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00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:12 Church Vision and Mission
00:44 Importance of Community in Church
03:33 Commitment to the Church
04:37 Listener Question: Genesis 15
06:11 Discussion on Genesis 22
11:52 Abraham's Family and Legacy
14:33 Conclusion and Prayer
hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the daily Bible podcast.
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:Hello?
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:Hello, end.
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:Hello.
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:Okay, just to lock.
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:All right.
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:Hey, it's Sunday.
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:Uh, and we have a unique Sunday this week.
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:In fact, last week, this week, next week,
we've been going through the type of
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:church that we envision ourselves being.
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:Our mission is reaching teaching training.
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:We want to do that as a fulfillment
of the great commission.
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:We take that from that passage there.
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:Uh, and we believe that that's going
to produce a church that is three
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:things, Christ, exalting, church
equipping, and a culture engaging.
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:And so today at church, if you've already
been with us, you already know this.
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:If you're on your way, then this
is what's coming up, but you're
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:going to hear a message on being
a church that's well equipped and.
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:You may think right away.
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:Okay.
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:We're going to talk about serving
in the church and that's true.
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:We are going to talk about
serving in the church, but.
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:Even more than that.
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:Uh, we're going to talk about
being committed to our church,
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:being all in with our church.
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:In fact, the point of the sermon
is this a church it's all in is
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:the church that's going to win.
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:Um, as we think about wanting to be a
winning church in we're going to define
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:that differently than probably some
other churches will, but we want to be
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:a winning church when it comes to the
great commission to doing what we're
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:after to, to fulfilling our mission.
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:Uh, then we need to be all in.
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:We need to be committed.
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:And a lot of that looks like that
first step that we're gonna talk
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:about this weekend is, uh, being
committed in community, in relationship
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:with one another in the church.
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:So.
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:Um, PR.
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:They're going to hear from me.
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:As, or if they've already heard from me
on this, probably by the time they're
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:listening to this, or maybe they're
getting ready to on their way into
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:church, but some of your thoughts on
the importance of community groups.
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:Uh, for our people, as in why that
relates to such a big part of what
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:it looks for us to be a church
that's well equipped because.
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:Uh, again, we think service, but
we're going to start by talking about
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:community before we even get the service.
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:There is
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:Rod: no such thing as a Christian.
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:That's thriving by himself.
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:There are times of necessity where we
can't have the kind of relationships with
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:others that we would want were in prison,
or there's some kind of isolation that
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:replaced into because of circumstances.
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:I think of a hospital visit where you're
primarily by herself, hopefully with lots
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:of visitors, but there are situations
where we can't be with other people.
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:In fact, one of the ways that you
can successfully torture somebody
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:is by putting them in isolation.
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:You can.
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:And in fact, I think that's illegal now.
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:I don't think you're allowed to
do that at the national level
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:when it comes to federal prison.
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:I could be wrong on that.
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:I haven't gone to prison
lately, so I'm not sure.
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:But I do know that it's one of the
things that God has designed us for.
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:We cannot thrive apart from the
community that God has placed us with.
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:In fact, most of the
scriptures that were, we enjoy.
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:Are written to a plural audience.
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:The letters themselves are written to the
church at Ephesus or a circular letter.
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:To the church, starting at emphasis,
perhaps, and meant to be sent to the
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:other churches in the areas, the,
the letters, primarily the tenor and
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:flavor of the church has communal.
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:And so from the very beginning, we
have this assumption that scripture
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:says, we're a body of believers.
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:We're not solo.
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:And I think that's a very different
mindset from what we have here
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:in contemporary Western culture.
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:We're primarily.
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:Individualistic.
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:We don't think in terms of community,
we don't think in terms of the plural,
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:but we're supposed to, we need to,
and it's for the good of our own
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:lives and it's for the good of others.
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:Even for those of us who
would consider ourselves.
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:Introverted.
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:And maybe a lot more introspective
and it feels like sometimes we
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:don't need that community aspect.
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:I think God still does a great
work and people like myself who
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:would call themselves introverted.
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:In the midst of community, we need
people who can shape us and sharpen us.
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:And we can't do that by herself.
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:Even if you have a really good Bible
on great Bible study software, we are
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:meant to live in community and to do
anything else is to commit spiritual.
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:Well, let's be less aggressive , than
the S word, but to commit some kind of.
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:Self-destruction let's call it that.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:That's exactly right in.
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:That's part of what we're talking
about tomorrow or today, I guess.
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:Um, And then also the other
component of it too is, and
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:this is, it goes hand in hand.
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:Yeah, for, for you and I to do
our job well with this church
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:and with this body we need.
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:This body to be all in with us.
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:We need this body to be committed to us,
and that's going to make us better at,
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:at shepherding, better at shepherding
the flock better at being able to, to
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:know what's going on with the lives of
the people that are a part of our church.
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:Um, If we're dealing with people that
show up on Sunday and then leave.
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:And that's the only interaction that
they have, and they're never plugging
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:into community groups and putting
themselves under the care of some of the
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:under shepherds in the church as well.
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:It's hard for us to feel like we can
really truly give an account for them.
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:Um, as far as how they're
doing spiritually.
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:So there's a measure of your
commitment to the church that,
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:that allows us as pastors.
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:Uh, to, to do our job more effectively.
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:And in, in the long run, that's
going to help you as well.
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:That's going to be beneficial to you
because you're going to have pastors that
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:are able to truly care for your souls.
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:Rod: Absolutely.
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:And in fact, you can make our jobs
are really hard and maybe even
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:impossible by being part of the
church without being a part of the
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:church in a true, sincere sense.
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:So if you hear about us, this is
one way for you to showcase your
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:commitment to our body believers.
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:You don't need a paper, you
don't need to have some kind of
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:ceremony at the front of the stage.
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:All we need is your commitment.
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:And that commitment makes a big difference
when it comes to the effectiveness
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:of the local church, it does,
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:PJ: it does a hundred percent.
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:We've got a question texted in.
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:So let's deal with that.
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:Uh, Genesis chapter 15,
which we've been in recently.
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:The question is this,
the sun is going down.
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:It says 15, 12, the sun was going down.
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:A deep sleep, fell on Abraham
and behold, a dreadful and
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:great darkness fell upon him.
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:The question is basically.
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:Why is this a dreadful darkness?
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:What is the fear that is seizing
Abraham here or Abraham at this time?
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:Um, my best thought is he's
overwhelmed by the, the significance
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:of this event, the presence of
God in, in a way that he had never
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:experienced before with this covenant
blessing that God has given to him.
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:And so.
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:Um, as he is in a deep
sleep, even in this.
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:I don't want to call it an unconscious
state, but there is a, an awareness
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:of the significance and the
weightiness of God's presence here
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:that is causing Abraham to feel.
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:Uh, the, the dread and the fear of
God that really, this is, I think
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:the only place that it talks about
Abraham being in dread or fear of, uh,
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:of Yahweh in any way, shape or form.
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:But that's my take on a
pastor out of your thoughts.
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:Rod: Yeah, I would agree with that.
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:I think of Isaiah chapter six,
where you have the foundations of
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:the thresholds shaking their smoke.
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:There's terror in the holiness of God.
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:And so I can't help, but see an element
of God's holiness being displayed here.
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:And I think that's, what's driving this.
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:It is not Abraham's goodness.
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:It is God's holiness.
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:It is his sense of rightness that
will accomplish the covenant.
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:The covenant.
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:Requirements.
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:. And so I think there's something
about the holiness of God
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:being displayed toward Abraham.
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:And I think it makes its mark.
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:I think Abraham does have a slightly
different view of God after the fact.
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:So I think it's a
relation to his holiness.
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:That's my best guess
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:PJ: on that.
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:Yep.
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:Yep.
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:I think so.
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:Good question though.
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:Glad it was written in and, uh, glad we
were able to answered on the podcast.
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:Y Genesis 22, 23 and 24
is our text for the day.
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:Uh, 22 is a familiar section.
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:It, it never gets easier year after year.
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:It never gets easier to read
what takes place in chapter 22.
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:This is the, the offering of Isaac.
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:Um, since the sacrifice of Isaac on
the top of the Bible and ESV here, but.
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:Really isn't.
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:Spoiler alert.
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:He's not actually sacrificed.
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:Um, but Abraham does go forward with
offering him to the Lord, to the
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:point of having tied and bound and
laid on top of the wood for the.
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:The burning or the burn
offering and picks up his knife.
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:Um, Before God stops him.
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:And it, what, what struck me a new this
time and I've seen it before, but just
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:again, this, the significance of this.
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:Uh, yes, this was going to be a
burnt offering, but before the burnt
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:offering would be able to be rendered,
Abraham had to first kill his son.
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:Uh, this was not passive that the
flames were going to do the work or
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:the smoke was going to do the work of
extinguishing the life of Isaac Abraham
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:picked up the knife to kill his son.
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:Um, Before offering him then as
a burnt offering to the Lord.
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:And so this is, this is, uh, the,
the, the tension, the weightiness, the
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:darkness of so much of this chapter
before Don intervenes and provides
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:the Ram in the thicket, which.
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:You know, is just Laden with the
symbolism of substitutionary atonement
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:and what ultimately God provided
for us through Christ, through
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:Christ on the cross, on our behalf.
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:But, um, this is a difficult passage
for us to read and as Christians to
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:walk away and be like, man, Okay.
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:I understand exactly why
get God did what he did.
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:I, I understand it, theologically
that God wanted Abraham to say,
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:I'm willing to give you everything.
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:It's just a difficult way to
go about the object lesson, but
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:we've just come off with joke too.
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:So I guess it's appropriate for
us to be looking at this on the
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:heels of Joe, your thoughts.
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:We are.
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:Rod: Yeah, I think this is one
of the best texts to support
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:penal substitutionary atonement.
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:For that very reason.
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:God gives us a glimpse, a preview.
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:If you will, a trailer to the movie
that tells us what his relationship
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:to us is going to be like.
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:So he says here in verse 14, Abraham
called the name of that place.
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:The Lord will provide.
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:As it, as it is said to this day on the
Mount of the Lord, it shall be provided.
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:And of course, this is the same place
where God does provide his one and true
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:sacrifice, uh, atoning for our sin.
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:So I love this chapter.
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:It's a hard one to read.
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:And I think if I were Abraham, I would
really struggle with this, but I really do
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:love the way that it paints the picture of
the gospel before the gospel took place.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:Now you guys may remember, uh, A
little while ago, we had, uh, a
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:younger listener of the podcast.
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:Let us know about the y'all Bible that was
on a youth version or something like that.
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:Well, I ordered a copy of it.
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:I have it in my hands right now.
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:Leather
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:Rod: goat skin.
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:Yes.
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:The pages are.
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:Element
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:PJ: preaching from it.
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:Right.
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:I expect that.
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:No, it's a, it's actually
a really bad text block.
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:It's paperback.
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:But.
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:The translation is based off.
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:I think you looked at it, the ASP yeah.
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:American standard version, which
is the predecessor of the ESV.
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:The RSV.
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:Yeah.
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:So there's a lot of similarities there.
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:Anyways.
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:I thought you might get a, a little
bit of a kick out of some of the
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:language that he brings in here.
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:The translator the editor does here.
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:So.
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:The writer of Hebrews
implies that Abraham here.
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:Trusted that even if God had
him kill Isaac, that Isaac
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:was going to be resurrected.
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:He says by faith, Abraham believed
that he would receive a son back.
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:Right.
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:And so, and I think we
see a little bit of that.
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:Here in, uh, in Genesis 22.
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:And I'll just read the, the y'all
Bible to give you the flare there.
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:It says on the third day, verse
four, Abraham lifted up his
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:eyes and saw the place far off.
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:And Abraham said to his young man, the
servants that came with him, he said,
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:y'all stay here with the donkey, the boy.
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:And I will go over there and we
will worship and come back to y'all.
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:Abraham took the wood of the burnt
offering and laid it on Isaac, his
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:son, and went up from that point.
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:So.
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:He's telling us servants there and, and
the y'all comes in in the y'all Bible
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:here, Hey, we're going up here to, to
worship and we will come back to you.
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:And so that may be some of what the
writer of Hebrews picks up on and shed
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:some light via the divine commentary
of the word of God to let us know that
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:Abraham thought, man, even if I do have
to kill my son because of God's promise
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:that he is the son of the promise.
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:I believe that God is going to
resurrect them and get them back to me.
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:Um, and then wouldn't have
made it any easier, right?
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:No, I mean, yeah.
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:It's it's not hard.
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:And we don't want to spend a lot
of time ruminating there mentally,
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:but it's not hard to think, man,
if he, even if God told you, you.
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:Your son will, we'll come back
to life, but you you've got to
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:kill them for me that still don't
make that any easier at all.
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:Uh, and there would need to be some
family counseling probably after that.
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:I think it'd be a running joke.
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:Rod: Dad, can I have a new camel?
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:Remember when you killed me, dad.
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:You know, one of those things.
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:Yeah.
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:I think it might go a long way.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:Yeah, but I think, you know, your, your,
your point of emphasis on substitutionary
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:penal atonement here is well taken.
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:I think that's a lot of what
we're, we're seeing here.
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:Rod: Uh, okay.
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:One thing to not miss and
we brought it up last year.
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:I just wanna make sure we
bring it up again this year.
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:And I think I alluded to it is that
this location where this takes place.
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:Mount Moran is Mount Moriah
is typically associated with
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:Jerusalem that this is where.
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:Jesus is crucified essentially,
and where he atones for our sin.
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:So the second Chronicles three one
is where we get those connections.
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:Genesis 2 22 Mount
Moriah, second Chronicles.
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:31 is where we make those connections.
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:Some people ask, where's the mountain.
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:What specific mountain
are we talking about here?
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:Um, and really Jerusalem
is kind of elevated.
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:So the whole thing serves
as a mountain of sorts.
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:So we're going to take it at face
value and say, okay, God intended
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:for this to be a foreshadowing
of what he would eventually do.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:I mean, if you go there today
that the connection is made
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:actually to the temple Mount.
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:Um, that this becomes the
threshing floor of, of a runner,
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:the Gebbie site and right.
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:That that's the police that
David purchases that becomes the
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:temple Mount in that is today.
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:Under the current dome of the rock
was it, which is an Islamic shrine.
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:They believe is the rock where,
and we've talked about this before.
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:In one of the most recent episodes where
the Muslim people will say, this is where
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:Abraham offered Ishmael on this rock.
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:And we, as Christians would say, no,
that's the historic place, the traditional
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:place of where Abraham offered Isaac.
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:So, um, The traditional lease holds
that this became the same mountain
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:that the temple was built upon.
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:And you can still go there
today and underneath the dome
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:of the rock, find the rock.
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:Uh, which is why it's called
the dome of the rock, the rock
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:where Abraham bounded Laden.
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:Isaac as Christians, we would say.
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:Genesis 23.
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:Uh, This is another blow.
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:Sarah dies.
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:And Abraham.
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:In this chapter, acquires a
field and Canaan with a cave
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:in it there to bury his wife.
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:And it's significant that he wants
to own it and purchase the cave.
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:I think really because of
the fact that, that this is.
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:Uh, not only his wife and he wants to
honor her in the sacrifices worthy in,
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:in worth the honor, but also because
it's it's, he wants to own the land.
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:This is significant.
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:This is going to become a
significant place for him.
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:This is where he's going
to be buried as well.
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:So.
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:Um, that's what's going on in
this interchange here, but this
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:is, uh, the, the death of the
matriarch, this the death of Sarah.
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:Uh, and, uh, Abraham Barry's
heard there in Canaan.
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:Chapter 24 then.
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:Abraham towards the end of his life now.
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:Uh, commission's a servant to go
back to his Homeland to take away for
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:Isaac, because he did not want Isaac
to marry from the foreigners there.
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:And so through divinely ordained
circumstances, the servant
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:prays and says, Hey God.
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:Make it be this way and
God answers that prayer.
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:Uh, and Rebecca is the one that is
identified and comes back with the
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:servant to become Isaac's wife.
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:Uh, the.
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:There's a, an interchange here where they
say, Hey, let her stay for a little while.
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:And he says, no, no, no, no.
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:I need to go back.
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:This is pressing.
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:And, um, they let her go back.
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:And, uh, one name to note
here, cause he's going to be
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:significant is Rebecca's brother.
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:Whose name is Laban?
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:We're going to pick up on Laban
with the story of Jacob later on,
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:but right now, This is that family
and Rebecca is taken back now.
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:No, it says that she went back
with her nurse, uh, that, that
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:jumped out to me this time.
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:I kind of did a little digging there.
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:This nurse's name we're going to
find out later on is, is Debra.
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:And during this time in history,
a nurse was considered as almost
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:a second mother in the family.
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:Ed.
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:Uh, a dear member of the family.
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:So that's why the nurse
goes back with Rebecca.
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:It was, uh, as though she was a mentor, a.
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:I'd stop short of calling her discipler,
but, but somebody significant for Rebecca.
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:So she goes back with Rebecca.
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:Uh, with, uh, this servant to go back
as Rebecca goes to become Isaac's wife.
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:There you have it.
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:Genesis 22, 23, 24.
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:Any other points on, on either
of those last two chapters BR one
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:thing I noticed about Isaac that
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:Rod: struck me is that he's meditating.
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:When Rebecca meets him for the first
time he's out in the field meditating,
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:which I thought was interesting because
you don't see this about anybody.
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:I don't think you find anyone in the book
of Genesis who's meditating, but he is.
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:And that's a really great start for him.
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:I don't think that his godliness
extends all the way through his life.
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:There's certainly flaws in Isaac's
life, but this is really cool.
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:He's meditating in the
field toward the evening.
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:And then she sees him.
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:I think that's really a
really special first meet.
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:That's what you would call a meet.
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:Cute.
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:He's meditating.
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:She's levitating.
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:They're both seeing each other and just,
I dunno, it seems like a really sweet.
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:First experience with of one another,
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:PJ: and then they got married and then
they got up early in the morning and
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:the Instagram, their first DBR time.
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:We're still there with a cup of coffee.
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:Yup.
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:Yup.
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:All right.
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:Well, Hey, let's pray.
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:And then we'll be done with this episode.
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:God, we thank you for the reality
that Genesis 22 pointed towards
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:that, that we now know as believers
that you provided, not a Ram, but
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:your son, the lamb of God to be.
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:Our substitutionary atoning sacrifice.
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:And so through faith in him, we can
know that our payment has been made.
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:Uh, that we don't have to offer ourselves
on the altar or anything else that we
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:have Christ that satisfied your wrath.
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:And so we are so grateful for that
and help us to be increasingly.
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:So as each day, Uh, passes
as we draw closer to the time
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:of meeting him face to face.
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:We thank you for this and
pray this in Jesus name.
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:Amen.
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:And then, Hey, keeping your Bibles guys
and tune in again tomorrow for another
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:Bye.