"You don't chase your fears, you ride them"; Never has a movie quote taken on a whole new meaning in it's proper context. We watched TWISTERS this week! Join us for our opinions on this "lega-sequel" and if it's better or worse than the original. Stick around after our review as we all share our TOP 5 FAVORITE Disaster Films.
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Nathan:I am Nathan Shurer and accompanying me.
Nathan:Are my extraordinary movie mavens, Brianna Butterworth and Sam Cole.
Nathan:Welcome to the show.
Nathan:I'm doing well.
Nathan:We just saw each other, Sam.
Nathan:You were in my studio.
Nathan:That's true.
Nathan:It seems like.
Sam:That is very true.
Sam:Moments ago in the, in the long path of time, it was, was but a moment.
Nathan:We we, so we are here.
Nathan:I don't have a question this week because we are on our, I would
Nathan:call it like our summer schedule.
Nathan:I, I had to turn this episode around really fast because two days ago we,
Nathan:we recorded our, our Twister episode.
Nathan:Later that night, we went out and saw this movie that we're
Nathan:talking about today, Twisters.
Nathan:So this is quite an exhausting schedule.
Nathan:So it's worth it.
Nathan:I hope everyone out there really appreciates what we do for them.
Nathan:You know, we are laying it out on the line here for you, the
Nathan:people, the movie fanatics that
Bee:it's a hard life to go see movies.
Bee:It is, you know, you
Sam:could you could refer to it as a whirlwind schedule.
Nathan:I'm sorry, everyone,
Nathan:but yeah, so we watched twisters this past weekend in IMAX.
Nathan:We could like feel those tornadoes like in our laps,
Nathan:but I'm excited to talk about this movie with you before we do.
Nathan:I have a plot synopsis.
Nathan:A trailer for this movie, if I can find it here.
Nathan:Here's why.
Nathan:Plot Synopi
Nathan:haunted by the devastating encounter with a tornado.
Nathan:Kate Cooper gets lured back to the open planes by her friend Javi to test
Nathan:a groundbreaking new tracking system.
Nathan:She soon crosses paths with Tyler Owens, a charming but reckless
Nathan:social media superstar who thrives on posting his storm chasing adventures.
Nathan:As storm season intensifies, Kate, Tyler, and their competing teams find themselves
Nathan:in a fight for their lives as multiple systems converge over central Oklahoma.
Bee:Dun dun dun!
Nathan:And here is a little bit of the trailer for Twisters.
Nathan:Guys, whatever's in there, it's big and it's moving fast.
Nathan:Drive!
Trailer:Go!
Trailer:Guys, we gotta get out of here!
Trailer:Twisters!
Trailer:It's Tyler Owens.
Trailer:Calls himself the
Nathan:Tornado Wrangler.
Trailer:If you feel it, TRACE IT!
Trailer:Trace that!
Trailer:I said, if you feel it, TRACE IT!
Trailer:Oh, she's perfect!
Trailer:She's gorgeous!
Sam:You thought you could destroy a tornado.
Trailer:We never had a chance.
Sam:You want one?
Sam:You don't face your fears,
Nathan:you ride em.
Nathan:You ride em.
Bee:Amazing.
Nathan:So, there you have it.
Nathan:We are gonna get a little bit of the movie facts.
Nathan:Perhaps.
Nathan:Sam, do you have some movie facts for us?
Sam:Indeed, I do.
Nathan:I know we did not have a lot of time to put, nobody had time to prep for
Nathan:this episode because we just, we just, it feels like we just got out of the theater.
Sam:We did just recently get out of the theater, but I do
Sam:have some movie facts here.
Trailer:Yeah.
Sam:Twisters is a 2024 American disaster film directed by Lee Isaac Chung.
Sam:From a screenplay by Mark L.
Sam:Smith based on a story by Joseph Kaczynski, serving as a
Sam:standalone sequel to Twister.
Sam:The 1996 film, sorry the film, it's hilarious because it's a sequel.
Sam:The film stars Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell, Anthony Ramos, Brendan
Sam:Pereira, Maura Tierney and Sasha Lane.
Sam:And this was directed by Lee Isaac Chung, who I believe is from Arkansas.
Sam:So is no stranger to the type of landscape present in the film screenplay by Mark L.
Sam:Smith.
Sam:It's cinematography was actually by Dan Mendel, who was the he's a veteran in the
Nathan:industry.
Nathan:Yeah.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Right.
Sam:Right.
Sam:Comes to mind immediately.
Sam:J.
Sam:J.
Sam:Abrams, both the force awakens and the rise of Skywalker.
Sam:Did a lot of Tony Scott
Nathan:films.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:I'm
Sam:sorry.
Sam:Go ahead.
Sam:No.
Sam:And so it it came out cinema world, Lester square, July 8th, 2024, and July 19th,
Sam:2024 in the United States and had a very successful above industry expectations,
Sam:opening weekend, domestic 80 million.
Sam:But Budget was 155 to 200 million and box office so far at present is 124 million
Sam:and that's worldwide in its first weekend.
Sam:So it is doing well.
Sam:I know this was shot in Oklahoma, I believe introducing a new
Sam:generation of storm chasers.
Sam:It is not really connected to the first movie in characters.
Sam:It's just its own like standalone film in the same twisters universe 30 years later.
Sam:But yeah, if anything to add to that or thoughts or,
Nathan:Not really.
Nathan:I mean, I just was looking at the overall cast here.
Nathan:We talked about you know, Lee, Lee, Isaac Chung, you know, it
Nathan:seems like an interesting choice.
Nathan:I know he did the, a movie that kind of put them on the map on in 2020 Minari.
Nathan:I have not seen it, but after this, I kind of want to see it really soon.
Nathan:As in, I
Sam:haven't seen it.
Sam:I would like to see it.
Sam:Haven't seen it.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:It got,
Bee:this is the kind of movie.
Bee:Yeah, it got great reviews.
Bee:But Twisters, I think is the kind of movie that can like set up your career.
Bee:So it feels like a weird move, but I also think this might be the kind of movie that
Bee:just now he makes movies like Twisters.
Bee:Now he makes movie star vehicles.
Sam:He might.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:You know, what's interesting is the principal photography for budgetary
Sam:reasons was actually supposed to start outside Atlanta, Georgia, but
Sam:instead they commenced in May, 2023 in Oklahoma, where the story takes place.
Sam:Thank.
Sam:God, they did that because I don't think Atlanta, Georgia would, could
Sam:do the backdrop of Oklahoma justice.
Sam:There's space and fields, but it would, there'd be a different feel to it.
Sam:So that was a good move.
Nathan:I want to also, you mentioned some of the cast that was in this
Nathan:Daisy Daisy Edgar Jones, who I really was not familiar with before this.
Nathan:I, I have heard about where the crawdad sing.
Nathan:I have heard nothing but horrible things about things about it.
Nathan:And it's one of those movies that my, that my wife says, can we sit
Nathan:down and watch this movie some night?
Nathan:Mike?
Nathan:No.
Nathan:So maybe I have, I've not seen it.
Nathan:So I should not pass judgment.
Sam:I think that movie to make it better should have like an
Sam:opening James Bond style song where it's like the James Bond visuals.
Sam:Like what's the name of it?
Sam:Where the crow dads sing.
Trailer:It's just
Sam:like where the crowd and sing.
Sam:Then it would be, that would help the film.
Nathan:And there's some interesting star power in, in character.
Nathan:I mean, of course, Glenn Powell, who, you know, is automatic a list
Nathan:right now, but, you know, of course.
Nathan:More tyranny who, you know, we just saw her.
Nathan:I totally forgot.
Nathan:We just saw her in insomnia a couple months ago.
Nathan:She was in that.
Nathan:And of course in the iron claw saw a couple months ago as well.
Nathan:Had a long career on ER for a while in news radio, but the, the cast that's on
Nathan:in these tornado crews is fascinating.
Nathan:Of course, Anthony Ramos, famous for Hamilton in the Heights dumb money.
Nathan:No, we got some also great, you know, we had, you know, what's in this, the new
Nathan:Superman, I didn't even recognize him.
Nathan:I was going through the cast afterwards.
Nathan:You got David Coren sweat playing Scott, who was hobby's
Nathan:business partner, unrecognizable.
Nathan:And, but you just look at that jawline and you know why he's cast a Superman.
Nathan:So it's, it's, it is really interesting casting.
Nathan:She'll
Bee:lean too.
Bee:She's great.
Bee:It was great to see her and all her drone action.
Nathan:You've got was it a Tundi, Adam Impey, who is the lead singer of
Nathan:TV on the radio in this as well, which is just fascinating casting and Katie
Nathan:O'Brien, who is in my still my favorite movie of the year, Love, Lies, Bleeding,
Nathan:she plays Danny, who's the mechanic on Tyler's crew and one other casting
Nathan:note, one of Katie's original crew members is Kiernan Shipka, who I can't
Nathan:wait for her career to really explode.
Nathan:She's all grown up.
Nathan:She is Sally Draper from Mad Men.
Nathan:And she was in a movie.
Nathan:I really enjoyed.
Nathan:I think at the end of last year, I it was, it was a horror time travel movie.
Nathan:I'm blanking on it right now, but if you look up totally
Bee:killer, totally killer.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:I really liked her and totally killer.
Nathan:So I'm going to see
Bee:long legs this week.
Bee:She's in long legs.
Bee:So for that, yeah.
Nathan:So great cast all around, right up and down the whole line
Nathan:of card for, for this movie, but yeah, that's what I wanted to say.
Bee:Awesome.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:I don't have any, really any other Notes or trivia from this.
Nathan:It's too fresh to me.
Nathan:I haven't really had time to do that kind of deep dive into this.
Nathan:I watched a little bit of the behind the scenes making of this, but nothing
Nathan:too deep, but I guess we can kind of get into our thoughts on this.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Are we ready
Nathan:for
Sam:that?
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Twist one quick thing.
Sam:Twisters is actually shot on 35 millimeter film, which is pretty cool.
Sam:Nice.
Sam:After receiving support from Spielberg and Mendel with the Panavision XL
Sam:cameras and handheld, RE 435S and 235S.
Sam:Interesting.
Bee:Great.
Bee:I don't know that it looks like it.
Sam:I don't know.
Sam:I couldn't tell if it looks like it or if that's the resolution
Sam:at the IMAX that we were at.
Sam:I was mentioning in the earlier words, the screen is like, maybe though.
Sam:I don't know.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:Well did I say I, I am going first already.
Nathan:All
Bee:right.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:Here we go.
Nathan:So,
Nathan:so last week I sat in this chair to the people that listened to this,
Nathan:at least it was only a few days ago for us, but last week I sat in this
Nathan:chair and I listed off several of my issues with the 1996 film Twister.
Nathan:By the way, a film that I enjoy but don't love, and I talked about one,
Nathan:one, you know, uncharismatic leading male in that movie, and two, too
Nathan:many side background characters.
Nathan:Three, paper thin character development, especially with the Paxton character
Nathan:and the antagonist Jonas Miller.
Nathan:And four, I didn't feel like the imminent danger with the tornadoes, it was
Nathan:inconsistent and also very unrealistic.
Nathan:And I'm here to say that Twisters fixes every one of those problems for me.
Nathan:This is one of the best action films for me that I've seen in a long time because,
Nathan:you know, it hits so many quadrants.
Nathan:Number one, you like hot guys, check.
Nathan:You like hot women?
Nathan:Check.
Nathan:You like action?
Nathan:Check.
Nathan:You like romance?
Nathan:Check it reaches both YouTube audience in the country music, music audience.
Nathan:Check you like sharp, really reaches the country music on you.
Nathan:You like sharp, funny dialogues, you know, by wildly outrageous character
Nathan:actors, check plus they brought in a more, a more diverse cast that didn't
Nathan:seem forced setting and they set it in America's heartland, including
Nathan:the lead singer of alternative rock band TV and the radio check.
Nathan:Also.
Nathan:Where Twister, you know, I thought was both a dark and dour film and look and
Nathan:in tone, twisters is bright and upbeat, and even with the harrowing deaths.
Nathan:In the beginning, spoiler, you know, we should mention
Nathan:that we are a spoiler podcast.
Nathan:This film is fun with a kinetic energy throughout.
Nathan:It is so perfectly assembled and I'm certain it was produced
Nathan:by AI just analyzing algorithms for the entire country.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:I loved this movie.
Nathan:And not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it.
Nathan:I think Glenn Powell is now a full fledged A lister.
Nathan:He nailed this role in this movie.
Nathan:The chemistry of the three leads I think is great.
Nathan:I was unfamiliar with Daisy Edgar Jones before this, but
Nathan:I thought she did a great job.
Nathan:Anthony Ramos as well in this.
Nathan:The three leads are all carrying this buried down trauma that I thought
Nathan:was portrayed very well as well.
Nathan:I like that the film uses our knowledge of the previous films, but in our expectation
Nathan:of it, but it uses it against us.
Nathan:You've got these rival storm chasers, the corporate funded group, and the
Nathan:wild hell raising hippies, which is very much like the first film.
Nathan:So the iconography is similar in this film and we begin to assign expectations
Nathan:to the characters like this is going to be the Bill Paxton person, this
Nathan:is going to be the Helen Hunt person.
Nathan:This is going to be the Philip Seymour Hoffman person.
Nathan:And so on.
Nathan:These are the good guys.
Nathan:These are the obnoxious douchey ones, but then the film does something completely
Nathan:different and turns everything on its head halfway, which I did not expect.
Nathan:I also went in with some concerns because the original Twister, you
Nathan:know, story beats I, I was worried it was going to start duplicating that.
Nathan:And this may would try to be like a direct sequel where Helen Hunn and Bill
Nathan:Paxton's kids, we're, we're there, we're going to follow them in the Twister
Nathan:was gonna like try to seek revenge.
Nathan:We're gonna be in like a Jaws, the revenge territory.
Nathan:Maybe the Twister was gonna follow Kate up to New York and
Nathan:try to chase her down there.
Nathan:Something really stupid.
Nathan:I'm glad I did not do that.
Nathan:I don't know, but even though You know, I, I did have some problems with the last
Nathan:15 minutes of this movie and it, it didn't fully stick the landing at the very end.
Nathan:It gets a little ridiculous, but it did not hurt enough.
Nathan:Were this, were enough for me to, to, to not love this film, but it didn't,
Nathan:but anyways, that that's all I have to say, but I think this is a perfect.
Nathan:Summer blockbuster.
Nathan:This is exactly what I wanted this summer.
Nathan:I, there's, that's all I have to say.
Nathan:So this is a, I would give this a 4.
Nathan:5.
Bee:Wow.
Nathan:That's my rating.
Nathan:So, there you go.
Nathan:I, I've gushed enough.
Bee:That's amazing.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:I gotta follow that, huh?
Bee:Mm hmm.
Bee:Okay.
Bee:I really liked this movie.
Bee:I don't think I loved it as much as you love it, but I had a great time.
Bee:As you all know, I have been eagerly anticipating this movie.
Bee:The trailer got me hype and.
Bee:I'm a recent convert to the original Twister film.
Bee:I hadn't seen it until just a few months ago.
Bee:I watched it.
Bee:I fell in love with it.
Bee:I had zero expectations of the movie.
Bee:And it came, comes out as like, one of my top movies.
Bee:It's a four and a half for me.
Bee:Huge fan.
Bee:I think it's magic and it, it hits all the right beats.
Bee:Twisters.
Bee:2024 is a very competent movie.
Bee:You are right.
Bee:It's the perfect summer blockbuster.
Bee:It doesn't do anything wrong.
Bee:I also don't think it takes any chances.
Bee:It has some interesting subversions of our expectations, but I think they
Bee:almost do that so that they don't get criticized with being a copy
Bee:and paste of the original 90s film.
Bee:Because otherwise it's, it's very similar.
Bee:The original twister.
Bee:Felt new.
Bee:It felt like they were trying different things with the love triangle with the
Bee:practical effects, which of course, you know, I sort of gushed over the
Bee:practical effects in our last episode.
Bee:I know there's also an ass load of CGI in these movies, but they're
Bee:blended a little more beautifully for me in the last film and our
Bee:CGI has come a long way since then.
Bee:And these twisters look very good.
Bee:But I just think in its It's aimed to be so perfect it, it
Bee:really doesn't take any leaps.
Bee:And I found the whole thing falling a little bit flat for me.
Bee:There are two things that I'm pretty bored with in the movies at this point.
Bee:One are gigantic CGI town crushing set pieces.
Bee:In the original Twister, everyone that falls victim to a tornado, we
Bee:know we have an attachment to them.
Bee:We have seen how many cities wiped out in the last 10 years and rebuilt and wiped
Bee:out again and rebuilt and wiped out again.
Bee:The final set piece just really didn't do it for me here.
Bee:And then the other issue I have with this movie and the thing that I'm
Bee:just bored with in movies in general, we see it a lot in the horror genre
Bee:right now, this is coming up a lot.
Bee:Our internal trauma as the antagonist.
Bee:This is the thing that our characters, they always have
Bee:to fight their own trauma.
Bee:And that is the catalyst for any plot direction or movement in the story.
Bee:And that does just suck out some joy you know, and, and some passion for it.
Bee:And granted that.
Bee:Definitely exists in the original Twister.
Bee:You know, Joe's family was literally ripped apart by a tornado, but it just
Bee:felt like the motivations were a little bit different or addressed a little bit
Bee:earlier on and, and definitely didn't play as much of a role for as many of
Bee:the characters in Twister as it does now.
Bee:So.
Bee:It fell a little flat.
Bee:I thought it was really enjoyable.
Bee:It is a perfect popcorn movie.
Bee:I can sit there, have a great time.
Bee:Glenn Powell looks amazing on screen.
Bee:Daisy Edgar Jones, they had incredible chemistry.
Bee:It was way more diverse.
Bee:The casting I thought was, even though there's great casting in
Bee:Twister, I did think this was better.
Bee:Better, more robust, more well rounded and the characters really
Bee:felt like they had a purpose.
Bee:They didn't just feel like the actors who happened to give them
Bee:a little bit more dimension.
Bee:It felt like that was intentional and fleshed out in the
Bee:script, which I really liked.
Bee:It was funny.
Bee:It could be really funny.
Bee:It was a little too patriotic for me, but it did take place in Oklahoma, so
Bee:it's hard to, to knock it down for that.
Bee:You know it wasn't steak and eggs.
Bee:It was a rodeo.
Bee:Okay.
Bee:Okay.
Bee:But yeah, I liked it.
Bee:I don't want to sound too cool on it.
Bee:I definitely had a really enjoyable time.
Bee:It just felt like another action blockbuster for me.
Bee:It's okay.
Bee:I give it like a three and a half.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:Good take.
Bee:Is it?
Bee:I don't know.
Sam:So, I think you guys both have really good points and I, it's, it's interesting
Sam:cause, cause one aspect that I agree with Nathan is, is I do feel that surprisingly
Sam:the characters and their, you know, dialogue and the chemistry Between the two
Sam:of them was really, really, really good.
Sam:I thought they, I thought the human element was strong.
Sam:And the human element and the characters and their interaction was oddly enough,
Sam:interesting left the best part of this film, whereas I felt the action and the
Sam:twisters themselves and the set pieces, I definitely agree with B that it was more
Sam:sort of standard CGI fully competent, but I did not have a sense of with, I
Sam:will say there is an, is, and it's an opening scene where a massive twister
Sam:is hidden by the fog and the wind.
Sam:And I thought that was suspenseful and well done in general, I feel sort of like
Sam:the set pieces in this film are solid, but they're more Sort of perfunctory.
Sam:I see the thing for me is I love the 1996 Twister and I actually
Sam:really like Bill Paxton in it.
Sam:I think he's like perfect for that movie.
Sam:I just, he just fits like I'm a Bill Paxton fan.
Sam:So I'll say that Yeah, so Lee Isaac Chung does a great job with
Sam:characters and their chemistry.
Sam:The human side of this film is surprisingly developed.
Sam:When it comes to the action, he is more than competent, yet it is perfunctory and
Sam:random, set pieces just arriving here and there, scattershot, seemingly on a whim.
Sam:The first film, the original Twister, Twister, excuse me, opens with this
Sam:terrific menacing music by Mark Mancista and the Twister logo tumbles across
Sam:the dark screen as the individual letters are blown about in a dark wind.
Sam:And this is the opening.
Sam:Opening title of the first film.
Sam:The new film opens more like a TV movie where the title twisters just
Sam:appears at an inopportune moment, appearing over a simple shot of our
Sam:main character standing in a field.
Sam:It has this moments and is perhaps worth a second viewing building up suspense
Sam:and milking moments for me did not.
Sam:quite feel like this director's forte.
Sam:I feel like he had a really good handle on the human elements, but I
Sam:feel like the scale, I did not feel like I have been to Oklahoma and it
Sam:is a huge place with vast open skies.
Sam:And you feel like you're exposed to the sky.
Sam:And I feel like that sense of the landscape in the first film, in Yon De
Sam:Bah, there's these wide shots of like we push in on Helen Hunt and build.
Sam:Paxton arguing in a truck and a plane goes by and it's this
Sam:massive wide coordinated shot.
Sam:There's this spectacular photography on the first film and this like, and the
Sam:cinematography in the first movie I love.
Sam:Whereas the second movie does a good job and the special effects look realistic.
Sam:But I, it's funny in this day and age, we now have access to all these like 1996
Sam:original are just somehow more Awesome.
Sam:I have a personal bias because that, that movie, when it came out, you bring
Sam:a good point B about the special effects.
Sam:We'd never seen anything like that in 1996.
Sam:Like I remember just being blown away and this movie is good, but
Sam:it comes out in a time where.
Sam:We've seen massive destruction on an epic scale over and over and over again.
Sam:And what was missing in this film, in the first film, the tornadoes were like
Sam:characters like the shark and jaws.
Sam:It was like hinted that there's this godly menacing presence in the sky.
Sam:And in this movie, they were just weather, which they are, but a little
Sam:bit of that epicness I felt was missing, but overall I enjoyed it.
Sam:I thought Glenn Powell was excellent.
Sam:I, I mean, I liked everyone in the film.
Sam:And I would, I mean, I would give it a solid, like it's, it's not bad.
Sam:It's not great.
Sam:I put it right in the middle at three stars.
Nathan:This is interesting because I was the, the biggest critic of the first
Nathan:film and the most skeptical heading in and I ended up loving it the most.
Nathan:It sounds like I
Sam:love that first film.
Sam:I have a real thing.
Sam:I just, that experience was amazing.
Sam:I hear you though.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:I think this sort of comes down to how much of a.
Bee:At least for me, like, I'm such a sucker for that Spielberg ian kind of, like,
Sam:Yes!
Bee:Sense of awe, sense of wonder, that, like, like, very childlike
Bee:perspective and, and hopeful storytelling.
Bee:It's a little soft.
Bee:It's, it's very, like, fairy tale esque.
Bee:Yes,
Sam:there's, like, wonder and terror and that, you know, like,
Sam:Aunt Meg is very Spielberg ian.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:It's got that, it has that energy.
Sam:This movie was like, I was, I liked the diverse cast and the new characters.
Sam:Like I liked the characters.
Sam:I just felt that the, the scale of the movie around them felt a little like
Sam:the mood, it felt a little shrunken.
Sam:Whereas I wanted to feel that grandiose feeling.
Nathan:I mean, I agree that some of that magic.
Nathan:That like touch Spielberg Magic is not, it's not in this, this is a much more like
Nathan:scientific, like I said, I really feel like AI algorithms designed this movie to
Nathan:please the most amount of people possible.
Nathan:It has that I hear that.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:That's a good deal.
Nathan:Totally.
Nathan:I hear that.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:, yeah, it worked for me, which is not.
Nathan:Typical.
Nathan:I, I don't usually.
Nathan:And I just feel
Sam:like even though, even though I, I totally agree, B, like I found the last
Sam:set piece very underwhelming except for some like visual, like cool moments.
Sam:But there were some in the middle, like there's when they're going through a
Sam:field and it's It's the what do you call it, the wind turbines and one of
Sam:them like flicks off and like hits you.
Sam:Yes.
Sam:That was kind of cool.
Sam:I like that stuff.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:I liked seeing inside the tornado.
Bee:That was somewhere we haven't been.
Bee:I thought that was an interesting experience.
Bee:It
Sam:is not without good intentions.
Sam:Action.
Sam:Like it's there.
Sam:It's good.
Sam:It's fine.
Sam:I'm just, I was not just
Bee:seen it before.
Sam:Yeah, exactly.
Sam:I just wasn't like wowed by it.
Sam:And I did love the cast.
Sam:And if, and if, if that script and that cast was married with like just
Sam:the, a more wowier scope for the action or the it's, it's what it is.
Sam:It's like, what's funny is the scale of twisters is huge.
Sam:I mean, like the tornado, like catches fire in like an oil refinery.
Sam:Like it's, it's insane.
Sam:You know what I mean?
Sam:But, but it's the way I feel like to me, what it was is a lot of set pieces
Sam:in this movie that throughout them, as they're occurring, they're great, but
Sam:I didn't feel the buildup of suspense.
Sam:Like in the first film, there's a scene where like Philip Seymour Hoffman
Sam:walks outside and then it cuts to some character dialogue in a bar and it cuts
Sam:back to Philip Seymour Hoffman and the sky is green And darn, he's like going
Sam:green and Bill Paxson is like greenage.
Sam:And it's like, you feel like, Oh, a tornado is coming.
Sam:Whereas this film, the tornadoes were spectacular.
Sam:The effects weren't bad, but, but the scenes would arrive more
Sam:perfunctory kind of like at the rodeo.
Sam:It's like, there's a simple blowing of wind and it just
Sam:starts, but I, I didn't feel like it could have been more suspense.
Sam:I feel like the suspense could have been more milked in this film.
Bee:I think, I think two, two things that sort of get to what you're talking
Bee:about, where my frustrations of the movie are one, any sort of like Spielberg
Bee:magic or magical realism, that feeling that happens in a movie of his, they
Bee:just put into Daisy Edgar Jones and made her like a Manic Pixie nightmare.
Bee:So I liked her character, but this whole like dandelion picking, I can
Bee:tell when tornadoes are like, all right.
Bee:And then the other thing is, I do think they sacrificed.
Bee:I don't know if you can see it, but there was a lot of back and forth between
Bee:how the main characters felt about tornadoes, like were they traumatized?
Bee:Were they just scared regular?
Bee:Scared because it's a scary thing.
Bee:Were they excited about it?
Bee:I felt like within one attack that would shift a lot.
Bee:And then there was a lot of back and forth, like it would start very
Bee:quickly and then they'd be safe, but then that same tornado, we'd be in the
Bee:same thing and it would scale up again and then they would be saved again.
Bee:And so it just felt like they sort of dragged on in this weird way.
Bee:So I just thought the movie had some pacing issues.
Bee:I
Sam:agree with what you're saying.
Sam:Like, I have a feeling that if I see it a second time, now that I know
Sam:what it is, I'll probably like it.
Sam:Enjoy it more.
Sam:Like it's, it's decent, but you have a good point where I've only seen
Sam:this once and I've seen twister, like 4, 000 times in the theater, like on
Sam:cable over the past 20 years, like that movie is always on TV, so I've
Sam:seen it like a billion times, but you talk about the pacing, how this movie,
Sam:like, I did feel like the pacing would just kind of stop and be sort of slow.
Sam:Whereas twister, I always felt the move, the whole movie is like on the move.
Sam:It's like, they're on the road.
Sam:The plot as cheesy as it is, like the screwball romantic comedy, it
Sam:all unfolds while they're driving.
Sam:Like they're constantly on the move.
Sam:Like Twister has forward motion to it.
Sam:Whereas this is like, all right, we're going to have an action scene and now
Sam:we're going to do this and we're going to do that and whatever, you know,
Sam:like it's, it's a more leisurely pace.
Sam:It felt like, I think the
Nathan:action scenes were.
Nathan:in this.
Nathan:I think I liked the, how the, the, the tornadoes and the, the
Nathan:people are interacting with us.
Nathan:That opening scene, I was, I was opening, it was riveting.
Nathan:I mean,
Nathan:they're going into that tornado blind and that's how I would expect.
Nathan:It would be like going into a tornado where they can't see where they're going.
Nathan:Things are hitting their car, causing real damage.
Nathan:And there are stakes to this.
Nathan:There's consequences to their hubris.
Nathan:And I love how this goes out.
Nathan:It fixes the problem where Everybody comes out alive,
Nathan:unscathed, not a scratch on them.
Nathan:And, and still, I think, I think the Daisy got out of this relatively unscathed with
Nathan:just a scratch on her leg in the end.
Nathan:But still, there are major consequences to, to what happened.
Nathan:She loses three members of her crew.
Nathan:And I love how this opens up.
Nathan:I wish the whole movie, I want a version of Twister where, where more people.
Nathan:Our diet.
Nathan:And I do like the fact that there are civilian casualties in this.
Nathan:We see it.
Nathan:We see, even though we don't know these people, we are seeing, you
Nathan:know, like the hotel manager or some of these other patrons come through.
Nathan:I love the fact that this movie takes the liberty of showing what
Nathan:happens to these stupid people that would drive, get in their car.
Nathan:Then they could thinking they can outrun the tornado.
Nathan:No get down flat.
Nathan:Doesn't mean you're going to survive, but it increases your chances.
Nathan:And it shows what happens when you don't listen to like the smarter people.
Nathan:The experts.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:The pool scene I thought was really good.
Bee:Those more intimate scenes I thought were so great.
Bee:The car, the opening, but that what you're talking about with civilians,
Bee:that pool scene, if it could have just been that the whole time, I
Bee:think I would have liked it more.
Bee:Several
Nathan:of those scenes, the pool scene, the opening scene I mean,
Sam:wait, what was the pool scene again?
Sam:I, I'm missing
Bee:the hotel where they go down into the the empty pool.
Bee:The person that is
Nathan:like complaining in the hotel is bill Paxton's son.
Bee:No way.
Bee:That's awesome.
Bee:Oh, that's really fun.
Nathan:Yes,
Nathan:By the way, so we're going to the pool.
Nathan:What pool has all these exposed pipes?
Nathan:I was trying to think, I don't know, a single in ground pool that's got
Nathan:all these pipes just lying around.
Nathan:Like, yeah, God, that would be dangerous, wouldn't it?
Sam:I will say that that opening set piece really was great, Nathan.
Sam:I agree with that.
Sam:I wish I like, like you were just saying, I wish the rest of the movie
Sam:maintained that, like, level of, of.
Sam:Intensity kind of because that that was really, really like the the
Sam:perspective of that and then as they like get the data, they find out that
Sam:like the column is like 70, 000 feet.
Sam:And once you hear the data feedback, you just realize even though you can't see it.
Nathan:There's like a monster behind us.
Nathan:How is that even possible?
Nathan:I was trying to This movie is big
Bee:though.
Bee:So, alright, few things to talk about that are outside of our review.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Can
Nathan:we
Bee:talk about the trucks in this movie?
Bee:Huh.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:What do we think?
Nathan:By the way, I, I, I intense, like crazy, like, yeah, I, I own a, a Jeep Wrangler
Nathan:and all I wanna do is just go offroading.
Nathan:I don't, I don't listen to country music.
Nathan:I don't like country music, but damn, I just wanna put, put, take all the
Nathan:windows out, take the doors off, and I'm gonna put it, I have a GoPro.
Nathan:I kind of wanna put it in my window and just like.
Nathan:Put on some sunglasses, just go off roading and start a YouTube channel.
Nathan:Like, I don't know what I'm chasing yet.
Nathan:I don't know what I'm chasing yet, but I'm going to stop and get
Nathan:a T bone and drink Coors Light.
Bee:You'd call us five weeks later in a Kenny Chesney t shirt.
Bee:I might.
Bee:Way to go.
Nathan:Back to the framerate.
Nathan:That would be a good YouTube channel.
Nathan:I want to see that.
Nathan:Just driving across the country at, to, just scoping out drive
Nathan:in theaters and hope, hope.
Nathan:So, Maybe a tornado will come through.
Bee:You both know that I live in a car culture household.
Bee:I also have a Jeep Wrangler, but mine's from the nineties.
Bee:Much like the better Twister movie.
Sam:So I'm just putting like hillbilly music as you're talking about trucks.
Sam:It's working.
Bee:It's working.
Sam:Yeehaw.
Sam:Okay.
Sam:Yeehaw, sorry.
Bee:But One thing this movie gets really right is what I affectionately
Bee:refer to as redneck tech.
Bee:You know, where they just put the biggest, loudest, fastest things on
Bee:the lightest frame they can and just see how fast and how far they can go.
Bee:I mean, rockets off the sides of this truck.
Bee:What?
Bee:The bolts that will just screw into the ground?
Bee:But that was really fun!
Bee:Like, that was really fun.
Bee:That was awesome,
Sam:because that had energy and innovation, like, when he And character!
Sam:And character.
Sam:When their team shows up, they add, like, a sugar jolt to the movie.
Sam:Yes.
Sam:I did like how they referenced the original Twister when he, like, pulls
Sam:out in front of them in traffic.
Sam:Because they did that in the previous movie.
Sam:And that had The good chaos energy to it.
Sam:One point about
Nathan:those drills.
Nathan:He's auguring into the earth when a tornado passes over.
Nathan:It is the dumbest thing ever.
Nathan:Because you're driving a tornado.
Nathan:Hopefully you don't go into some loose soil because you're dead.
Nathan:How does he know?
Nathan:He's Stopping right there, like drilling in.
Nathan:What if he hits like a giant rock?
Nathan:You're not going to survive, you know?
Bee:How does he even get close enough to get to the tornado
Bee:without being sucked up?
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:I mean, it's, it's honestly, it's, it's one of the, it's, it's cool, but it's
Nathan:also one of the dumbest things ever.
Nathan:One
Bee:of the dumbest things.
Bee:And it really serves for the final 10 minutes of the film.
Sam:Yeah, I will say that him like putting fire, fireworks into the
Sam:tornado was incredibly crowd pleasing.
Sam:Like that was truly hilarious.
Sam:That was awesome.
Sam:That was like a yee haw moment.
Sam:Could you
Bee:guys hear the, the woman next to me who just kept going, who
Bee:was so anxious through that home?
Bee:She was feeling tension in that movie.
Bee:So, so clearly it did get across to some folks, but she was, Oh my God.
Bee:Oh my God.
Nathan:There's something else I want to mention because I don't know, I'm not a,
Nathan:I'm not a woman, but there is, I think, some offensive use of mansplaining in
Nathan:this movie that I thought was hysterical.
Nathan:Oh,
Bee:you mean when he goes in and finds her homework and is like, you
Bee:could have just fixed it like this.
Bee:Well, the first one is when
Nathan:the Anthony Ramos character and, and Kate are in the cafe and
Nathan:he's explaining how our tornado works.
Nathan:Number one, like this is our tornado.
Nathan:He takes a glass of water.
Nathan:This is the tornado.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:I think she knows.
Nathan:And this is how you triangulate something and he takes the maple syrup or barbecue
Nathan:packets and she's like, Oh, I get it.
Nathan:Like it's obviously for the audience, but it was like the most, it was
Nathan:like the dumbest explanation ever.
Nathan:I'm telling you, she's admitting pixels.
Bee:She's like a perfect PhD scientist who has enough trauma to
Bee:need more people in her life, but she also likes to chase tornadoes.
Bee:And by the way, she can like cook and grow up on a farm.
Nathan:There's like three scenes where someone explains to her
Nathan:how tornadoes work and it's like, Mike, this woman's like a genius.
Nathan:She knows everything, like a lot about weather and people are
Nathan:explaining tornadoes to her and like how some basic science works.
Nathan:You, by the way.
Nathan:I want to jump ahead.
Nathan:This movie is kind of has a lot of techno jargon babble in it,
Trailer:which
Nathan:I, I, I, I dug it to what, and this, what I really did like though,
Nathan:is that never did I feel like I was playing catch up with any of it.
Nathan:It was just the right amount.
Nathan:To keep, you know, the audience briefed to what's going on, make the character
Nathan:sound smart, but also the audience's eyes.
Nathan:Mm-Hmm.
Nathan:, you know, not glazing over either.
Nathan:So I thought it was really, really good screenwriting the way that,
Nathan:that, the way that was performed.
Nathan:So I, I liked it a lot.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:I'm with you
Bee:. Sam: So I, yeah, I, I mean I I.
Bee:And I want to say, and I want to stress too, like, even though I
Bee:wasn't, like, wowed by a lot of the action, it certainly was not bad.
Bee:Like, there's nothing bad in this movie.
Bee:There are just things that I've seen before and, like, done
Bee:with more, like, spectacle.
Bee:But, like, I did enjoy it.
Bee:So inoffensive, inoffensive.
Nathan:So I think we've got to talk about the, the finale, the end scene,
Nathan:because as much as I did love this movie, I think we all are in agreement
Nathan:that this final sequence, the final tornado, which is, it's like a 20
Nathan:minute climax of this movie, it has.
Nathan:It's not the best part of this film.
Nathan:It has a very conventional ending, and there's some
Nathan:really dumb things that happen
Sam:in
Nathan:this.
Sam:It also felt to me like a good, like, middle of the film action set piece.
Sam:Like, like, even though the scale was big, like, I feel like the final set
Sam:piece could have just been something crazier, where they're like, they
Sam:find their car surrounded by like a, like a circuit, like like six F
Sam:fives close, you know what I mean?
Sam:Like something, something more.
Sam:I just, I was not too worried about them not surviving in this.
Sam:Like I did not, the last set piece, I did not feel the danger as much, although
Sam:there's some clever visuals, but like that to me felt like standard CGI mayhem.
Nathan:One thing that the predecessor of this is when You've got Anthony
Nathan:Ramos and Superman are out driving.
Nathan:I'm going to call him and he kind of has a change.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:We find out a little more than halfway through this movie that
Nathan:his, his group is work is they don't have the best intentions.
Nathan:They are swooping in after these communities have been
Nathan:devastated by tornadoes.
Nathan:And they're working with some real estate mogul that's helping him buy this land.
Nathan:So.
Nathan:What he does is his partner, I forget his name, but I'll call him Superman.
Nathan:He says, no, we got to keep, we have to retrieve the data from these radars.
Nathan:And Anthony Ramos says, no, I'm going to go back and help my friends at the, in the
Nathan:town because the tornado is heading there.
Nathan:So he, I think this is funny.
Nathan:And we talked about this afterwards is that.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:You go set up the thing and he lets him out of the car and he just ditches him.
Nathan:I think in the path of the tornado in to die.
Nathan:And I thought that was like hysterical.
Nathan:I just
Bee:assumed they had the rest of the crew behind them.
Bee:I guess it was my assumption.
Nathan:Does he have?
Nathan:A way of communicating.
Nathan:I don't know, but there's a freaking F5 headed their way.
Nathan:I think it was, who knows if they, if they even survived.
Sam:But that would have been funny if he had like a horrific death, like at
Sam:randomly, like, this is such a brief non sequitur bear with me for one second.
Sam:But I don't know if you remember in Jurassic world, when the assistant who was
Sam:like babysitting the kids, she is like.
Sam:Plucked up by, by like a pterodactyl.
Sam:Then she like falls and is dropped into the ocean.
Sam:Then she's plucked up again.
Sam:Then a giant like fish eats her.
Sam:Like it is a brutal death for no reason.
Sam:And so tying it back in, it'd be funny if he left him on the side of the road.
Sam:And then just some like flying piece of debris smashed into him.
Sam:But that did not happen in the film.
Nathan:So in the meantime, back in the town Glen Powell and And Kate are trying
Nathan:to like rescue people into buildings and they send people in the theater.
Nathan:Glenn Powell gets trapped under some debris and there's a water tower
Nathan:that's collapsing about to fall on him.
Nathan:And, and, and it's a Daisy, right?
Nathan:She's trying to like pry him out.
Nathan:And out of nowhere, out of nowhere, like, like Anthony Ramos knew exactly
Nathan:where to go in town to find them.
Nathan:And like, like, oh, this is, this is so conventional.
Nathan:This is so tropey.
Nathan:Like you're there just in time.
Nathan:I mean, I mean, yes, this is what movies do.
Nathan:I even think in the
Bee:movie theater, there was some like, Was it a universal horror
Bee:movie that was on the screen?
Bee:Frankenstein.
Bee:Frankenstein.
Bee:It was Frankenstein, which
Nathan:I think is appropriate.
Nathan:I mean, the, the tornado is, I thought was,
Bee:I thought that was really fun, that there was this like
Bee:big monster movie on the screen.
Bee:So the, I didn't, the tornado is
Nathan:the monster, so.
Nathan:Yeah, exactly.
Bee:So it's like, that's really kind of fun.
Bee:But I, I just thought it was a super cheesy ending to the point
Bee:where the tornado winds up perfectly framed in the movie theater.
Bee:It's, yeah, that
Sam:was just like, that was overdone symbolism.
Sam:I was like, yep, I get it.
Sam:We're watching the movie of the movie.
Sam:And the tornado is like
Nathan:coming through and I'm trying to figure out, would this be cool if
Nathan:I was watching it in 3D or in a 4DX?
Nathan:Or is this really way too on the nose?
Bee:Yeah, it was.
Bee:It wasn't, and then
Nathan:America will eat it up.
Sam:And I like, I like the mood here, but I, but for me, I still like the,
Sam:the shining in the drive through in the first film, the Kubrick, like
Sam:playing in the background and like Jack Nicholson, like hacking the door as like
Sam:the screen is ripped up and twister.
Sam:Like I just, I like imagery more.
Bee:Totally on point, but not necessarily on the nose.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:I do think.
Bee:The whole Javi using leverage to rescue Glenn Powell, kind of a thing.
Bee:I was, I was just like, It's a callback,
Nathan:it's
Bee:a callback too, because it
Nathan:happened.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Yeah, I know.
Bee:And I was like, I didn't really, really feel anything.
Bee:I don't know.
Bee:It w it didn't sing to me.
Bee:But much like the original Twister I did really like the scenes at the farm.
Bee:I like the scenes at Daisy, Edgar Jones's mom's house.
Bee:I thought those were, yeah, I liked those scenes
Sam:too.
Sam:I thought those were good.
Sam:And I wanna say, yeah, Daisy, Edgar Jones, I was, I thought she was really good.
Sam:She did great and I was surprised.
Sam:Not surprised, but like in the trailers, the first trailers for
Sam:the film, that was very sort of Glen Powell centric and she was in it.
Sam:But you didn't have a sense of what she would be like?
Sam:I was surprised by their chemistry, and I thought her performance was like.
Sam:Excellent.
Sam:So like character wise, the two of them love, love the characters.
Sam:Like if they, if they, if, if this does really well and they do, and
Sam:then the two of them gang like team up for another twister adventure,
Sam:like I'll be at the theater, you know,
Nathan:what would the third one be called?
Sam:Twistersers,
Nathan:Twisterers.
Nathan:I think Thristers.
Nathan:Thristers.
Nathan:Thristers, yeah.
Nathan:With a three instead of the T.
Nathan:Or like a
Sam:dumb like like with a colon like Twisters Dominion or something.
Bee:Yeah, I'd like if they went the Fast and Furious route and made no sense.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:With all these, this subsequent naming of films.
Sam:Twisters in da house.
Trailer:Mm
Bee:hmm.
Nathan:What's really funny is, you know, the, one of the, the, the bigger quotes
Nathan:from the, the trailer, you know, the, you don't face your fears, you ride them.
Nathan:The context of that takes out a whole new meaning.
Nathan:I think it, when you see the movie, that takes place in the
Nathan:rodeo when they're looking at each other and damn, you see this.
Nathan:And now I'm thinking like.
Nathan:This is like an invitation of sex right now is what that really means.
Nathan:Oh yeah, it's still a horny
Bee:movie.
Bee:I like that they kept the horn from the original movie.
Bee:That did work.
Bee:I thought that was pretty good.
Bee:That's,
Nathan:yeah, that was clearly.
Nathan:You know, I have
Bee:to knock this down to a three.
Bee:I'm so sorry.
Bee:The more we talk about it, the less I like it.
Bee:That's okay.
Bee:Yeah.
Sam:You just officially joined the, the Sam club.
Sam:Cause as you know, I will like, I shop there, take off
Sam:or add stars at Sam's club.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Hey, I didn't realize that, but now I did.
Sam:I actually am a member of Sam's club and I can go in and enjoy the discounts.
Sam:I do get discounts.
Sam:So check them out and go find your local Sam's club.
Bee:Yeah, no, it's not a great, fine.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:I don't know.
Nathan:I don't have anything else.
Nathan:Really.
Nathan:I'm looking at my, I definitely don't have anything else to say about this.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:I, I'm glad I saw this.
Nathan:I'm glad that we, we I'm glad we saw it together.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:I'm glad we got to see this together.
Nathan:I had a, I had a fun time.
Nathan:I had a really fun time watching this.
Sam:Potential title for the third one, Twister's Epitaph.
Sam:Whoa, heavy, heavy shit going down in this movie.
Nathan:Oh, last thing I would just mention, I, I do think it
Nathan:was really smart not to include a strong message of climate change.
Nathan:In this movie, it's like not even anywhere near this, you know, people going to this
Nathan:movie, don't care about climate change.
Nathan:They just want to be entertained.
Nathan:And I was interested to see if that was going to be a theme
Nathan:of this, but not a whiff of it.
Nathan:So I don't know if you guys had a thought on that.
Sam:I did.
Sam:I thought, I thought, yeah.
Sam:I mean, like, There wasn't really a need, like they addressed that.
Sam:I think I read somewhere an article.
Sam:They didn't want it to be like a message film.
Sam:Like they're making a blockbuster.
Sam:And plus they don't need to talk about climate change.
Sam:Cause clearly there's a lot of dangerous tornadoes.
Sam:So like the climate change speaks for itself.
Nathan:It doesn't need to be in a movie.
Nathan:It's exactly around.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Decide for yourself, you know, you know, we don't need, we don't
Nathan:need a movie, especially a, a summer, you know, action movie.
Nathan:This isn't the day after tomorrow,
Bee:which I enjoyed.
Bee:This movie was really pandering to the heartland in a way
Bee:that would have Not worked.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:Had they included that messaging?
Nathan:Yes.
Sam:All right.
Sam:It would not work if they included that messaging and it'd be very like
Sam:condescending if imagine if they had like a climate change explanation in the middle
Sam:of film, you know, in the first Jurassic.
Sam:Park where there's that cartoon of how they discover the dinosaurs do that.
Sam:And they do a climate change and Glenn Powell's like, get this.
Sam:So the Arctic's clear.
Bee:Kate learns about it for the first time.
Bee:Exactly.
Sam:Exactly.
Sam:What?
Sam:Wow.
Bee:They didn't go over this in PhDs.
Nathan:All right, let's take a quick break.
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Nathan:So we are coming back to for a conclusion of our review and our verdict.
Nathan:And yeah, I'm going to go first.
Nathan:So, like I said before, I love this movie.
Nathan:I think this is the the perfect summer.
Nathan:Blockbuster popcorn movie.
Nathan:But what's weird is that this is still not a perfect movie,
Nathan:even though I gave it a 4.
Nathan:5, I would not say this is like, Amazing.
Nathan:It's got a lot of flaws, but if you know, we're going to, I forgot to mention
Nathan:this at the top of the show, we're going to do our top five disaster films.
Nathan:I don't even know if this would make my top five, even it might be recency
Nathan:bias, you know, that I, I might, I, I, it's hard to, it's hard to say,
Nathan:but I think a lot of these other ones, I might not put it in there, but I
Nathan:had a damn good time with this movie.
Nathan:So I have, I have a suspicion where this might be going with you two guys.
Nathan:So I'm going to say, I guess I want to say maybe it goes in.
Nathan:Can I do that?
Nathan:No, no,
Sam:we need her.
Sam:We need to sit.
Sam:We don't have a sound effect for maybe the maybe sound effect is like,
Nathan:yes, I'll put it in there.
Nathan:I'll put it in.
Nathan:Cause.
Nathan:I do want to see it again.
Nathan:I really do.
Nathan:Okay.
Bee:I'll take it right back out.
Bee:I It was good.
Bee:It was a good movie.
Bee:It's fine.
Bee:We're going to have other stuff to watch.
Bee:Yeah.
Sam:Okay.
Sam:I enjoyed it.
Sam:I liked it.
Sam:I solidly enjoyed the movie.
Sam:But I will take my chances and I will say no to putting it.
Sam:In the vault.
Sam:In the hopes of when the nuclear fallout subsides, maybe one day when I can venture
Sam:forth safely outside again, I'll find a copy and be reunited with the film.
Sam:So never say never, but I don't need it in the vault with me.
Nathan:Sam, this is unprecedented.
Sam:It's, it's, it's, it's an unprecedented summer.
Sam:Maybe, maybe, maybe you need,
Nathan:maybe you need this.
Trailer:If you feel it, raise it!
Bee:That really is such a vibe.
Bee:That really is such a vibe, though.
Nathan:All right, well, I think The decision has been made.
Sam:I love that sound.
Sam:I love how damning that sound effect is.
Sam:It's like, get out of here.
Trailer:All
Nathan:right.
Nathan:Twister's not saved in our vault, but that's okay.
Nathan:It's okay.
Nathan:No, I, I understand.
Nathan:There's, there's, there's better movies.
Sam:And just because I didn't save it, that doesn't, just because it
Sam:isn't, just because I didn't save it, doesn't mean that I hate it.
Trailer:One tiny spark becomes a night of blazing suspense as the world's tallest
Trailer:building becomes the Towering Inferno.
Trailer:Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred
Trailer:Astaire, Susan Blakely, Richard Chamberlain, Jennifer Jones, O.
Trailer:J.
Trailer:Simpson, Robert Vaughn, and Robert Wagner.
Trailer:Erwin Allen's production of The Towering Inferno.
Trailer:See it for Christmas at a theater near you.
Trailer:Rated PG.
Nathan:We have something new this week.
Nathan:We are going to do our top five.
Nathan:Favorite disaster movies, and this is not just like the 90s.
Nathan:This could be from the entire history of movies.
Nathan:We're going to use the term disaster movies loosely.
Nathan:I specifically said not just natural disasters.
Nathan:So do with this what you may, you know, this is have fun with this.
Nathan:This will not be on your tombstone.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:This list.
Nathan:So.
Nathan:We did not like figure out who's going to go first on this.
Nathan:So how should we do this?
Nathan:Do you want me to go do the same order?
Nathan:Stay the same order?
Nathan:Same order?
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:So, by the way, do we need, what is a disaster movie to you guys?
Nathan:And any, any rules to this that you think?
Nathan:That you've only ruled
Sam:that I had in my head was there has to be significant
Sam:destruction of some sort in the film.
Bee:Yeah,
Sam:it's a good rule.
Bee:That is a good rule.
Bee:I kind of interpreted it as natural disaster, but hearing this now, I'm like,
Bee:Oh yeah, I could definitely open that up because I wanted to go in to a little
Bee:bit more sci fi or even animal, you know, so we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Bee:We'll, we'll all learn my top five.
Bee:All right.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So I guess we'll go, we're still from five to one, my number five.
Nathan:I went with Knowing, the 2009 Alex Proyas film starring Nick Cage, Rose Byrne
Nathan:Nick Cage is a professor who discovers a time capsule from 1959 containing
Nathan:a mysterious list of numbers and I think he realizes he can predict it.
Nathan:Dates and death tolls and coordinates of major disasters over the past 50 years,
Nathan:including some that haven't happened yet.
Nathan:I know this movie has some, yeah, it's got some decent special effects.
Nathan:I've always enjoyed Alex Proyas as a director, even when he swings and misses.
Nathan:The ending of this movie is not great, but I still think it's
Nathan:worth worth the ride, I think.
Nathan:So yeah.
Nathan:Knowing, from 2009, is my number five.
Nathan:Nice.
Nathan:That's a good choice.
Nathan:Okay, thank you.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:Sam,
Sam:do you like Knowing?
Sam:I do, but I haven't seen it in so long.
Sam:I just remember there's an impressive and creepy plane crash in that movie.
Sam:Yeah, the plane crash.
Sam:Across the highway.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Sam:I do remember that.
Sam:I would have to go back.
Sam:I remember enjoying it, but it's been a while.
Nathan:So
Bee:I have one for my number five, and I'm not sure if you could really
Bee:classify it because the, this is a genre that can be a little tough for me.
Bee:But I have a backup.
Bee:So if you guys are like, kick this movie out of here, I hear you.
Bee:I
Nathan:have my, my, my finger on the purge button here.
Nathan:So, Sure.
Bee:I was in Spielberg frame of mind, War of the Worlds, got a lightning storm.
Bee:Yeah.
Trailer:Yes.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:Yeah.
Nathan:All
Bee:right.
Nathan:We'll take it.
Bee:I love this movie.
Nathan:It's got a
Bee:badass lightning storm.
Bee:Well, you
Nathan:weren't here when we reviewed it.
Nathan:That was like last spring.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:No.
Bee:Yeah,
Nathan:we did.
Nathan:That was one of our early Spielberg retrospective films.
Bee:Oh, yeah.
Bee:I love this movie.
Bee:I think it's great.
Bee:I don't know what you guys think of this movie, but now I want to find out.
Nathan:You know what though?
Nathan:I could tell you this.
Nathan:It was not voted into our vault.
Bee:Really?
Bee:No.
Bee:We did
Nathan:that retrospectively.
Nathan:Zoinks.
Nathan:Yep.
Nathan:Sam, what is your number five?
Sam:Boy, this is tough.
Sam:I have been oscillating and like this list may be subject to change
Sam:in the future, but I'd say my number five is Greenland, starring
Sam:Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin.
Sam:And this movie is the antithesis of Don't Look Up.
Sam:It is a gritty, brutally realistic and terrifying and harrowing first Person,
Sam:almost family account of a, of a family that is just like living their life
Sam:and they get a presidential alert on their cell phone that they need to
Sam:like report to this location so that they can be transported to Greenland.
Sam:And like literally a comet is, is coming and it's broken off into
Sam:pieces and the government has sort of hidden how dangerous it will be.
Sam:But destruction starts happening in the distance.
Sam:But this is not the film where like people outrun fireballs and
Sam:there's cheesy, unrealistic effects.
Sam:Everything that happens in this movie is grounded and terrifying and psychological.
Sam:And the tapestry, the canvas is very up close and personal.
Sam:Harrowing movie.
Sam:Greenland.
Sam:I've never heard of this.
Sam:I think you would.
Sam:I think you would really like it because yeah, check it out.
Sam:It does not fall into the blockbuster trap.
Sam:It feels like a documentary of.
Sam:A couple and a family trying to get to an airport and just their
Sam:grounded, terrifying adventure.
Sam:And like, just, I was mesmerized by this movie.
Sam:So that would, that would be on there.
Nathan:I never checked this out because I saw Gerard Butler on the cover of it.
Nathan:And I figured this is just action schlock.
Nathan:So definitely
Sam:not.
Sam:It is different.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:I thought
Sam:the same thing.
Sam:It is.
Sam:It was surprisingly good.
Sam:Like,
Nathan:But I agree with you.
Nathan:I've only heard amazing things about this, but that was my initial opinion
Nathan:about it when I saw this, but I have hearing the same thing you're saying, Sam,
Nathan:is that this is much better than that.
Nathan:And I was just seeing that there is a sequel coming out in
Nathan:a couple soon called Greenland Migration also with Gerard Butler.
Nathan:So
Sam:really?
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Oh, that is
Sam:great news.
Sam:I did not know that at all.
Sam:That is the first I've heard of that.
Sam:And like, I can see how they would continue the story,
Sam:and that is spectacular.
Nathan:Same director, too.
Sam:Awesome.
Nathan:Cool.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Alright.
Nathan:Day made.
Nathan:Day made.
Nathan:Alright, so we're moving on to our number fours of our top
Nathan:five favorite disaster movies.
Nathan:And I have
Bee:it on good authority, Nathan's is Snakes on a Plane.
Bee:Is that right?
Bee:You know, I know
Nathan:I never thought about that, but let me
Sam:guess your number for your number four is of disaster movies,
Sam:a different kind of disaster.
Sam:The box office disaster of caddy shack too.
Bee:I did think about doing box offered
Sam:G Lee woo.
Nathan:So this one is one of the OG disaster films.
Nathan:It came out in 1972 is directed by.
Nathan:Christopher, I think Nimi and Nemi the film laid out the blueprint
Nathan:for the huge ensemble cast that, that many other disaster films of
Nathan:the seventies would soon adopt.
Nathan:Typically a cast of actors way past their prime or, or ex athletes,
Nathan:whomever they could get to show up the movies, the Poseidon adventures, it's
Nathan:actually one of the best of these.
Nathan:It was Eric.
Nathan:Gene Hackman is the lead, and he's really great in this.
Nathan:God, I'd watch Hackman
Bee:in anything.
Nathan:The whole, the whole cast is great.
Nathan:You got Ernest Borgnine, Red Buttons, Shelley Winters, who actually was
Nathan:nominated for Best Supporting Actress.
Sam:Leslie Nielsen.
Nathan:Leslie Nielsen, Roddy McDowell.
Nathan:You know, basically, if they weren't on the set, That day, they were probably
Nathan:taping an episode of Hollywood Squares.
Nathan:That's how I always look at it.
Nathan:There's so much suspense in this.
Nathan:Basically, all the passengers are trying to escape a capsized
Nathan:ocean liner hit by a rogue wave.
Nathan:Exactly what I want to think about as I get ready for my first cruise next week.
Sam:I will say, I love the Poseidon Adventure.
Sam:And the, I, when the rogue wave appears and the suspense building up that I
Sam:still find that absolutely terrifying.
Nathan:Yeah, it's a sad adventure in my number four.
Nathan:Beast!
Bee:Alright, well, we know I like my movies two ways.
Bee:Wet and schlocky.
Bee:Big fans.
Bee:Love Jason Takes Manhattan.
Bee:Love Jason Takes Manhattan.
Bee:Love Deep Blue Sea.
Bee:No, my number four.
Bee:Even wetter, even schlockier.
Bee:We've gone all the way wet with Waterworld.
Bee:Oh, no way.
Bee:Cool.
Bee:I ride for the cause.
Sam:That movie has a great, great soundtrack.
Bee:I saw this when I was a kid.
Bee:You know, it came out in 1995.
Bee:I watched it with my dad.
Bee:I just have good, fun, nostalgic memories of this movie.
Bee:I'm not going to say it's, it's the blueprint or the best of the
Bee:best of anything, but I really enjoy watching it and still do.
Bee:I have great
Sam:nostalgia for it.
Sam:I was Summer 95, I was 14 and I had, that movie was like epic and that's
Sam:not actually, because of that movie, I read a review of that film and they
Sam:said, well, not quite as terrifying as the world of Road Warrior.
Sam:And I was like, Road Warrior?
Sam:What's that?
Sam:So Waterworld led me to Mad Max that summer.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:So 14 year old.
Sam:Summer.
Sam:Love that summer.
Sam:That's a great summer.
Nathan:So I, I regrettably did not have it.
Nathan:I did not see it in the theater and I'm hoping that next year with,
Nathan:I think it's its 30th anniversary next year that it will find its way
Nathan:into a big screen somewhere near me.
Nathan:It'd be so fun.
Nathan:I would like to see it in the theater.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:It's just a really fun movie.
Nathan:All right, Sam, what say you, you're number.
Sam:So my number four a film directed by Mimi Leder starring Morgan Freeman
Sam:and Tia Leone Tia Leone, excuse me, I'm referring to Deep Impact.
Bee:I thought about this.
Bee:This was like six, this was the one where I was like, if you guys don't
Bee:like War of the Worlds, Steep Impact.
Sam:I am a sucker for the tone of this movie.
Sam:James Horner's score, May He Rest in Peace, is haunting and beautiful.
Sam:End.
Sam:I, this, this was the summer of comet movies, the summer of 1998.
Sam:This came out first and then Armageddon came out later in the summer.
Sam:Armageddon is the bigger hit, but scientists agree that this movie
Sam:of the two is the more realistic.
Sam:I love this movie.
Sam:It's serious.
Sam:It's scary.
Sam:And it, I just find the way the script unfolds clever.
Sam:So yeah, that would be my number four deep impact.
Sam:It just, the, the implications of like the, what's the, the world being
Sam:destroyed on that scale is terrifying.
Sam:I just love the, the,
Nathan:the human drama element of this movie.
Nathan:I really, you get to know these, but Judd Hirsch in this is so many, so many.
Nathan:sub stories in this.
Nathan:It's really, it really is well done.
Nathan:The effects are not that good in this though, but.
Sam:They have not, they have not, some of them have not aged well, but
Sam:some are good and there is still a hilarious shot of a tsunami like.
Sam:overtaking New York.
Sam:And there's this elderly gentleman reading a newspaper that is clueless.
Sam:And this moment played at a, has a joke, even on the screen back
Sam:then everyone was like, he's oblivious that the wave is coming.
Sam:So yeah, she, but some cheesy special effects agree.
Sam:Some still hold up some not so great, but in general love the movie.
Nathan:It's a good movie.
Nathan:All right.
Nathan:So, all right, so, up to me, my number three.
Nathan:So my number three is The Impossible from 2012.
Nathan:This is directed by J.
Nathan:A.
Nathan:Bayona and it's starring Naomi Watts, Ewan McGregor, and there are a couple, actually
Nathan:parents, who are vacationing in Thailand in December of 2004 when the infamous
Nathan:Hit the coast causing incomprehensible devastation to the country.
Nathan:This is a harrowing story and will exhaust you.
Nathan:I can't believe I haven't seen this.
Sam:I gotta see this.
Nathan:Yeah, it's great.
Nathan:I've definitely seen this.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:So, the scenes where the tsunami first hit are incredible.
Nathan:The effects still, I mean, this is a 12 year old movie, it's still incredible.
Nathan:I know much of it is CGI, but it's clear that a lot of these
Nathan:actors spent hours on it.
Nathan:Hours, days in the water filming these scenes and it looks,
Nathan:it looked like a rough shoot.
Nathan:Very good film.
Nathan:One of the better disaster films for sure.
Nathan:So yeah.
Nathan:Wow.
Nathan:Definitely check that out.
Nathan:It is really good.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Cool.
Nathan:That's my number three.
Nathan:Be your number three.
Bee:My number three.
Bee:Is a little movie you might've heard of.
Bee:Oh,
Nathan:go ahead.
Bee:It's just about two love struck kids in Oklahoma.
Bee:Just chasing things they love.
Bee:It's Twister.
Bee:Woo.
Bee:I can't say any more about it.
Bee:I've said so much about Twister in the last 72 hours,
Bee:but big fan.
Nathan:Big you are.
Nathan:All right, Sam, what is your number three?
Sam:My number three is the wildly entertaining and hilariously
Sam:ridiculous and over the top massive spectacle, Roland Emmerich's 2012.
Sam:I unapologetically Love this, this guilty pleasure, epic film starring
Sam:John Cusack hilarious over the top performance by Woody Harrelson as
Sam:a guy who's just like lost it, but the scale of this movie is amazing.
Sam:Basically the like Earth's It's crust starts to shift and they're
Sam:like tectonic plates lose their position because of solar flares.
Sam:So like Los Angeles just sinks into the ocean.
Sam:There's huge tsunamis.
Sam:There is spectacle after spectacle in this movie that is just nuts and ridiculous.
Sam:And I love it, including a giant arc that's like lost control of
Sam:its engine and in rising waters.
Sam:They have to turn or they're going to crash right into
Sam:the face of Mount Everest.
Sam:Sublimely ridiculous.
Sam:I remember when this
Bee:came out.
Bee:Yeah, I
Sam:do love it.
Sam:I do love it.
Sam:So that'd be my, my number three.
Sam:It's
Bee:good choice.
Bee:It's not a good choice.
Bee:It's terrible choice, but I support you.
Nathan:We still love you, Sam.
Bee:We do.
Sam:I'm aware of its quality level, but I, I, Hey man, I chose
Bee:water world.
Bee:You gotta go with what you love.
Nathan:It's fine.
Nathan:If you feel
Bee:it, chase it.
Nathan:Well You can make fun of me for this next one because you, you
Nathan:got, you got 2012, you know, this one, you may have heard of it too.
Nathan:It was a little movie and I debated if it, this is a disaster film or not, but
Nathan:yeah, it is because the last hour of this movie is about as intense as it
Nathan:gets as the RMS Titanic slowly sinks into the Atlantic on April 15th, 1912.
Nathan:Say what you will about this movie.
Nathan:I know there are haters out there, but I think Titanic does so brilliantly.
Nathan:It's a great one.
Nathan:That's what really is that James Cameron lets us indulge in the world
Nathan:of living on the ship for two hours.
Nathan:We get to know the geography and more probably we spend time
Nathan:with all of these characters.
Nathan:Not just the two leads, but all, you know, the people that work
Nathan:on there, these various people.
Nathan:I refuse
Bee:to let the internet make us think liking Titanic is a hot take.
Nathan:It's a good movie.
Nathan:It is.
Nathan:It is an excellent film.
Nathan:But because we spend all this time, we are invested in the survival of
Nathan:these characters down to the most minute character in this film.
Nathan:It is why Titanic is such a riveting film.
Nathan:And that last hour is still one of the best hours in cinema history
Nathan:as that ship slowly goes down.
Nathan:And of course, the extremely climactic ending as the liner
Nathan:violently goes down at the end.
Nathan:So Titanic is my number two.
Bee:You know, it's a little bit of a wet movie,
Nathan:a little bit.
Bee:It's a little bit.
Nathan:There might get wetter.
Bee:I might get wetter.
Bee:My number two, bigger, bigger, splashier, wetter movie.
Bee:I love this movie.
Bee:It's
Nathan:another, we don't have anything that's overlapping yet.
Nathan:This is crazy.
Nathan:I don't know.
Nathan:This is crazy.
Nathan:Yeah.
Bee:I think my number one might overlap with someone else's.
Bee:Okay.
Bee:But I love this next movie.
Bee:It is another boating incident movie.
Bee:It is, of course, a perfect storm.
Bee:I think that I love this movie.
Bee:It's so good.
Bee:The whole cast is great.
Bee:As a New Englander, I just felt this one like in my bones, you know.
Bee:Another
Sam:great James Horner score.
Bee:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's just great.
Bee:It's a great character story.
Bee:All the side actors are great.
Bee:It's another great ensemble piece.
Bee:You really feel the tension in this movie.
Bee:I think it still looks good.
Bee:I would watch this anytime.
Bee:Throw it on.
Sam:I love the like autumnal feel of that movie.
Sam:It's like October 1991.
Sam:The Grand Banks like, oh, it's epic.
Bee:And it's like, it's based on real stuff.
Bee:Yeah.
Bee:You know,
Sam:since we used to quote Mark Wahlberg in the show, I will quote
Sam:a line from, from perfect storm.
Sam:He's like, yeah, ma, I know the grand banks and no joke in October.
Nathan:Love it.
Nathan:Great pick the Sam.
Nathan:What's your number two?
Nathan:I
Sam:mean, I spoke too soon about overlap but my number two is none
Sam:other than the Poseidon Adventure.
Sam:You discussed it already.
Sam:I love that movie and Leslie Nielsen in a serious role.
Sam:This is before his comedy extravaganza.
Sam:I find this movie, I saw it as a kid and I just find it terrifying and riveting.
Sam:And like, even though some of the visual effects are old and clearly,
Sam:sometimes you're looking at models, it is so well done and so involving.
Sam:I love it.
Sam:And there is a really not so great remake called Poseidon in 2006, directed
Sam:by Wolfgang Peterson, starring Kurt Russell, who does a great job, but
Sam:like very, yeah, definitely a remake.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:Okay.
Nathan:Wolfgang Peterson did Perfect Storm.
Sam:Indeed he did.
Sam:All right.
Bee:Perfect.
Bee:So I'm more like perfect movie.
Bee:Fox just
Sam:lifting, throw off your bow line, throw off or something else.
Sam:You know what?
Sam:You're a goddamn swords boat captain.
Sam:Is there anything better in the world?
Nathan:Sorry.
Nathan:So my number one pick is I think the most broey movie on my list and it
Nathan:has been mentioned already on here.
Nathan:I'm sticking with boats.
Nathan:This one isn't quite as large as Titanic.
Nathan:It's been mentioned already, but it's the Andrea Gale believed to have gone down in
Nathan:one of those violent weather occurrences in the Atlantic on October 1991.
Nathan:Perfect Storm, George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg as Gloucester men.
Nathan:Wait, Perfect Storm
Sam:is your number one?
Sam:Yes.
Nathan:That's awesome.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:The men who get caught in a storm while returning home after a big haul of fish.
Nathan:I think the special effects in this movie still did pretty good, you know?
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:They look good.
Nathan:It looks good.
Nathan:I love this movie.
Nathan:I think George Clooney is fantastic in it.
Nathan:It is rooted in that Massachusetts thing.
Nathan:Oh, I love the Massachusetts like pathos, mythos to
Sam:it.
Sam:Like when it starts and like, she has the nightmare, the Warner Brothers logo,
Sam:and you like see them coming back to the doc, you're like, ah, Gloucester,
Sam:Gloucester, you know, it's so funny.
Sam:That was so close to my, that was my number five.
Sam:And then I thought of Greenland, but like, I don't know.
Sam:I may have a deeper love for perfect storm, but I do love, I
Sam:love, I do love perfect storm.
Sam:I saw that in the theater that, and I liked it, but it
Sam:grew on me over the years.
Sam:It grew
Nathan:on me as well.
Nathan:And I just want to also highlight just the awesome cast in this.
Nathan:They got other members.
Nathan:You got John C.
Nathan:Reilly, William Fichtner, who has made a career out of playing
Nathan:swarmy people, swarmy characters, John Hawks in an early role.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Karen.
Nathan:Alan and Diane Lane.
Nathan:This is Michael
Sam:Ironside.
Nathan:Yeah, I was going
Bee:to say Michael Ironside.
Bee:No one in this movie is in a little bit swashbuckling.
Bee:Again, it sings to my New England heart.
Bee:If you got it.
Sam:Yeah.
Bee:And if you haven't read, I know she makes a cameo, but Linda Greenlaw is one
Bee:of the, the Fisher, People, Fisher Woman, who this is all based on and she was
Bee:there and yeah, you should check it out.
Bee:Her books are great.
Bee:Yeah, I have a copy of The Hungry Ocean.
Bee:It's awesome.
Sam:That's awesome.
Sam:Like the end of that film is so emotional when Mary Elizabeth Mastery
Sam:Antonio is like delivering the speech.
Sam:Then it pushes into the Gloucester sign and James Horner gives you
Sam:like the most new Englandy composed epicness . I'm gonna watch this tonight.
Sam:Yeah, I might watch it.
Sam:Two best line ever.
Sam:Waking up and watch this Michael Watch party.
Sam:Best line ever, Michael Ironside.
Sam:I actually quote this movie a lot by myself.
Sam:Sometimes I'll be in my car by myself and I'll quote Michael Ironside.
Sam:He'll be like, I like you, Billy, but I like my boat better.
Nathan:Love it.
Nathan:All right, B, you're number one.
Bee:Well, my number one, it's not a bro y movie, but it does
Bee:have who I would consider kind of a swashbuckling bro at its heart.
Bee:It is of course Dante's Peak.
Opening:No way, that's awesome!
Opening:I don't know
Bee:how this hasn't come up yet.
Bee:This is what's flooring me a little bit and I'm surprised.
Bee:This is a classic movie.
Bee:Another great cast, Linda Hamilton is in this, of course Pierce
Bee:Brosnan is the heart of it.
Bee:It's a great time.
Bee:Yeah.
Sam:I love Dante's Peak.
Sam:I need to
Nathan:revisit
Sam:this.
Nathan:Between this and I will shamelessly
Sam:Forgive me guys, but I will shamelessly plug Walks of World.
Sam:Briefly, I visited Dante's Peak, the town of Wallace, Idaho.
Sam:Walks of World, YouTube handle, Walks of World 1981.
Sam:Check it out.
Sam:Look for the Dante's Peak video.
Sam:It's a million times
Bee:more powerful than the atomic bomb.
Bee:You know, like, it's just good shit.
Sam:Is that your recipe for frog soup, Harry?
Sam:No, that's my recipe for disaster.
Sam:Sam.
Sam:Down to you, your number one.
Sam:So by number one, the most spectacular disaster film ever.
Sam:And it's just like the apex that I cannot deny is my number one
Sam:is indeed Titanic, number one.
Trailer:Hey,
Sam:yeah.
Sam:I mean, you said it all perfectly, so I will not repeat it, Nathan.
Sam:But last hour, Titanic sinking the characters, just the Cecil B.
Sam:DeMille grandeur of that movie remains jaw dropping to this day.
Bee:I wonder if I can find a way to make it sound like Babel.
Bee:I'm trying to attach every movie.
Bee:It's kind of like Babylon.
Bee:Good movie.
Bee:Kind of like Babylon.
Bee:Titanic rules.
Bee:Have, has anyone seen the Celine Dion documentary on prime?
Bee:It's a really good job.
Bee:Nathan, are you trying to watch more docs this year?
Bee:It's worth it.
Bee:I'm trying.
Bee:It's a good one.
Bee:I
Nathan:haven't failed.
Nathan:I'm trying.
Sam:And the, the, the visual effects too, like when the, when the ship is
Sam:like sticking up in the air and like, The electricity gets knocked out and you just
Sam:see like all the lights go out and it's silhouetted against the stars and you
Sam:like hear all these like muffled yells.
Sam:It's just like that gave me the chills in the theater.
Bee:If we didn't have Titanic, we wouldn't have the oops
Bee:I did it again music video,
Sam:right?
Bee:That's important.
Sam:That is important.
Sam:That is true.
Sam:It's just the scale, the grandeur.
Sam:Like I just love, and I love that we get to spend time and, and the, the
Sam:brilliance of that movie is that, you know, like this is, this happens only the
Sam:first time you see it, but you know that.
Sam:The iceberg is coming, but you don't know when.
Sam:So you're like enjoying the characters and enjoying the drama.
Sam:But like, you're always like, Oh, you, you sense you're like, is it coming?
Sam:Is it not?
Sam:Like, you know, disaster is not far off.
Sam:It's like looming out there.
Sam:That's what gives that movie the epic terror.
Bee:I love Kate Winslet.
Bee:I love
Sam:her.
Sam:She's amazing.
Sam:I mean, James Horner, I'm a huge, I, you're talking about
Sam:you know, Titanic, perfect storm.
Sam:Both James.
Sam:Horner composed films and like, he's my second favorite
Sam:composer alongside John Williams.
Sam:Like, I love James Horner.
Sam:Like, he just, there's a, a melancholy, beautiful tone in a lot of his music.
Sam:Score for Avatar.
Sam:Exactly.
Sam:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Alright.
Nathan:I think this is really great list.
Nathan:We don't have, it's funny, we don't have a lot of crossover.
Nathan:Perfect.
Nathan:Storm was on two of our lists and Titanic crossed over a little bit,
Nathan:but this was a very diverse list.
Nathan:So this is And Poseidon Adventure.
Nathan:Inid is right.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Pose beside adventure, but not, can I
Bee:ask if either of you, so I took it out of my list because
Bee:I consider it a monster movie.
Bee:Not necessarily disaster movie, but based on our loose definition here.
Bee:Did either of you consider Jaws?
Bee:I
Nathan:didn't because I, it was, I, this, this, the monster movie.
Nathan:And then there's that.
Nathan:So I did not, which would be the same thing, like alien, you know, like, yeah.
Nathan:I tend to think of
Sam:like large of destruction, you know what I mean?
Sam:Like mass, like scale, like waves, ships, that kind of thing.
Sam:Like, Volcanoes.
Sam:Yeah.
Sam:Like definitely Dante's Peak.
Sam:I like Dante's Peak and A Perfect Storm a lot.
Sam:I'm surprised they weren't on my top five.
Sam:It's just when it's, I mean, a lot of those, those films
Sam:would be in my top 10 for sure.
Sam:When you got to narrow it down to five, I, it's like, I would want to watch Dante's
Sam:Peak more than Greenland, but I think Greenland is a better, Film, and I have
Sam:to acknowledge that, even though I have a stronger emotional attachment to Dante's.
Nathan:My other criteria is I didn't include like movies that
Nathan:had like deadly viruses, even though that could be a disaster.
Nathan:Yeah, I just decided like, you know what?
Nathan:I wasn't going to go there.
Nathan:I thought of that like I thought of World
Bee:War Z or 28 Days Later, but then I was like, those
Bee:are kind of monster movies.
Bee:Yeah, I
Nathan:didn't do zombies or viruses or things like that.
Nathan:But you know what, I wasn't going to like tell you guys what to do.
Nathan:So, by the way, I, I wanted to do this.
Nathan:I wanted to break down the themes of our disaster movies based
Nathan:on kind of like, so wet list.
Nathan:And now I, now I have the wettest list of all four out of my five movies
Nathan:are water based beside adventure.
Nathan:The impossible Titanic and perfect storm are all water based movies,
Nathan:except for knowing, which is kind of like apocalyptic type, you know, thing.
Nathan:B, you're the most diverse of all of us.
Nathan:You have an alien invasion, two water themed movies, one
Nathan:volcano movie, one tornado movie.
Nathan:Sam, also relatively diverse list, two asteroid comet themed movies,
Nathan:two water themed movies in one movie.
Nathan:I guess like Earth fighting back, like 2012 is I guess like, you
Nathan:know, apocalyptic Earth movie.
Nathan:So yeah, also pretty diverse.
Nathan:I was the one that was really in the water.
Nathan:I was the wettest.
Nathan:You were.
Nathan:You were swimming.
Nathan:And yours
Sam:was very oceanic.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:It's not intentional.
Nathan:I think maybe we just know how to tell ocean stories the best, maybe.
Sam:I love ocean stories.
Sam:And we
Bee:figured out CGI water pretty early on, you know.
Bee:Still looks good.
Nathan:CGI
Sam:water definitely improved a lot better than CGI fire.
Bee:Yeah.
Sam:Okay, but I guarantee I will say this now in Avatar 3 since
Sam:there's going to be a volcano in it.
Sam:I guarantee you James Cameron will take CGI fire to the next level.
Sam:Do we know that?
Bee:Is there a volcano in it?
Bee:Yeah, there's a volcano
Sam:in it, and there's a culture of Navi called the Ash
Sam:People, and they're antagonistic.
Bee:Oh my god, I can't wait.
Bee:I love Avatar so much.
Bee:Me too, I love it.
Bee:I totally love it, yeah.
Bee:Oh my god.
Bee:Put that into my veins.
Bee:So good.
Bee:I bought the Light Up Avatar popcorn bowl, and it's been like a true joy in my life.
Bee:It's really great.
Bee:I'll bring it to our next gathering
Bee:. Sam: If you ever invent an avatar drug, you should call it Awa
Nathan:Okay.
Nathan:I think it's time to wrap it up before you, thats a wrap on disasters before.
Nathan:I just wanna, yeah, so we're gonna be taking a couple weeks
Nathan:off and coming back on the 12th.
Nathan:Of August with our 80s summer comedies theme.
Nathan:We're going to have three weeks of 80s summer comedy, starting
Nathan:off with Ernest goes to camp.
Nathan:Looking forward to that.
Nathan:Yes.
Nathan:So we're so me and B, we're taking vacations.
Nathan:So we are we are recording from the future past.
Nathan:I think when this episode.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:Yeah.
Nathan:So we'll, we'll be back in a couple of weeks.
Nathan:I may
Sam:have to take a vacation as well.
Sam:I did my vacation from my working vacation.
Sam:I'm always trying to run away, so I might try to do something.
Sam:I don't know.
Bee:Let us know where you end up, man.
Sam:I'll let you know if I go anywhere.
Sam:We'll see.
Nathan:All right, so this concludes our short two week mini retrospective
Nathan:of Back to the Framerate enters the suck zone, as we briefly call
Trailer:it.
Nathan:And we'll be back in two weeks for 80 Summers Comedies
Nathan:for the month of August.
Nathan:Everyone you enjoy yourselves and I am gonna, I should really do my real wrap up.
Nathan:That is our show this week.
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Sam:Media Podcast.
Sam:By the way.
Sam:That's the end of the episode.
Sam:I I forgot what I was going to say.
Sam:I had a point that I thought was important to make and I really lost it.
Sam:So I apologize.
Sam:Was the point
Bee:that it's the end of the episode.
Sam:It was, but there was something about driving, driving somewhere.
Sam:Damn it.
Sam:I lost it.
Sam:I'm just gone.
Sam:Driving
Nathan:in the end.
Nathan:Drop it off in our socials, Sam.
Nathan:When you think of it,
Sam:right?
Sam:Yeah, I'll
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Trailer:Well, Oh,
Sam:man, that was really
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