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Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Let's take another trip down memory lane.

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Today we travel back to June

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performance in a horror mystery.

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The thing I'm happy to have Zoe

Richardson from his show Back

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Look Cinema here with me today.

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Zoe is a podcaster and a movie

enthusiast, an artist who enjoys creating

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graphic art, a comic book lover from

way back, a lover of sci-fi books.

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So hopefully he enjoyed the

thing, the sci-fi nature of that.

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also an insatiable video game player and

I was actually very honored to guest on

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Back Look Cinema a little while back.

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And we covered the super fun

85 movie that was Teen Wolf.

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And Zoe is actually, just coming

back from hiatus and he will be

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back with new episodes by the

time this episode comes out.

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So Zoe, thank you so much for joining me.

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Tell us more about you and your show.

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Zo Richardson: Thank you.

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It's great to be here.

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So I am in the process of

retooling the show, just slightly.

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and the way that I'm retooling it

actually, I've kind of been doing

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it already, so I wanna focus on,

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having guests on the show.

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So the goal is to have a guest on

every episode and, the focus on,

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what we liked about the movie and

the trivia, like I always do, but

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sometimes I feel like it runs too long.

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So I'll probably arrange it in such a way

that I'll have three things that we liked

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about the movie and then like maybe, 10

interesting things of trivia, like the

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top 10 trivia, well trivia things that

I found interesting about the movie.

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And it's like when you dig into

the behind the scenes, you find

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a lot of interesting things.

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As a matter of fact, I was just

reading that, I forgot his name,

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but the guy who played the shark

on Jaws, do you remember that dude?

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Katie: The shark hunter.

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Ooh.

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Zo Richardson: Right?

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the guy from the boat, right?

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So it was his boat.

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I

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remember the name of the Yeah.

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Quentin, that's so the guy, the,

his son, that guy's son is actually

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doing a stage play of the behind

the scenes shenanigans on Jaws.

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So

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because, right.

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So the trivia movies is really

interesting and that's what something

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I want to, I don't want that to

be the focus of my podcast, but I

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wanna highlight that on a podcast

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and, that those are some of

the things that we're doing.

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Katie: That sounds really fun.

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I'm really excited for new episodes.

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So well, shall we get into the

retro frame of mind by opening the

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time capsule from ? June, 1982.

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Okay.

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So the early eighties.

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We haven't covered a ton.

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and you know, I was like a year,

not quite even a year old at this

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time, so I don't recall a lot of

these shows, but some in syndication.

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But it's kind of fun to go

back to the early eighties.

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It's very different from

the late eighties I found.

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so according to Nielsen ratings from the

81 to 82 season, the popular primetime

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shows were Dallas, the Jeffersons

Threes company, which I freaking love.

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I still watch that show Alice the Dukes

of Hazard two Close for Comfort, which I,

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had never heard of that Have you heard of?

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Too Close for Comfort.

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Used to watch it all the time.

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Katie: Really?

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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It's about, cartoonist and his family.

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And that's what I found so

fascinating about the show.

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He wrote a, I think the name of

his, it was like a daily strip in a

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newspaper, and I think the name of

his strip was called The Cosmic Cow.

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And it's it's not focused on that

work, but it was just, it's like

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in a plateau of like TV landscapes

where you have the main characters

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as doctors, lawyers, or plumbers or,

waitresses or that sort of thing.

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This guy had a totally unusual lifestyle.

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He was a cartoonist

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and that's how he supported his family.

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And I

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remember this one particular storyline

where, he had drawn the panels for the

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comic and he was supposed to submit

them to the newspaper for work, and

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somebody had destroyed the panels and

he had to draw them all over again.

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So

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Katie: That's very sitcom.

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That's super sitcom.

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Zo Richardson: yeah.

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Katie: I did read that was actually based,

there was a British show, as we often do.

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we kind of imitate what the

British do, but Oh, interesting.

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So you've, okay.

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I've never seen too close for comfort,

so that sounds like a fun one.

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Mash, did you watch Mash?

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Were you a MASH

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Zo Richardson: Yeah, I watched, I wa

I don't know if I was a mass person,

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I knew that when the theme song came

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on, it was time to go do something else.

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I was like, oh, my time

for watching TV is over.

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And I watched some episodes

sometimes it was like, I would

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watch it and I would enjoy it, but

I wouldn't watch it on purpose.

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But it had, it was such a draw to me

that when the final episode aired,

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I had to watch the episode, like the

series finale, and it was gripping.

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it.

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was way more potent.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was incredible.

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It was like, 'cause it was more dramatic.

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The

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season, the series finale, the

one that ended the entire series.

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So this is when they had to, it

was a chaotic escape from Korea

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because this is a show about the

Korean War and it was hardly funny.

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It was so

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serious.

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And, it was about a lot of it covered

like the post-traumatic stress that

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the, the doctors had gone

through while they were in Korea.

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So

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yeah, it was incredible.

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Katie: I actually haven't seen it,

but I have isn't it in like the

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records, like the most watched bit of

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: ever or something

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Zo Richardson: it's one of the most,

yeah, it's one of the most watched,

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'cause it was a very popular show.

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So it was one of the most watched series

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finale, in history.

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Katie: interesting, huh, okay.

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Also popular at this time was One Day

at a Time, and Archie Bunker's Place.

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So those were the top shows.

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Were you into the Dallas, like

those like the soap opera ones?

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Did you watch any of those ever?

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Zo Richardson: that's one of those

things where if I seen them, it's only

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because somebody else was watching.

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So my mom's watching or my

grand, my grandparents are

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watching or something like that.

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I'm not watching it, it

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just happens to be on TV and I

don't want to get up and go to

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my room, so I'm gonna watch this.

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and I was, and I watched enough of

it to get caught up in who Shot JR.

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But I couldn't tell you all of

the characters in, in Dallas

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or Falcon Crest or any of that.

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I just knew that they were on and I had

to watch 'cause they were watching it.

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Katie: The who Shot Jr.

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That's how I, that's I've never seen

Dallas, but I know it's so a part of pop

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culture that I know that's from Dallas.

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Yeah.

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It's crazy Town and I never watched,

so there's Company and The Jeffersons

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are two shows that were super

popular at this time that obviously

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I didn't watch when I was an infant.

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But those are, two shows that have

really found, a place in syndication.

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They're both on all the time.

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And that's how I've seen those two

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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It's funny with the Jeffersons, I

used to always think that it was a

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syndication of, I never knew that there

were new episodes by the time, or maybe

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it was 'cause it was 1982, I think I,

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I was watching those shows like The

Jeffersons forever and, Three's company.

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That's a trip because you, people

say things like, well, a show

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like that can't be made today.

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And I think a show can be made like

that can be made today, but it'd be a

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lot of like pushback and controversy

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over that show because it was

like, it was pushing against a lot

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of cultural taboos at that time.

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Katie: That's

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Zo Richardson: And so it was a since it

was, and that's what made the show funny.

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It was, it was basic based on the

culture of the time, on the time when

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they were, they would have female

only housing and the guys trying to,

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and it was another show like that

starring Tom Hanks, Booz and Buddies.

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But that's

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a older show.

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And these,

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Katie: it ended that, the

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Zo Richardson: right, so Bos and

Buzz is about guys cross-dressing

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so they can get affordable housing.

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three's company is about a guy pretending

to be gay, so he could live with two

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women so he could have affordable housing.

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So It's incredible

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Katie: It what a time.

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What a time.

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And nobody, it, what's funny about that is

nowadays people would be up in arms about,

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Zo Richardson: Oh yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Katie: people have a cow about stuff that

like, it's be upset about real things.

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How about, okay,

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Zo Richardson: Right.

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And here's the thing, they'll say, oh,

they didn't do that back in my day.

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And I'm like, they were

doing exactly that back in

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your day,

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Katie: Exactly.

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Exactly.

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There are so many examples of it.

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I know.

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I

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Zo Richardson: Right, right.

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Katie: I could go on.

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But yeah.

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let's see.

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So also what ended, it's interesting,

like I do feel older than I am because

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I remember watching, reruns of W K R

P in Cincinnati and that ended in 82.

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Like its finale was in

82, like it ended in 82.

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That's crazy.

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Also ending in 82 was Mark and

Mindy, and Laverne and Shirley.

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I'm very familiar with all of these

shows, but I never watched them.

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But obviously they ended

by, you know, basically when

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I was born,

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Zo Richardson: I, feel like I've watched

all the sitcoms 'cause most of the

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shows you have named so

far, I've watched those

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Katie: oh, sitcom sitcoms are

my jam because in the eighties,

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so do you have any guesses of

some sitcoms that started in 82?

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Zo Richardson: Nope, not a clue.

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I'm bad with time.

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Katie: okay, cheers.

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Started

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in 82, family ties and silver spoons

also night writer, but it's not a sitcom.

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But I feel like this is kind of the

advent of the ultimate sitcom decade.

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You know, like we're moving away from some

of these like soaps and stuff like that.

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Zo Richardson: yeah, that's when they

had, must see, I think, I don't know if

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they called it must see tv, but it was

something about a Thursday night that,

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N B C had a slogan because

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they had this Thursday night up

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and,

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Katie: I think, yeah, you're right.

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Oh, Thursdays were the

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's when I think, the

lineup was The Cosby Show.

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A different World

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Cheers.

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And a couple other shows.

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I felt like I watched them all

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Katie: you have a really good memory.

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I, me too.

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most of the episodes I've done so

far have been more like mid or late

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eighties, or even early nineties.

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So like the same, like cheers on

the Roseanne and the Golden and

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Girls Like, and The Cosby Show.

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Those are like mainstays

in the top ratings.

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But, so since this is 82, it's a

little different, which is a nice

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little refresh, refreshing change.

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Zo Richardson: Right.

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And you mentioned night Writer.

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I remember that was like

an event, like the first

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episode of the night writer

Everybody had to gather around

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and watch this first episode.

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Katie: Oh, and that's, what's his face?

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David Hasselhoff.

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Is he Knight, right?

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Or is Knight Rider the car?

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Who's Knight?

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Zo Richardson: Knight Knight

Rider refers to the character

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that David Hasselhoff plays.

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His name is Michael Knight, so

they call him the Knight Rider

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is a play on, the time of day night,

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and his name Knight, and he

works for the Knight Foundation

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and a lot of bit to the lure.

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the car was like, an advanced

prototype of basically an AI

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operated, self-aware automobile

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and they go out and fight crime.

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Yeah.

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So

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that's Knight Rider We all loved it.

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Katie: I can see guys,

boys really liking that.

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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My aunt, my, my aunt liked that show too.

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and I was surprised.

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Katie: well, or maybe, are

there attractive people in it?

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David Hasselhoff was probably

like pretty to look at.

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Zo Richardson: it's Hollywood.

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it's all Pretty people

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Katie: people.

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So there's something for everyone.

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Always.

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Zo Richardson: right?

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Katie: were you, were you a

Saturday morning cartoon kid?

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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That's the only time I willingly got

up early on Saturday morning, was I

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would get up as early as possible.

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I would get up, I would try to get

up at six o'clock to catch the,

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'cause sometimes they, they

would have like vintage cartoons,

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like in the early hours before the

cla, the regular, the current cartoons.

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So I remember getting up early to try

to watch, something like Felix the Cat,

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or I don't know, some old Spider-Man

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I would try to get up

early to watch those.

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And then the regular cartoons would start

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Katie: Dang.

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I don't remember getting

up that early, but I do.

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Oh, Saturday mornings was the best.

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And in 82, so some of my favorites, I,

again, like I remember a lot of things.

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I must have just saw a lot of reruns

because I loved The Smurfs, which

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was, one of the big shows in 82.

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I mean, that spanned like

nine seasons, I wanna say.

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Katie: and then also shirt tails.

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This is the first time

shirt tails has come up.

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So 82, do you remember the shirt tails?

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Little Animals?

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No.

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Okay.

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yeah.

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And then on Sundays, captain

Kangaroo, did you ever watch that?

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Zo Richardson: yes, I watched a

little bit of Captain Kangaroo until

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I felt as though I aged out of it,

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Katie: Okay.

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What

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Zo Richardson: I definitely watched,

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Katie: what were some of

your favorite cartoons?

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Zo Richardson: I don't know

when they came out, but you've

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mentioned a lot of them on the show.

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So

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there was the Transformers, spider-Man

and his amazing friends, and then that

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was paired with the Incredible Hulk.

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and then there, there was like

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the Bugs Bunny, he

roadrunner like 90 minute,

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cartoon.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And there was, I mean, I was

watching that all the time.

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And then there's Hannah Bara Laugh

Olympics and that's always fun.

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Katie: Yes.

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I love all the Hanna Bara stuff.

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all their cartoons.

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Like I'll watch anything.

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Yeah.

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Zo Richardson: Right, right.

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Katie: I liked a lot of the sixties stuff

Flintstones was one my favorites, and I

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don't think it was on a, they had like

spinoffs, like the baby versions and

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stuff like that, and they weren't as good,

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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right.

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right.

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That was actually, I would just

say that actually aired when it

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originally aired that it aired.

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In, in, at nighttime at, what

do you call it, primetime.

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That was primetime television.

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Katie: the Flintstones.

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was actually meant, yeah, it, as if

you remember back in the day when, like

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the television, the actors themselves

would advertise certain products

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so that's where, you know, the sponsors,

they would have they would do the ads

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as opposed to like TV commercials or

along with regular TV commercials.

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So you have Fred Flintstones, the

animated character, doing commercials

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for like cigarettes, right.

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Katie: oh my God.

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that, oh my God, that's amazing.

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Actually, like in its own

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Zo Richardson: Yeah.

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Katie: That's

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Zo Richardson: Right,

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Katie: I didn't know that.

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I didn't know it was on Prime time.

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Cool.

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I watched it like after school, the

Flintstones and the Brady Bunch was on.

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After school, like at

three 30 on t b s always.

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So I watch those after school

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Zo Richardson: right.

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Oh yeah.

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Fact, check me on the Flintstone thing.

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I'm like 90% sure that it's accurate.

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Katie: It's okay.

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we like to speculate on the show.

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No worries at all.

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. have you heard of, so then there's like

this, like midday programming that like

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after, like all the good cartoons are

on, this is one I didn't know existed.

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It's the Gary Coleman show was, in

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like animated, but it was Gary Coleman.

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Zo Richardson: Oh,

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I may Have seen a little bit of, I've

probably seen a little bit of that.

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Like every, a lot of celebrities had

cartoons, MC Hammer, harder cartoon for a

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little while.

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the Jackson Five, obviously

they had a cartoon.

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the Globe Triers had a cartoon.

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Katie: the Globetrotters.

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Zo Richardson: but I think I remember

a little bit of Gary Copeman.

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Oh, do you remember Mr.

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T had a cartoon

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Katie: he certainly did.

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Zo Richardson: he had an action

figure that was 12 inches high.

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Katie: Really,

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Zo Richardson: Yeah,

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Katie: funny.

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Zo Richardson: I remember the song

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Katie: oh God, Mr.

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So I literally just got done

recording for my Rocky show and

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we're in Rocky three right now.

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So we have Mr.

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T, so he will forever.

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Mr.

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T to me is Clever Lang.

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Zo Richardson: right?

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Katie: Sort of on that note, were

you, did you watch wrestling at all?

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Zo Richardson: Oh man.

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I watched wrestling all the time.

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And as a matter of fact, there

was, there used to be a, a

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Saturday morning show that WWF did

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well, back at the time it was called W

F and it was called the Saturday Morning

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Superstars.

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And it's I would watch it, but

you didn't always get like the

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prime wrestlers in that show.

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So you would get like the,

a lot of the unnamed or.

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tier wrestlers on superstars.

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And then every once in a while they'll

throw in like a Hulk Hogan or an

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Iron Sheik or something like that.

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I, but I don't remember there being

a whole lot of the, like the big

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name wrestlers.

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Oh,

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also they also had a cartoon

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Katie: yep.

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my God.

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There was a cartoons in the eighties.

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Literally everything.

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I'm not, and I did, in doing the

show, I learned that a lot of things

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like lasted for half a season or

something like, but they would

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Zo Richardson: yeah,

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Katie: would try anything, see if

kids would watch it and buy cereal

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in the commercials or whatever

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Zo Richardson: yeah.

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Katie: they were trying to sell us.

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Zo Richardson: But yeah,

I was all about wrestling.

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Katie: who are your wrestlers at all,

but also like early eighties is very

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different than like later in the decade.

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Zo Richardson: Right, right.

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I don't remember the timeframe,

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but .Like I started, obviously

I started off with Hulk Hogan.

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he was a big draw.

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I was drawn in just

like everybody else was.

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And then later on it's

like the junkyard dog

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and somebody like, and then there's

like people that I didn't know

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that I enjoyed watching 'cause

I love to hate him so much.

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So there was somebody like macho man

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and it's you know, he was so bad.

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I hated the macho man 'cause he was like,

everything against everything I stood for.

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But he is so entertaining.

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I didn't realize until I watched this,

YouTube clip and he was doing this thing

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with, you know, those little cups of

cream that you put in your coffee that you

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get at seven 11.

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And he was doing this speech in his

promo about the cream of the crop.

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He's being interviewed by Mean

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Gene Erland.

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And he was talking about

I'm the cream of the crop.

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And he was taking these little cups

and he was putting 'em all over and

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he's trying to put it on his shoulder.

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He's trying to put it on

top of mean Gene's head.

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And he is saying the little cups of

falling and he just producing these

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little cups of cream, putting 'em

all over the place while he's talking

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about how he's the cream of the

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crop.

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And, and then there are other

ones like, I like Undertaker.

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Maybe he

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was like the early

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nineties, but he was

definitely one of my dudes.

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and then there were the rockers

who I believe came out in the late

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eighties before they broke up.

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And, the, the guys with

the face paint like sting

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and the,

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Katie: Oh,

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Zo Richardson: You You had Sting,

you had, the Road Warriors.

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I

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was struggling to remember their name.

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you had, all of the, all of those guys.

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you had the Harlem Heat.

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Love those guys.

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Katie: Well, I don't

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Zo Richardson: And

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Katie: Heat.

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Zo Richardson: they're, well,

you probably know one of them.

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It's, oh, goodness gracious.

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I'm forgetting everything.

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You got me on the spot here.

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I'm

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losing memory, but,

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Katie: remembering a lot more than I do.

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Zo Richardson: right.

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So Harlem Heat was a black tag

team pur from Harlem, but in

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real life, never lived in Harlem.

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it was, gosh, gosh, I can't remember.

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I'll remember later on.

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and then, with Harlem Heat, they

started in W C W and then, after,

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actually they, they spent all,

almost all of their time in W C W.

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And then when, WWE bought W C W,

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some of the wrestlers, including

Harlem Heat went over to WWE

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Booker t I knew I was gonna

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remember.

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So Book Booker t is

somebody you would know.

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And the other one,

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I, his name goes in and outta memory.

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Then, my fav one of my

favorite wrestlers of all time.

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from that area at least, late

eighties, early nineties,

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that was the ultimate warrior.

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And I used to love watching the Ultimate

Warrior, apparently caused a lot of,

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wasn't everybody's favorite wrestler

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as far as the people who

actually had to work yeah.

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The other wrestlers.

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Right, right, right.

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As a matter of fact, the, they hated

them so bad that they came out with

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a disc video on the Ultimate Warrior.

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This is long after he left.

498

Yeah.

499

And then, like later on, it's

like they re they made amends

500

him, the Ultimate Warrior and wwe.

501

So they came out with a, like a,

an alternate video series that kind

502

of praised the ultimate warrior

and his exploits in wrestling.

503

and then I forgot about Andre, the

giant obvi, he's definitely one of

504

the ma, one of the main men, and I'm

forgetting a whole bunch of wrestlers,

505

that I used to love the SSID Vicious.

506

Katie: Oh, I don't know.

507

Zo Richardson: I mentioned Sting.

508

There was, he's just a big, just

a great big Viking looking dude,

509

and he almost always has short hair there.

510

There's also the

511

Steiner Brothers.

512

I love the Steiner Brothers.

513

Katie: Dang.

514

You have a really good memory.

515

It's so funny because, wrestling, the

vast majority of my guests have been men.

516

And even though I'm a girl, I do, I

remember watching wrestling, but wrestling

517

must have been such a thing that,

518

Zo Richardson: Right?

519

Katie: that I've talked

to who was into it.

520

Zo Richardson: yeah, it's

just a male soap opera.

521

It's, and it's just

522

fun to watch them.

523

And it's it's so different now.

524

Back when I was growing

up, we used to think it was

525

real, and it's and then you

would get into con we would call

526

them conversations with people.

527

It's well, wrestling isn't real.

528

It's yeah, it's right.

529

Katie: Yeah.

530

your team sucks.

531

Nuh, yours does.

532

Zo Richardson: yeah.

533

But, and then later on

that all changed, but

534

still, it's different looking at it now

than when we thought that it, was real.

535

Katie: Agreed.

536

I mean, I obviously don't follow it

now, but, and some people still do.

537

I just can't imagine it being as

fun, like just knowing, I don't know.

538

Zo Richardson: Well, I see, I

still catch the occasional mask.

539

See, the drama is still there.

540

Like the storylines are still there.

541

And that's all we were really following

542

were the storylines even back in the day.

543

Katie: all,

544

Zo Richardson: We just, the

only thing we know right?

545

The only thing that we know

is that it's predetermined.

546

So what you got, what you understand

is that now you're watching a bunch

547

of stunt performers perform stunts.

548

So the stunts that they perform are

549

fascinating and I like it today because

550

there are so many more

women wrestlers now,

551

and they are fantastic.

552

So one of my favorite is Charlotte Flair.

553

She's the daughter of Rick Flair,

554

Katie: I hear

555

Zo Richardson: she does

556

Katie: isn't she?

557

Zo Richardson: She does one of my

favorite finishers of all time.

558

So she does a variation of Rick

Flair, his finisher was the

559

figure four leg lock and you know,

560

a pretty much basic moves.

561

He just gets your leg, he wraps him up

and he racks you in pain until you submit.

562

So she does her own version of the

figure four leg leg lock where she

563

gets you in a bind and she arches

her back and then she does something

564

extra I forgot what it's called.

565

But it's a, when you see

it, it's a fascinating move

566

and, it's just mesmerizing,

the athleticism.

567

'cause it's still athleticism.

568

I mean, the outcome is predetermined, but

they're still falling onto real tables.

569

They're being hit with wheelchairs

when they die from the top rope

570

onto the concrete floor of the

stadium, it's, that's real.

571

Right.

572

That they're still getting hurt.

573

Right.

574

Katie: Oh, I, I've, yes.

575

I very much appreciate that

it's, it is real and it does take

576

talent, and it's a lot of, yeah.

577

To your point, I just

578

Zo Richardson: So that's,

579

Katie: bit.

580

I'm like, well, if you know

that, it's just I don't know.

581

Zo Richardson: It's, but it's

funny, it's entertaining.

582

the recent, I haven't been

watching, but I'm kind of, but

583

my stunt still watches a lot, so

584

I get hints of what's

going on in wrestling.

585

So one of the recent storylines

is, Ray Mysterio, junior, Ray

586

Mysterio Jr's son is in wrestling.

587

Dominique Ma Mysterio.

588

And, but he's a heel and he's

turned, he's joined a heel group.

589

So as groups tend to do, they'll

590

beat up on Ray Mysterio

or something like that.

591

So there's tension between

Ray Mysterio and his son.

592

'cause Ray Mysterio doesn't

wanna fight his son,

593

but his son wants to fight

to prove that he's a man.

594

And it's a whole

595

big thing.

596

So that's the nice storyline to follow.

597

There's another nice storyline

that happened where you had,

598

Oh, shoot, I forgot name.

599

I'm forgetting names now.

600

So there's this group where you had

the world champion and his brothers

601

were with him, and they're from

like the island Pacific Islanders.

602

And, he's been wrestling

for a very long time.

603

Roman

604

Reigns and Roman brings, and you had

his, his, his cousins are his, like part

605

of his crew and he has a whole bunch of

people that are part of his crew, but then

606

his cousins that the tag team champions,

they, he's having beef with them.

607

they're not what you call it.

608

they're not, they're

fighting amongst themselves.

609

and there's tension.

610

So now because they wanna

shine and he won't let them

611

shine is that sort of thing.

612

And so now they're, you know, they're

building up to a big fight between

613

Roman Reigns and his, and his crew.

614

So the

615

storyline still work for me

616

just because it's they, 'cause they know

how to write it to, to make it appealing

617

and,

618

Katie: true.

619

I can see

620

Zo Richardson: yeah.

621

it's just a live action cartoon.

622

Katie: Yeah, that's a

good way of putting it.

623

And I like how you say it's

a soap opera for boys or men.

624

that's a

625

Zo Richardson: yeah.

626

Yeah.

627

Katie: you know.

628

Zo Richardson: Right, right.

629

Katie: mentioned, Andre the Giant,

630

like really big wrestlers, you'll

probably remember these guys.

631

Big John Stud, you remember Big John

632

Zo Richardson: yes.

633

Katie: Gorilla Monsoon.

634

Zo Richardson: I know him as an announcer.

635

I'd never seen him wrestle.

636

Katie: Okay.

637

So he's probably a, he's probably

an out, an announcer then,

638

Jesse Ventura

639

Zo Richardson: Yes.

640

Katie: and then Captain Lou Albano,

641

Zo Richardson: Right.

642

Katie: the bearded like fat guy

with like rubber bands in his beard.

643

and there, yeah, he was in the cartoon.

644

I remember the cartoon with him in it.

645

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

646

And the funny thing about Captain Lou,

he's been in a couple of music videos.

647

I know that he was in one with, Cyndi

648

Laufer.

649

Thank you, God.

650

It's it was right on the tip of my tongue.

651

Glad you got it out.

652

And then, 'cause I was gonna get stuck.

653

He also played, he was one of the

first actors to play a live action.

654

Mario, as

655

Mario from the video game,

super Mario Brothers.

656

Katie: Oh,

657

I didn't know that.

658

Zo Richardson: the live action version

on television, when Mario had a cartoon.

659

and then there's, what you call

it, yeah, the rubber bands.

660

The rubber

661

bands were a thing, right?

662

That's

663

just, his, style.

664

And he's, he was right.

665

And he wrestled for a long time.

666

Like by the time I started, I started

wr watching wrestling, at least

667

when I started paying attention.

668

gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura,

they had become announcers.

669

They weren't wrestling

670

Katie: Okay, got it.

671

Okay.

672

Zo Richardson: but, but he was

Captain Lu Bannon was still

673

wrestling.

674

Katie: Well, he like Cyndi Lauper somehow,

like they became friends 'cause she kind

675

of became a part of wrestling somehow.

676

I remember her being like a fan of

Rowdy, rowdy Piper and stuff too.

677

It what a weird

678

Zo Richardson: Oh yeah, that's another guy

I forgot to mention that he was awesome.

679

Roddy,

680

rowdy Roddy Piper and, Cyndi Loffer.

681

I know that she performed in one of the

Wrestlemanias, but I don't know how many

682

shows that she appeared on,

but she at least did that.

683

Katie: Yep.

684

Agree.

685

Yep.

686

the Rock's dad, Rocky Johnson

apparently was big in 82.

687

Zo Richardson: Yeah, absolutely.

688

he was part of a tag

team for the most part.

689

That's how I think, his partner

was like s Samson or something

690

like that.

691

and they were like, I don't know if

they were ever tag team champions, but I

692

know they were very prominent TAG team.

693

Katie: okay.

694

Yeah, I don't remember him at all.

695

so I don't, I,

696

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

697

I don't remember, I don't remember

watching him wrestle, but I remember

698

when the Rock started being promoted by

699

wwe, they would promote him as the

first, third generation wrestler because

700

his grandfather was, what's his name?

701

Something Maya via Grand Chief Maya Via,

702

and when the Rock first came on,

he called himself Rocky Maia.

703

So Maya Via was for his grandfather

and Rocky was for his father.

704

Rocky Johnson.

705

Katie: Good to know.

706

also, Mr.

707

Fuji.

708

Zo Richardson: Yes, I remember.

709

Went to Fuji.

710

he was a manager though.

711

I

712

don't think he was a wrestler.

713

Katie: These might, these

are just people in wrestling.

714

Zo Richardson: Right, right, right, right.

715

Katie: And then Ika, S I K A.

716

Ika.

717

Ika.

718

Zo Richardson: I don't remember him.

719

Katie: I think he was like

a warrior esque looking

720

Zo Richardson: Nope.

721

Doesn't, Nope.

722

don't got 'em.

723

Katie: Well, move on to music of 1982,

specifically the week of June 25th,

724

which is when the thing came out.

725

So the Top billboards this

week, there's some good ones.

726

Number one song is Ebony and Ivory by

727

Zo Richardson: Oh yeah.

728

Katie: Stevie Wonder.

729

Zo Richardson: Right.

730

Katie: I don't like that

731

song,

732

Zo Richardson: you?

733

I love that song.

734

Well, I grew up with that song.

735

So

736

Katie: I don't know.

737

Zo Richardson: and Paul McCartney's

had some great collaboration.

738

So he did some with Stevie Wonder,

he did some with Michael Jackson and,

739

Katie: oh

740

yeah.

741

Zo Richardson: other people.

742

but yeah, I always liked that

song, but it's not, you know,

743

not everybody's gonna like, it.

744

don't feel

745

shame.

746

Katie: all right.

747

All things are not for all people.

748

Zo Richardson: Right.

749

There you go.

750

There you go.

751

Katie: I do some of these other ones.

752

So number two is, don't You

Want Me by the Human League?

753

I loved that.

754

That was like starting to

get that like eighties sound.

755

Do

756

Zo Richardson: Right.

757

I don't remember him.

758

I like, I know.

759

Katie: want me, right?

760

Zo Richardson: Nope.

761

Still, Nope.

762

that still, I my memory is

fractured What are some other

763

Katie: What about Totos?

764

Rosanna number three song this week?

765

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

766

Yeah.

767

I remember that one.

768

Katie: Then, heat the heat

of the moment by Asia.

769

I don't remember Asia.

770

What else did they sing anyway?

771

Zo Richardson: You know what's funny

is that there are a lot of songs

772

that I listened to growing up that

I didn't know who sang them until I

773

started using, like streaming music.

774

Like I used YouTube, YouTube

music to stream my music.

775

And so you get to see

the name of the artist

776

who sang.

777

I was like, oh, that's who sang this song.

778

Katie: I'm the same way because

we didn't have, or even like on

779

the radio now it's digitized.

780

So you, a lot of times it'll

show you who it is, but

781

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

782

Yeah.

783

Katie: we were growing up.

784

Zo Richardson: Right.

785

Katie: have a digital radio unless you

happen to catch the video on M T V, but,

786

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

787

That or the dj.

788

I mentioned the name of the person.

789

I mean,

790

there are a lot of times they'll

say the name of the person when

791

they play the song, but a lot

of times I'm also not paying

792

attention, so I'll just go and I'm

blissfully ignorant, I don't know.

793

And I don't care.

794

I just I like this song.

795

Especially like when

you're young, like when

796

you're in a single digits or you're

in your early teens, like you're 10 or

797

12, maybe you don't care about

who sang the song that much.

798

It's only when you get 15 and

799

16 that you start caring

who the artist is.

800

Right?

801

Right.

802

And so you get the power

to buy your own albums.

803

So you have to know the

artist is, and then you start

804

putting posters of people on

805

your wall.

806

You know, it, it's a progression.

807

Katie: Who'd you have who, what posters.

808

Speaking of what posters

did you have on your wall?

809

Do you remember

810

Zo Richardson: most.

811

Mostly it was like

science fiction posters.

812

like there was this movie called

Dark Man, had a Dark Man poster up.

813

I had the cast of Star Trek,

the Next Generation, that poster

814

I

815

Katie: Oh,

816

Zo Richardson: I think

I found it somewhere.

817

Yeah.

818

and stuff like that.

819

I don't remember any, like actors

or singers, like an actor, just

820

for sake of being an actor.

821

They had to have played something.

822

but I, those two I remember

823

specifically, but I know

I had plenty of others.

824

I just can't think of 'em

825

Right.

826

now.

827

But those two are top of mind.

828

I probably had a bunch of Star

Trek posters, but not, not many.

829

singing,

830

or Singers.

831

Right, right.

832

Or bands or groups.

833

I know I had favorite groups,

but I didn't have their posters.

834

Katie: Who's your favorite group?

835

Zo Richardson: one of them was, yeah.

836

well, the earliest ones that

I can remember, I remember I

837

bought, my fir, the first album

I ever bought was George Michael

838

Faith.

839

Katie: good.

840

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

841

Yeah.

842

and then I also liked New Edition.

843

then there's,

844

Katie: Is that with Bobby Brown?

845

Was he a new edition?

846

Zo Richardson: And when by the, well,

I liked them the entire time, like

847

when they first came out, I think

it was like the early eighties.

848

So I liked them the entire

time, but I wasn't able, even

849

really able to buy the album.

850

Or, the funny thing is I'm not

even cognizant that I could

851

buy albums until later on,

852

but, so by the time I was cognizant

that I could buy album, it was,

853

the, the later ones when they just

had brought in Johnny Gill and

854

Bobby Brown was out the group.

855

But there, there was also, and then the

separate constituents of new editions.

856

So like Johnny Gill by himself,

Bobby Brown by himself, and Biv Devo

857

and, tr Ralph Tresvant by himself.

858

And then there's also

like heavy d and the boys

859

and the guy that used to call himself

the Fresh Prince, DJ So it's actually

860

when they first came out, it was

DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince.

861

So I like,

862

that dual or group.

863

Katie: that was good.

864

God, I kind of forgot what was

like, what was one of those?

865

Was it summertime?

866

Was that them,

867

Zo Richardson: Well, yeah, that's them.

868

that's, them.

869

but when I started listening to 'em, like

the first song that I really recognized

870

them was a song called Parents Just Don't

871

Understand.

872

And that and that's the, it didn't

introduce me to rap music 'cause

873

I would hear it but I would,

874

it wasn't clicking with me at the time,

875

the earlier rap stuff.

876

But that was the song that

really got me into rap music was

877

Parents just don't understand.

878

And that was like the Yeah.

879

. Yeah, because it spoke to

880

me, it was speaking my language.

881

'cause parents didn't

882

understand.

883

Yeah.

884

And then it, yeah.

885

Yeah.

886

and then it I think that was the first

rap album that I bought and Yeah.

887

yeah.

888

And also it's LL Cool j

889

I think that my cousin

took me to that concert.

890

Katie: what a, oh, ll oh man.

891

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

892

Right, right.

893

So tho those are some of the acts

that I really enjoyed growing up.

894

Katie: Those are good ones.

895

all right.

896

I'm gonna circle back to the

remainder of the top 10 in June of 82.

897

Willie Nelson's always on my mind.

898

That was 82.

899

Huh?

900

I, for some reason, thought

that was like older than that,

901

Zo Richardson: It

902

is just 'cause he sounds old

903

Katie: Yeah.

904

. Yeah.

905

Yeah.

906

He's like forever, like 70

907

or

908

Zo Richardson: Right?

909

Absolutely.

910

Katie: The number six song is

literally one of my favorite songs

911

Ever Hurt So Good by John Cougar.

912

That album, again, this is 82, I just,

like older things, but that is, that's

913

one of those few albums where almost

every song is like a hit or really

914

good, you know, you don't have to skip.

915

It's a

916

that's a great album.

917

Zo Richardson: love those.

918

Unskilled For me, that's

George Michael's album.

919

Katie: Yep.

920

Zo Richardson: That's,

the New Edition album.

921

I, what's it called?

922

I can't remember what it's called, but

like the, like I said, the one that I

923

mentioned earlier, that's Unskipable.

924

even, he's the dj.

925

I'm the rapper.

926

That's why DJ Jazzy DAF from

the Press Prince that I feel

927

like that's ins skippable,

928

but maybe it's because I just

listened to him over and over

929

again.

930

Katie: And you get to know like

when one song ends, you like know

931

exactly what the next song is

932

Zo Richardson: yeah.

933

It gets bad,

934

Katie: Crimson and Clover by

Joan Jet in the Black Arts.

935

That was quite a song.

936

The number eight song is Let It Whip

and the group is Daz, d a Z band.

937

I know the song, but I, the

group is unfamiliar to me,

938

Zo Richardson: right?

939

Right.

940

Is that the one that's Let

it whip it good, whip it.

941

Good.

942

Is that it?

943

That's the only song that comes to mind.

944

Katie: Well I think that's,

I think that's right.

945

Hey guys.

946

It's Katie.

947

Pardon the interruption?

948

Uh, clearly we were wrong.

949

So I just thought that I

would have that in there.

950

Um, not at all the song we were thinking

of totally different, but still.

951

Recognizable the number nine

song, never heard of the group.

952

The group is called Juice Newton, or

maybe that's a person Never heard of that.

953

The, the song title is Love's

Been a Little bit hard on Me.

954

I feel like I know that

955

And then number 10 is The

Other Woman by Ray Parker Jr.

956

The only reason I know Ray Parker Jr.

957

Is because I think last episode

he's, he sings Ghostbusters.

958

Zo Richardson: Right.

959

That's the only reason I know him.

960

I don't know him from anything else.

961

Katie: my guest and I,

we thought it was a one.

962

He was a one hit wonder with Ghostbusters,

but I guess he, he broke the top 10 again

963

with the other woman, which I dunno.

964

But

965

Zo Richardson: Right, right.

966

That's the problem.

967

He nobody knows that one

968

or nobody really remembers.

969

He's not known for that

970

one.

971

You know, fame is a fickle

972

thing.

973

Katie: boy, isn't it?

974

So there are a few things that

were happening in the world.

975

June, 1982, general Efrain Rios Mont

probably pronouncing that horribly.

976

declares himself, president of Guatemala.

977

That sounds familiar.

978

Somebody just declaring

themself president, but

979

Zo Richardson: there's actually

a film about somebody like that.

980

we call him Napoleon, and

981

he declared himself president at once.

982

Have you seen the trailer for that?

983

Katie: I haven't is it's a

new, it hasn't come out yet.

984

Zo Richardson: No.

985

It hasn't come out yet.

986

It's a film by Ridley Scott.

987

It stars Jacques Wing Phoenix and

Jacques Wing Phoenix playing Napoleon.

988

Katie: That's gonna be

989

Zo Richardson: you get a chance, when

you get a chance, it's tantalizing.

990

So go watch that.

991

That trailer.

992

Katie: he's good.

993

he'll, anything he does is good.

994

So I'm gonna definitely check that out.

995

Argentina surrenders to Great

Britain ending the 74 day

996

Falcons Islands conflict.

997

I don't, I feel like I remember

hearing about that, but

998

yeah, that happened in June.

999

Zo Richardson: same.

00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:11,560

Heard about it That wasn't interested.

00:37:13,165 --> 00:37:15,175

Katie: This one you'll have heard about.

00:37:15,835 --> 00:37:19,895

you know, there was a, an attempted

assassination of President Ronald Reagan.

00:37:20,725 --> 00:37:21,015

Well,

00:37:21,155 --> 00:37:23,295

his would be assassin.

00:37:23,485 --> 00:37:24,295

John Hinkley.

00:37:24,885 --> 00:37:25,695

John Hinkley.

00:37:25,925 --> 00:37:29,535

He's found not guilty of that 81.

00:37:29,635 --> 00:37:30,615

So this is 82.

00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,215

He tried to shoot the president in 81.

00:37:34,245 --> 00:37:38,495

He's found not guilty

by reason of Insanity.

00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:43,075

So his trial, I, yeah, I

bet that was a big trial.

00:37:44,405 --> 00:37:46,165

Zo Richardson: I think

that he's actually insane.

00:37:46,405 --> 00:37:47,165

I probably heard about

00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:49,315

it at the time too,

but it's, I believe it.

00:37:49,345 --> 00:37:53,675

It's, but being found guilty by

reason of a sanity is actually

00:37:53,675 --> 00:37:55,915

worse than being just found guilty

00:37:56,175 --> 00:37:56,525

Katie: Right.

00:37:57,345 --> 00:37:59,545

Zo Richardson: because it's if

you're found not guilty by reason,

00:37:59,765 --> 00:38:01,705

ofs sanity, you still get locked up.

00:38:01,815 --> 00:38:06,555

It's just that you, ostensibly

you're locked up until you're cured,

00:38:06,555 --> 00:38:09,995

like you sent in for treatment,

but you might never be cured.

00:38:09,995 --> 00:38:13,115

They might never say that, okay,

you're cured now, and then when

00:38:13,115 --> 00:38:16,645

you get cured, then you can be

charged and held and you can

00:38:16,645 --> 00:38:17,605

be given another trial.

00:38:18,025 --> 00:38:18,605

Katie: That's right.

00:38:19,475 --> 00:38:19,765

Yeah.

00:38:19,865 --> 00:38:23,175

Zo Richardson: But, the problem

is being found, of sound bind and

00:38:23,175 --> 00:38:25,215

body like being declared sane.

00:38:25,565 --> 00:38:28,255

Once you're committed in the

institution, that might never happen.

00:38:28,605 --> 00:38:29,665

So you're just stuck there.

00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:30,575

Katie: indefinitely.

00:38:30,755 --> 00:38:31,595

Zo Richardson: there, right?

00:38:31,595 --> 00:38:32,235

Indefinitely.

00:38:32,455 --> 00:38:35,355

So that's the problem with

being declared not guilty

00:38:35,615 --> 00:38:36,715

by reason of insanity,

00:38:36,955 --> 00:38:37,525

Katie: Good point.

00:38:37,705 --> 00:38:38,525

Really good point.

00:38:39,225 --> 00:38:41,845

the fourth NASA space shuttle,

miss Mission Columbia.

00:38:42,035 --> 00:38:45,765

Four launches that maybe

was like a lesser known one.

00:38:46,345 --> 00:38:52,515

baby William of Prince Charles and

Diana Princess of Wales is born.

00:38:53,135 --> 00:38:54,715

so I am older than William.

00:38:55,235 --> 00:38:57,315

I don't think I realized

that he was born in 82

00:38:58,975 --> 00:38:59,325

Zo Richardson: right.

00:38:59,775 --> 00:39:03,235

Katie: he maybe looks older 'cause

he is got the receding hairline.

00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:03,915

Poor William.

00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,490

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:04,930

Yeah.

00:39:05,485 --> 00:39:07,665

Katie: And then some huge movie releases.

00:39:07,725 --> 00:39:12,865

So the thing in addition to the thing

in June, so it was number seven at the

00:39:12,865 --> 00:39:16,425

box office, some other big releases.

00:39:16,925 --> 00:39:22,005

a couple would be right up your alley et

one of the biggest movies of all time.

00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:25,760

Zo Richardson: Ah, it's one of the

few movies that I saw at the theater,

00:39:26,305 --> 00:39:26,685

Katie: Me too.

00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:27,790

Zo Richardson: and

00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:28,750

I was,

00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,080

Katie: re-released, I saw it

at the theater because didn't

00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,320

they have an anniversary, rele

00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:33,190

Zo Richardson: yeah.

00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:37,670

They did that before, ca before most

people had cable, so there were many

00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:39,510

movies that were constantly rereleased.

00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:41,190

So one of those was Enter the Dragon.

00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:43,110

Another one of those is Star Wars.

00:39:43,110 --> 00:39:43,350

Another

00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:46,350

one of those is ET but I am, I saw it.

00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:48,790

Yeah, I saw it when it first came

out, at least around that time.

00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:49,390

I saw it in

00:39:49,710 --> 00:39:50,110

00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:51,640

Katie: You were, must

have been really little.

00:39:52,060 --> 00:39:52,280

You

00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:53,430

Zo Richardson: yeah.

00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:54,400

10 or 12.

00:39:54,990 --> 00:39:55,280

What?

00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,080

1982 takeaway, 1971,

00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,520

whatever that answer is,

00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:02,770

Katie: got it.

00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:05,670

Zo Richardson: yeah, that.

00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:09,530

but yeah, I remember that's one of the

few movies that, my mom took us to see.

00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:14,230

And, I remember being late

because she's permanently on

00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:16,190

black people time, so I never

00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:17,050

Katie: I would've been pissed

00:40:17,050 --> 00:40:17,410

though.

00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:18,250

I.

00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:18,930

don't wanna be late

00:40:18,990 --> 00:40:19,210

for

00:40:19,535 --> 00:40:20,735

Zo Richardson: didn't, well see.

00:40:20,765 --> 00:40:23,815

It's not, it's, it wasn't

something like not, I was

00:40:23,815 --> 00:40:24,975

anticipating going to the movies.

00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:27,615

I don't think I had any

idea of what I was going to

00:40:27,615 --> 00:40:27,775

see.

00:40:28,035 --> 00:40:30,855

It was just excitement of going to

the movies and then getting there.

00:40:31,035 --> 00:40:33,455

And the credits have already

passed, so you already know

00:40:33,455 --> 00:40:34,735

that you're late to the theater.

00:40:35,235 --> 00:40:39,015

But it's funny right, because it's,

I've never seen the beginning of et tea

00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:40,120

Katie: Oh my god.

00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:43,520

You know, actually your mom probably

planned that because if you're late,

00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,280

you don't have time to stop at the

snack bar, so that way you don't have

00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,240

to buy your kids snacks for the movie.

00:40:49,365 --> 00:40:50,455

Zo Richardson: Well,

she wasn't gonna do that

00:40:50,455 --> 00:40:50,775

anyway.

00:40:50,775 --> 00:40:54,215

It's not like she had tojo us or

Fool us or anything like that.

00:40:54,275 --> 00:40:56,655

It is, it's like we just

going in a movie to eat.

00:40:56,895 --> 00:40:59,535

I, and I'm not sure if,

if we had snacks or not.

00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:00,585

I don't remember eating popcorn.

00:41:00,785 --> 00:41:01,505

maybe we didn't.

00:41:01,505 --> 00:41:02,185

I don't remember.

00:41:02,205 --> 00:41:07,175

But I've cultivated a habit of not

eating popcorn in the theater because

00:41:07,315 --> 00:41:08,695

I'm kind of rebellious like that.

00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,240

Katie: I am, I'm one of

the, I'm glad, oh gosh.

00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:13,600

There's another one of us.

00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,760

I am not a popcorn person either.

00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:17,240

Like I,

00:41:17,885 --> 00:41:18,235

Zo Richardson: Right,

00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960

Katie: remember even when I did go

to the theater as a kid, I would

00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,360

get like milk duds or something,

00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:23,645

Zo Richardson: right.

00:41:23,875 --> 00:41:24,165

Yeah.

00:41:24,165 --> 00:41:27,385

The only time I would get like

popcorn or soda is that if I'm with

00:41:27,625 --> 00:41:28,825

somebody else, then they have to have

00:41:28,895 --> 00:41:29,945

popcorn or soda.

00:41:29,945 --> 00:41:31,625

So it's okay, I guess,

I guess we're getting

00:41:31,625 --> 00:41:35,385

popcorn and soda, but I try to avoid

it, especially if I'm going into theater

00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:37,055

by myself, then I don't touch the stuff

00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:41,460

Katie: I don't, . better not to,

I think the movie Popcorn, that

00:41:41,780 --> 00:41:44,660

whatever the butter business they

put on it, it can't be good for you.

00:41:46,395 --> 00:41:48,015

Zo Richardson: No, none

of that is, but it's good.

00:41:48,215 --> 00:41:49,205

I mean, it's delicious.

00:41:49,265 --> 00:41:50,025

it's passable.

00:41:50,465 --> 00:41:53,145

I can eat it, but I'm not

go, if I can help it, I

00:41:53,145 --> 00:41:55,815

don't .It's like I'm

offended by the pricing

00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:57,890

Katie: Oh, right.

00:41:59,353 --> 00:42:01,173

You can always sneak your own snacks in.

00:42:01,865 --> 00:42:02,565

Zo Richardson: you could do that.

00:42:02,625 --> 00:42:07,455

But it's I just, it seems to me like my

logic has always been that if I can go

00:42:07,455 --> 00:42:11,455

there and pay like a reasonable price for

fast food or whatever, or if I can eat at

00:42:11,455 --> 00:42:15,415

home before I go to the movie theaters,

I can not eat for two hours and be fine.

00:42:15,625 --> 00:42:15,975

Right.

00:42:16,845 --> 00:42:17,135

Katie: Yeah.

00:42:17,185 --> 00:42:18,185

you're not gonna die.

00:42:18,385 --> 00:42:19,145

I know, but

00:42:19,165 --> 00:42:20,155

Zo Richardson: Right, right, right.

00:42:20,245 --> 00:42:21,065

Katie: for a lot of people.

00:42:21,135 --> 00:42:22,665

It's kind of part of the experience.

00:42:22,765 --> 00:42:23,305

I'm with you.

00:42:23,485 --> 00:42:24,785

So I don't need it.

00:42:25,325 --> 00:42:28,865

But what's becoming more popular,

and I obviously like movies

00:42:29,005 --> 00:42:32,905

now are way different, and I

go to movies so infrequently.

00:42:32,905 --> 00:42:35,185

it's probably, it's been

over a year, probably since

00:42:35,215 --> 00:42:36,625

I've been to a movie theater.

00:42:37,285 --> 00:42:41,785

But I like the Cides now because

you can order a meal and it's

00:42:41,785 --> 00:42:43,225

like regular restaurant pricing.

00:42:43,405 --> 00:42:43,745

You know,

00:42:43,975 --> 00:42:44,265

Zo Richardson: yeah.

00:42:44,315 --> 00:42:47,215

Katie: you can order a meal or a

beer, like I'll do a beer or a glass

00:42:47,215 --> 00:42:48,415

of wine, like that's more my jam.

00:42:48,415 --> 00:42:52,815

And it's not like, it's not

like $40 for a glass of wine.

00:42:52,885 --> 00:42:53,575

It's like a regular,

00:42:53,915 --> 00:42:55,385

Zo Richardson: Right, right, right, right.

00:42:55,455 --> 00:42:56,855

Katie: pay at a restaurant normally.

00:42:57,355 --> 00:42:58,255

So I kinda like that.

00:42:59,295 --> 00:42:59,585

Zo Richardson: Yeah.

00:42:59,585 --> 00:43:00,805

I've been to one, I don't.

00:43:01,515 --> 00:43:02,955

I think it was like an A M

C or something like that.

00:43:02,955 --> 00:43:05,355

But I went to a theater like

that serves you after you order.

00:43:06,035 --> 00:43:07,395

'cause I went and I ordered food.

00:43:07,395 --> 00:43:08,635

It was like, oh yeah, just go inside.

00:43:08,685 --> 00:43:09,285

we'll bring it to you.

00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:10,395

I was like, oh, it's like that.

00:43:10,395 --> 00:43:11,075

That's nice.

00:43:11,695 --> 00:43:11,985

Katie: Yeah,

00:43:12,655 --> 00:43:12,875

Zo Richardson: and

00:43:12,945 --> 00:43:13,105

Katie: is.

00:43:13,975 --> 00:43:15,435

Zo Richardson: So it,

it is nice to do that.

00:43:15,575 --> 00:43:18,655

I just, I actually just went to

the theater a couple of times,

00:43:19,435 --> 00:43:23,745

so a few weeks ago I went to see,

into the Spider Verse, I think it

00:43:23,745 --> 00:43:23,865

was.

00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:27,615

And then I think I, no, it's

crossed the spider verse.

00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:31,105

So I saw that in the theater

and I'm fuzzy on the details.

00:43:31,105 --> 00:43:34,545

If I seen anything else between

that and the movie that I just saw

00:43:34,975 --> 00:43:36,865

last week, I saw a Man on fire.

00:43:37,045 --> 00:43:38,865

No, that's, I'm getting my moves mixed up.

00:43:39,065 --> 00:43:41,745

I saw Equalizer three

completely different movie

00:43:43,965 --> 00:43:46,295

Katie: Wait, is Denzel Washington in that

00:43:47,255 --> 00:43:47,795

Zo Richardson: Yes, it is

00:43:47,995 --> 00:43:48,515

Denzel Washington.

00:43:48,585 --> 00:43:50,675

Equalizer three is a third in the series.

00:43:51,175 --> 00:43:55,275

He plays, uh, a badass

assassin and he kills people.

00:43:55,775 --> 00:43:58,635

And just, you can't

ask for more than that.

00:44:00,035 --> 00:44:00,535

Katie: that's true.

00:44:00,775 --> 00:44:04,495

I, to be honest with you, didn't know

there was an equalizer two , so I

00:44:04,675 --> 00:44:05,025

three.

00:44:06,125 --> 00:44:06,415

Zo Richardson: yeah.

00:44:06,415 --> 00:44:07,255

Equalizer two.

00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:10,935

Not, I didn't enjoy that quite

as much as Equalizer one.

00:44:10,935 --> 00:44:12,055

Equalizer one is great.

00:44:12,405 --> 00:44:17,015

Equalizer two is just like mid,

or probably even less than mid.

00:44:17,315 --> 00:44:19,615

And then Equalizer three probably mixed.

00:44:19,855 --> 00:44:19,975

I

00:44:19,975 --> 00:44:21,895

just listened to this podcast there.

00:44:21,895 --> 00:44:24,375

There's a podcast called Watch Skip Plus.

00:44:25,305 --> 00:44:25,595

Katie: okay.

00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:27,125

Zo Richardson: they didn't truly enjoy it.

00:44:27,125 --> 00:44:28,485

They didn't like it as much.

00:44:28,485 --> 00:44:29,485

they were kind of disappointed.

00:44:29,485 --> 00:44:32,445

They thought that it wasn't

even as good as Equalizer two.

00:44:32,865 --> 00:44:34,645

But I felt differently.

00:44:34,885 --> 00:44:39,125

I truly enjoyed Equalizer three, and

I don't know why my perspective is

00:44:39,125 --> 00:44:42,805

different from theirs, but I, me and

Zach, we enjoyed ourselves there.

00:44:42,805 --> 00:44:43,295

Katie: Well good.

00:44:43,875 --> 00:44:47,935

I'm good for you for going to the

theater lately to support the arts.

00:44:48,455 --> 00:44:48,945

Zo Richardson: enjoyed.

00:44:49,435 --> 00:44:50,465

Right, right, right.

00:44:50,905 --> 00:44:52,545

I just liked the experience

inside the theater.

00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:53,260

Katie: yeah.

00:44:53,530 --> 00:44:53,820

Yeah.

00:44:55,420 --> 00:44:56,270

star Trek two.

00:44:56,370 --> 00:44:57,190

The Wrath of Con.

00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:58,150

Did you see that movie?

00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:59,030

I bet you did.

00:44:59,275 --> 00:45:01,055

Zo Richardson: Oh yeah,

that's exactly one.

00:45:01,155 --> 00:45:03,815

That's another one of the movies

that my parents took us to.

00:45:04,115 --> 00:45:07,865

And that was one, it was one

of the most impactful movies

00:45:08,025 --> 00:45:09,985

I saw, especially at that age.

00:45:10,345 --> 00:45:15,165

I remember there was a moment in a movie

and, I started tearing up and my mom

00:45:15,165 --> 00:45:16,565

leaned up and was like, are you okay?

00:45:16,825 --> 00:45:18,165

And I was like, yeah,

00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:23,450

Katie: Aw, I have not seen that.

00:45:23,950 --> 00:45:24,490

but I would

00:45:24,635 --> 00:45:25,035

Zo Richardson: my God.