Meet Karen villain Wesley, aka Gavin Fraser in a real "get to know you" interview as AL sits down with the guy.

You may have heard a few snippets of this interview during the "Meet the Weasel" episode of Horses and Biscuits but here is the whole interview. You may be pleasantly surprised to find out that the man behind Wesley is actually a really nice chap.

"Karen" is a TV pilot that is being produced by Rocking Horses Media. Horses & Biscuits is a step by step series that will be following the process from auditions, to wrap, to release.