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The Results Lag: Why Speakers Give Up Too Soon
Episode 27427th May 2026 • Professional Speaking: Known. Booked. Paid. • John Ball | Speaker Coach for Paid Keynotes & Professional Positioning
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There comes a point for almost every speaker and coach where the doubt becomes hard to ignore. You are doing the work, following good advice, showing up consistently — and nothing seems to be moving. The bookings are not coming. The calendar is open. Other people seem to be on calls constantly, and yours is, well, available.

Or maybe some things are trickling through, but not enough for it to feel real or sustainable. There is a ceiling somewhere above you that you cannot quite identify, let alone push against.

In this episode, John Ball addresses that place directly. Not with motivation. With a more useful question: what is actually going on?

What you will take away:

  • Why slow results are almost never a reflection of you as a person, and what they are more likely to reflect
  • The results lag principle: why the work you are doing now rarely pays off now, and why that is not failure
  • Why expert advice that works for established speakers often does not translate for those still building foundations, and how to recognise the difference
  • Why measuring vanity metrics instead of leading indicators distorts your read of the situation entirely
  • How to go back to your why as a diagnostic tool rather than a motivational one
  • What quitting actually means versus pausing a pursuit, and the difference between running out of resources and running out of reasons
  • When it genuinely is time to explore other options, and how to recognise that honestly

John shares from direct experience: the periods of doing live streams for 60 days with no traction, building a coaching business alongside a job taken out of financial necessity, and repeatedly asking himself whether the podcast was worth continuing. The answer in each case came back to the same place: the why.

If you are at a point where the question is forming in the back of your mind, this episode is worth your time.

If you are not getting results and cannot see why, get in touch. John works with professional speakers to diagnose exactly what is and is not working, and where the effort needs to go. Reach out on LinkedIn or at [email protected] for a no-commitment conversation.

FAQ Section

Why are professional speakers not getting bookings even when they are doing everything right?

John Ball argues that a lack of bookings is almost never a reflection of a speaker's ability on stage, but a problem on the business side: specifically, positioning and visibility. Most speakers who are not getting results are following advice calibrated for people further ahead in their business, without the foundational elements in place to make that advice work. Ball describes this as a context mismatch rather than a failure of effort or talent. The fix, he contends, is almost always in the business mechanics rather than the performance.

What is the results lag and why does it matter for speakers building their business?

The results lag is the delay between the work a speaker puts in now and when that work converts into bookings, income or visibility. John Ball uses his own podcast as an example: a slow-burn asset that does not immediately generate leads but builds trust, relationships and positioning over time. Ball argues that this lag is long enough to feel like failure when it is not, and that speakers who quit during this window are often stopping just before the pipeline they have built begins to pay out.

How do you know if it is time to quit your speaking business or keep going?

John Ball contends that most speakers who are asking this question are asking it too early. He draws a distinction between running out of resources, which is a practical reality and not a verdict, and running out of reasons, which is a more meaningful signal. Ball suggests going back to the original why as a diagnostic tool: if the why is still solid, the question shifts from whether to continue to what needs to change. People who have genuinely reached the end, he argues, usually know it without needing external confirmation.

Why does expert advice on speaking and coaching sometimes not work?

According to John Ball, much of the advice circulating in the speaking and coaching industry is designed for people who already have an established platform, a warm audience or a different market context. Following that advice faithfully without those foundations in place will not produce the expected results, and that is a calibration problem rather than a personal failure. Ball gives the example of being advised to live stream on LinkedIn daily for 60 days with no meaningful traction, attributing the failure to unclear positioning rather than the format itself.

What is the difference between vanity metrics and leading indicators for speakers?

John Ball argues that many speakers track the wrong things: follower counts, post impressions and downloads rather than enquiries, fee conversations and genuine relationship signals. Measuring vanity metrics creates a distorted picture of progress, making things look worse than they are or masking the fact that real indicators are not being tracked at all. Ball notes that some speakers do not track any metrics at all, and that without this visibility, it is impossible to run a business effectively rather than simply deliver a product.

How does John Ball's Professional Speaking podcast approach the question of giving up?

In this episode of Professional Speaking: Known. Booked. Paid., John Ball draws on personal experience across coaching, speaking and podcasting to address the question of whether to quit when results are not coming. He argues that the gap between invisible and known is often shorter than it appears from inside the fog of slow results, and that reconnecting with the original purpose behind the work is a more reliable guide than any external metric. Ball also shares that stopping for practical reasons, such as running out of financial runway, is not the end of the pursuit.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 When Effort Stalls

03:06 Motivation Or Visibility

03:33 Business Beats Performance

05:06 Results Lag Reality

08:17 Bad Fit Guru Advice

12:19 Track Real Metrics

15:07 Reconnect With Your Why

17:31 Runway And Pausing

20:12 Quit Or Honest Pivot

21:51 Adjust The Right Levers

23:53 Get Help And Next Steps

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You're doing all the work, you're following good advice,

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and nothing seems to be moving.

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You're not getting bookings,

the visibility or the

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income that you expected.

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Your calendar's wide open.

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Other people seem to be on calls all

the time prospecting, and your calendar

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is, well, let's just say available.

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Or maybe you're getting some of

it through, but not enough to…

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for it to feel real, for

it to feel sustainable.

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There's maybe a ceiling somewhere

above you that you can't quite

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identify, let alone break through it.

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And somewhere in the back of your

mind, a question is starting to form.

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Is this actually working

or am I kidding myself?

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I've been in that place.

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I know what it feels like to

follow the expert advice that

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doesn't seem to translate into

your situation, to work so hard and

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still wonder, "What am I missing?"

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Today, I want to talk to you about

what's probably really going on and

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how to reconnect with why you started

this and what it really means if

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you do decide to stop Welcome to

Professional Speaking, the show for

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people who are serious about speaking

and becoming known, booked, and paid.

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My name's John Ball, professional

speaking coach, keynote speaker,

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stand-up comedian, and sci-fi nerd.

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I'm here as your guide on the journey

to a successful speaking career.

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If you related to anything that I was

saying there in that introduction, then

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there's a good chance that you've at

least had some doubts about whether or not

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to continue with your business, whether

you're, you're ever gonna make it, if

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there's something wrong with you that you

just haven't been able to identify, why

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other people seem to be finding things so

easy, but for you, it feels really hard.

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I can certainly relate to all of this.

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I had these experiences.

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I've been close to quitting on

different projects and things

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so many times in my life.

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I got into coaching, started to wonder

if I was ever gonna make it as a coach.

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Got into speaking, start to

wonder those same things.

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Those feelings, it can end up feeling like

you're in a race, and halfway through,

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you find that you're still near the

starting line and nowhere near the finish.

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And the more you try to put effort

in and find yourself not getting

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any closer to what seems like the

finish line, not getting closer to

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your goals, to the finish line, the

more frustrating it feels, the less

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you want to carry on, the more, the

more disheartened you become, and the

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more you start to question yourself.

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The old imposter syndrome kicks in.

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You're not seeing the results, and

maybe you start thinking, "Well, maybe,

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maybe there's something wrong with

me, that that's why I'm not seeing it.

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Maybe people are avoiding me."

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You feel invisible despite all the

genuine effort, spending hours maybe

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on social media, working on posts

and content and articles and videos.

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Maybe you're getting some work,

but it's not enough for it to

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feel real or sustainable for you.

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You're sensing a ceiling that

you can't see clearly enough to

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push against and break through.

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The compounding effect of everything

else life is throwing at you at the

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same time, because life doesn't pause

whilst you're building your business.

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Now the thing here is we can start to

wonder if this is a motivation problem,

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because you will start to lose motivation.

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But really it's a visibility and

timing problem wearing a motivational

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problem disguise, because it

more than likely is not that.

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And so it becomes a thing of something

I've talked about a bunch on the show

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recently, and will be going into more

detail on in the future, of positioning.

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Positioning and relevance

being a large part of this.

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There are people out there who will

tell you that all you need to do is to

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improve your storytelling skills or you

need to increase your stage presence, and

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that's gonna get you more speaking gigs.

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You need to be more

interactive with the audience.

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You need to sell the workshops more.

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Like yeah, th- these are--

look, these are all good things.

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Definitely you should do them.

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Improve your talk, all of that good stuff.

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And yet they are probably not

the thing that's going to make

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the biggest difference for you.

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And I don't think I could emphasize

this enough that where the fix needs to

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happen if you're not getting the business

is in the business side of things,

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far less than the performance side.

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'Cause the chances are your

performance, the ability when you

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actually show up, when you do your

job, you're probably pretty good at it.

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I'm willing to bet that

you're good at what you do.

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You probably somewhere deep down

inside know that you are, and

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your clients probably like you.

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Audiences probably enjoy your

talks and, and so all the

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elements will seem to be right.

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Yeah, okay, there are probably

things that could be improved upon

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because there always will be, and

you're never going to be perfect.

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But to think that the result is just

that you need to be more energized and

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emotional about this, this idea that

you just need to live in the energy of

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the goal achieved is like, it sounds

great, it sounds very self-help,

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but it's hard to do, especially when

the results aren't coming through.

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But rather than thinking that mindset is

going to be the thing that fixes it here,

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it's gonna be much more practical elements

that will make the bigger difference.

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Whatever you do, whatever you

do is gonna have a results lag.

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So there's always gonna be a

lag in seeing the results from

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your efforts nearly every time.

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The work that you're doing now

rarely produces results now.

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There's going to be some kind of delay,

and the delay is long enough to feel like

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a failure when it isn't The pipeline that

you're building today will pay out later.

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The relationships that you're developing

now will pay off later in the future.

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That is not consolidation.

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It's how the mechanics

of this actually work.

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The one thing, one thing I can

say is I can probably use this

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podcast as a great example of that.

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Because there have been many times where

I sort of think, "Well, I'm not really

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sure it's growing enough to be worthwhile.

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I mean, what am I doing with this show?

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What's it leading to?

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Why do I keep doing it?

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And am I gonna keep it going given

that it's not actually the…

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it's not actually generating

the results that I'd hoped for?"

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The reality is this, I know that

shows like this are a very slow burn.

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I know that they serve

sp- specific audiences.

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I know that those audiences tend to

be pretty loyal and come back, and

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that it's hard work growing a show.

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My take on it has really

become more of this.

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When I thought about giving

up the show, that upset me.

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I thought, "Could I, could I

actually stop if I wanted to?"

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Yeah, I, I could, but I would miss it.

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I would miss the people that I get to talk

to, the network that I've been building

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up since I started doing this show.

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I would miss the people who have been

helped as a result of some of the content

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and effort we've been putting out there.

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That's the stuff that I would miss.

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The positioning that this

gives me is that a source of we

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get to know each other a bit.

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Okay, it's a bit of a one-way

street right now for the most part,

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but you get to know more about me

and what I'm about and who I am.

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There's few things like this for

trust-building or what my friend Taki

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Moore calls brand width, to be able to get

and understand more of a person's content

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and who they are, and whether they're

someone you'd want to work with So that

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was ultimately what I ended up coming back

to is why am I doing this, and is it okay

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to keep going and putting in the level of

energy and effort into this if it's not

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developing the results that I really would

hope and maybe even need to see from this?

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It did lead me to making some

decisions about how much time I would

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spend on the podcast and on editing

and output and all those kinds of

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things, and promotional side as well.

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Which is unfortunate, because those

are important elements of the podcast.

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But for the moment at least, these

are not things that are actively

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bringing in money into my business,

and I'll be honest about that.

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I re- I wish that…

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I wouldn't say the podcast never have.

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It certainly has at various times

through sponsorships, sometimes

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through being a funnel for clients

to come through to me as well.

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But if I was only gonna do this because

I, "Well, I want to be seeing at least

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three, five leads coming through a

week from the show" b- for it to be

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worthwhile for me for me to continue

doing it, I would actually have

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stopped doing the show, because that

isn't where things are at right now.

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And yet, here I am still doing

it because I think it's valuable.

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It helps me, I think, and I hope

it helps you as well as a listener.

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Now, look, the advice that you get

from, the advice that you get from

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particular gurus may, may not be wrong.

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It just may not be right

for where you are yet.

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Here, here's an example from me.

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One time I was told that, "Oh, you just

need to start live streaming on LinkedIn

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every day and you will build audience."

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I started doing that.

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I did it for, I'd say 60 days, and I

saw nothing, like maybe a handful at

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the most of people who were tuning in.

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And whilst there were reasons, whilst

there were things going on that I was like

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maybe it wasn't specific enough about…

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You know, there's all sorts of

things I can look back on and say

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why that didn't work out for me.

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But ultimately, it wasn't the best advice

for where I was because my messaging,

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my product if you like, wasn't clear

enough for anyone to be like, "All right.

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I should be tuning into this guy

and what he's talking about."

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I had to figure that stuff out.

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Now, I got some really great

experience at doing live streams,

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which has been very helpful to me.

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With 60 days of doing them, I was

able to get a bit better at riffing

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about things and consistency and

all those important elements.

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But it didn't move the

needle for me professionally.

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And so whilst it's nice to

learn and develop, it doesn't

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put money into the bank.

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It doesn't pay your rent or your mortgage.

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So look, a lot of people are

following advice that would be

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right for somebody who's already got

an established platform or a warm

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audience or a different market that…

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And it doesn't automatically transfer.

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Or they're trying to do stuff that

they're seeing other people who are

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really much further ahead than they

are in their business doing, and

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it's, again, it's not right for them.

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They don't have the foundational elements.

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And certainly this is, this has been

very real for me in life and business

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of trying to jump to those higher

levels of activity, of action, the

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stuff that looks really fun and high

level, without any of the foundational

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elements underneath it supporting it

that do actually need to be there.

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We would love to think that we could get

to skip the foundations, but we don't.

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There'll always be exceptions to the rule,

but for the most part, we actually need

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to build a business foundationally as a

business and not just be out there doing

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the high level social media marketing or

just getting up on the stage and speaking.

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These are not the things that actually

will get you the longer term results.

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They are the things that will

work better for the people

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who are already established.

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So the advice you may be getting

might be calibrated for somebody

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further down the road or, or perhaps

on a different road entirely.

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And if it's just not translating for

you, like one example would be For

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me personally, I was, like, grow-

in growing my coaching business, was

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given the advice of, and I'm going onto

Facebook and going to these groups and

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direct messaging people on Facebook.

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This is before it became

much more common practice.

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But I felt uneasy about it.

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I felt, I felt it was a

bit sleazy and cheesy.

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I had some very negative responses to

that from people that I was reaching out

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to who did start conversations, but they

weren't nice conversations to be having.

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And I also had a lot of

people ignore me or block me.

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And even when I did start to have some

good conversations coming from that,

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it didn't feel like there was enough of

them to outweigh the sleaziness of it.

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It just didn't feel right for me.

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And so I stopped doing it because

I didn't like feeling like a sleazy

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marketer, and that's what I felt like.

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And I don't like it when other people…

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I don't like it when people now

just connect with me on LinkedIn,

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and the first message from them

is trying to sell me their shit.

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Or that they don't even go that far,

they're just directly emailing my inbox

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with, with their products or services.

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I don't think any of us like that.

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There's no relationship, there's

no, there's no trust there.

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There's really just that feeling

of all you care about is getting

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a sale and, and th- this is

probably not the best way to do it.

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There's a, a frank reality that we may

also be measuring the wrong things.

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Very, very often we look at vanity metrics

rather than the real leading indicators.

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That's if we even look at metrics at

all, because I certainly know speakers,

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coaches, workshop leaders who do

not look at the numbers, who do not

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track their progress, who don't…

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Some of them don't even have CRM, any

system of being able to follow up with

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people or keeping on track with things.

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How can you really expect a

business to work if you're

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not doing the business itself?

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You just wanna show up

and deliver the product.

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That is not how this is

going to work out for you.

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Very occasionally, very occasionally,

some people, either through, through the

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positioning or through the relationships

that they already have, or through

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money or status that they already have,

do get pulled into just delivering the

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product and someone else or a company

takes care of all those other bits.

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Don't expect that for yourself.

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It's probably not gonna happen.

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It's, again, the exception rather than

the rule So if you're aiming just to be

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visible, if you're like one of the pick

me people or see, look at me, look at

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me, here I am over here on social media

doing something weird or wacky or crazy

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or pay attention to me or look, I've got

my, I've got my AI-generated carousel

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over here or this post template that I've

copied from someone else's successful

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post and I'm putting it all over social

media and I'm not seeing any responses

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or I'm commenting on other people's

posts but they're not really commenting

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back or putting up regular images and

posts but it's not really tracking.

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Well, something's not connecting.

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Because if I just-- if I was to just

look at downloads as my only podcast

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metric, probably not gonna be super

excited about that anytime soon.

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But that doesn't reflect whether

someone has listened to the episode and

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got something really helpful from it.

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It doesn't reflect relationships that

have been built up through, um, through

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the conversations that we've been having.

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It's only one metric, and it's not

really the truest generator of success.

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So you may look and see no results,

but that might not actually be true.

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And look, if, if you're on LinkedIn,

which a lot of professional coaches and

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speakers are, if you're on LinkedIn,

there's a chance that a lot of people

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are not directly responding to what

you do anyway because people tend to

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be more passive observers on LinkedIn.

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They often don't seem to

join in the chats that much.

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Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't.

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So it very much depends.

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It's unlikely that the reason that you're

not as far ahead as you would like to be

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is because of you personally as a person

'cause there are always gonna be things

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that you could be better at, things that

you'll probably be able to improve on, and

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you will continue to improve on over time.

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But the problem is almost

certainly adjustable.

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The question is whether you have given

it enough runway to know that yet.

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So go back to your why.

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Why are you doing this in the first place?

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What got you into it?

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And don't look for a polished answer here.

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This isn't something that you're gonna

be saying to someone as a networker.

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This is, this is time to

get real with yourself.

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If you're having doubts, real doubts

about continuing with the business

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that you've been putting time and

energy into, then it's time to have

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a think about why you are doing this.

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What really matters about this for you?

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Because if it was just the money,

oh, there's a million other things

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that you could do to make money

that might be a lot easier and may

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even require far less of you putting

yourself in front of other people But

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the why is gonna do two things here.

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First, it's gonna tell you whether

the problem is worth solving.

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Because if your why is still solid,

the conversation is gonna shift a bit

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from, "Why should I continue with this?"

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to, "What needs to change?"

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Those are very different questions

with very different answers.

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Secondly, it reconnects you with what

you are actually doing this for, which

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is rarely just for bookings or income.

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It's usually about impact or identity

or something you need to say, or

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just a desire to make a difference.

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When you're in the fog of slow

results, it's easy to lose sight

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of that and measure everything

against the wrong standard.

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Most of the people that I encounter in

the speaking and coaching world are in

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it because they are compassionate people,

because they actually genuinely care.

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They want to make a difference.

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They want to help other people.

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They didn't get into it just because

they thought, "Oh, wow, there's

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a lot of money to be made here."

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There are people who come into the

industry who are like that, completely

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cynical, just want money, and those people

exist, but they are few and far between.

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The vast majority of people in the

speaking and coaching world are much more

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about purpose, much more about connection.

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Pretty real people who would do

it for free if, if they could,

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if they didn't need the money.

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You know, they're still gonna do

it So it doesn't need to be long.

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Your purpose for your business is really

whatever you decide you want it to be.

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What gives you fulfillment in doing this?

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What makes this worthwhile

for you in the long run?

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That hopefully the income side of it

is more a perk, a bonus, a great bonus

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to have rather than anything else.

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If you're at that point where

you just think, "Look, this

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has been long enough already.

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This is…

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Things aren't happening."

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Maybe you feel like you've run

out of runway, and it might just

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be a practical reality for you.

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That's not a verdict on who you are.

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I've had this situation whereas I had, I

had money from a redundancy, and that was

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my money to start up a business, and after

12 months, wasn't where I needed to be,

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and I had to go and get a job to be able

to pay my rent, to be able to keep going.

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That was the reality of it for me.

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It wasn't the end of the dream, even

though at the time I thought it was.

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I thought everything was falling apart.

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Stopping because the finances

demand it or because life has

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changed is- isn't the same thing

as being wrong or having started.

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In fact, what it, what it can end up

doing is being a fresh start for you.

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There may be new opportunities

or connections to still be had.

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It might even just mean that you need

to work a bit harder for a while.

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I ended up building up my coaching

business around the job that I took.

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It took a lot of extra work.

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It took months of commitment

and dedication, and I was tired.

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I was tired.

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But it, it was a season of hustle.

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It wasn't a forever hustle.

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And it was worth it because

it got me off the ground.

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It got me to a point where

I could quit that job and go

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full time with my coaching.

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And the whole series of events made me

more serious about what I was doing.

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When I look back, I think maybe

it had to work out that way.

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It's okay.

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It wasn't the end of everything.

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So there's a difference between quitting

the dream rather than pausing the pursuit.

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I mean, if you run out of

resources, you can be very…

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Look, some people make it in the

business because they don't need

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to make money for themselves.

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They've got maybe somebody else supporting

behind the scenes, or they've got

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family money, or they just don't need

to be making money for whatever reason.

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Maybe they've made their fortune,

and so they're not really worried

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about making more fortune right now.

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So they don't have that fear of,

"Well, I'm gonna run out of runway.

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I'm gonna run out of resources at

some point," that, that you and I

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and others may have, and that can

be very real reason for not being

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take- not- for not taking action.

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Don't be jealous of that.

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It's like everyone has their own

positions, and we all have our own

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privileges and lack thereof And sometimes

the problem can be that sometimes from

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the outside, everyone kind of looks the

same in the same position, but we're not.

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We all have different things going on.

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Sometimes we're perhaps even not as

resourceful with the resources that we

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have as we could be, or we don't actually

get so resourceful about, you know, things

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that actually don't or aren't affected or

run by how much money we have in the bank.

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Those are very different

ways of looking for it.

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But for a s- for a very small number

of people where all the signals are

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genuinely pointing in one direction,

like nothing is connecting, nothing

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seems adjustable, the why has genuinely

gone or is just doesn't feels hollow,

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it doesn't feel real, I don't think

exploring other options would be failure.

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It would be honesty.

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And that is the way to look at it

because most people who are asking the

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question usually are asking it too early.

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And if you are wondering whether

to quit, that wondering in

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itself is worth examining.

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People who have genuinely reached the end

usually know it without needing a podcast

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episode like this to confirm it for them

If it's the case, make the cut, make the

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decision, and move on to other things.

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Here's what I'll say.

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If you realize next week that you've

made the wrong decision, it's all

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still there for you to come back to.

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You know?

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But if you end up finding yourself on

a much easier path with opportunities

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that start opening up to you because

you've made that decision and opening

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other doors, then that's a pretty

good sign that you're actually

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moving in a better direction.

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Nobody wants to be banging their head

against a brick wall for a long time

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and not seeing results based on that.

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But there is always the chance that

you may be closer than you think to

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the outcomes that you really want.

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Not because that's a comfortable or

motivational thing to say, but because

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sometimes the gap between visible

and known is, is shorter than it

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appears to be from inside the fog.

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The problem is you can't

see it from where you are.

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So what you can do to help you

get clear on why you're here,

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adjust what is adjustable.

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Take an honest look at whether you

really are working the business side

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of your business effectively, because

that probably is where things most need

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to be happening, and that you're not

just hoping, not just doing stuff that

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you hope will get results, but you're

doing stuff that you actually know

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if you do this, you will see results.

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You will see things happening.

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Business has levers that generally work,

and they shouldn't be levers that you

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hope that when you push the button and

pull the lever, that things start to run.

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Hope is an important thing to have with

you, but it is not in itself a strategy.

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It's not going to get you results.

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You need to be doing things that you

know will or should get you results,

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and probably if you're looking to learn

that from someone else, looking for

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things that you can get from them that

are pretty much like, "You do this, do

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this with me, and you will get this.

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Because if you don't, we'll

give you your money back."

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And you should be then following

through and taking the action.

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Sometimes I see this as well, that

some, some people are taking the action

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but not getting the level of feedback

that they need to be on the kinds of

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action they're taking to be able to know

whether, whether they should keep doing

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more of this or do some of that, and

that's a really useful thing to have.

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This is why coaches and guides can

be so helpful for you as you're

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growing your business as well.

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Most people could do with having

some sort of advisor, mentor, coach

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who can help them see more clearly

what's really going on and to be

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able to say, "All right, well," you

know, hopefully if, if you have…

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For, for speaking particularly If the

stuff that you're doing to get results

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isn't working and you don't know why,

it's gonna be an external view on what

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you do that's going to be able to more

clearly see what's really going on,

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where things are and aren't working or

connecting, and perhaps where you're

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spending time that isn't being effective

for you, and where you should be

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spending time that's going to get you

bigger results, more bang for your buck.

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I hope it's been helpful if you are

genuinely thinking, "Ah, I just feel like

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I'm banging my head against a brick wall.

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I don't see what the

problem is," get in touch.

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Let's take a look at things.

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Let's go through it and see if we can

figure out what's really going on for you.

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If you're close to quitting and

you just think, "You know what?

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Maybe this is the last-ditch

attempt," let's have a chat.

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You can get in touch with me

on LinkedIn or directly email

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me, [email protected],

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For now, wherever you're going,

whatever you're doing, have

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an amazing rest of your day.

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Go and do something worth talking about.

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We'll see you next time.

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