Season 3, Episode 1 of Supernatural, and boy did they pull out the stops for this episode. We have the Seven Deadly Sins! We have a new mysterious blonde! We have really aggressive demon smoke penises. It's all there! During lore, we dive into Peter Binsfeld and the horror behind the Trier Witch Trials in Germany, featuring the seven deadly sins.

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On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we're going to talk about season three, episode one and Shoes to Kill For.

I thought it was Shoes to Die.

For, and I changed it last minute.

Okay, fine.

We're also going to see if you can name the seven deadly sets.

I think they're Sleepy, Dopey, and Lesser.

Dancer and Prancer.

Dancer, Prancer, Vixen.

Okay.

All right.

Let's stop being silly.

Let's do this.

It's.

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.

I'm Diana.

My name is Liz.

Yeah, that's right.

Call me Liz.

Why do I say my name like that?

Diana.

Diana.

Oh, I'm Diana.

And we are going to talk about season three, episode one, the Magnificent Seven.

I'm going to start getting the Clash stuck in my head.

It's actually not one of my favorite Clash songs.

For those of you who don't know, the Clash is the only band that matters, and they are.

I have Clash tattoos many things of Joe Strummer dedications in this house, but I really don't like that song.

It's fine.

They can't all be winners.

They can't.

They definitely had some misses, but.

Yeah, no, Joe Strummer will.

If you want to haunt me, Jo, that's fine.

I'm totally cool with you being a ghost in my house.

Come on down.

If we ever get a Ouija board, that's what we're gonna try to call.

Yeah, but then we're just gonna end up summoning some demon.

Oh, no, not some diamonds.

Damn diamonds.

How was your week?

What's going on?

It's pretty good.

My babe, AKA my dear husband, was traveling a lot of last week, so I got to, like, I don't know, like, eat, like, my crap food that I make for myself, like, when I was single, and.

And then I went to two shows, which is crazy, in a week.

But I got to take my niece to the State Fair of Texas for her first time ever, and it was awesome.

And we ate fried things, including a armadillo ice cream sandwich.

No real armadillo in it, but it was delicious.

And then we.

I went to see a young artist named Thomas Shorba do his EP release, and my good friends, the Ottoman Turks opened up.

And then the next night, I went and saw my other.

My friend, who's also in Ottoman Turks, funny enough, play his album release show for his awesome new album.

Joshua Ray Walker's new album, see you next Time is fantastic.

He had a great Turnout, great show.

And it was a good time and saw a lot of awesome people.

Except I am the asshole.

So if you don't know, I'm.

I'm tall.

And I didn't.

I was like, oh, I'm gonna pick my up that.

This looks cute.

And I was wearing high heeled boots, booties, and my beautiful white Stetson hat.

Note to self, if you're extremely tall and you go to a concert wearing high heels and a giant hat and it's a standup show, you're gonna be in people's way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You were.

Saw the pictures.

I did my best to ensure that.

Luckily, it was a.

It's a tiered floor at the venue it was at, so I was able to, like, not be, like, direct in front of somebody significantly shorter than me.

But it was pretty funny.

But it was a fantastic show.

And then babe got back in town, and now we're ramping up for this weekend because this week we're gonna go visit Liz.

Yay, party.

Slumber party.

Yay, slumber party at Rosa's place.

We're gonna go drink some rum at the new distillery for ruminate distilling, which produces our favorite Texas rum, high rum, as well as their amazing flavored rums.

And they've got a new rum called Chupacabra.

And I'm very excited about all this.

Do you want to take a breath now?

Yeah.

How about you?

I don't remember what I did last week.

I know, like, Saturday I had a friend come over and we watched the new Muppets Haunted Mansion, which is so good.

I need to watch it still.

I'm excited.

How have you not watched.

Was so hard for me not to watch it on Friday when it came out because I promised my friend I would watch it with him, and I was like, ah, but it's so good.

I need to watch it again.

Well, Friday I was out, and then Saturday I resisted and I thought I'd watch it when Dave got back in town, but then it was kind of late and he was tired, so I was like.

And we both just set up drinking wine because that's what you do when you get back from a really long road trip.

And so that's why it's just been on the agenda and haven't gotten there yet.

But we will.

We will.

Yeah.

I don't.

I honestly have no idea of anything else I've done.

That's all I can remember are the Muppets.

I feel like I know I've been working and I feel Like, I've done other things.

I probably cried.

No, I've crafted.

I don't know what I've made, though.

I know I'm making some things for you that I.

So I can't talk about them until you get here, but.

Yeah.

Okay, that's it.

My life is boring.

Looking forward, you guys, I have a really busy week coming up, so.

Yeah.

So including tomorrow is the kickoff of my Lira Ariel class, and I'm very excited, and hopefully my core four will hold up.

But sky candy, I think we've talked about it on the show, but you mentioned it.

Yeah, they do this.

This classes for plus size girls, so I'm super excited to go spin in a circle in a hoop, I guess.

Yeah.

So anyways, let's just kick this off because I have nothing.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

What are you drinking?

Sorry, I'm.

I'm drinking a take on a bee's knees, but I'm drinking it on ice.

What's on a bee's knees?

Gin.

Gin.

Honey, and.

Well, we should use lemon, but we had lime juice.

That's what it is.

And we talk about a little Topo chico and some ice, because I don't have coupe glasses at home, and that seems like a pain in the ass to make it home.

Well, and cute glasses.

That's not enough.

They suck.

I know.

It's like, oh, here, Enjoy your two sips of this cocktail.

I guess maybe they think that you're gonna drink your cocktail slow and not want to have 20s.

Yeah, yeah.

No, coupe glasses are pain, but they look lovely.

And so this is our take on it to drink out.

They're gorgeous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How about you?

What do you got?

I am drinking some of Texas finest sparkling water.

Yeah.

My stomach is a bit iffy, and so decided alcohol was not a good idea.

So sparkling water it is.

Knowing that I will not mock you for not drinking.

Liz.

Projectile vomiting during.

During taping would be bad.

No, just want to dampen things.

Be a lot of delays, a lot of editing that has to be done, it'd be a thing.

So we don't do a thing, but.

The best blooper ever, you know?

Oh, God.

If I could do it like the Baron in what we do in the shadows and then just propel myself by that as I.

As I go around the room, it'd be so great.

Oh, and okay, so this episod.

So, guys, I know you love our banter, but we're just gonna cut that short this time.

Yeah, we'll go for it.

So Like Diana said, we talked about, it's called the Magnificent Seven.

This is the start of season three.

And so we've got this one directed by Kim Manners and written by Eric Kripke.

So we've got.

Our big boys are in the seats because it's the start of the season.

Some fun things about this that I just want everyone to know.

So basically, the network was like, hey, guys, like, you should go bigger with your show.

Like, what you did during the season finale, like, that's really great.

We want more of that.

We want it to be like that.

So they're like, fuck, yeah, here we go.

And then they're like, oh, you spent how much money?

Oh, no, can you stop?

They're like.

Because they're like, you can go a little over budget.

And they're like, you went, how much over budget, guys, let's know.

Can.

Let's not make this as big as we said.

So that is a reason why this was.

It's a phenomenal episode.

It's.

There is so much.

There's so much that goes into this and.

Can't wait to dig into it.

I'm going to interject for one second.

I'm sorry.

I had an interloper in my room.

Right now I have to release Kevin because he snuck in through the back entrance to get into where I record.

And he's laying next to me, and I don't trust him.

So let me let Kevin escape.

One second.

Bye, Kevin.

I love you.

You're the best dog ever.

Gonna get you a bat.

Chew toy.

Sorry, I'm trying not to crack up.

Ozone.

Sorry.

I have, like a. Anyways, where I record.

I have.

It's like a kind of like a false wall, like a curtain wall, like a room divider.

And the dog knows how to sneak through it.

He's never done that when I was recording before.

He may still do it.

I think he's probably just gonna go right around to come back in.

He might.

He, like, it should be amazing if it's like, yeah, if we see the curtains part.

And like, he did.

And that's why I was like, what was that?

I was like, what the fuck?

And then.

Yeah, it's a ghost.

No, it's Kevin.

If he does it again, I'll turn a camera on towards him for you guys.

Okay.

And.

All right, so this episode.

Ready?

Yep, we're ready.

We're going to start off in Oak Park, Illinois.

I will.

I will note that the.

I thought it was a fun Song for the the road so far intro this time was AC DC's Hell's Bells.

Yeah, that was good.

Yep.

So, all right.

Oak Park, Illinois.

Go for it.

You want me to start?

Oh, it's fine.

We've got a mediocre white dude.

That's my note.

So a mediocre white dude is taking out the trash and he's in his.

Generic suburban looking house.

And it is very generic suburban house.

And so I'm guessing, as we see later when we get to the cityscape, that Oak Park's near Chicago.

And they do.

I think they allude to this later.

But he's looking longingly at his neighbor's car, which, you know, if I live next store, Diana, I would probably be looking at her car being like, hi, I want to have you.

But then I wouldn't look at my.

That guy also has a piece of shit car.

And I can understand he had like a generic ass fucking Camry.

Right?

But that car, like, I don't know if you noticed the Camry was like, weirdly dirty.

Like, okay, guys, I get you have to dirty up the car to make it look like crappier, but I'm like, you, like, put a layer of like opened a fucking vacuum cleaner of dust on this car.

Like, it doesn't even make sense.

It was so weird.

I'm like.

Like, I've seen some cameras with bad paint.

That's not bad paint.

That's just like this fucked up dust layer all over this car.

Like, what is going on to this thing?

So sorry.

It was very distracting to me.

That was my weird comment.

There you go.

And there's really ominous music playing.

So, like, you're already like, me being like, you know, newbie.

I'm like, oh, shit, something's going to happen.

And it does.

It does.

Yeah.

We get our.

What?

Smoke snakes?

Well, yeah.

First Oscar the Grouch starts shaking the trash cans, and then the street lights start flashing and then we get our Smoke Snakes, AKA Death Eaters is what I was also started calling them.

Yeah, I can see that.

Also very much like Death Eaters.

Yep.

And then one just crams himself down.

His throat just goes like.

Right.

It was a lot.

It was a lot.

I mean, he.

Yeah.

Reflects on this guy.

He took it like a champ.

Oh, God.

I think Diana and I switched personalities tonight.

All right.

I was like, there's.

I said a whole lot of demon smoke.

Cock in his mouth is what I wrote.

I wrote that down because that's all I could think.

Yeah, yeah, Diana, I'm so proud of you.

I was channeling.

I was channeling you as I watched it.

You really were.

But then as that's happening, they, like, the scene cuts back and you see, like, a whole bunch of the other smoke, snakes, slash death eaters, whatever, going into the city.

And so now we know that basically all the fucking demons that they released from hell are attacking Chicago.

At least.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's the implication, but.

Yeah, well, that's the implication.

They don't really show it yet.

They don't show it.

And.

I mean, Chicago doesn't really come up in, like.

Okay.

I don't really understand the purpose of that.

I mean, it plays into the story a bit, but it's just weird.

I think there's an illusion.

It's alluded to a little later kind of loosely and when we get there, I'll try to point it out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So one week later, Sam is reading Dr. Faustus and about the devil and about the crossroads in the car while Dean is inside a domicile of some kind banging some chick.

And it's just weird.

Like, this whole scene is just gross and weird.

Wow, it's.

So go to a coffee shop.

What are you doing?

Just sitting in front of the house watching the windows?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, like, why are you, like, giving your brother the thumbs up that you're about to get some, like, dudes?

Like, I mean, maybe this is a chick thing, but I just don't understand how proud that of you.

Like, proud of yourself that you are.

But it's weird.

Like, I would agree that, you know, I have had sex in some weird places with some weird people in the room.

But I've never been like.

Well, maybe I was like.

I don't know.

If I ever told somebody just to go wait in the car.

I may have.

That's.

But if I did, I probably wouldn't be making the thumbs up sign.

No, I.

Probably.

Right.

No, it was a. Yeah, well, no.

Yeah, yeah.

But this.

It was just a really weird scene.

And then, so while he's in the car, Bobby calls Sam.

And Sam's like.

Basically, it pieced together why Sam is reading these things.

He's trying to figure out how Dean can break out of the deal that he made with the demon.

But as we all may recall, Dean didn't tell him the one caveat on the deal he made with demon which is that if he tries to break it, then Sam drops dead.

So Sam does not know that piece.

So he's just like, oh, there's gotta Be a way to break this, obviously.

Duh.

But anyway, so Bobby's like, hey, I found.

We found something big.

We need to go figure this out, and y' all need to get here.

So Sam tries to go interrupt Dean.

Why would he open the door?

And then.

Why?

You just saw what he was about to do.

Exactly.

And, like.

And then he's like.

There's, like, awkward, like.

Like really cliche, like red lingerie and stripper heels laying around.

It was just really weird.

Anyways.

Uncomfortable scene.

Yeah.

But it stays uncomfortable for a minute because they get back into the eyes.

Yeah.

And Dean still looks really stupid happy.

And.

Which it was kind of adorable.

I didn't like the look at his face.

But then he's like, thank you for letting me spend the time with the double man.

Twins.

I'm like, was there twins in there?

That's disgusting.

They're sisters.

Like, ew.

Like, this is awkward.

I didn't like any of that.

Yeah.

All right.

So grossness is done.

All right.

Let's just make that it's over and we're just gonna.

And so this is when they start talking.

And this is where Sam's talking about how there's these weird storm clouds or they're talking together about these weird storm clouds over 17 cities.

Seven.

Seven?

I thought it was seven.

Seven.

Think about it.

Oh, seven makes sense.

Okay.

Sorry.

Seven.

That makes more sense.

I just heard 17.

No, I wrote down 17.

I might have just.

Right now.

Seven cities.

So that's where I was like, okay, maybe that's why.

Maybe they're implying that Chicago is one of the seven.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

And then.

But Bobby is.

So the.

Bobby's found a crop failure.

And cicada.

Cicada swarm outside of Lincoln, Nebraska.

Which just reminds me of Baltimore during their cicada storm.

Or swarm.

Or storm or swarm.

Stormy swarm.

Yeah, it was.

They were.

It was real gross, guys.

I.

If any of you had to live through that.

I'm really sorry.

It was disgusting.

I was there for Was.

So they're going.

They're like.

There's.

Other than these little things that Bobby's identified, there really hasn't been much activity.

So they're kind of weirded out as to what's.

What the demons are doing.

What are they waiting for?

So they're outside of Lincoln, Nebraska, and it's like this farm type of house.

And I made some shitty comment about, like, she's hanging out front to dry.

Like, it's a bad sign always.

And B, do people do that of,.

Like, clan Members inside?

No, just like, like it's always like an ominous thing.

Like, oh, they're pulling up to this quiet house and there's laundry hung out front.

I'm like, oh shit, something's gonna happen.

I also like that the title.

The.

I don't even call it the flash on the screen actually said just outside.

Look at Nebraska.

It was like small town, like a name of a town.

It's like.

No, just outside.

Yep.

Unincorporated.

No, I'm just kidding.

So Bobby's there, baby's really dirty, and the cicadas are real fucking loud.

Really loud.

Really, really loud.

So they knock on the door and they decide to go in and no one answers.

Well, you miss.

You miss Dean eating his bacon cheeseburgers?

Oh, yeah, he was.

It does come back and I wish I noted it.

So yeah, he's eating bacon cheeseburgers.

And Bobby's like, what the fuck?

And he's like, I'm going out of here, might as well live it up kind of attitude.

And he's like, yeah, not gonna sweat the cholesterol.

And I was like, that does look delicious.

And also, who serves bac and cheeseburgers in the morning?

But okay, so he goes in and makes it.

He makes a great Candy Graham reference.

And then they walk in and they do a really shitty job of sweeping this house.

Not good.

They're not good at sweeping rooms.

Like, like, I don't understand.

Like they're a tactical premise of like.

It's non tactical, basically.

I don't know.

So I was like, you would still be shot.

Like you would die.

And they're.

And the house smells real bad.

They made that clear.

So they find like they hear voices in one room.

So they bust in the room and it's the fucking television and it's like the stinkiest room obviously.

And there's three corpses.

A man, a woman.

It looks kind of like a preteen age person.

Ish.

I don't know.

So.

Yeah.

And then of course, while they're like, oh shit, there's the dead people.

Something moves past the window.

So.

Well, and they also wanted to check for demon farts and they had to.

Check for sulfur and they didn't find any.

Yeah.

So no farting demons anywhere.

So.

But I mean, given what we know about this, I mean, I guess maybe they were infected somewhere else, but.

Yeah.

Okay, so no demon farts.

Yeah.

And so Dean goes outside looking for who was ever snooping around outside.

And this black couple pop up out of the bushes and scare the shit out of Dean.

And Knock the fuck out of him with a shotgun.

So we learned that this is Isaac and Tamara, and they're hunters and they're friends with Bobby.

Also, Isaac is played by Peter Mason, who was Lieutenant Commander Bortus on the Orville, which is the show we enjoyed.

And Tamara was Dr. Sykes on the Passage.

It was a show just like one season, but it was Mark Paul Gosler, and it was pretty entertaining.

That's what I got.

I watched it.

I know.

I recommend everyone loves Zach, right?

Get your Zach on Zach.

Get your Zach, Morris.

Come on now.

It was a fairly recent series, too, but yeah.

Anyways, so there we go.

All right.

So they were now ready to go.

We're going to transition to Isaac and Tamara, or Tamara, I don't have the surname, to their house.

And she's looking for Palo Santo because it's toxic to demons, like holy water.

It keeps the bastards nailed down while you're exercising them.

So basically, they're making stakes like they're vampires out of this wood to hold them down.

And so Palo Santo actually is known as the Holy Wood, and it is used to enhance spiritual practices, dissolve negative energy and combat unwanted entities.

And so there's a lot of traditions for this.

It's mainly coming from South America, so Argentina, Galapagos, Ecuador, Bolivia, et cetera.

And I actually have some essential oil of it, and so I've burned it a couple of times this week in honor of this episode.

It smells really nice.

It's.

I forgot what it.

It's really close to frankincense and myrrh.

Like it's in the same family, but just from the South American side of the world.

It's also supposedly keeps away mosquitoes and other insects, So I haven't tried that as a repellent because nothing repels mosquitoes for me.

Not even, like, toxic.

Like, I get to watch myself in DEET and just be.

They'd be like.

Like this deep flavor of your blood right now.

This is delicious.

Oh, well.

And while she's doing that, Dean's on the phone talking, and there's somebody named, like, Jenny, which ends up is someone that works in the coroner's office.

And that's where they find out that this is.

That the three people they found died of dehydration and starvation.

And everybody's like, what the fuck?

They had, like, a fully stocked kitchen, like, just a few feet away.

So, yeah, they sat down and they never got up.

And I can relate to this.

I was like, this sounds like my weekend.

Like, I just got sucked into the couch really bad.

And I just didn't get up.

You know, that makes me so, like, I cannot.

Oh, my gosh.

Sitting still.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, you're not.

You're not.

You're not sitting still.

I never would be sitting like that until I died.

I would be lounging on my couch like I do with, you know, propped up on my pillows, playing my stupid match three game on my iPad and probably also surrounded by 9 million books on demons and petting the cat.

And then.

But yeah, sometimes it's like, oh, I.

Just got to pee.

So far.

So far.

All right, so I'll start.

I'll start worrying when you start buying diapers.

Just because then I'll start worrying.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, also, Women in my 40s, I probably need diapers at some point.

So they're all like, okay.

And during the.

Sam also asked them really awkward question of how they got into hunting.

And to me it seems like you should never ask.

That is.

It's always a tragic story.

So it seems like something like maybe you ask later, not like first on.

Meeting, like after you get to know somebody.

And it's like, that's something that, you know, reveal.

Yeah, it's really like, so how did you lose your virginity?

Like, how long have you guys been banging?

Like, if you meet a couple, you're like, so when did you fuck?

Like, how was that?

You know, like, it's a very.

Like, in like our Molly Harper books, like, you don't ask how a vampire was turned unless they just to want to tell you.

Yay, Molly Harper.

There you go.

I got to slip that in there.

You're welcome.

Yeah.

All right, so.

And then.

Yeah, so and.

And Dean does it to make a crack about agreeing to get an appletini with Jenny, which is pretty funny when he gets off the phone with Jenny at the coroner's office.

But yeah, so they're all like, you know, Sam's all like, well, I guess we're all going to go do this.

Let's go figure out what caused this.

And Isaac said the same Scooby Doo.

And we don't play well with others.

And.

But basically they blame, like, Isaac and Tamara blame Sam and Dean for opening the gate, which is kind of rare.

He's not wrong.

You did.

You opened the gate.

That's what you did.

Yeah.

And yeah.

So then.

And then we cut and we see this like, pretty blonde chick that looks pretty tactical.

Ish.

Eyeball in the house outside.

That's pretty much.

And the actress who has not Been named yet?

She doesn't have a name.

She's this mysterious blonde lady.

She is played by Katie Cassidy, who also played.

Ended up playing Laurel and Black Canary on Arrow.

So she was really good on that.

I really liked Arrow, at least for a while because they were just.

I forget the main character who played the main guy, but like the first couple of seasons were just him doing setups without a shirt on, hanging from things.

And I was like, yeah, I can watch this show.

Like, I am in this demographic.

I am in their demographic.

Yeah, you made that one for me.

Gotcha.

Okay, thanks, CW and then, then I think they started like putting clothes on him.

I just got kind of lost interest.

But anyway, so we're going to go on to a thrift store now.

Yeah.

And this man walks into the store and touches this random lady's arm and says, those are nice shoes.

Pointing at the shoes and some other bitches hands.

This is fucking awkward as shit.

Like, I get like there's some weird shit going on here, but still be like, the fuck yeah, bye.

Like, I don't know.

But anyways, so you get the weird whispering background noise though, when he says this.

And so she's like, looks over at the shoes and by the way, they are really cute green pumps.

Really?

I just put.

They were really ugly.

I was like, these shoes are not that cute.

And then so she sees like, she's like.

So this random lady sees this other chick holding these green pumps and walks over and it's like, those are really nice.

I want them.

And she's like, sorry, the last pair.

And so this woman follows the chick that bought the shoes outside and bashes her face into a fucking car windshield until she did for the shoes, which is.

I have almost felt that way about shoes before.

But yeah, you know how I feel about my shoes.

You know, it's really hard to find.

Not to take us to a far off topic.

Do you know that they really don't make good red combat boots?

I've been trying to find some for my Halloween outfit and they just don't exist.

Like red?

Yeah, like.

Like a chair.

Like, I don't want oxblood because I'm doing a Snow White.

So I like, I need red.

Like, Oxford won't work.

You can't find like red patent ones.

I don't want to do red patent docs.

I would never wear those again.

I don't.

Yeah, I have like one pair of like patent docs that I got that I didn't know were were going to be patent and Then I got them.

I'm like, fuck, I'm going to keep them.

I'm never going to wear them.

They'll just go into the shoe world anyways.

Okay.

So she gets her face, like, smashed in.

Gnarly, like.

Yeah.

So Sam's watching the crime.

Obviously, some time has passed.

Sam's watching the crime scene.

Dean's inside talking to, like, random chicken.

This tour comforting her, but obviously, like, gross flirting you.

And Bobby's all dressed up in a suit.

He was pretending to be from the DA's office.

And he actually talked to the suspect.

And he's weirded out because there's no signs of possession.

Obviously he, like, splashed her with holy water, because.

Duh.

And, yeah.

So they're like, okay, this is not an isolated incident because we had this weird family death where, like, these people just, like, stopped getting off the sofa.

And now we've got this weird situation where this lady just, like, random, has no, like, weird signs or symptoms or history and just, like, kill this bitch for some shoes.

So Dean finds the security camera and they see the guy that went up to her, so they're gonna go look for that guy.

Yep, they do.

And our blonde chick is back.

She's back.

She's following Sam and watching him.

And he kind of realizes it, but doesn't really get to see her.

Yeah.

So Sam, Dean and Bobby are staking out the old terminal pub, and they're looking for Walter Rosen from Oak Park.

That ends up, this is the guy we saw at the very beginning of the episode taking out his trash and being his buddy's car or his neighbor's car.

I don't know if it's their French or not.

And they're like, okay, he's probably possessed.

He went missing right after the gate opened.

And so Bobby's like, all right, we need to gather info and just fucking watch for a while.

And Dean's like, nope, let's go.

Because, duh, Dean.

Then they see Isaac and Tamara fucking go in.

So they're like, well, son of a bitch.

That's not a good sign.

So Walter is in there with a beer, and Isaac's got some, like, his stash.

Holy water is going to follow Walter to the bathroom.

But as soon as Isaac gets up to do that, he gets grabbed by a big.

A big gothy bald dude who is fucking possessed.

He's got the black eyes because he's like, I don't like hunters in my bar.

So ends up everybody in the bar is possessed.

It's a bad place to be For Isaac and Tamara, it really is.

So basically, we've got a whole bar full of demons.

They're screwed.

And the door is locked from the inside.

And the guys can't get in.

They're trying.

They're pounding the doors.

They can't get in.

Nope.

So the bar.

This chick that works at the bar and Walter just making, like, some gross comments about Tamara.

Another demon walks up to Isaac with a big old tub of drain cleaner and starts talking, like, doing the weird, whispery shit again, telling him to drink it.

And he does.

He starts just, like, chugging this freaking cleaner.

It's awful.

Does it make you feel better if you knew that was Gatorade and jello?

Just sad.

Gross.

No, it is sad and gross.

But, you know, at least now he won't get Covid.

Okay, so Isaac dies.

Camera is screaming, he's bleeding from the mouth.

The demons are laughing.

It's all crazy.

Yeah.

And then they just drive the car right into the bar.

Thank God it's not.

Baby, it was not.

This was.

They were in Bobby's car.

I made.

I was like, son of a bitch.

They did not.

But it was Bobby's car.

They backed it up through the doors, like, slammed through the doors, and they come out of the car and start attacking.

They have, like, a shit ton of holy water, because obviously, Bobby's well stocked on holy water.

That's his jam.

Sam gets Tamara.

She doesn't want to leave, obviously, but they get her in the car.

Dean's being slow and.

But decides to try to, like, I don't know.

He barely gets away from alter.

And then throws him in the trunk.

It's a whole thing.

Yep.

So.

But gets thrown into the trunk.

There's a devil's trap in the trunk.

And Tamara wants to go back, so they go to the house, and I think they're at the house now, and she wants to go back to the bar to get Isaac.

And Dean's like, yeah, let's go.

And Bobby's like, you idiots.

And so Bobby's like, no, no.

I figured out what they are.

I'm like, what is it, man?

It's.

This is seven deadly sins.

And then we get a great.

What's in the box?

And then I realized I haven't watched seven in a very long time.

And I meant to watch it again this weekend.

It's such a good movie.

But nobody's amused by Dean's.

His 7 reference.

And Bobby brings out.

So this.

Let's talk about this.

I want to talk about who the fuck Binsfeld was, because.

Fuck Binsfeld.

And we're going to talk about some more.

All right, Lore.

It's time for lore.

It's time for Lore early.

And also for those of you who don't know, now that we're in the seven Deadly sins, I am wearing one of my seven deadly sins shirt.

I'm wearing my Envy one that says, anything you can do, I can do better.

And it has two chicks fighting on it.

You cannot see behind me.

But I also have paintings of all seven deadly sins up on my wall.

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Anyways.

All right, so Peter Bensfeldt.

He was a German Jesuit priest, a demonologist, and a witch hunter.

He was born, ironically enough, in the village of Bins.

Felt lucky him.

Must have been easy.

So also, this is the Middle Ages, and so often your last name was where you lived.

So he.

Someone recognized.

Oh, he's kind of smart.

So they sent him off to Rome.

And so he went and studied there.

And he came back to help with the battle against Protestants.

Fucking Protestants.

Like you do.

Yeah, like you do.

So he was elected suffrage and Bishop of Treves, and he became one of the primary judges during the witch trials of Trier.

And this is one of the four largest witch trials that was in Germany.

And realistically, it's probably Germany had the.

The biggest witch trials and executions for most of Europe.

It was like trying to remember what I did this weekend.

I spent a lot of time reading about witch trials.

Like, what did I do?

I was like, oh, yeah, I was reading.

That's what I was doing.

I was reading about that and getting really depressed.

And I just want to do a quick quote from this narrative by Canon Linden.

The Gesta Trivorium which is a manuscript that's in the city library of Trier from around this time.

And they said, you know, in as much as it was popularly believed, that the continued sterility of many years.

So the entire area was under a lot of famine and famine and just crops weren't growing.

They're like, believed that this was caused by witches through the malice of the devil.

And the whole country rose to exterminate the witches.

This movement was promoted by many in office who hoped well from the persecution.

And so from court to court, throughout the towns and villages of all the diocese scurried special accusers, inquisitors, notaries, jurors, judges, constables, dragging to trial and torture human beings of both sexes and burning them in great numbers.

Scarcely any of those who were accused escaped punishment, nor were there spared, even the leading men in the city of Trier.

And so they basically, they went through.

And like all, like judges, noblemen, all people were brought to trial.

And during this time, if you were accused, you're done.

Like, you're accused, there's no way out of it.

You're done.

There is no innocent until proven guilty.

No.

And what's odd is really, during innocent, a proven guilty was really something that was considered for a lot of crimes.

But this is special, and this is one of the ones that was.

And we'll talk about how Benzo thinks about that in a minute.

But so during this, meanwhile, notaries, copies and innkeepers grew rich.

The executioner war wrote a bl horse like a noble of the court and went cloud and gold and silver.

His wife vied with noble dames in the richness of her array.

The children of those convicted and punished were sent into exile.

Their goods were confiscated, plowman and vintner failed.

Hence came more sterility.

And so basically they're already in a really shit place.

Then they put all these people on trial, kill them, send their children off, and then there's no way to work the fields.

So already your fields are done, then you kill everybody.

And of course you don't have more foods.

Now this cycle of just, this is all coming and this is all because of the devil.

Yeah.

So when we talk about demonologists of this time, and so what Bobby is talking about the book, and we'll get to that one in a second.

They were mainly interested in demonology because they wanted to use this during trials and be like, this is when we talked about Ludon, you know, like, these are the, the demons that are possessing this woman.

You know, it's that same Idea that we want to.

I want to know about demons because I think this is what's possessing this person or reality.

I want to blame this on this.

So Benzfeld wrote the treaties of confessions by evildoers and witches, and this became an inquisitor handbook.

It was written for the trial of someone who actually was one of the judges of the witch trials eventually.

So this was Dietrich Flade.

He was originally a judge and he was, you know, went through.

People were having.

Trying witches all the time before this.

It wasn't that unusual.

Like, it was just something that was accepted.

But also, the punishments weren't that bad because everybody believed in witchcraft up until this point.

They'd be like, oh, Mary, hex my field and I couldn't grow my crop.

I'm like, well, Mary, you know, need to say 10 bloody, you know, 10 holy rosaries, whatever.

But then things started getting worse and worse, and Flame was like, y' all, like, these persecutions and this torture, it's not good.

I don't like the way they're doing.

So they're like, well, you're a witch.

So they arrested him, tortured him, strangled him and burned him.

So unlike the other witches, though, he did get to be strangled first.

They're like, well, that was like the thing that they let him.

But.

So a lot of this book that he wrote was prepped because he wanted to have things to say against Flayed.

And the treaties was built using stories from earlier authorities, citations from other experts like the Malleus Maleficarum, and experiences from trials that he did judge.

So he's like, oh, yeah, like this.

I.

When I, like, you know, put this in her foot and she said she was a witch, like, oh, that's clearly how we identify a witch.

You can do it that way.

He did feel that a lot of people were just too lenient when it came to dealing with witches.

Oh, lenient, yeah, they were lenient.

And this is where he said that witchcraft was a Crimean except him.

So C R I M E N acceptum, which excused it from standard investigation methods.

So.

So, you know, like, talking to people or calling witnesses.

Yeah.

Having evidence, you know, that's fine.

He also discredited deathbed confessions of people who are like, no, I really.

I was just said that under torture because he was like, but now that doesn't have the traditional solemnities of the torture room, so those don't count.

He also encouraged denouncements.

So a denouncement is really the idea of, when I get accused, I need to name other People who were in this with me, there ended up being a least 6,000 known people that were accused of witchcraft from these denouncements just for these trials themselves, just for this one.

And trees.

But really, we think about it, the witch trials at this time, really, they wanted to do.

They had two goals.

If you're trying somebody, right, they want to get a confession from the guilty, and they want to know other people who they were talking about, right?

And so Ben swallowed was like, you should, of course, like, talk about other people even.

Especially your family members, because you're saving their souls.

You know, if you don't do this, you know, they're going to burn in hell.

So you should.

You should really do that.

He also sanctioned torture, but he was like, but, you know, like light torture.

That's not even really torture at all.

That's fine.

That doesn't even count.

And he's like, and you know what?

It's okay if we torture children, too.

That's cool.

Yeah.

And so there were trials of children that were allowed under certain conditions.

So Bensfeld thought that girls under the age of 12 and boys under the age of 14 should not be considered guilty of practicing witchcraft.

But because some children are precocious, we can't be completely strict on this law.

I did see somewhere about one of the trials in southern Germany.

So this is.

This area of Treves is on the western side of Germany, on the border of Luxembourg.

So there's two main places in Germany that were really big at the time, southern and southern.

And the western portion, the north portion of Germany, seemed to kind of gotten out of this.

And a lot of people think that's because of the way those cities were set up.

They had.

They had.

They were bigger cities.

They had a stronger government within this part.

This was the Holy Roman Empire at this time.

So they had lots of little villages and townships that all kind of had their own authority.

And.

And also a lot of this was also being plugged in by the church.

Right.

So.

So go ahead.

Those guys.

Those guys, yeah.

So Bensfeld also was like, man, you know, like all these other magistrates who are not.

If you're not zealously pursuing a witch, you're being lazy.

And if you.

If you're a priest and you're not combating witches in your own neighborhood, you're ignorant.

So that is pretty much his.

His asshole thing.

There is, like I said, there's hundreds of people that were killed during this.

Thankfully, the bastard died of the plague, so.

Good.

I hope you got some sores on your dick, dude.

I really.

I really hope that that happened to you.

And it was really painful and smelly.

But before he died, he did create an influential list of demons.

And he was the first person ever to pair demons and associate them with.

With the seven deadly sins.

So, quick rundown on them.

And this is always one of my favorite things because I think it's really impossible to name seven things.

Like how you always, like, can never name all seven dwarves.

You forget one.

So, Diana, can you name the seven deadly sins?

No.

You're not going to try?

I can try for you.

I mean, I know obviously, obviously.

We've got sloth, envy, gluttony, lust, pride.

Ah, that's what I. Blank.

Okay.

Wrath.

Yeah, wrath.

Greed.

Greed.

Ah, Greed or avarice.

Yeah, I did pretty good.

Five's not bad.

Five's good.

Yeah, but it's.

It's just something about trying to name seven things.

Like, I could never.

I usually do five or six.

If it's not in a song, I'm.

Or it's like naming the six flags over Texas.

Like, you always forget.

Like, I don't forget one of the flags, but generally somebody does.

Yeah.

All right.

This is not the audience for me, and you are not the audience for that conversation.

Normal people would forget that.

So instead of deadly sins, I.

Obviously it's a.

It's a Christian concept, but it's something that's been around for a while.

And basically the idea is these are moral transgressions of divine law.

And I'd say arguably that even though they're not identified in this exact way in other religions, they are.

There is a commonality that you find, like these types of things being considered are not sin, but.

But bad.

Whatever you think about them.

And they're kind of just.

They're all just kind of bad things anyways.

It's kind of like.

It's kind of like whether you can be like an atheist and be like, well, the ten Commandments, other than the God one, you know, reorient one God, pretty fucking good rules, you know, like, it falls into the don't be a dick rule.

Yeah, it's really.

If you think about it, it's a lot of it is just how you function in society.

Right.

Universal ethics.

Yeah, just things.

Things that make life better for you and your friends and your family.

So in the Bible.

The Bible never grouped them as the seven deadly sons.

They're mentioned, like, individually throughout it, but they're never grouped together.

They really.

The first time they were grouped together as, like, A pairing.

And it was like, it started off being around 8.

Things kind of bounced around was when the Bible was put into, like, one language.

Right.

When all the versions of the Bible started to come together.

And it kind of goes through.

I think Thomas Aquinas is the one who got it down to the seven.

And so in his list, you know, each sin spawns four sins, and each has an opposing virtue and a symbolic animal.

So we get to find out what.

Yeah, we get animals.

All right.

Okay, so we've got pride.

So that is Lucifer.

And so obviously, because Lucifer's pride is what caused the angel to fall from heaven, he is symbolized by the lion.

Grr.

Okay.

That's pretty common.

That makes sense.

Got it.

And the opposing virtue is humility.

And the idea you can counter this demon by taking credit for nothing and placing the credit for everything with God.

Okay, then we have Avarice.

Agreed.

And this is paired with Maman.

And I don't know that's how you say his name.

I just like saying it.

That.

I've got a really great picture of him from.

I think from the team from the Demonology inferno.

But he looks like his nipples are pierced and there's like money hanging off of them.

He's so great.

Yeah.

This demon was called by Thomas Aquinas as the devil, who is the lord of money.

And his name literally means money in Hebrew and the sins that come out of that.

So if you're greedy, that leads to cheating, that fraud, thievery, murder, and mice laserliness.

And he is symbolized by the wolf.

And that opposing virtue is sufficiency.

I have never heard of sufficiency is a virtue, but I.

If you're going to talk about it that way, I am guessing it means that what I have is sufficient and I don't need to get anything more.

So, like, I don't need to buy all the things that Killstar just sent me of their cute bat candles because I have enough bat, but I don't.

I really don't have enough back candles.

Candles.

And can you.

I mean, can you really?

Yeah, that is a good question.

All right.

Yeah.

Our third one is lust.

Never mind your brain.

Is that so Is that like when they call, like.

Talk about, like, the wolf of Wall Street.

Oh, I didn't.

I'm even howling.

They say that.

Oh, okay.

So our third one is lust, and it's paired with Asmodeus.

And he is.

Or Asmodeus the.

Depending on who you.

Who Says it, I say it's better.

So he is a major demon who figures in a lot of the possession cases.

Also known as the King of nine Hells.

And from the not so Innocent Abroad blog, who did a really great thing on this episode, he's described as being quite the mishmash of animal parts in the dictionary.

Infernal.

He has three heads, a man spitting fire, a sheep and a bull.

He has the torso of the man, one rooster leg and serpent's tail.

And if that isn't enough, he also rides a lion that has dragon's neck and wings.

This guy's got it going.

Yeah, that's a lot going on.

It was very complicated.

Buying pants has to be difficult.

I mean, oh my God, I can't even imagine, you know, or shoes.

I mean, can you imagine having like one.

One rooster leg.

Yeah.

And then trying to fit that in, you know, and with a serpent's tail, like you've got to like put a hole in your pants for that.

Like it's.

He's.

He's got problems.

But he gets to ride a lion with a dragon wing.

So I mean, that's pretty good.

And again, he's lust.

He probably wearing.

Yeah, that's true.

I'm pretty sure the pictures he has a big dick.

So lust leads to infidelity, deceit, betrayal and uncleanliness.

I don't know why it leads to uncleanliness.

Unless like you're just covered in spunk.

I mean, just depends who.

Yeah, stop fucking the dirty people.

Take a shower and take a shower afterwards.

You should always take a shower afterwards and pee if you're a woman.

So you don't have to take antibiotics or uti.

Like I'm doing okay.

He is symbolized by the goat.

So he's got a goat or the ass.

But I prefer to think of him riding a goat or just having a goat.

And his opposing virtue is chastity.

So the fourth is envy.

And that's paired with leviathan, also known as the monster serpent creature who swallows victims whole.

Also sometimes described as a sea monster.

Thought some to be a crocodile.

Although later they're like, it's a whale.

And its name means twisted in folds, which means let many scholars to think that it was a sea serpent.

So I guess sea serpents, which sounds like a note rope of the sea.

So you eels, you're disgusting.

You should die.

So envy or jealousy, that leads to an obsession with possession.

So yeah, I mean, I can see that he is symbolized by the dog.

So the dog is envy.

He Gets the dog after the.

The serpentine thing.

And dogs are not envious.

I guess they're always envious for your love.

They are.

And of their other dog's food.

I mean, if.

Yeah, if the exception of your three dogs.

For most.

If anybody else had three dogs and one dog had a toy and the other two did not have toys, there would be a major shit show.

But in your house, only one.

Dogs are weird.

Yeah.

Toy at first and then the other two don'ts.

Two stop caring in the one just is very happy and protects his baby.

He protects his baby.

Protects his baby.

So cute.

All right.

The fifth one is one of my favorite sins.

I guess they're all kind of my favorite scents, but Gluttony.

Yeah.

Love using Gluttony.

And this is paired with Beelzebub or Lord of the Flies, the prince of demons.

Fritz of lies.

And the idea is eating and drinking don't satisfy, but you go on to exis.

And in hell, the gluttonous are forced to eat toads and drink putrid water.

Water.

So I only think you get to lick the toads, that you had to eat them.

So not.

Not licking toads, but eating them.

And gluttony generates wantonness and a loss of reason.

I couldn't find the animal for this one, and I was very upset.

So, yeah, I don't know.

I guess we'll just have to make up.

What animal is gluttonous?

I guess a pig would make sense.

But.

Yeah, that's the.

That's the easiest answer.

Well, I guess so.

The opposing virtue is sobriety.

Boo.

Boo.

Nobody likes that virtue.

Boring.

Yeah.

This can be remedied with fasting and prayer.

Number six is anger or wrath.

And this is paired with Satan.

And anger leads to rage, vengeance, war, bloodsheds, violence, cruelty, and irrationality, which I can see because there are a lot of.

Like, when I watch, like, my prison shows, there's a really good one that just came out on Discovery plus about prison detox.

And it's about this county in Arkansas that is trying programs for drug offenders who are, like, doing stupid things and really working them through, like, rehab and treatment to try and break the cycle of why they're there.

But there are some, like, inmates who are just irrationally mad all the time.

I'm like, it's like when people get really mad about someone disrespecting them.

Them.

Like, nobody says respect to you and who cares?

Like, move on with your life.

It's irrational.

Yeah.

And this is symbolized by fanged animals like leopards or wild boar, which I don't think of a leopard as a fanged animal, but I guess it is.

I mean, it has fangs, but if you're gonna put in the same category as wild boar, then we're talking, like, tusks.

More like.

Yeah, I don't know if these are fangs.

Like, to me, I think a fang is a snake.

But whatever.

Its opposing virtue is patience.

And so finally, I'm very excited about the last one, which is also.

And you're going to hear why this is going to shout about something.

And you know what?

All right, so sloth.

We got sloth.

Which I said, you know, give me my.

Give me my sloth.

And this is paired with the demon Belphegor.

So.

Also from the not so Innocent Abroad blog, though others say he seduces people by giving them ingenious ideas for inventions that will make them rich and that he was originally worshiped as a phallus.

We have dick magic.

Yes.

Foulis magic.

All right, so he was originally worshipped as a penis.

And he was associated with orgies, which I don't understand for sloth.

Yeah, that's a lot of work.

Yeah.

Orgies are like, unless I just get to lie there while people do stuff to me.

Like, oh, my God, Like.

Like, there's so many people there.

So stressful.

Oh, my God.

I mean.

And that also sounds like it's going to lead to uncleanliness.

Like, you really need to shower.

You want to talk about lust and uncleanliness.

There we go.

Yep.

He's also hell's ambassador to France.

Huh.

Noted.

Which makes me wonder, like, do other, like, demons have other ambassadors?

Like, who is the ambassador to England?

Who is the ambassador to Ghana?

I mean, like, I want to know who the US Ambassador is.

Yeah, me too.

So anyway, sloth spawns laziness, carelessness, apathy, and negligence.

Things I love.

Laziness and apathy.

That's so best.

So good.

And this is.

Sloth is symbolized by the donkey,.

And.

The imposing virtue is diligence.

Boo.

Diligence.

Laugh.

Except for the fact that as much as I love sloth and laziness, I was also raised in a very strict household and feel guilty.

So I will lie there and not do anything.

And the entire time, just think about all the shit I should be doing.

So those are seven deadly sins and their animals.

Yay.

So, yeah, so I really just, I thought, wanted to point that out.

I did not expect Benzfeld to take me down the rabbit hol.

That it did.

And we Will circle back, I'm sure we have always.

So many seasons ago.

So we will talk more about witch trials.

And you know, one of the ones in southern Germany, someone said they actually like took like a whole school of children, executed them.

But I can't.

I couldn't find any other reference.

I saw like one reference.

But yeah, it's all really interesting and sad and Bobby, don't quote from that douchebag anymore.

Fuck that guy.

I'm glad he got boils.

The plague got it right with him.

All right, so yeah, so we figured out that now we know these are the seven deadly sins that they're dealing with.

So the family's death was obviously impacted by sloth.

The three people that wouldn't get off the sofa to even feed themselves when it was right there.

The shoes was caused by envy.

And this is where we know Walter is envy because Walter is the one who was coveting his neighbor's car because his Camry was too dirty and he was too lazy to wash it or paint it or take care of it.

Sorry.

Really envy, though.

Sorry.

But.

And so that, that was, that was that tie back in there.

And then Isaac was killed by gluttony.

So he.

Because he was forced to just like guzzle that, that whatever.

He kept guzzling it until then.

We get this great Daddy Bobby moment.

Oh my God, Bobby.

I was like, oh, so hot for you right now.

Bobby.

This was, this was so good.

He just like.

So Tamara wants to go back and he just like screams at her like, we're going to take a breath and figure out what their next move is.

I was just like, damn, so hot.

Spank me, Daddy Bobby.

Like, he's like, we tried it your way already.

Now we're gonna do.

We're gonna make a plan.

So you like scream at her.

But I think also, I think we're really.

And this is, you know, beyond, you know, the fact that he's yelling, he's taking charge.

And we're really starting to see Bobby go parental dad role and probably doing a better job than John did and.

A leadership role in general.

Like a really leadership role.

So.

And then he apologizes for loss in a very quiet place.

So they all go into the room where they're got Walter tied up in a devil's trap.

And he's.

He's all laughing because he's like, oh, you'll figure out who I am.

Hahaha.

But he's not gonna answer any questions at first.

So basically the problem is, is that they can't offer him anything.

He already got what he wanted.

They're all out and free.

So.

So fuck, fuck you guys.

Is basically his attitude.

And he thinks it's just fun to have his attitude, his demonic attitude is that it's fun to see people's insides on their outside.

So when Tamara is, you know, talking about like wanting to kill him and it just brings him glee because basically he's like, see, you know, you've got all this inside of you anyways kind of an attitude.

So it's kind of.

It's pretty dark, honestly.

Yeah.

Is it like, you know, Dean, you're walking billboard for gluttony and lust.

Tamra is full of wrath.

And then he says like was really what I said I thought was kind of profound.

He was, you know, we're not sins, man.

We are natural human instinct.

And you can repress and deny us all you want, but the truth is you were just animals.

Horny, greedy, hungry, violent animals.

And at least three of those are generally right with me.

Horny, greedy and hungry.

That's death.

I mean, those are three of my favorite things.

So.

And Tamara gets.

Gets her way and she starts exercising.

Envy.

Yeah.

So anyways, so sorry, where am I at?

Yeah, so Tamara's doing that and Bobby's like, hey, these demons are going to be hunting us now.