Discover the world of commercial real estate investing, how it differs from residential real estate, and how it accelerates your journey to financial freedom! Clint Harris and Neil Henderson break down the key differences between residential and commercial real estate and reveal why the latter can be a game-changer for savvy investors.
You'll learn about the unique valuation methods for commercial properties and how understanding cap rates can unlock incredible potential for wealth creation. Clint and Neil also discuss the role of business plans, operator trust, and your ability to analyze opportunities when evaluating commercial real estate investments.
Don't miss this episode packed with valuable insights that can help you make informed decisions in the commercial real estate market.
[00:00] Intro
[01:29] Introducing Clint Harris and Neil Henderson
[02:15] The key differences between commercial and residential real estate
[04:12] Explaining valuation methods for residential properties
[05:45] Discussing the forced appreciation concept in commercial real estate
[07:21] The importance of understanding cap rates in commercial property valuation
[10:10] The role of net operating income in commercial real estate
[12:22] Evaluating opportunities and sponsors in real estate syndications
[15:03] The potential for massive value swings in commercial properties
[17:37] Why understanding commercial real estate is crucial for passive income investors
[21:54] Summary of key differences between commercial and residential real estate
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Are you struggling to find a way to generate passive income
Neil Henderson:through real estate investments?
Neil Henderson:What if we told you there's a world of opportunities in
Neil Henderson:commercial real estate, far beyond traditional residential properties.
Neil Henderson:In this episode, Clint Harris and I explain the difference between commercial
Neil Henderson:and residential real estate investing.
Neil Henderson:Unlocking the secrets to creating truly passive income by understanding asset
Neil Henderson:valuation, cap rates, forced appreciation, and partnering with skilled operators.
Neil Henderson:Don't miss this game-changing conversation that could transform
Neil Henderson:your passive investment strategies and help you achieve financial freedom.
Neil Henderson:Welcome to the Truly Passive Income Podcast.
Neil Henderson:I'm Neil.
Clint Harris:And I'm Clint.
Clint Harris:Today on the Truly Passive Income Podcast, we're gonna be talking
Clint Harris:about the differences between residential and commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:Now, I know that it seems that we've had a pretty big focus on
Clint Harris:real estate right off the bat.
Clint Harris:We're not always gonna be talking about that.
Clint Harris:We're gonna explore a lot of other things and everything that's truly passive,
Clint Harris:but specifically, uh, real estate is an asset class that for thousands
Clint Harris:of years has been proven to generate passive income all across the globe.
Clint Harris:So that's one of the things that keeps rising to the top and in our journey
Clint Harris:to identify truly passive income.
Clint Harris:That's something that we're gonna continue to have focus on.
Clint Harris:And to do that we want to educate you on some of the basic principles,
Clint Harris:definitions, and understanding about some of the things specifically
Clint Harris:within real estate that are helpful in generating truly passive income.
Clint Harris:Neil today, why don't you start us off give us an introduction of the
Clint Harris:differences between residential and commercial real estate.
Neil Henderson:Yeah.
Neil Henderson:So as we're indicating there's two primary, categories of real
Neil Henderson:estate, and that's residential and commercial, and there's some really
Neil Henderson:key differences that we want to define for you and explain for you.
Neil Henderson:I think it's very important for you to understand when you are looking to
Neil Henderson:invest passively in this asset class.
Neil Henderson:Some of the key differences.
Neil Henderson:First is the purpose, with residential real estate.
Neil Henderson:Residential is generally used for living, whereas commercial is
Neil Henderson:generally used for doing business.
Neil Henderson:Now there's a couple of ways where they cross over, but that's the
Neil Henderson:general, high level differences.
Neil Henderson:They also have different owners.
Neil Henderson:They typically have different buyers and they have different sellers.
Neil Henderson:and they also, have different types of financing.
Neil Henderson:A residential mortgage is typically very different from a commercial mortgage.
Neil Henderson:and then finally, we're gonna talk about the ways in which they're valued.
Neil Henderson:Residential real estate is valued very differently from the way that
Neil Henderson:commercial real estate is valued.
Neil Henderson:Clint, why don't you dig a little bit deeper into how we define residential
Neil Henderson:versus commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:So residential real estate is typically what most
Clint Harris:people are familiar with because we all have to have a place to live.
Clint Harris:So if you're a homeowner, whether it's a town home or a condo, single
Clint Harris:family home, anything like that, that's traditional residential real estate.
Clint Harris:It's used for living.
Clint Harris:The most common type across America is obviously a single family home, but it
Clint Harris:can also be a small multifamily home, duplexes, triplexes, or quadplexes.
Clint Harris:Typically residential and residential loans.
Clint Harris:For residential real estate can be anything four units or less, but it can
Clint Harris:also be things like a vacation rental.
Clint Harris:So a residential property that's being used for Airbnb, that still
Clint Harris:counts as a residential property.
Clint Harris:So usually anything four units or less, that's a vacation rental.
Clint Harris:Also, including condos and town homes, even if the building itself
Clint Harris:may be owned, but the land is not.
Clint Harris:That's all traditional types of residential real estate and a lot of
Clint Harris:those can be used for passive investing and different types of real estate
Clint Harris:investing, not all of which are passive on top of that the real difference
Clint Harris:is that with commercial real estate, the valuation and what the building
Clint Harris:is used for is completely different.
Clint Harris:So commercial real estate is typically used for business.
Clint Harris:It can include some residential properties if they're also used to
Clint Harris:generate rental income, things like that.
Clint Harris:But more traditionally, when you think of commercial real estate, you're
Clint Harris:thinking about office buildings, retail stores, strip malls and centers,
Clint Harris:warehouses, industrial buildings, self storage facilities, apartment complexes,
Clint Harris:or honestly any multifamily that's five units or larger or mobile home
Clint Harris:parks, things like that are some of the more common, things that we think
Clint Harris:of in terms of the core definition of what is commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:Neil, why don't you tell us about what some of the differences are.
Neil Henderson:Sure.
Neil Henderson:as you talked about some of the types of buildings, again, residential is
Neil Henderson:typically used for living, whereas commercial is typically used for business.
Neil Henderson:But sometimes that business is providing a place for people to live.
Neil Henderson:In that case I'm talking about apartment buildings, and that's, typically it's
Neil Henderson:classified, five units or more is gonna be classified as a commercial
Neil Henderson:not a residential building anymore.
Neil Henderson:And this is where you're talking about, apartment buildings and apartment
Neil Henderson:complexes and things like that.
Neil Henderson:And some of the other things are who owns them.
Neil Henderson:So with residential, it's typically families or individuals who need a place
Neil Henderson:to live, whereas with commercial, it's typically owned by businesses and or
Neil Henderson:investors, looking to generate income or for a place for them to do their business.
Neil Henderson:And these buyers and sellers, there's also different buyers and sellers for
Neil Henderson:different types of Two asset classes, and they have different motivations.
Neil Henderson:Now with residential real estate, you're typically talking families or
Neil Henderson:individuals who need a place to live.
Neil Henderson:they're gonna be motivated by personal factors, things like location,
Neil Henderson:proximity to employers and schools.
Neil Henderson:Schools is a huge one when it comes to residential real estate.
Neil Henderson:they're also looking at the size.
Neil Henderson:Someone just out of college who's single and not married has very
Neil Henderson:different needs as far as the size of place to live than, a married couple
Neil Henderson:with two kids, three kids and a dog.
Neil Henderson:they're also gonna be motivated by amenities on the property.
Neil Henderson:Does it have a pool?
Neil Henderson:does it have a large yard?
Neil Henderson:Is it close to parks?
Neil Henderson:Is it close to the kinds of things that they want to do?
Neil Henderson:Is it close the beach is close to a lake, whatever.
Neil Henderson:With commercial, you're primarily composed of investors and businesses
Neil Henderson:looking to buy or lease the property for their operations.
Neil Henderson:They're gonna be motivated by much more financial considerations.
Neil Henderson:Things like, what is the potential income that this property can produce?
Neil Henderson:Is there a potential for them to increase the income?
Neil Henderson:Is there a potential to decrease the expenses on the property?
Neil Henderson:Which would then increase the overall income.
Neil Henderson:And then is there an opportunity for them to improve the operations at that site.
Neil Henderson:Finally, not finally, but also as far as location, they're looking at their
Neil Henderson:access to customers and suppliers.
Neil Henderson:They're gonna be much more interested in the visibility of a building, is it on a
Neil Henderson:main street where there's a high traffic count, is it highly visible from the road?
Neil Henderson:Does it have easy access for customers to get in and out of that area?
Neil Henderson:How close are they to their suppliers?
Neil Henderson:If they're a shipping company are having to move all the way across
Neil Henderson:the country and it's gonna cost them a lot of money, that's gonna be a
Neil Henderson:factor that they're gonna think about.
Neil Henderson:and then finally, The size of the building, what scale
Neil Henderson:do they need to operate?
Neil Henderson:Obviously, a small mom and pop retail, company is gonna have
Neil Henderson:very different needs than a large shipping company that needs a lot of
Neil Henderson:warehouse space and things like that.
Neil Henderson:There's also a major difference in the way that financing works between
Neil Henderson:residential and commercial real estate.
Neil Henderson:a lot of people are very familiar with the way that residential mortgages work.
Neil Henderson:It's based on the credit worthiness of the buyer and their ability
Neil Henderson:to pay the monthly mortgage.
Neil Henderson:It's also based on the evaluation of the property by an appraiser at the
Neil Henderson:time of closing, and it's typically a 30 year mortgage with a 30 year term
Neil Henderson:at a fixed rate with 20% down if you are going to live in the property.
Neil Henderson:Now, there are cases where you can put less down.
Neil Henderson:There's FHA loans that require less, you can put as little as 3% down.
Neil Henderson:There's VA loans where they can get in for almost zero down.
Neil Henderson:but for purposes of here, we'll get into more detail on that later.
Neil Henderson:It's typically 20% down if you're buying it as an investment property, the lender's
Neil Henderson:typically require you to put 25% down.
Neil Henderson:Now with commercial, it's based on the projected income of the property
Neil Henderson:and the experience of the borrower.
Neil Henderson:It's not so much on their ability to pay, but it will sometimes
Neil Henderson:require a key principle with enough net worth to cover the loan, to
Neil Henderson:make the lender feel comfortable.
Neil Henderson:If you are brand new to the storage industry and you go out there and you
Neil Henderson:find a great storage facility that you wanna acquire, and it's gonna require a
Neil Henderson:2 million loan for you to buy it, and you have no experience in self storage, the
Neil Henderson:lender's probably gonna want some person to sign on a loan that has some sort of
Neil Henderson:experience in the self-storage industry, to give them a little more comfort that
Neil Henderson:you're not gonna just screw this up.
Neil Henderson:With commercial, there are many different types of lending, and I'm not gonna go
Neil Henderson:into a whole lot of detail on these yet.
Neil Henderson:But there're bridge loans, there're construction loans, there are things
Neil Henderson:called mezzanine loans, and there's also much more varied terms when
Neil Henderson:it comes to commercial lending.
Neil Henderson:Uh, They're often shorter terms, they'll often have 25 year amortization, meaning
Neil Henderson:that the payoff period will be 25 years, but they'll often have a balloon payment
Neil Henderson:due in anywhere from five to 10 years.
Neil Henderson:And that, we won't get into detail here, but that becomes very important
Neil Henderson:when you are investing in a deal to understand when that loan is due,
Neil Henderson:because, you don't want to have to pay off a loan when the market cycle is
Neil Henderson:doing something you don't want to do.
Neil Henderson:And then finally, there's typically a higher down payment.
Neil Henderson:It's typically 25 to 30%, but again, there are things called SBA loans, small
Neil Henderson:business administration loans where you can, get in for a lower amount.
Neil Henderson:And it can also often be a variable rate.
Neil Henderson:you'll, you're typically not going to have a fixed rate.
Neil Henderson:A lot of times you can get into a commercial loan, especially
Neil Henderson:construction loans, where it will be an interest only period for
Neil Henderson:anywhere from two to three years.
Neil Henderson:And then it will go to, a full repayment schedule.
Neil Henderson:Clint, why don't you talk about the different ways that we value
Neil Henderson:residential real estate, and then I'll talk about different ways
Neil Henderson:we value commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:Neil that was excellent, and I think really going through those
Clint Harris:key differences leads us up to the point in the discussion where we are now,
Clint Harris:which is the valuation on the property.
Clint Harris:And this is what I would say is the real meat of the discussion today.
Clint Harris:We're trying to be very high level with this episode and bring a little bit of
Clint Harris:education in terms of residential and commercial real estate but here's the key.
Clint Harris:If you understand the things that you just went through, the
Clint Harris:different types of financing.
Clint Harris:The underlying principle that real estate investors talk about
Clint Harris:all the time, and it's become really a buzzword, is value add.
Clint Harris:People talk about any type of property that has some type of
Clint Harris:value add in their ability to increase the value of the property.
Clint Harris:The key to that, in my opinion, is understanding how the property is valued
Clint Harris:and the key differences that you just went through with residential and commercial
Clint Harris:real estate also have very key differences in the valuation on the property.
Clint Harris:So the most common one that most people are familiar with is the valuation
Clint Harris:on residential real estate, which is typical if you've ever bought a home
Clint Harris:or your parents owned a home growing up, it went through the process of the
Clint Harris:valuation, typically by an appraiser.
Clint Harris:If you go through the regular mortgage process is established based upon
Clint Harris:the location of the property, the size, usually the square footage,
Clint Harris:the number of bedrooms and bathrooms, and the condition of the property.
Clint Harris:So what's going to happen?
Clint Harris:My wife is a full-time real estate agent, and when someone goes
Clint Harris:under contract on the property, they're gonna typically get a loan.
Clint Harris:A lot of times in our market, they may just pay cash, but in most markets,
Clint Harris:they're gonna get a loan for the property.
Clint Harris:The value of the property can be estimated by the real estate agent.
Clint Harris:They run what's called a CMA or a comparative market analysis.
Clint Harris:Some people will call it comps.
Clint Harris:They're gonna run the comps and look at, okay, in this location, a house with
Clint Harris:this number of bedrooms and bathrooms, that's this far from X, Y, Z amenities,
Clint Harris:and it's in this school district.
Clint Harris:You're comparing it to three, sometimes more properties that have sold in that
Clint Harris:area, a similar neighborhood within the last six months, and you're looking at
Clint Harris:the value of the bricks and the sticks of where it is, what it is, of the
Clint Harris:condition and everything like that.
Clint Harris:So it's gonna be based upon what else has sold in the last six months or so,
Clint Harris:and sometimes when the market is really shooting up fast, it can be hard for
Clint Harris:those appraisals to keep up with it.
Clint Harris:we just went through a period where the market was appreciating so
Clint Harris:fast that if you were looking at homes that sold six months ago, the
Clint Harris:prices were 20 to $30,000 higher.
Clint Harris:And so a lot of people were having to pay cash to make up the difference there.
Clint Harris:But basically that's the valuation of residential real estate.
Clint Harris:And so when it comes to things like flipping properties or fixing
Clint Harris:properties up and rehabbing them or increasing the value of the property.
Clint Harris:The way that you're gonna do that is by adding amenities, expanding, adding
Clint Harris:on additional rooms or adding square footage or just overall bringing the
Clint Harris:property up from a B level property to an A level property, things like that.
Clint Harris:So this gets back to what we've talked about before, is
Clint Harris:the concept of appreciation.
Clint Harris:And you've got natural appreciation of buying in the right area where
Clint Harris:the school district continues to get better and better.
Clint Harris:Or maybe you get rezoned into a new school district and then
Clint Harris:suddenly the value of the properties in that area are gonna go up.
Clint Harris:So there's things like natural appreciation that you can try to be aware
Clint Harris:of by being in the path of progression.
Clint Harris:But there's also things like forced appreciation and that's where
Clint Harris:you're fixing the property up.
Clint Harris:You're putting in new granite countertops, stainless steel appliances.
Clint Harris:You're ripping out the carpet, you're putting in LVP
Clint Harris:flooring and things like that.
Clint Harris:It also can, because some residential properties can be Airbnb
Clint Harris:or vacation rental properties.
Clint Harris:In those smaller properties, you can also fix the property up and
Clint Harris:increase the forced appreciation by maximizing the rental income.
Clint Harris:So those are the basic ways that, that a house or single family home or residential
Clint Harris:real estate is gonna be valued.
Clint Harris:An appraiser's gonna look at the condition, the location, and the
Clint Harris:market, and they're gonna tell you what the property's worth.
Clint Harris:And the way that you can increase the value is by increasing the size,
Clint Harris:increasing the condition, and things like that, cuz you can't change the location.
Clint Harris:You're a little bit limited in how you can affect the valuation on the property.
Clint Harris:There are certain levers that you can pull to get that done, but it's not
Clint Harris:nearly as easily influenced as a lot of things are in the commercial space.
Clint Harris:Neil, you wanna jump in on that?
Neil Henderson:Sure.
Neil Henderson:And the point Clint is trying to make here is that, I'm gonna go over this, is
Neil Henderson:that, with residential real estate, things are a little more based on the market,
Neil Henderson:uh, a little more, little bit more based on factors that you cannot control, and
Neil Henderson:that's really what it comes down to.
Neil Henderson:With commercial real estate, at a high level, there's just more levers that you
Neil Henderson:can pull that you can control in order to raise the value of that property.
Neil Henderson:So when it comes to commercial real, when you're valuing, you're
Neil Henderson:gonna look at the location and the size, but most importantly, the
Neil Henderson:potential income that it can produce.
Neil Henderson:And that's often how commercial estate is valued, is what is
Neil Henderson:the income it can produce?
Neil Henderson:And if it's a property that is not producing income, if it's just an empty
Neil Henderson:building, you're often going to get into something called price per square.
Neil Henderson:you're gonna basically come up with a, something that sounds fair based
Neil Henderson:on the market, based on that type of asset class and that market, and
Neil Henderson:that's what you're gonna buy it on.
Neil Henderson:But what we're gonna focus on here right now is on when they value it
Neil Henderson:based on income, and they'll use something called the market cap rate.
Neil Henderson:And cap rate stands for capitalization rate, and I'll define that in a second.
Neil Henderson:divided by the net operating income.
Neil Henderson:And net operating income is the gross income that a property produces,
Neil Henderson:minus its expenses, not including debt service, so not including the mortgage.
Neil Henderson:So if a property produces $200,000 annually In gross income and it has a
Neil Henderson:$100,000 in expenses, you would say that its net operating income is a $100,000.
Neil Henderson:Now, A cap rate, capitalization rate.
Neil Henderson:A cap rate is a way to measure how much money an investor can
Neil Henderson:expect to make from a property, and it's calculated by dividing the
Neil Henderson:property's net income by its value.
Neil Henderson:And cap rates are used to help people decide whether or not to
Neil Henderson:buy or sell a commercial property.
Neil Henderson:The value of a commercial property is based on the cap rate, which
Neil Henderson:can change depending on various factors such as interest rates,
Neil Henderson:the type of property, the market.
Neil Henderson:It's the closest thing that can be defined for me as what you would call a
Neil Henderson:comparative market analysis, is how it reflects back to residential real estate.
Neil Henderson:And cap rates are an important thing to consider when buying, when
Neil Henderson:evaluating a commercial property.
Neil Henderson:But it's not the most important.
Neil Henderson:It's not the be all end all, but basically the way you can look at it is; a cap
Neil Henderson:rate is how much money you're going to make on the property if it has no debt.
Neil Henderson:So for instance, if it's a $1,000,000 property, you've bought it for a
Neil Henderson:$1,000,000 cash and it has $200,000 in gross income, a $100,000 in expenses,
Neil Henderson:it produces a $100,000 annual income.
Neil Henderson:Then you would say its cap rate is 10%, a $100,000 divided by a $1,000,000.
Neil Henderson:Now, that's very high level, and we'll go into more detail at a later
Neil Henderson:time, but that's basically what you need to understand about the way that
Neil Henderson:commercial real estate is valued.
Clint Harris:Right.
Clint Harris:One of the reasons that's so important is a lot of times it's
Clint Harris:not about calculating the cap rate.
Clint Harris:It's understanding at what cap rates certain asset classes are
Clint Harris:trading at, whether it's self storage or a mobile home park.
Clint Harris:They may be trading at an eight cap or things like that.
Clint Harris:So typically what you're looking at the cap rate is the net operating
Clint Harris:income divided by the sales price.
Clint Harris:The real key there is that if you understand that equation.
Clint Harris:Is very easy to manipulate.
Clint Harris:You can increase the net operating income and at the same cap rate,
Clint Harris:it can drastically increase the value of the property.
Clint Harris:And again, we'll get into that a little bit deeper, but that's just
Clint Harris:one example of that definition we're gonna talk a lot more about
Clint Harris:and it's gonna become more clear.
Clint Harris:But the question is, why is it important for you to know this?
Clint Harris:We're going through a lot of definitions and differences between
Clint Harris:residential and commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:Here's why.
Clint Harris:Passive income comes from investing in other people's businesses or in
Clint Harris:properties where you can control the value in a fixed and known way.
Clint Harris:The cap rate is the net operating income divided by the
Clint Harris:sales price of the property.
Clint Harris:So if you buy the property for a million dollars, but then you can
Clint Harris:double the net operating income.
Clint Harris:At the same cap rate, you just doubled the value of the property, potentially
Clint Harris:depending on the purchase price.
Clint Harris:But the reason it's important for you to know how the differences in the asset
Clint Harris:classes and how they are valued is so that when it comes to the forced appreciation
Clint Harris:and your ability to control the value of that property or investing in someone
Clint Harris:else's business, you know how to ask the questions of how they can control the.
Clint Harris:So in the world of, specifically in real estate syndications, the
Clint Harris:hardest part is evaluating the opportunities that are out there.
Clint Harris:You're looking at the sponsors, you're looking at the
Clint Harris:projects and things like that.
Clint Harris:The key to understanding what you're looking at and whether they
Clint Harris:are good deals or bad deals is understanding the business plan.
Clint Harris:Understanding the way that the asset class is valued and understanding what
Clint Harris:levers can be pulled in terms of value add, or expansion or business operation,
Clint Harris:that can increase that net operating income and increase the value of the
Clint Harris:property because the increase in the value of the property along with the cash
Clint Harris:flows is going to equal your returns.
Clint Harris:And that's why it's so important for you to understand the difference in
Clint Harris:residential and commercial real estate.
Clint Harris:There's very little you can do to change the value of a residential property.
Clint Harris:There's a lot you can do to change the value of a commercial property.
Clint Harris:If you understand that and the way that the property is valued and the business
Clint Harris:plan that's going to be executed on the property, you can estimate what
Clint Harris:the increase in value is gonna be, which along with the cash flows is
Clint Harris:going to determine what your income is.
Clint Harris:And once you have the ability to understand the valuation and trust the
Clint Harris:operator, it puts you in a position where they can use their time and experience.
Clint Harris:You invest your capital and if you have done the analysis appropriately, it should
Clint Harris:increase your value and be a completely, truly passive investment for you.
Neil Henderson:Gotcha.
Neil Henderson:All right, so I'm gonna just wrap up what we covered here.
Neil Henderson:just review it a little bit.
Neil Henderson:So again, there are really key differences between residential
Neil Henderson:and commercial real estate.
Neil Henderson:again, residential is typically a place to live.
Neil Henderson:Commercial is a place to do business.
Neil Henderson:It's typically, except when it comes to residential, that is five units or
Neil Henderson:more, and that's, an apartment building.
Neil Henderson:The key differences are the types of buildings, the types of buyers and
Neil Henderson:sellers and how they're financed.
Neil Henderson:They're also valued in a very different way, which we just covered.
Neil Henderson:Residential is valued by the comps sold within, let's say, the last
Neil Henderson:three to six months within a certain radius, whereas commercial is valued
Neil Henderson:by the income it produces divided by the capitalization rate of that asset
Neil Henderson:class in that market, or if it's a completely vacant building, it can also
Neil Henderson:be valued by its price per square foot.
Neil Henderson:The ways in which you can increase the value of commercial real estate
Neil Henderson:are much more concrete and repeatable.
Neil Henderson:And that's why you're gonna hear us keep coming back to talking about
Neil Henderson:that cause that's really what is so attractive about commercial real estate.
Neil Henderson:Alright, so there you have it.
Neil Henderson:That's the basic difference in residential real estate.
Neil Henderson:Clint, did you have anything to add before we go?.
Clint Harris:I think that you did a great job of wrapping it up.
Clint Harris:The real key is going to be that value add that you just mentioned, that the
Clint Harris:valuation of the building comes from the net operating income and the purchase
Clint Harris:price of the building or in the cap rate.
Clint Harris:But if the building is empty, The valuation may just be on
Clint Harris:the brick and mortar, just the empty building sitting there.
Clint Harris:So your ability to turn an empty building into a building that has
Clint Harris:a tenant in it or a business in it that's generating net operating income
Clint Harris:has the potential to vastly increase the value of that property depending
Clint Harris:on what the net operating income is.
Clint Harris:And anytime you see a big value delta like that change, from basically an
Clint Harris:empty building to an operating business.
Clint Harris:The building can be sold or refinanced as a business now instead of just the
Clint Harris:brick and mortar that has potential income to create a massive value swing.
Clint Harris:And anytime there's a massive value swing that delta, that middle ground,
Clint Harris:that's where you're making your money.
Clint Harris:And as long as you find an operator that knows how to do that, It puts you
Clint Harris:in a position to recognize opportunity and partner with those people to
Clint Harris:create some truly passive income.
Neil Henderson:All right.
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