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In this week's Wellness Wednesday episode, Evan is joined by Dr. Jeff Crippen. Dr. Jeff is a chiropractor, nutritionist, and author. Dr. Jeff, much like Evan, has experienced health difficulties in his early years of life including a debilitating headache that had lasted for 2 years of Dr. Jeff's life! However, Dr. Jeff was able to identify and cure this headache, and is now in a position to share his experience and knowledge with others to help them find a cure.

In this episode you're going to learn about:

• What are main causes of headaches
• What can you do to get rid of headaches
• How to identify the cause of a headache
• What role health and nutrition play in fixing headaches
• How we can use the placebo affect to our benefit
• How past difficult experiences shape our current reality
• What is the best type of vitamin C

It was an absolute pleasure having Dr. Jeff Crippen on the show, please leave a review on apple podcast or Spotify, share this episode with friends, family, and loved ones, and follow Dr. Jeff Crippen.

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Hey, what's going on everybody?

Welcome back to the Elemental Evan Show.

Super excited to have all of you here today, and also to be,

Able to hear this amazing guest that we have on the show today.

Today we have Dr.

Jeff Crippen.

He is a chiropractor, nutritionist, coach, um, and just gonna be an

all around health professional.

I'm really excited to hear, uh, his take on a lot of just topics of

health and I have some really great questions set up for him today.

So, uh, Dr.

Jeff, thank you so much for joining the show.

How are you doing?

Uh, wonderful ex excellent to be here and I, uh, appreciate the opportunity.

So thank you, Evan.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um, it's, it's always a pleasure for me to have, uh, a different

perspective on this show.

I know I like to ramble and have my own little episodes of me just, you know,

talking the, uh, listener's ear off.

But it is truly a pleasure, um, not only for the listener, but for

myself to have someone else on the show for, um, you know, a learning

opportunity for, for me as well.

So this is truly a pleasure and, um, you know, really.

A big reason why I started this show is because of a lot of health

issues that I've dealt with as a kid.

So, um, for those of you who don't know, and, uh, Dr.

Jeff, if you haven't heard this before, I have dealt with a lot of

gastrointestinal issues growing up.

Um, that's something that really actually brought me into the

health field and um, sure.

Really learning how to navigate and heal myself.

Uh, yeah.

You know, kind of on my own, um, because of, you know, I, I don't like

to blame the medical field in any way.

Cause I think they're doing the best with the tools they have, but

unfortunately it was not adequate.

Right?

And so I had to move to alternative methods and that led me here.

So it's a, you know, it's a, it's a blessing and disguise and, um, I think

everyone has a story, and I kind of know a little bit of yours, but I would love to

hear how you got into the field you're in.

Yeah.

Um, a hundred percent by accident, but that's kind of how life goes.

But I'm happy to, to, just to put a little more color on that story.

I, um, I remember, uh, you know, I, I went to get some blood work at some point

as a kid, and you know, you fill out that paperwork and you sit down, they

close that little window in front of you.

You sit in the waiting, waiting room, and my mom's with me and they called

me back and they said, son, I know what you're gonna be when you grow up.

And I was like, you know, 6, 7, 8 years old.

And like at that point, I, if I was sure of anything, it was astronaut.

Like, that's, that's what I was going for at that point in my life.

And then he goes, I go, what, what am I gonna be?

And she goes, uh, you're gonna be a doctor.

I said, what?

Why?

And she goes, cause I can't read anything you just wrote on this piece of paper.

So that's like, as, that's as close as I thought I was getting to, um,

where I am now, um, at that point.

But how it started was, you know, a similar story, uh, to yourself.

And the fact of it was just a chronic, um, Health condition that

caused a lot of frustration that I wasn't able to find answers for.

So in my case, it was headaches started when I was six years old.

Uh, you know, over the counter Tylenol, aspirin or you know,

Motrin Children's at that point.

Trying.

And then you go to your pediatrician and then try some stronger medications and

then some then prescription drugs and eventually, um, Wanted to do some imaging

of my brain because it got concerned of progressively, progressively, excuse

me, worsening headaches in a child.

So we did that, found a small mass in my brain, talked about brain surgery,

decided to go a different option.

Turned out it was a benign mass or growth.

Um, did another dozen or so MRIs over the next 10 years.

Found out it wasn't growing, which was fortunate.

Um, obviously did not have a growing mass in my head.

But, uh, a little disappointing to me as a child because I was kind of hopeful.

The doctor would find the cause of the headache.

Right.

I was just grasping for something.

Mm-hmm.

So, um, at its worst, the headaches, uh, I had the worst headache

I had lasted for two years.

So every moment, every day, nonstop for a couple years.

And so just like.

You know, it, it was hard to get off the couch, hard to walk, hard to,

you know, go through a day of school.

And anyway, just, it was, you know, very, very debilitating.

But I just like wasn't gonna let it stop me.

So I kept pushing through, but stopped playing sports, limited

hanging out with friends.

Like, it just like lived on the couch when I wasn't in school for

the better part of a couple years.

So, um, And the reason I guess I got into this is because in the

midst of that headache that lasted a couple years, I just decided I'm

not gonna go on living like this.

And I didn't really know what that meant.

Um, but I knew I wasn't gonna go on living like this, right?

It's like I needed to find some answer and, you know, I, I hoped it

was gonna be in the medical system.

In fact, I searched that for better part of five to 10 years or seven years.

And just kept finding more and more frustration.

So eventually I just realized, you know, probably in a similar to yourself, I

gotta figure out some of this myself.

And that launched me on a journey 25 years ago that eventually led

me to, um, Go to college actually changed my major in college.

Um, majored in Spanish, um, because I wanted something super useful

and, um, did pre-med classes, became a chiropractor, got a degree as a

certified traditional naturopath.

And I've been practicing for about, uh, 12 years now, working with other patients,

helping them, you know, kind of with their chronic debilitating conditions.

And either the patient's kind of fall into one or two groups.

One is they've been the medical system.

Maybe like yourself and they couldn't find help and they're frustrated

and they want another option.

And the second group is, you know, those who just don't even wanna

go to the medical system, they wanna look at the underlying cause.

They want to treat, you know, treat what's really going on.

And they want an approach that's not drugs and surgery.

You know, what can we do naturally or more holistically to improve my health?

So it's been my pleasure to, you know, build a practice around that

and been working with patients with that for the last 10 plus years.

Yeah.

Um, honestly, wow.

You know, I, uh, I think about what I went through as a kid, you

know, and it's like, there, there was struggle, you know what I mean?

But, um, nothing like a two year long headache that, you know, you have to

deal with for like your entire, uh, you know, for, you don't even know how long.

So, um, That is, that is really crazy.

I can only imagine what that was like.

And, uh, you know, I, I do, I do think though, um, I'm a big

believer in like, your struggle becomes your story and mm-hmm.

You know, it's, uh, it's one of those things where it's like you just

keep pushing and find a way, right.

It's, it's about never quitting.

And I think that's what, you know, ultimately brought both you and

I here is is that, Unwillingness to accept the, you know, the, the

situation we're dealt basically.

And, and just finding a way to, uh, to heal ourselves.

And so, on that note, um, I typically do not get a ton of headaches.

And I feel that most of my headaches are simply, you know,

literally the most textbook, like dehydration, you know what I mean?

Like just, yeah, sure.

Need to get a little bit more hydration and.

All good, but I know a ton of people who deal with regular headaches,

um, you know, migraines like just really, really, like you said, like

debilitating, uh, migraines and headaches.

So I would love to have your professional opinion and advice on what are some

of just the causes of these headaches and migraines, as well as what are

like some of the simple things that we could just be doing on the daily to.

Avoid these.

And even, even if it is just the hydration, like I I, that,

that usually works for me.

And I, I hate to throw it out there cuz I think some people are like, dude,

this is, water's not gonna cure me.

But yeah.

Yeah.

So I think, um, I mean, as you were saying that, I thought of the quote,

persistence alone is omnipotent.

Right.

I don't know.

That quote came to me as you were talking about your story.

Mm-hmm.

And just like sticking to it.

And it's something, um, you know, I agree with you.

I, I'd consider what I went through now a blessing if.

Somebody maybe would've told me that when I was going through it.

I don't know if I would've felt the same way.

Um, because it's just, you know, you're, when you're kind of in,

in that moment, uh, it's just, it's, you know, it's just survival.

It's just like, you know, survive in advance and just try to take it one,

you know, one step at a time to use a, you know, a cliche, but it's like you're

just trying to survive that one moment.

And half the time I was just trying to block out the pain, push it off as

much as I can to just try to, Try to go forward, but you know, You know, but I

can be, you know, so I can understand, you know, people listening to this and going

through something, say, be grateful for what you know, um, because I, I would've

been with you, um, going through that.

But, but, but that being said, it is, um, it was through that struggle

that helped me find, uh, purpose and passion, um, that, so anyway, super,

super grateful for it now, but that was a, that was a decades long, long

process to kind of, uh, tap into that.

Um, so.

You know, going to your question on headaches, and I think headaches are

a really interesting symptom because you mentioned, you know, you get 'em

sometimes, and it could be dehydration, and we could have a woman listening

to this podcast and she could get some around her cycle, and that

could be a different cause, right?

A hormonal cause we could have a young, uh, high school athlete, uh,

maybe a football player or a male or female soccer player get one after

a game, and it could be, you know, a symptom of a concussion, right?

Mm-hmm.

You could have, um, A college student get one early on a Sunday morning or late

on a Saturday night, be from too much alcohol or something else that evening.

Right.

Um, so there's, you know, the interesting thing about headaches is there's,

it's, there's not one single cause.

Right.

And that kind of gets in and medicine.

Um, you know, the solution if you're dehydrated.

Or I have a headache or somebody's hungover or you know, post, you

know, post-concussion, they might deal with it a little differently.

Or somebody with a hormonal headache.

Generally the solution's gonna be some kind of pain reliever, some

variation of take two and call me in the morning, suck it up, push through.

Um, and eventually if it gets bad enough, you know, stronger drugs.

Right?

But you know, your question's a good one because what's causing the headaches

isn't necessarily for any of those people.

An aspirin or a Tylenol deficiency.

Right.

So I think the first, right, the first way to answer your question

is, what do you do about a headache?

Is you gotta figure out what's going on, right?

And I think that is, um, I mean, yeah, that's, that's so, that's so key.

So that's the first step I would look at.

And in terms of, you know, I kind of take a, like a functional or holistic

nutritional view or functional and holistic view in respect to nutrition.

So what does that mean?

It means when somebody comes in, we'll do.

You know, nutritional assessments are energetic assessments of

different organs of their body, and what I typically find for headaches

is it has to do with underlying stress on one of four main organs.

So one would happen to be the brain, you know, a lot of.

You know, I, so eventually I go to chiropractic.

I'm gonna take a detour from that story to tell you this.

So I'm in chiropractic school and we take like a neurological diagnosis class

where they're teaching us about, you know, different neurological diseases.

And then we're going, we have a lecture on headaches or two

lectures or whatever it was.

And to hear them talk about headaches, I mean, it's just like,

None of them described anything I ever felt in my life, you know?

So it just feels like, you know, I think there's like a textbook idea

of what a headache, and then this is the practical application of it.

But you know, a lot of times from a medical standpoint, they're looking

at the vascular nature of a headache.

So they're looking at something to do with blood flow.

There's conflicting, I mean, just to show how confused the area is.

There's conflicting ideas, whether it's too much blood

flow or not enough blood flow.

Both of which they talk about causing headaches.

So I mean, just to give you an idea of, there's just, it's, it's generally an

unknown kind of what it is medically.

So, but from a functional, like nutritional perspective, what

I often find is stress hitting the body in one of four areas.

So I mentioned brain being one second, one is heart, cardiovascular in general.

Third is thyroid, and fourth is adrenals.

And then it's a matter of, you know, looking at which one of those

causes, uh, which organs weak.

See if you can find out what weakened that organ, what was the stressor that

kind of hit that tipping point, and then building a back up piece by piece.

And that's obviously, that's a holistic approach to solving

the, you know, the problem.

And then you could even go one step back and kind of address the stressor.

So what was the stressor?

What was the incident?

What was going on in the person's life behind it?

Now, all of that to say that's all what's sitting behind it.

The other option is a pain reliever from medicine or even.

You know, an herbal or a nutritional thing to alleviate the pain from

maybe a holistic minded doctor, but there's levels behind it of

what organs generating the pain.

What's that dysfunction a sign of?

And then even a step behind that, what was that domino that caused that dysfunction?

Um, so tho that's kind of the, that's kind of the, the mental framework

I would kind of work through that with, and I'm happy to go deeper

into any of those that are helpful.

Yeah, no, I think that was, uh, very beneficial.

I, I appreciate that breakdown.

Um, I'm, I find it interesting as well that you mentioned the,

uh, the adrenals and the thyroid.

Um, Yeah.

And, and that really makes sense to me.

I think that could actually be, yeah, a major issue for most people.

Just because obviously we are taxing our adrenal so heavily with, you

know, stimulants like caffeine, really just, you know, spiking that cortisol.

Um, and also just like you said, living in a stress state that's

also gonna spike that cortisol.

And, um, you know, not, not to say it's gonna be the same issue for everyone.

It's not everyone's having this issue with their adrenals, but I do think

that's, uh, probably a major one and.

Um, in, in terms of, of helping out these organs, like would you recommend,

um, for example, well obviously I think a cleaner diet is always obviously

a good option, but, uh, what about like, some kind of, um, like, um,

adaptogenic herbs, maybe like Sure.

Something that can really, um, you know, I'm thinking like Ashwaganda, for

example, off the top of my head for, uh, helping out with these adrenals.

Would that be like a good idea, would you say?

Sure.

So you're, you're definitely on the right track there.

And I think that's a really, um, I think that's a really great question because,

you know, there's a lot of herbal support that's fantastic for the adrenals.

Ashwaganda would be at or near the top of that list.

You're absolutely right.

Things like Licorice, Ramonia, Ola, Shandra, Korean, Jin Sing.

That's kind of, um, I'm trying to go through.

In a LiRo, um, or um, ah, yeah, those are kind of the main, main adrenal type herbs.

But if we take it to, to answer that question.

But if we take a step question, a step back on that question

cuz I think it's a good one.

A really good one.

So what's the stress doing to the body?

So imagine you got a car and you drive to the grocery store and back, right?

Then imagine you got a car and you drive a hundred miles

an hour nonstop for 10 hours.

Right.

How much more stress is on the car, driving nonstop for 10 hours versus

gonna the grocery store and back.

And I think that's the equivalent of what's happening with stress in our body.

So then I think the next question is what nutrients.

Our stress using.

So in that example, when we drive 10 hours in the car, going a hundred miles

an hour, what are we burning up for?

Burning up the gas, maybe need some more cool lint, you know, maybe need

to change the oil a little more often.

Right?

I mean, you, you, you think through like what's happening with a car,

so in the body, what's going on?

So some of the main nutritional factors that support healthy

adrenals are, um, B vitamins.

And I'm not talking.

So much about kind of supplement or synthetic kind of B vitamins, but just

whole food rich sources of B vitamins.

So examples of this could be nutritional yeast, could be beet,

could be sweet potato, could be liver, but B vitamins, um, are just one

example of that's a nutrient that's just burned up by four main things.

One is, you know, to go to your question on diet.

Eating sugar just burns up B vitamins cuz it's used.

Use it to break down glucose into energy.

So eat a lot of sugar.

You're gonna be short on B vitamins.

Excessive exercise.

So these are like ultra marathoners, um, people who are doing, you

know, long, long distance biking.

But there's something called exercise induced cardiomyopathy, which is

like an enlargement of the heart.

Um, that I think is a deficiency of the B vitamins just because you burned

them all up, running 40 miles or 50 miles, or biking 200 miles or whatever.

It's, so we talked about sugar, we talked about, um, too much exercise.

Alcohol will burn up B vitamins, use some B vitamins as co-factors

in the detoxification of alcohol.

And the fourth thing, um, is stress.

So stress will burn up.

B vitamins, um, just like that.

So I think, so that's one example of something that's super useful.

The other thing you'll burn, somebody might burn up a lot in is, is vitamin C.

Now the issue is if you.

If you look on in, on most supplements, not all, but most supplements,

they'll define vitamin C as AIC acid.

Right?

Which, um, Is basically an antioxidant and they'll talk about that.

And it has 500 milligrams or a thousand milligrams or 2000, whatever it

has of, of, of ascorbic acid in it.

The only problem is that's actually not what vitamin C is.

It is according to the government, but if you find vitamin C in nature, there's

over a thousand different co-factors that actually make that vitamin C.

So if you find vitamin C in an orange or in broccoli, There's a thousand

different nutrients that all make it work.

And the vitamin C is, you know, maybe 2% of that, maybe 5% of that.

So the other 90, 95 plus perfe percent is not theoric acid.

So what is the ascorbic acid?

It is an antioxidant, but what that is, is nature's way of protecting the rest

of the functional vitamin C complex.

So, gotcha.

I, the example I give for AIC acid isic acid's, like wrapping paper.

Okay.

And you get that for, for a birthday gift.

Well, most people don't necessarily want wrapping paper as a birthday gift.

They typically, like, especially kids, what's inside the wrapping paper?

And that's what I think theoric acid is.

Theoric acid is the wrapping paper that's protecting the president's side.

So what is some of the president's side, excuse me, one key nutrient.

In it is something called rootin, R u t i n, and it's kind of, uh, it's a

nutrient you find very high in buckwheat.

So buckwheat is a gluten-free grain.

Um, it's also found in apples, it's also found in onions and lesser qualities.

But, um, rootin is incredible support for the adrenal glands and credible support

for the circulatory system as well.

In fact, um, To share something with you and your audience.

Harvard did a study looking for the best clot busting molecules, and I think they

looked at 5,000 different molecules.

And what they found is a single best clot busting molecule that

existed on the planet was rootin, cuz it worked on arterial stroke or

arterial clots, those in the arteries as well as those in the veins.

And they wrote it up in the Harvard magazine.

Wow.

Um, yeah.

Yeah, so it's really fascinating.

So that is, um, so in the richest food source of that, Is buckwheat.

So, and you know, and if you're looking for a, a supplement, then you

really wanna look for a supplement that has buckwheat in it, right?

Because that'll be a food source and other, you know, so that would be a

couple examples of things that I would look for in terms of what's burn, what

the stress burn up in the body, right?

The, so we talked about B vitamins, they kind of get burned up and whole

food source of that talked about vitamin C that gets burned up in whole

food or food based source of that.

Um, the other thing that kind of gets burned up around stress that

could be connected to the headaches are minerals, specifically what's

called alkaline ash minerals.

So there's certain minerals that are more acidic, certain that are more alkaline,

going back to, you know, chemistry days for high school for many of us.

And, um, but alkaline minerals, things like calcium, magnesium,

manganese, um, potassium, but just a note on those minerals.

Again, those are best.

Um, I really like a.

A food concentrated minerals, cuz I like to think minerals to the body.

They're like instruments in an orchestra in the sense of if you have

an orchestra and you just take a bunch of, you know, calcium or a bunch of

potassium, well it's like throwing, like doing 50 times as many tubas in

the middle of an orchestra, right?

It's, it's gonna, tubas are good, but it's gonna throw off the whole balance

and change the sound of anything.

And the minerals are similar to each other and.

You know, that's what the periodic table is, the ones, each column

has similarities to the other ones.

And you'll notice some of these minerals, they're close to each other

in the periodic table, which means the body can use one to the other.

So that being said, it's, it's important to get minerals kind of in a balanced

form so you don't end up with an orchestra with way too many tubas.

Right?

So those are, those are some examples of things that get

that get that get burned up.

So we have whole food, B vitamins, whole food, vitamin C, as well as some of

those alkaline ash or relaxing minerals.

Uh, could be super helpful in situations like that.

Yeah.

That, um, I mean, that's an incredible answer.

Yeah.

Uh, I, I, I love everything you were saying there, especially on the

rootin, that, that was incredible.

I, I had no idea Yeah.

About that.

And it's, um, yeah, and, and also it's, uh, uh, what like, The amount

of it in buckwheat, like I had no idea that that was even a thing.

Um, I know for vitamin C I usually, uh, will turn to like ka comu berry.

That's usually uhhuh, one of the main forms of vitamin C

that I'll usually turn to.

Um, what's your take on vi on, on comu Comu berry?

Yeah, so I think that can be a good source.

Um, for sure.

One of the richest sources, uh, animal wise is actually the adrenal gland.

Um, so Wow, this is kind, I love that.

Yeah, so this is like for those who aren't vegetarian on the podcast

and things like that, but so what is, but what does that tell us?

What does that tell us is that the adrenal glands live on vitamin C.

Right.

And, and the, and the question that always, you know, always interested

me is, How did the, you know, you look at like kind of ancestral

diets and like the Messiah in Africa ate very different right?

Than the peop than you know, the Japanese near Okinawa.

And I've heard you talk about Blue Zones on some of your podcasts before and you

kinda look at the Mediterranean diet.

But in this case, let's look at the INU up in Alaska.

Where the heck are they getting vitamin C from?

Mm-hmm.

Right?

Mm-hmm.

I mean, we can make an idea of where they're getting vitamin D from, right?

If they're not getting it from.

The sun because there's not a lot of it up there.

Right.

We can understand they're getting it from liver, cod, liver.

Right.

Being a, being a source and you can understand something, but where

are they getting vitamin C from?

Because nuts or berries, vegetables are not a big part of that diet.

Right?

So the answer is the adrenal gland.

So it's actually like a very prized like organ meat.

And if you look at, a lot of times if you find like, um, animals when they

go hunting, they'll eat the organ meat first and leave the muscle meat last.

Um, recognizing the nutrient quality of that.

So I think camo, camo can be a good source.

They talk about, um, a few different ones, but, um, I kind of like a mix.

And then certainly having some adrenal, having some buckwheat I

think are just two fantastic sources.

And then the key you're looking at is how much ascorbic acid do they put in there?

Cuz um, most companies have to put in some, at least for a label claim,

Um, you know, just to guarantee after two years it's gonna have a certain

amount in there, but what you want is the ratio of food source to be, you

know, very, very high relative to the quantity that's synthetic on the label.

So anyway, those are a couple of the best sources and I don't know about.

The Rootin and Kamo combo.

So I don't know whether that has that in it.

As far as I know, buckwheat is the best source, like I said, apple and

Onion, a couple other sources in there.

So to get that whole vitamin C complex I'd want, I'd wanna make sure there's

something that's really high in kind of that rootin in there, um, for

that adrenal benefit, but also that circulatory support, strengthening

the arteries, clot prevention, uh, kind of effect that's in there.

A absolutely.

Um, that no, you're, you're, you're expanding my, my vitamin C knowledge

at this moment and, and realizing I need to step my game up on it.

So, um, I really enjoyed that.

And, uh, now, yeah, since we're already on this topic of, of food as medicine

and, and I love the tie-in that you did with adrenal glands, that was incredible.

Um, but, uh, what, in your opinion, what would be Yeah, some of.

Uh, you know, and, and I think we're both on the same page in, in

saying that some of the best food is obviously the closest food to nature.

Right.

Um, so what would be some of this, uh, food that's so close to nature

that you would recommend as being some of the foods that we all need

to be eating, uh, on a regular basis?

Not, not just for headaches, but for overall health?

Yeah, that's, that's a good question.

So I actually worked for a while on an article.

Um, I was trying to, uh, You know, simplify down some of

the most important practice.

If somebody could only do a certain number of things each day, what would they be?

Like?

A list of, I think I've got to like a dirty dozen or 16 of

like, what would be those things?

And some of it was obviously not food-based.

It would be like, you know, talk to a friend or practice gratitude

and some of the, you know, spirit mind body pieces that you've, you've

mentioned on, on recent episodes.

But in terms, if we look specifically at food, I think, um, a couple things I'd

look at is would be apple cider vinegar.

You know, one to two tablespoons a day.

Um, we're getting some good, um, you know, apple cider vinegar's

shown to help with weight loss.

It's very good for overall joint mobility, arthritis, even

like a frozen, frozen shoulder.

So it's really good for balancing the pH of the body.

And if you get apple cider vinegar with the mother in it, um, it's

got, um, Some good bacteria in it.

So you naturally get a probiotic.

So another group would be fermented foods.

Um, something with some good bacteria in it.

So some of my favorite ones are sauerkraut.

If you really got a strong stomach or, or like the taste.

Kimchi could be a good one.

Um, you know, yogurt, sometimes a coconut milk, uh, yogurt or,

you know, A good quality yogurt that's not pasteurized, kind of

hormone free and not full of sugar.

That's kind of, would be good things to look at there, but fermented foods.

Yep.

Um, fermented.

So yeah, we got fermented foods, we got apple cider vinegar.

Next we'll talk about, um, sea salt.

So people may hear, well, you know, salt's good, but it could

raise your blood pressure.

Um, and I find that, um, Not true in, in the correct amount.

So I think most people would do well between one and two

teaspoons of salt per day.

Uh, and I'm talking about sea salt, not sodium chloride, table salt.

Mm-hmm.

That stuff throw in the garbage.

Absolutely.

Poison.

Um, but if you get a whole food, thank you.

Thank you.

Like a whole.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But if you get a whole.

Um, like a whole food, basically what sea salt is, which is dehydrated ocean, right?

That's how they make it.

Um, some of those you can find 40, 50, 60, 70 different minerals in it.

Um, and what you'll find is the body number one mineral in

the body is sodium number one.

Mineral in the ocean is sodium.

Number two in the ocean is chloride.

Number two in the body is chloride, and then you have calcium and

potassium, and you look at the mineral composition of the body.

It's very similar.

To the ocean.

So it's almost like a fractal of each other if that idea kind of communicates.

But um, so sea salt one to two teaspoons a day.

And the more you sweat, probably the more you need a natural electrolyte.

Now, one of the things for your listeners, since we're talking about

the adrenals, is one of the signs of adrenal fatigue is craving salty foods.

So if you're craving salty foods or you're drawn to salty foods, chips,

popcorn, like to put a ton of salt on your food, that's a sign of adrenal fatigue.

Why?

And the answer is your adrenals, uh, respond to a hormone called aldosterone

and help the body hold onto sodium.

So if the adrenals are weak mm-hmm it won't produce as much of

testosterone and you'll pee out.

You'll urinate out or lose through the urine, a lot of sea salt,

or you'll lose, lose a lot of salt, excuse me, a lot of sodium.

So somebody having salt cravings or craving salty foods is

a sign of adrenal fatigue.

So, um, That's good.

And then I, you know, I'm just thinking a little bit of gut health

for, for you since that's up there.

So a couple more on that is I love, um, you know, bone broth

about a cup a day, um, for a whole bunch of different reasons, but

certainly a great source of collagen.

Uh, you make it homemade, you get some good calcium, you got a

good bit of good bit of protein as you're going in there as well.

Um, you can put, make it with some apple cider vinegar, so you

get a little bit of that there.

You put a little turmeric.

Or, uh, or ginger.

So you get some anti-inflammatory benefits in there.

Um, if anyone's looking for a recipe, I've got one on my Instagram that

you can find there, along with a bunch of the benefits of that.

It's also a rich source of l l-glutamine, which can be great for

gut repair and kind of leaky gut.

Um, so that would be one.

And then, um, you know, I'll talk about turmeric and ginger kind of together, just

incorporating some of that in your diet.

Um, both of them are potent anti-inflammatories.

Um, and Ginger specifically is one of the single best foods for gut health,

probably along with fermented foods and bone broth, but it's largely widely

antimicrobial, anti, you know, somewhat anti parasitic, antifungal, antibacterial.

Um, so it's really good for nausea as well.

Um, so that would be phenomenal.

Um, turmeric, you know, has incredible benefits, anti-inflammatory.

Anti-cancer.

I can go go on and on for a while, but I'll give you one more.

There was a, um, which would be beets and beet leaves, which are

Swiss charred, which are the number one food for gallbladder health.

Um, I was, uh, talking to a doc once and he was telling the story of a

general surgeon who, um, it's the number one food I probably use for

gallbladder health beats and beat leaves.

So he was talking to a general surgeon.

He started incor advising all this.

So this, this general surgeon was doing like three to four gallbladder surgeries

a week and he started adding, um, the patients would come in if they want

an emergency, he'd say, take a, take a couple bottles of this beat, beat leaf.

Uh, and Swiss chart is very similar to be leaf.

So they both have bean, which is the key ingredient you need in, in bets

and bee leaves, but he'd have 'em do that and he, he went from doing three

to four gallbladder surgeries a week.

I think he did zero in two years.

So I'm not, oh, saying, oh my gosh.

Guaranteed to prevent that.

And I saw somewhere else about 85% of all gallbladder surgeries can be

prevented with beets and be leaves.

So it's really good.

What it does is naturally thin the bile.

So bile is made by the liver.

Stored in the gallbladder and your gallbladder kind of releases it.

Um, when you eat a fatty meal to help digest fats, helps

lubricate the bowel, helps with a whole bunch of different things.

But what happens is when that, um, bile can get sludgy, get congested,

um, it gets thick and that's when stones are more likely to develop.

So something that naturally thins the bile can be incredibly important for that.

Uh, and that's, you know, Beats and beat leaves.

I could, I could probably keep going with some other ones, but I think those

are, um, yeah, I'm happy to keep going or I'm happy to turn it back over to you.

But, um, I think those are, are some really important ones there.

Yeah.

Um, holy cow.

I, I love, uh, all of that.

I mean, I'm, I, I'm, Literally in like a class lecture at the moment.

I'm loving this.

So, um, first off, I, I want to, I wanted to retouch a few points.

I love that you Yeah.

To, uh, spoke about salt, which I think people really underestimate

the power of high quality salt, like you said, not the fabricated salt.

That essentially just has two ingredients, right?

Like, we're looking for this sea salt that contains, like you said,

all of these minerals, which.

Our body is like basically the ocean.

You know, like I love how you made that connection there.

Yeah.

And um, I think a lot of people fell to remember that salt was a massively

valuable product back in the day.

Mm-hmm.

Um, you know, during the Roman times.

Right.

Like, I believe I heard that the term salary is derived from

the term salt, the root word.

Um, s a l because Yep.

You're right.

Yeah.

Be, and, and so it just goes to show how valuable it truly is and,

um, you know, it's, it's something to not be overlooked right now.

Uh, I also love the fact how you tie that in, in terms of it being used up.

Um, yeah, just everything on that topic was excellent.

And yeah.

Uh, I also thank you, uh, I, I wanted to speak a little bit about

the gallbladder, just very briefly.

Yeah.

And I love that you went into, That, um, that whole talk, because

my grandma actually, like a year ago, had her gallbladder removed.

Um, she was going through intense pain and had to have it removed.

And, uh, this would've been amazing to know, you know, this

would've been great knowledge.

I, uh, after that I did a.

Um, a liver slash gallbladder cleanse and, I mean, sorry, too much information

here, but yeah, definitely passed some gallbladder stones or some gallstones.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, it's absolutely wild.

I, I couldn't believe I had 'em, I just figured I was too young.

But, um, yeah, no, so beets are gonna be high on my list of, of trying to get them

in and like I said, the beat leaves as well are the Swiss char, so, um, exactly.

Sincerely, thank you so much for diving in on that.

I think.

I, I think you and I could have a conversation for hours on just

that topic, uh, but to, to get into a, a new kind of avenue.

Um, there, there is one topic I wanted to, to speak on a little bit with you,

and that was just this placebo effect.

Now, I, I've, mm-hmm.

I heard that you, you've spoken about this and kind of what it can teach us,

but I would love to, to hear your, your opinion on this and kind of your take on

it, because I did an episode quite a while back now on the placebo and the noce.

Um, and it's fascinating to me.

So I would just love to hear your take.

Um, take the floor and take it wherever you want.

Yeah, sure.

Well, great.

This will be fun.

So, um, the placebo, um, just to define the term is basically, um, the idea

that when you're doing any kind of.

Researchers, specifically a drug trial, in most cases, they give o one group of

participants the drug, and they give the other group of participants a sh what's

called, commonly called a sugar pill or a placebo, which supposedly has no effect.

But they do that, so the groups don't know who's getting the real drug and who's

getting the, the fake drug, the placebo.

And what they, the reason they do that is they want to make sure

that every drug that's approved is more effective than a placebo.

So they want to make sure they want to minimize the placebo effect

cuz they don't want, they don't want a drug being approved just

because someone thinks it's working.

They want to know it's actually working.

So, and this is, this is needed because you might think, well, who

actually gets better just taking a sugar pill and why they would give a

sugar pill as a whole nother story.

And they certainly add all kinds of stuff into most placebos anyway.

So it's not purely a sugar pill, but why would people get better?

Just taking something that's has nothing in it, or no active ingredients and.

But it's actually super common.

You know, 30% of the people will get better just taking a placebo.

So in, in medical terminology and in medical research, they wanna

minimize that as much as possible.

But I think that opens an opportunity for us holistically.

Um, not to trick people into giving them sugar pills, but to look at the fact

of, you know, me bankruptcy, personal bankruptcy, the number one cause of

personal bankruptcy is medical bill.

This, right?

I mean, this is a huge issue.

So if we have something that literally costs nothing that 30%

of the people get better taking, I think that's worth looking into.

And I'll expand on that a little bit more.

So then they start, then there's a study, there's a guy named Mosley with the,

the car, uh, the, the orthopedist name orthopedic surgeon is down in Houston.

So he was the orthopedic surgeon for the NBA team in Houston.

The rockets.

The W N B A team there, and he was, was, uh, a surgeon on one of the Olympic teams.

So this guy's like, you know, a big deal in orthopedics in orthopedic surgery,

and he did a study, he was trying to figure out what the best surgery was for

osteoarthritis or arthritis of the knee.

So one surgery is, they flush out the joint, clean out the irritants,

sorry, kind of calm it down.

So it's a flushing of the joint.

Another one's a shaving.

So they go in and shave down the cartilage, make it smooth again.

So it's a shaving.

And they wanted to tr, he wanted to know what was better,

the flushing or the shaving.

Well, they said, in order to do the study, you need a placebo group.

He said, well, how do you do a placebo group for surgery?

How do you fake a surgery?

Right.

Or how do you do a sh a sham surgery?

So, but what they, what they end up coming up with, they did a, they did

three groups, including a placebo group.

And what they did is they, the doctors didn't know what they were doing,

so they scrubbed in and got ready.

The patients didn't know, obviously what they were doing.

They, they sedated the patients and just before they made the

first incision, they gave the, the.

The surgeon a cared and it said, you know, basically flushing, shaving, or placebo.

And they did whatever that was.

So if it was a placebo, they made a couple incisions, they moved around,

they stayed in the operating room for 30 to 40 minutes like they would with

either surgery, talked like they were doing a surgery, but they didn't actually

do anything in the joint, but they still made the incisions, closed the

patient back up and, and that was it.

So then they wanted to see which one had the best improvement.

Was it the flushing, was it the shaving or was the placebo?

And you know what they found?

They all improve the same, geez, Mosley, he's got this great quote he says, so

he, he goes, I had to look in the mirror.

I had to realize that all my skill as a surgeon was totally

useless to the patients.

So the ones who got no surgery improved just as much as ones who

got surgery from one of the top surgeons, you know, in his field.

So I think what that, what that tells us is, you know, health is not physical.

Right.

If we're looking to understand our health purely by looking at the

physical, I think we can't, right?

In one of the chapters of the book, I, I called the quantum principle,

which, um, I said the power of nothing, which is the power of no hyphen thing

or basically the power of energy.

Right?

And what makes me think of is, um, there's a quote by Einstein.

So Einstein, obviously the scientific genius, um, is involved

early in, uh, quantum physics along with, uh, some others.

And what he said at one point was the sole governing agent of the particle

is the field, or the field is the sole governing agent of the particle.

So what was he saying on that?

He said, you can't understand the movement of a single particle

like an atom or like an electron.

Really.

You can't understand that without understanding the ele

energetic field that surrounds it.

And I think our body in.

I know our body, my experiences, our body is exactly the same way.

And I think that placebo effect is one example of that.

That's actually what's more important than the surgery, is our beliefs and our

mindsets and our hopes and our dreams connected to health, and there was

another researcher's name was McClair.

He was at Oxford University and he found that energetic stimuli are a hundred times

more powerful in affecting the cells.

As things like physical stimuli, like neurotransmitters or nutrients.

So energy is a hundred times more powerful and I bet you and a lot of

your listeners have experienced this cuz how many of you guys have been around

certain people and felt more energized and great and were having fun and felt

fantastic, and how many were around other people and felt tired and down

and you could feel it immediately when you walked in the room, like you opened

a door to that party or that business event, or you just saw that person across

the room and your mood level just goes.

So what is that?

It ain't physical, right?

Because it doesn't happen that quick.

So I think that's an example of it.

I think.

Well I think it's, I mean it's, I think it's a super, and one,

it's a super powerful principle.

Two is 30%, you know, we can harness that.

How can we harness that so 30% of the people get better when something

that literally costs nothing.

And three is how can we use that to as that?

Like the placebo effect is like a window into a bit of truth

and how can we incorporate that?

Into like our daily life and our daily healthcare decisions and how we look

at things like disease and health.

Um, and I think it has implications for all of those

things, uh, and probably more.

Yeah.

Uh, that, that was incredible.

An incredible explanation of it.

And, and I love that example that you gave with the knee surgery.

Uh, I definitely.

I, you know, I think a lot of times we, we always look for that external source

to heal, you know, and, and really all, all that knowledge and ability to heal.

Is within our, our cells, you know, it is here.

It like our body has this innate knowledge of, of healing itself.

You know, like it has to, to survive.

And I think when we learn to finally tap into that, you know,

there's a lot of potential.

And I think it's, it's shown in, you know, doctors say that the.

Truly the, the number one, uh, determinant of how long someone is gonna live is

how long they think they're gonna live.

You know, if you ask someone, how long do you think you're gonna live?

And they say a certain age, that's usually a lot closer than any other.

Form of measurement.

And uh, you know, there's countless examples of that where, um, you, you

can see it time and time again where just the manner in which a person

thinks, or these deep held beliefs that might have been instilled in them

as a, as a child, you know, uh, they really do show up later on in life.

And so you, it's not just become, you know, we don't just become

what we eat well, it's also, um, it's, it's what we consume in,

in all forms, right, from food.

To, to knowledge, to music, to tv, e, everything.

You know, it's, it's all, uh, playing its own role.

And I love that you tied in the, the placebo in that way.

So, uh, thank you for that.

And I also noticed you mentioned, uh, uh, a chapter in your book, which

we definitely need to talk about.

Um, can you speak a little bit about, it's, uh, timeless youth, right?

And I know you kind of have the, the title written a little

differently, so, um, please share what is, what is this book about?

Kind of what.

Um, you know, what's the goal of you writing this book and what

do you, what do you want the reader to really obtain from it?

Well, awesome.

Yeah.

Thanks for asking.

Yeah, and it's timeless youth, y o u with a little th so it's a play on the

word you, and basically it's going after that point you just made, which I think

is incredibly important and worthwhile.

And thank you for saying it, which is like the number one

truth in your health is you.

The most powerful force in your health is you.

And nobody knows more about your health.

No.

Doctor anywhere than you right now.

Doctors, yeah, including me, including anyone should be great advisors to you.

They should be people that should help you.

Any coach, holistic health coach, you know, trainer, Reiki practitioner,

massage therapist, they, they work for you and ultimately, you know,

you're in charge of your health and.

You have the right to fire any doctor you want at any time.

Right?

Because, um, and I, and I say that to say it's really, I've seen too many

people walk into doctor's offices and the doctor uses some big Latin words

and they don't understand what the heck said, and then they end up walking out on

three or six or 10 different medications.

And if you ask 'em what's going on, they don't really understand.

Um, which is a shame, um, in a sense of.

You know, not to say the doctors did anything wrong, but I certainly

think if they communicate, it would be great if the person they talked

to understood what they were saying.

Hmm.

So you ought to, you know, Einstein had another quote.

He said, anything comp complex, something.

He said like, anything complex should be able to explain in even

the most simple of terms, like the highest level of understanding.

It was this, it was like the highest level of understanding is when

you can explain something simply.

And I think, I love that you should have that.

Yeah, I think we should all strive to have that with our doctors and, and understand

what they're saying about your health and understand if that makes sense to you.

But, but to go back to your question, like anything that works,

it works cuz it helps you, right?

Even those foods I was talking about, the ginger or the garlic or

the apple cider vinegar or the bone broth, all it's doing is giving you

and your body the raw materials.

It knows it needs to do what it knows to do.

Right.

Your body is cap capable of making just about any pharmaceutical drug.

It can heal better than any surgeon, right?

Even surgery, when it's done well, all their, you know the healing's

still happening by you, right?

They can cut and they can take stuff out, but it's the body's own amazing ability

to heal that's unlocking all of that.

So that's a side, it's a little side detour there, but the

book is called Timeless Youth.

Uh, but, uh, y o u t h and I I wrote this book, um, Sometimes I wonder,

I wonder why I wrote the book.

I had a, a great idea.

The reason I wrote the book is cause I wanted to reach more people

than I could reach in my clinic.

And the reason I wrote that book is because I wanted a, a resource,

um, to be able to give to me when I was six years old or my parents

as we were driving around doctor, doctor searching for answer.

I wanted to be able to give one to.

You know, have some information for you to give to your grandma, right.

To have this inf you know, I wish I would've known this information sooner.

I have patients, you know, with family members around the country and around

the world, and it's like, I want to, I want to be able to give them something

where even I can expand the reach and pass on some of what I found super

helpful with myself and my patients.

Uh, and put a little truth bomb out into the universe and

let it go as far as it can go.

Um, and I just was frustrated, um, by people saying, you know, I went to my

doctor and they told me everything's fine, but they're feeling tired and

they're feeling fatigued, and they think they have an autoimmune disease

and they don't know what's going on.

But the doctor looked at the blood work and said, they're fine.

Well, then they went back and the doctor said, well, I can't

find anything wrong with you.

And they, they can't understand why they have all these pains, so

they're given an antidepressant.

Right.

Or they have an autoimmune disease and the doctor says,

here's an is immunosuppressant.

Take this for the rest of your life.

Oh, by the way, the side effect is cancer.

Right?

Or you just go through those different lists of all the things

and, and there is a better option and there's a lot more to that.

And there's some lessons that I've learned that placebo effect

we dived into a little bit.

And there's more on that kind of deeper in the book, but like

there's five key principles that I think have to be applied.

And also I think if you understand the principles, Another quote if you

like, if, if you only know the methods, you're forever tied to those methods.

Like if you only learn the tips, tips and tricks, you're forever

looking for the next tip and trick and not understanding why they work.

But if you understand the principles that behind those methods,

you're free to create with them.

And that's, I really think the single most important thing someone

could do is actually understand what health is and what creates it.

Because if you do that, The next time you look at a food or try to understand

what a diet is or try to look and make these choices or try to help friends,

you can do it from a point of like, you got the whole operating system.

Right.

And that was the intention of the book, to give someone, they could give

some information, they could tap into, they could understand, they can share

with their friends, or they can share with their church groups, or they

can share with, um, family members that, that can help them unlock their

body's own ability to heal and help them understand how much of health.

You can do on your own, that costs nothing.

Right.

And I think there's incredible value in just understanding that.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Uh, Dr.

Jeff.

I love that.

And, and, you know, that really deeply resonates with me because

this podcast in a lot of ways is my, um, my kind of give back to Yeah.

My younger self and kind of that thing that it's like, yeah,

if I was, if I had this tool.

Back then, you know, um, things would've been very differently.

Um, but, you know, of course, like, like we said earlier on, it's, it's

this path that led us to where we're at.

And so now we can come from this place of service and, and provide, um, you

know, like this book Timeless you.

Right.

And, um, yeah, really be able to, to give back to, to the community and,

uh, the community at large in terms of, you know, having a book, you're able

to, yeah, reach so many more people than you normally would be able to.

So, um, thank you for, for diving in on that.

And Dr.

Jeff, honestly, like we're coming to an end here, but.

Man.

Uh, like I said, I think you and I have, um, a lot more conversation to have.

Um, I would love to have you back on.

That's something we could, uh, definitely discuss in the future.

And, um, before we, before we do find the, our way to the conclusion,

um, I would love for you to.

Just provide, um, places where people can connect with you, can

reach out to you, can find you.

Um, yeah, just whatever resources you might have where they can find

this, uh, find your book, timeless Youth and, um, yeah, take, take the

floor, share all of that good stuff.

Of course, I'll link it into show notes and, um, yeah, take the floor.

Well, awesome.

I, I enjoyed the conversation immensely.

Evan, I hope, I hope sincerely, hope was incredibly useful and

valuable to your listeners.

And.

I'd be happy to continue that conversation again or expanded, extended, and deep

dive into some of these awesome areas we touched on and plenty more to do.

So that'd be my pleasure to do that.

Um, so best way to probably connect to me is probably over Instagram.

You can find me Jeff Crippen, j e f f c r i p p e N.

You can find me on Instagram.

I've got some stuff linked there.

I mentioned that bone broth recipe.

We've talked about some of those.

You know, powerful foods and, and there's more there.

So you can, you can connect with us on Instagram and if you have any questions,

it's probably the best way to reach me or kind of continue the conversation.

Um, and for the book Timeless Youth, um, you can get it pretty

much anywhere books are sold.

It's certainly on Amazon.

Um, you can find it through the website, timeless youth book.com.

But any bookstore, um, us and abroad can, can order it.

And, uh, have a copy in, you know, Amazon, Barnes Noble, target,

kind of all those main ones.

You can find it there and I'd love you to pick up a copy and

share it with some friends.

If you found this, this, this interview useful, that would mean a lot and kind

of help me continue my mission to share that positivity and, you know, truth

about health throughout the universe.

So I'd be incredibly grateful to, uh, to you guys for doing that.

Yeah, no, absolutely.

Uh, Dr.

Jeff, I really deeply from the bottom of my heart, appreciate you coming

on this show and, um, Uh, yeah, I, I found the conversation super valuable.

So, uh, hopefully, and, um, I already know that the listeners will find it valuable.

Um, but if at the least it was a, a great opportunity for me, I always, I

love having guests on because it, it literally is, it's, it's just a learning

opportunity aside from, uh, me being able to provide this to the listener.

But, uh, Dr.

Jeff, I, yeah, truly, truly appreciate it.

Thank you for coming on the show.

Like I said, we'll, we'll probably be having you back on.

And, um, for all the listeners out there, Please go find, uh, Dr.

Jeff on Instagram.

Um, I'm definitely gonna check out the bone broth recipe, so

I advise you to do so as well.

I'll try to maybe, yeah, I don't know if I can link a post in there, but I

will link his Instagram so, um, you can go ahead and find it and, uh, you

already know the motto of the show.

Let's do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.

Dr.

Jeff, thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

My pleasure.