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significance in his role in Israel.

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And seven being a special

number, the number of completion,

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it's the number of God.

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We don't put a ton into numerology,

but there are times to put something

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in numerology, God uses numbers to.

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Communicate a message.

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And so it's possible that what

the chronicler is doing is helping

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us see the importance of David.

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So even though he wasn't literally the

seventh, he is a seventh of Jesse in that

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positionally, he's the seventh as a, in

terms of his his high role and rule in

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the nation of Israel, in particular Judah.

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So that's why you see that there,

there's other possibilities,

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but those are the two big ones.

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Also, as I mentioned, I think a

couple podcasts ago, maybe the last

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one or the one before that, verse

16 tells us that the Sun of Zia.

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Abishai, Joab and Assael three.

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They were the sisters of

sisters of David and his clan.

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So keep that in mind.

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Cool stuff in here if you're

willing to read through it.

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I know sometimes it's hard trucking,

but it'll provide value if you can

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read through it with some patients.

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PJ: Yeah.

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And then right after that.

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Verse 18, he talks about Caleb and

then eventually he's also gonna talk

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about je and you may be wondering

where are they in this line?

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What's going on here?

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Those are two of Hez Ron's sons from

back in first Chronicles two nine.

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We think Caleb is another

name for Cell Lu by there.

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That would be what's going on there?

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He's expanding on some of

the other names that were.

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Previously mentioned there,

otherwise it's a bit of a right turn.

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You're dealing with David and then all

of a sudden here's Caleb and who is this?

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It's not the same Caleb from the promised

land and sm got the land and all that.

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But yeah, so I agree there, there's

nuggets in the genealogies of

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Chronicles that are fun to, to

uncover and and reading 'em slowly,

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reading 'em methodically listening

to them are good ways to do that.

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That's the way I do it.

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Listen to it.

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That's the best way.

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Yep.

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'cause then they pronounce

the names for you too.

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Rod: Pronounce the names.

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You're not having to struggle

over that then you'll catch it and

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you're like, oh, that's interesting.

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I never saw that before.

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Yeah.

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PJ: Yeah.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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Logas also pronounces

names for you, doesn't it?

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It does, but I just tend

to use the command R.

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And have it read for me.

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That's my favorite in church sometimes.

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Yeah.

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Just like that.

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Sometimes when I'm preaching, I'll hear

somebody's log, I start reading to them.

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Yeah.

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Because they accidentally started

reading and then like in a, in your

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at home, you could turn it off easily.

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You're like, oh, I know

how to shut that off.

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Yeah.

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But when that happens in public,

you're like, I don't know

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how to stop em from reading.

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Stop the ringer

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Rod: from ringing, stop

the logos from reading.

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We forget everything in

public when the pressure's on.

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Everything that we know just goes out

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PJ: the window.

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There's gotta be some name for that.

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There's gotta be some like, yeah, probably

that's our tendency to, to do that.

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But anyways, one of, you'll email

us, Hey, let's pray and then

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we'll be done with this episode.

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God, thanks for your word and the more

difficult parts of your word, genealogies.

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We should pray that we would be

attentive to these, and I just ask

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that you would give us a good time, a

rich time in this list of names that

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we would be able to think well about

these things and wrestle with them and

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ask questions and not just settle with

letting our eyes glaze across all of

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these different lists, but that we would

say, okay, how is this profitable for.

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Profitable for me today.

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What can I take away?

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What can I learn from this?

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And so we ask that you would

enable us to have that mindset

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as we come to the scriptures.

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We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen.

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Keep in your Bibles, tune in

again tomorrow for another edition

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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See you.

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Bye.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said