Struggling with your bookkeeping process? Discover how to transition to a professional accounting team without fear or hassle.
Ever had those moments where your numbers just aren’t making sense, or things don’t show up on time?
Julie Smith talks about that “uh-oh” feeling and what it’s like to realize you might need help. Glenn Harper reassures us that embarrassment is totally normal, but it shouldn’t stop you from making the change you need. They break down what the transition really looks like. From evaluating your current setup (no judgment!) to how their team does all the heavy lifting so you don’t have to stress.
You'll hear stories about what it means for entrepreneurs to actually hand off the books, how a professional team can be a real partner for your business, and why, according to Glenn Harper, no one regrets finally getting their finances organized. If you’ve ever wondered what switching accountants is really like, or just want to spend more time doing what you love in your business, this episode is for you!
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Key takeaways for entrepreneurs:
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00:00 Organized onboarding and change management
03:47 Value of hiring a professional CPA
06:50 Benefits of professional bookkeeping services
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Without a business partner who holds you accountable, it’s easy to be so busy ‘doing’ business that you don’t have the right strategy to grow your business.
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Glenn Harper, CPA, is the Owner and Managing Partner of Harper & Company CPAs Plus, a top 10 Managing Partner in the country (Accounting Today's 2022 MP Elite). His firm won the 2021 Luca Award for Firm of the Year.
An entrepreneur and speaker, Glenn transformed his firm into an advisory-focused practice, doubling revenue and profit in two years. He teaches entrepreneurs to build financial and operational excellence, speaks nationwide to CPA firm owners about running their businesses like entrepreneurs, and consults with firms across the country. Glenn enjoys golfing, fishing, hiking, cooking, and spending time with his family.
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Julie Smith, MBA, is a serial entrepreneur in the public accounting space. She is the Founder of EmpowerCPA™, Founder of PureTax, LLC, COO for Harper & Company CPAs Plus, and Co-host of the Empowering Entrepreneurs podcast.
Named CPA.com's 2021 Innovative Practitioner of Year, Julie led Harper & Company's transition to an advisory-focused firm, doubling revenue and profit in two years. She now empowers other CPA firm owners nationwide through consulting and speaking, teaching them how to run their businesses like entrepreneurs. Julie lives in Columbus, OH with her family and enjoys travel, coaching basketball, sporting events, and the occasional shopping spree.
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So good. And one more question. Oh wait, I was wool gathering. What were you
Glenn Harper:going to say? One more question that I have for you is, and it's
Julie Smith:the pain point, right? It's the pain of change. And we all know
Julie Smith:change is painful in the middle part, right? But
Julie Smith:so say I was with a bookkeeper and I'm
Julie Smith:having this aha moment right now that like, oof, my numbers
Julie Smith:don't seem right, or maybe they're not in the right place, or I'm not getting
Julie Smith:things timely. Whatever that pain point is that you're feeling right now, in
Julie Smith:order to make a change may seem like an even bigger pain point.
Julie Smith:But what does that transition look if I'm having that thought right now and I'm
Julie Smith:like, hmm, I need to give Glenn Harper a call? Well,
Glenn Harper:great question. And thankfully I've had this question asked
Glenn Harper:a gajillion times. So it comes down to 2 things. All
Glenn Harper:right. The first thing is, as a business
Glenn Harper:owner, When you finally realize this, you're
Glenn Harper:probably embarrassed and you shouldn't be
Glenn Harper:because it happens. But when you have knowledge,
Glenn Harper:you have power. So now that you're aware, now you kind of have a responsibility
Glenn Harper:to yourself, your team, your clients, your organization
Glenn Harper:to kind of fix it and do it right. So don't be embarrassed. I've seen
Glenn Harper:a lot worse. So the question is, it doesn't matter where you're at.
Glenn Harper:We'll take you and we'll help you. So don't be embarrassed about it first, 'cause
Glenn Harper:it's just the way things are, okay? Way it is. The second
Glenn Harper:step is, what we do is we then evaluate
Glenn Harper:what you have. Like, is it any good? Is your
Glenn Harper:accounting set up right in QuickBooks? Is the
Glenn Harper:logic behind it and how it's set up, does it have account numbers and things
Glenn Harper:alphabetical? Is it easy to read? Are things in the right category?
Glenn Harper:There's a— there's— if it's on this side of the equation, hey, that looks pretty
Glenn Harper:good. We just got to tweak some things. Then we'll probably keep the system you
Glenn Harper:have and just tweak it to make it pretty. If you're over on
Glenn Harper:this side, we're like, whew, I'm not sure what was going on
Glenn Harper:here, but this looks like this has had 30 different people playing with it. And
Glenn Harper:there's all kinds of things. We might just say, look, we got to kill this
Glenn Harper:and just start another one. All right. We'll evaluate that and tell
Glenn Harper:you what that looks like, what you're expecting. But the cool thing about
Glenn Harper:this is you don't have to do anything as a client. We do it all.
Julie Smith:I was going to say, I was in charge of onboarding at one point and
Julie Smith:it's a very structured thing inside of Harper. So you're going to get a checklist,
Julie Smith:you're going to know exactly what you're responsible for, but what you're responsible for
Julie Smith:is really just access and making sure we have the access to be
Julie Smith:able to do exactly what we need to do. We do every single heavy lifting.
Julie Smith:If Glenn says we're going to restart, redo, our whole
Julie Smith:internal team getting together to figure out what does that look like based on your
Julie Smith:data, based on what you do. And so it's really, I think from a
Julie Smith:Harper perspective, very organized so that change, we
Julie Smith:understand change, right? We understand it doesn't feel good. No, it doesn't feel good anywhere.
Julie Smith:We want to alleviate that. So no surprises, here's exactly your expectations,
Julie Smith:here's the expectations from Harper. And then it's kind of up to our whole internal
Julie Smith:team to kind of make sure we get you onboarding and get you onboarded in
Julie Smith:a very timely fashion so you start receiving those numbers for the health of your
Julie Smith:company timely. And we're also able to get you
Julie Smith:in with Glen to be able to do some of that advising. So I think
Julie Smith:really it's from Glen's standpoint, that embarrassment, that
Julie Smith:knowledge, that awareness to get you in, to get you evaluated. That's the
Julie Smith:biggest step that a prospective client has to take in our
Julie Smith:situation because it's really, it's kind of, what do you say? Like Jesus, take the
Julie Smith:wheel. Once you've been able to kind of do that, We're kind of able to
Julie Smith:take it from there and just, we've built, you know, a phenomenal internal
Julie Smith:team that everybody has all their strengths to be able to really take that and
Julie Smith:run with it. I can, what usually ends up happening is
Glenn Harper:there's a reason at those CPA
Glenn Harper:letters at the end of my name is there's this standard that
Glenn Harper:says, when I work with a client, I am responsible.
Glenn Harper:I take full responsibility of ensuring that your
Glenn Harper:things are in order, your books are in order, your taxes in order. When
Glenn Harper:you are doing it on yourself or you have maybe just a part-time bookkeeper,
Glenn Harper:there's really no responsibility. There's no accountability because people are like, ah, well, I
Glenn Harper:didn't know. You're not paying for that, right? So they're not going to take
Glenn Harper:ownership of it. So the second you then work with a
Glenn Harper:professional like ourselves, we take ownership of that. Now,
Glenn Harper:You got to give us the data. You got to say, yes, go do what
Glenn Harper:we do, and you got to be available for us to get what we need
Glenn Harper:from you, but we'll do it the right way and we'll take ownership. So that
Glenn Harper:means when there is a problem, we got you. We got you. The
Glenn Harper:ownership of the work product is the hard part.
Glenn Harper:It's really hard. We've worked with some fantastic bookkeepers that
Glenn Harper:they're awesome and they take ownership. They do a great job. We've worked with some
Glenn Harper:that are not so good. There's some CPAs that are awesome, some are not so
Glenn Harper:awesome, whatever. The spectrum's all over. But our job is to take
Glenn Harper:responsibility. So once you realize as the owner that when you
Glenn Harper:can get through the, whatever, the pain, the embarrassment of calling us
Glenn Harper:and we come in and evaluate you, we take that emotion off the table. Then
Glenn Harper:you know we're going to be accountable for, and we're going to do what we
Glenn Harper:say we're going to do. And you don't have to do anything other than just
Glenn Harper:be available for questions. Our team, like Julie says, takes care of those things.
Glenn Harper:And now we have the new process, the new system, the new
Glenn Harper:training that's gonna happen. So if we keep your internal person, great, we'll work with
Glenn Harper:them. We'll tell 'em what to do. If it happens to be only our team,
Glenn Harper:great, we'll do what we need to do. Your job as the owner is just
Glenn Harper:to get us access and do what we ask you to do and answer questions,
Glenn Harper:and we'll do all the rest. You continue to do your job. I just had
Julie Smith:a, you know, aha moment as you're saying that. Another one? You've had a lot
Glenn Harper:of 'em today. I mean, I know I'm actually listening to what you're saying today,
Julie Smith:so maybe I'll do my books better or get my information to you better. I
Julie Smith:don't know, one of those things. I think the whole thing is
Julie Smith:whatever entrepreneur is walking through the door, whatever they are good at is what
Julie Smith:they are good at. And you kind of alluded to this at one point too
Julie Smith:about a dentist doing whatever. But I think the goal
Julie Smith:for Harper, for you, for our team is to say, hey, listen, you're
Julie Smith:good at what you do. Go do what you do. Let us take this off
Julie Smith:because we, at the end of the day, we want you to go use your
Julie Smith:time and energy to do what you're good at. and allow us to do what
Julie Smith:we're good at and then know that we're working together for you. We're a
Julie Smith:partner with you for the best possible outcome. And I think sometimes as an
Julie Smith:entrepreneur, you know, we get bogged down in like, well, we could do it ourself.
Julie Smith:Why don't we just do it ourself, right? And so sometimes we forget like our
Julie Smith:best use of time is maybe not doing debits and
Julie Smith:credits or thinking how, where can this be plugged in in a tax return?
Julie Smith:It's actually doing what you're passionate about and good at and allowing
Julie Smith:our team to do that. other part for you? I have
Glenn Harper:never, never had a
Glenn Harper:situation where when we take over
Glenn Harper:somebody's bookkeeping, their accounting, their tax work, their
Glenn Harper:advising, I've yet to have somebody that go, man,
Glenn Harper:that was the worst money I ever invested. It always works out.
Glenn Harper:And it just always does because you are now an
Glenn Harper:empowered owner 'Cause you know exactly
Glenn Harper:how much money you make, what your expenses are, what your tax liabilities are, the
Glenn Harper:strategies involved. You now, instead of just doing your job, you've
Glenn Harper:become empowered. Isn't that the name of this thing right there? You now have
Glenn Harper:become empowered where you understand how your business runs and works, where
Glenn Harper:before you had no clue. And it's okay if you didn't know
Glenn Harper:before. Today you know, so make the decision.
Julie Smith:I think you just closed the loop, so we should just drop and stop here.
Glenn Harper:There it is.