The great Jay Ingram returns to the show to talk about his latest book The Science of Why 5 and for a discussion on science communication in a pandemic. Jay is a long-time science communicator, broadcaster, author and host of two iconic, Canadian science programs, Quirks and Quarks on CBC Radio and Daily Planet on Discovery Channel Canada. Now, aside from authoring books Jay does live shows, sometimes with a band, panel discussions, talks and evidently, guest spots on small time science podcasts.