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Twisters (2024): Is This the Perfect Summer Blockbuster We’ve Been Waiting For?
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"You don't chase your fears, you ride them"; Never has a movie quote taken on a whole new meaning in it's proper context. We watched TWISTERS this week! Join us for our opinions on this "lega-sequel" and if it's better or worse than the original. Stick around after our review as we all share our TOP 5 FAVORITE Disaster Films.

05:27 Movie Facts

12:24 Nathan's review

16:58 Bee's review

21:10 Sam's review

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52:36 Top Five Disaster Films Countdown

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I am Nathan Shurer and accompanying me.

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Are my extraordinary movie mavens, Brianna Butterworth and Sam Cole.

Nathan:

Welcome to the show.

Nathan:

I'm doing well.

Nathan:

We just saw each other, Sam.

Nathan:

You were in my studio.

Nathan:

That's true.

Nathan:

It seems like.

Sam:

That is very true.

Sam:

Moments ago in the, in the long path of time, it was, was but a moment.

Nathan:

We we, so we are here.

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I don't have a question this week because we are on our, I would

Nathan:

call it like our summer schedule.

Nathan:

I, I had to turn this episode around really fast because two days ago we,

Nathan:

we recorded our, our Twister episode.

Nathan:

Later that night, we went out and saw this movie that we're

Nathan:

talking about today, Twisters.

Nathan:

So this is quite an exhausting schedule.

Nathan:

So it's worth it.

Nathan:

I hope everyone out there really appreciates what we do for them.

Nathan:

You know, we are laying it out on the line here for you, the

Nathan:

people, the movie fanatics that

Bee:

it's a hard life to go see movies.

Bee:

It is, you know, you

Sam:

could you could refer to it as a whirlwind schedule.

Nathan:

I'm sorry, everyone,

Nathan:

but yeah, so we watched twisters this past weekend in IMAX.

Nathan:

We could like feel those tornadoes like in our laps,

Nathan:

but I'm excited to talk about this movie with you before we do.

Nathan:

I have a plot synopsis.

Nathan:

A trailer for this movie, if I can find it here.

Nathan:

Here's why.

Nathan:

Plot Synopi

Nathan:

haunted by the devastating encounter with a tornado.

Nathan:

Kate Cooper gets lured back to the open planes by her friend Javi to test

Nathan:

a groundbreaking new tracking system.

Nathan:

She soon crosses paths with Tyler Owens, a charming but reckless

Nathan:

social media superstar who thrives on posting his storm chasing adventures.

Nathan:

As storm season intensifies, Kate, Tyler, and their competing teams find themselves

Nathan:

in a fight for their lives as multiple systems converge over central Oklahoma.

Bee:

Dun dun dun!

Nathan:

And here is a little bit of the trailer for Twisters.

Nathan:

Guys, whatever's in there, it's big and it's moving fast.

Nathan:

Drive!

Trailer:

Go!

Trailer:

Guys, we gotta get out of here!

Trailer:

Twisters!

Trailer:

It's Tyler Owens.

Trailer:

Calls himself the

Nathan:

Tornado Wrangler.

Trailer:

If you feel it, TRACE IT!

Trailer:

Trace that!

Trailer:

I said, if you feel it, TRACE IT!

Trailer:

Oh, she's perfect!

Trailer:

She's gorgeous!

Sam:

You thought you could destroy a tornado.

Trailer:

We never had a chance.

Sam:

You want one?

Sam:

You don't face your fears,

Nathan:

you ride em.

Nathan:

You ride em.

Bee:

Amazing.

Nathan:

So, there you have it.

Nathan:

We are gonna get a little bit of the movie facts.

Nathan:

Perhaps.

Nathan:

Sam, do you have some movie facts for us?

Sam:

Indeed, I do.

Nathan:

I know we did not have a lot of time to put, nobody had time to prep for

Nathan:

this episode because we just, we just, it feels like we just got out of the theater.

Sam:

We did just recently get out of the theater, but I do

Sam:

have some movie facts here.

Trailer:

Yeah.

Sam:

Twisters is a 2024 American disaster film directed by Lee Isaac Chung.

Sam:

From a screenplay by Mark L.

Sam:

Smith based on a story by Joseph Kaczynski, serving as a

Sam:

standalone sequel to Twister.

Sam:

The 1996 film, sorry the film, it's hilarious because it's a sequel.

Sam:

The film stars Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell, Anthony Ramos, Brendan

Sam:

Pereira, Maura Tierney and Sasha Lane.

Sam:

And this was directed by Lee Isaac Chung, who I believe is from Arkansas.

Sam:

So is no stranger to the type of landscape present in the film screenplay by Mark L.

Sam:

Smith.

Sam:

It's cinematography was actually by Dan Mendel, who was the he's a veteran in the

Nathan:

industry.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Right.

Sam:

Right.

Sam:

Comes to mind immediately.

Sam:

J.

Sam:

J.

Sam:

Abrams, both the force awakens and the rise of Skywalker.

Sam:

Did a lot of Tony Scott

Nathan:

films.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I'm

Sam:

sorry.

Sam:

Go ahead.

Sam:

No.

Sam:

And so it it came out cinema world, Lester square, July 8th, 2024, and July 19th,

Sam:

2024 in the United States and had a very successful above industry expectations,

Sam:

opening weekend, domestic 80 million.

Sam:

But Budget was 155 to 200 million and box office so far at present is 124 million

Sam:

and that's worldwide in its first weekend.

Sam:

So it is doing well.

Sam:

I know this was shot in Oklahoma, I believe introducing a new

Sam:

generation of storm chasers.

Sam:

It is not really connected to the first movie in characters.

Sam:

It's just its own like standalone film in the same twisters universe 30 years later.

Sam:

But yeah, if anything to add to that or thoughts or,

Nathan:

Not really.

Nathan:

I mean, I just was looking at the overall cast here.

Nathan:

We talked about you know, Lee, Lee, Isaac Chung, you know, it

Nathan:

seems like an interesting choice.

Nathan:

I know he did the, a movie that kind of put them on the map on in 2020 Minari.

Nathan:

I have not seen it, but after this, I kind of want to see it really soon.

Nathan:

As in, I

Sam:

haven't seen it.

Sam:

I would like to see it.

Sam:

Haven't seen it.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

It got,

Bee:

this is the kind of movie.

Bee:

Yeah, it got great reviews.

Bee:

But Twisters, I think is the kind of movie that can like set up your career.

Bee:

So it feels like a weird move, but I also think this might be the kind of movie that

Bee:

just now he makes movies like Twisters.

Bee:

Now he makes movie star vehicles.

Sam:

He might.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

You know, what's interesting is the principal photography for budgetary

Sam:

reasons was actually supposed to start outside Atlanta, Georgia, but

Sam:

instead they commenced in May, 2023 in Oklahoma, where the story takes place.

Sam:

Thank.

Sam:

God, they did that because I don't think Atlanta, Georgia would, could

Sam:

do the backdrop of Oklahoma justice.

Sam:

There's space and fields, but it would, there'd be a different feel to it.

Sam:

So that was a good move.

Nathan:

I want to also, you mentioned some of the cast that was in this

Nathan:

Daisy Daisy Edgar Jones, who I really was not familiar with before this.

Nathan:

I, I have heard about where the crawdad sing.

Nathan:

I have heard nothing but horrible things about things about it.

Nathan:

And it's one of those movies that my, that my wife says, can we sit

Nathan:

down and watch this movie some night?

Nathan:

Mike?

Nathan:

No.

Nathan:

So maybe I have, I've not seen it.

Nathan:

So I should not pass judgment.

Sam:

I think that movie to make it better should have like an

Sam:

opening James Bond style song where it's like the James Bond visuals.

Sam:

Like what's the name of it?

Sam:

Where the crow dads sing.

Trailer:

It's just

Sam:

like where the crowd and sing.

Sam:

Then it would be, that would help the film.

Nathan:

And there's some interesting star power in, in character.

Nathan:

I mean, of course, Glenn Powell, who, you know, is automatic a list

Nathan:

right now, but, you know, of course.

Nathan:

More tyranny who, you know, we just saw her.

Nathan:

I totally forgot.

Nathan:

We just saw her in insomnia a couple months ago.

Nathan:

She was in that.

Nathan:

And of course in the iron claw saw a couple months ago as well.

Nathan:

Had a long career on ER for a while in news radio, but the, the cast that's on

Nathan:

in these tornado crews is fascinating.

Nathan:

Of course, Anthony Ramos, famous for Hamilton in the Heights dumb money.

Nathan:

No, we got some also great, you know, we had, you know, what's in this, the new

Nathan:

Superman, I didn't even recognize him.

Nathan:

I was going through the cast afterwards.

Nathan:

You got David Coren sweat playing Scott, who was hobby's

Nathan:

business partner, unrecognizable.

Nathan:

And, but you just look at that jawline and you know why he's cast a Superman.

Nathan:

So it's, it's, it is really interesting casting.

Nathan:

She'll

Bee:

lean too.

Bee:

She's great.

Bee:

It was great to see her and all her drone action.

Nathan:

You've got was it a Tundi, Adam Impey, who is the lead singer of

Nathan:

TV on the radio in this as well, which is just fascinating casting and Katie

Nathan:

O'Brien, who is in my still my favorite movie of the year, Love, Lies, Bleeding,

Nathan:

she plays Danny, who's the mechanic on Tyler's crew and one other casting

Nathan:

note, one of Katie's original crew members is Kiernan Shipka, who I can't

Nathan:

wait for her career to really explode.

Nathan:

She's all grown up.

Nathan:

She is Sally Draper from Mad Men.

Nathan:

And she was in a movie.

Nathan:

I really enjoyed.

Nathan:

I think at the end of last year, I it was, it was a horror time travel movie.

Nathan:

I'm blanking on it right now, but if you look up totally

Bee:

killer, totally killer.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

I really liked her and totally killer.

Nathan:

So I'm going to see

Bee:

long legs this week.

Bee:

She's in long legs.

Bee:

So for that, yeah.

Nathan:

So great cast all around, right up and down the whole line

Nathan:

of card for, for this movie, but yeah, that's what I wanted to say.

Bee:

Awesome.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I don't have any, really any other Notes or trivia from this.

Nathan:

It's too fresh to me.

Nathan:

I haven't really had time to do that kind of deep dive into this.

Nathan:

I watched a little bit of the behind the scenes making of this, but nothing

Nathan:

too deep, but I guess we can kind of get into our thoughts on this.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Are we ready

Nathan:

for

Sam:

that?

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Twist one quick thing.

Sam:

Twisters is actually shot on 35 millimeter film, which is pretty cool.

Sam:

Nice.

Sam:

After receiving support from Spielberg and Mendel with the Panavision XL

Sam:

cameras and handheld, RE 435S and 235S.

Sam:

Interesting.

Bee:

Great.

Bee:

I don't know that it looks like it.

Sam:

I don't know.

Sam:

I couldn't tell if it looks like it or if that's the resolution

Sam:

at the IMAX that we were at.

Sam:

I was mentioning in the earlier words, the screen is like, maybe though.

Sam:

I don't know.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Well did I say I, I am going first already.

Nathan:

All

Bee:

right.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Here we go.

Nathan:

So,

Nathan:

so last week I sat in this chair to the people that listened to this,

Nathan:

at least it was only a few days ago for us, but last week I sat in this

Nathan:

chair and I listed off several of my issues with the 1996 film Twister.

Nathan:

By the way, a film that I enjoy but don't love, and I talked about one,

Nathan:

one, you know, uncharismatic leading male in that movie, and two, too

Nathan:

many side background characters.

Nathan:

Three, paper thin character development, especially with the Paxton character

Nathan:

and the antagonist Jonas Miller.

Nathan:

And four, I didn't feel like the imminent danger with the tornadoes, it was

Nathan:

inconsistent and also very unrealistic.

Nathan:

And I'm here to say that Twisters fixes every one of those problems for me.

Nathan:

This is one of the best action films for me that I've seen in a long time because,

Nathan:

you know, it hits so many quadrants.

Nathan:

Number one, you like hot guys, check.

Nathan:

You like hot women?

Nathan:

Check.

Nathan:

You like action?

Nathan:

Check.

Nathan:

You like romance?

Nathan:

Check it reaches both YouTube audience in the country music, music audience.

Nathan:

Check you like sharp, really reaches the country music on you.

Nathan:

You like sharp, funny dialogues, you know, by wildly outrageous character

Nathan:

actors, check plus they brought in a more, a more diverse cast that didn't

Nathan:

seem forced setting and they set it in America's heartland, including

Nathan:

the lead singer of alternative rock band TV and the radio check.

Nathan:

Also.

Nathan:

Where Twister, you know, I thought was both a dark and dour film and look and

Nathan:

in tone, twisters is bright and upbeat, and even with the harrowing deaths.

Nathan:

In the beginning, spoiler, you know, we should mention

Nathan:

that we are a spoiler podcast.

Nathan:

This film is fun with a kinetic energy throughout.

Nathan:

It is so perfectly assembled and I'm certain it was produced

Nathan:

by AI just analyzing algorithms for the entire country.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

I loved this movie.

Nathan:

And not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it.

Nathan:

I think Glenn Powell is now a full fledged A lister.

Nathan:

He nailed this role in this movie.

Nathan:

The chemistry of the three leads I think is great.

Nathan:

I was unfamiliar with Daisy Edgar Jones before this, but

Nathan:

I thought she did a great job.

Nathan:

Anthony Ramos as well in this.

Nathan:

The three leads are all carrying this buried down trauma that I thought

Nathan:

was portrayed very well as well.

Nathan:

I like that the film uses our knowledge of the previous films, but in our expectation

Nathan:

of it, but it uses it against us.

Nathan:

You've got these rival storm chasers, the corporate funded group, and the

Nathan:

wild hell raising hippies, which is very much like the first film.

Nathan:

So the iconography is similar in this film and we begin to assign expectations

Nathan:

to the characters like this is going to be the Bill Paxton person, this

Nathan:

is going to be the Helen Hunt person.

Nathan:

This is going to be the Philip Seymour Hoffman person.

Nathan:

And so on.

Nathan:

These are the good guys.

Nathan:

These are the obnoxious douchey ones, but then the film does something completely

Nathan:

different and turns everything on its head halfway, which I did not expect.

Nathan:

I also went in with some concerns because the original Twister, you

Nathan:

know, story beats I, I was worried it was going to start duplicating that.

Nathan:

And this may would try to be like a direct sequel where Helen Hunn and Bill

Nathan:

Paxton's kids, we're, we're there, we're going to follow them in the Twister

Nathan:

was gonna like try to seek revenge.

Nathan:

We're gonna be in like a Jaws, the revenge territory.

Nathan:

Maybe the Twister was gonna follow Kate up to New York and

Nathan:

try to chase her down there.

Nathan:

Something really stupid.

Nathan:

I'm glad I did not do that.

Nathan:

I don't know, but even though You know, I, I did have some problems with the last

Nathan:

15 minutes of this movie and it, it didn't fully stick the landing at the very end.

Nathan:

It gets a little ridiculous, but it did not hurt enough.

Nathan:

Were this, were enough for me to, to, to not love this film, but it didn't,

Nathan:

but anyways, that that's all I have to say, but I think this is a perfect.

Nathan:

Summer blockbuster.

Nathan:

This is exactly what I wanted this summer.

Nathan:

I, there's, that's all I have to say.

Nathan:

So this is a, I would give this a 4.

Nathan:

5.

Bee:

Wow.

Nathan:

That's my rating.

Nathan:

So, there you go.

Nathan:

I, I've gushed enough.

Bee:

That's amazing.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

I gotta follow that, huh?

Bee:

Mm hmm.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

I really liked this movie.

Bee:

I don't think I loved it as much as you love it, but I had a great time.

Bee:

As you all know, I have been eagerly anticipating this movie.

Bee:

The trailer got me hype and.

Bee:

I'm a recent convert to the original Twister film.

Bee:

I hadn't seen it until just a few months ago.

Bee:

I watched it.

Bee:

I fell in love with it.

Bee:

I had zero expectations of the movie.

Bee:

And it came, comes out as like, one of my top movies.

Bee:

It's a four and a half for me.

Bee:

Huge fan.

Bee:

I think it's magic and it, it hits all the right beats.

Bee:

Twisters.

Bee:

2024 is a very competent movie.

Bee:

You are right.

Bee:

It's the perfect summer blockbuster.

Bee:

It doesn't do anything wrong.

Bee:

I also don't think it takes any chances.

Bee:

It has some interesting subversions of our expectations, but I think they

Bee:

almost do that so that they don't get criticized with being a copy

Bee:

and paste of the original 90s film.

Bee:

Because otherwise it's, it's very similar.

Bee:

The original twister.

Bee:

Felt new.

Bee:

It felt like they were trying different things with the love triangle with the

Bee:

practical effects, which of course, you know, I sort of gushed over the

Bee:

practical effects in our last episode.

Bee:

I know there's also an ass load of CGI in these movies, but they're

Bee:

blended a little more beautifully for me in the last film and our

Bee:

CGI has come a long way since then.

Bee:

And these twisters look very good.

Bee:

But I just think in its It's aimed to be so perfect it, it

Bee:

really doesn't take any leaps.

Bee:

And I found the whole thing falling a little bit flat for me.

Bee:

There are two things that I'm pretty bored with in the movies at this point.

Bee:

One are gigantic CGI town crushing set pieces.

Bee:

In the original Twister, everyone that falls victim to a tornado, we

Bee:

know we have an attachment to them.

Bee:

We have seen how many cities wiped out in the last 10 years and rebuilt and wiped

Bee:

out again and rebuilt and wiped out again.

Bee:

The final set piece just really didn't do it for me here.

Bee:

And then the other issue I have with this movie and the thing that I'm

Bee:

just bored with in movies in general, we see it a lot in the horror genre

Bee:

right now, this is coming up a lot.

Bee:

Our internal trauma as the antagonist.

Bee:

This is the thing that our characters, they always have

Bee:

to fight their own trauma.

Bee:

And that is the catalyst for any plot direction or movement in the story.

Bee:

And that does just suck out some joy you know, and, and some passion for it.

Bee:

And granted that.

Bee:

Definitely exists in the original Twister.

Bee:

You know, Joe's family was literally ripped apart by a tornado, but it just

Bee:

felt like the motivations were a little bit different or addressed a little bit

Bee:

earlier on and, and definitely didn't play as much of a role for as many of

Bee:

the characters in Twister as it does now.

Bee:

So.

Bee:

It fell a little flat.

Bee:

I thought it was really enjoyable.

Bee:

It is a perfect popcorn movie.

Bee:

I can sit there, have a great time.

Bee:

Glenn Powell looks amazing on screen.

Bee:

Daisy Edgar Jones, they had incredible chemistry.

Bee:

It was way more diverse.

Bee:

The casting I thought was, even though there's great casting in

Bee:

Twister, I did think this was better.

Bee:

Better, more robust, more well rounded and the characters really

Bee:

felt like they had a purpose.

Bee:

They didn't just feel like the actors who happened to give them

Bee:

a little bit more dimension.

Bee:

It felt like that was intentional and fleshed out in the

Bee:

script, which I really liked.

Bee:

It was funny.

Bee:

It could be really funny.

Bee:

It was a little too patriotic for me, but it did take place in Oklahoma, so

Bee:

it's hard to, to knock it down for that.

Bee:

You know it wasn't steak and eggs.

Bee:

It was a rodeo.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

But yeah, I liked it.

Bee:

I don't want to sound too cool on it.

Bee:

I definitely had a really enjoyable time.

Bee:

It just felt like another action blockbuster for me.

Bee:

It's okay.

Bee:

I give it like a three and a half.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Good take.

Bee:

Is it?

Bee:

I don't know.

Sam:

So, I think you guys both have really good points and I, it's, it's interesting

Sam:

cause, cause one aspect that I agree with Nathan is, is I do feel that surprisingly

Sam:

the characters and their, you know, dialogue and the chemistry Between the two

Sam:

of them was really, really, really good.

Sam:

I thought they, I thought the human element was strong.

Sam:

And the human element and the characters and their interaction was oddly enough,

Sam:

interesting left the best part of this film, whereas I felt the action and the

Sam:

twisters themselves and the set pieces, I definitely agree with B that it was more

Sam:

sort of standard CGI fully competent, but I did not have a sense of with, I

Sam:

will say there is an, is, and it's an opening scene where a massive twister

Sam:

is hidden by the fog and the wind.

Sam:

And I thought that was suspenseful and well done in general, I feel sort of like

Sam:

the set pieces in this film are solid, but they're more Sort of perfunctory.

Sam:

I see the thing for me is I love the 1996 Twister and I actually

Sam:

really like Bill Paxton in it.

Sam:

I think he's like perfect for that movie.

Sam:

I just, he just fits like I'm a Bill Paxton fan.

Sam:

So I'll say that Yeah, so Lee Isaac Chung does a great job with

Sam:

characters and their chemistry.

Sam:

The human side of this film is surprisingly developed.

Sam:

When it comes to the action, he is more than competent, yet it is perfunctory and

Sam:

random, set pieces just arriving here and there, scattershot, seemingly on a whim.

Sam:

The first film, the original Twister, Twister, excuse me, opens with this

Sam:

terrific menacing music by Mark Mancista and the Twister logo tumbles across

Sam:

the dark screen as the individual letters are blown about in a dark wind.

Sam:

And this is the opening.

Sam:

Opening title of the first film.

Sam:

The new film opens more like a TV movie where the title twisters just

Sam:

appears at an inopportune moment, appearing over a simple shot of our

Sam:

main character standing in a field.

Sam:

It has this moments and is perhaps worth a second viewing building up suspense

Sam:

and milking moments for me did not.

Sam:

quite feel like this director's forte.

Sam:

I feel like he had a really good handle on the human elements, but I

Sam:

feel like the scale, I did not feel like I have been to Oklahoma and it

Sam:

is a huge place with vast open skies.

Sam:

And you feel like you're exposed to the sky.

Sam:

And I feel like that sense of the landscape in the first film, in Yon De

Sam:

Bah, there's these wide shots of like we push in on Helen Hunt and build.

Sam:

Paxton arguing in a truck and a plane goes by and it's this

Sam:

massive wide coordinated shot.

Sam:

There's this spectacular photography on the first film and this like, and the

Sam:

cinematography in the first movie I love.

Sam:

Whereas the second movie does a good job and the special effects look realistic.

Sam:

But I, it's funny in this day and age, we now have access to all these like 1996

Sam:

original are just somehow more Awesome.

Sam:

I have a personal bias because that, that movie, when it came out, you bring

Sam:

a good point B about the special effects.

Sam:

We'd never seen anything like that in 1996.

Sam:

Like I remember just being blown away and this movie is good, but

Sam:

it comes out in a time where.

Sam:

We've seen massive destruction on an epic scale over and over and over again.

Sam:

And what was missing in this film, in the first film, the tornadoes were like

Sam:

characters like the shark and jaws.

Sam:

It was like hinted that there's this godly menacing presence in the sky.

Sam:

And in this movie, they were just weather, which they are, but a little

Sam:

bit of that epicness I felt was missing, but overall I enjoyed it.

Sam:

I thought Glenn Powell was excellent.

Sam:

I, I mean, I liked everyone in the film.

Sam:

And I would, I mean, I would give it a solid, like it's, it's not bad.

Sam:

It's not great.

Sam:

I put it right in the middle at three stars.

Nathan:

This is interesting because I was the, the biggest critic of the first

Nathan:

film and the most skeptical heading in and I ended up loving it the most.

Nathan:

It sounds like I

Sam:

love that first film.

Sam:

I have a real thing.

Sam:

I just, that experience was amazing.

Sam:

I hear you though.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

I think this sort of comes down to how much of a.

Bee:

At least for me, like, I'm such a sucker for that Spielberg ian kind of, like,

Sam:

Yes!

Bee:

Sense of awe, sense of wonder, that, like, like, very childlike

Bee:

perspective and, and hopeful storytelling.

Bee:

It's a little soft.

Bee:

It's, it's very, like, fairy tale esque.

Bee:

Yes,

Sam:

there's, like, wonder and terror and that, you know, like,

Sam:

Aunt Meg is very Spielberg ian.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

It's got that, it has that energy.

Sam:

This movie was like, I was, I liked the diverse cast and the new characters.

Sam:

Like I liked the characters.

Sam:

I just felt that the, the scale of the movie around them felt a little like

Sam:

the mood, it felt a little shrunken.

Sam:

Whereas I wanted to feel that grandiose feeling.

Nathan:

I mean, I agree that some of that magic.

Nathan:

That like touch Spielberg Magic is not, it's not in this, this is a much more like

Nathan:

scientific, like I said, I really feel like AI algorithms designed this movie to

Nathan:

please the most amount of people possible.

Nathan:

It has that I hear that.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

That's a good deal.

Nathan:

Totally.

Nathan:

I hear that.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

, yeah, it worked for me, which is not.

Nathan:

Typical.

Nathan:

I, I don't usually.

Nathan:

And I just feel

Sam:

like even though, even though I, I totally agree, B, like I found the last

Sam:

set piece very underwhelming except for some like visual, like cool moments.

Sam:

But there were some in the middle, like there's when they're going through a

Sam:

field and it's It's the what do you call it, the wind turbines and one of

Sam:

them like flicks off and like hits you.

Sam:

Yes.

Sam:

That was kind of cool.

Sam:

I like that stuff.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

I liked seeing inside the tornado.

Bee:

That was somewhere we haven't been.

Bee:

I thought that was an interesting experience.

Bee:

It

Sam:

is not without good intentions.

Sam:

Action.

Sam:

Like it's there.

Sam:

It's good.

Sam:

It's fine.

Sam:

I'm just, I was not just

Bee:

seen it before.

Sam:

Yeah, exactly.

Sam:

I just wasn't like wowed by it.

Sam:

And I did love the cast.

Sam:

And if, and if, if that script and that cast was married with like just

Sam:

the, a more wowier scope for the action or the it's, it's what it is.

Sam:

It's like, what's funny is the scale of twisters is huge.

Sam:

I mean, like the tornado, like catches fire in like an oil refinery.

Sam:

Like it's, it's insane.

Sam:

You know what I mean?

Sam:

But, but it's the way I feel like to me, what it was is a lot of set pieces

Sam:

in this movie that throughout them, as they're occurring, they're great, but

Sam:

I didn't feel the buildup of suspense.

Sam:

Like in the first film, there's a scene where like Philip Seymour Hoffman

Sam:

walks outside and then it cuts to some character dialogue in a bar and it cuts

Sam:

back to Philip Seymour Hoffman and the sky is green And darn, he's like going

Sam:

green and Bill Paxson is like greenage.

Sam:

And it's like, you feel like, Oh, a tornado is coming.

Sam:

Whereas this film, the tornadoes were spectacular.

Sam:

The effects weren't bad, but, but the scenes would arrive more

Sam:

perfunctory kind of like at the rodeo.

Sam:

It's like, there's a simple blowing of wind and it just

Sam:

starts, but I, I didn't feel like it could have been more suspense.

Sam:

I feel like the suspense could have been more milked in this film.

Bee:

I think, I think two, two things that sort of get to what you're talking

Bee:

about, where my frustrations of the movie are one, any sort of like Spielberg

Bee:

magic or magical realism, that feeling that happens in a movie of his, they

Bee:

just put into Daisy Edgar Jones and made her like a Manic Pixie nightmare.

Bee:

So I liked her character, but this whole like dandelion picking, I can

Bee:

tell when tornadoes are like, all right.

Bee:

And then the other thing is, I do think they sacrificed.

Bee:

I don't know if you can see it, but there was a lot of back and forth between

Bee:

how the main characters felt about tornadoes, like were they traumatized?

Bee:

Were they just scared regular?

Bee:

Scared because it's a scary thing.

Bee:

Were they excited about it?

Bee:

I felt like within one attack that would shift a lot.

Bee:

And then there was a lot of back and forth, like it would start very

Bee:

quickly and then they'd be safe, but then that same tornado, we'd be in the

Bee:

same thing and it would scale up again and then they would be saved again.

Bee:

And so it just felt like they sort of dragged on in this weird way.

Bee:

So I just thought the movie had some pacing issues.

Bee:

I

Sam:

agree with what you're saying.

Sam:

Like, I have a feeling that if I see it a second time, now that I know

Sam:

what it is, I'll probably like it.

Sam:

Enjoy it more.

Sam:

Like it's, it's decent, but you have a good point where I've only seen

Sam:

this once and I've seen twister, like 4, 000 times in the theater, like on

Sam:

cable over the past 20 years, like that movie is always on TV, so I've

Sam:

seen it like a billion times, but you talk about the pacing, how this movie,

Sam:

like, I did feel like the pacing would just kind of stop and be sort of slow.

Sam:

Whereas twister, I always felt the move, the whole movie is like on the move.

Sam:

It's like, they're on the road.

Sam:

The plot as cheesy as it is, like the screwball romantic comedy, it

Sam:

all unfolds while they're driving.

Sam:

Like they're constantly on the move.

Sam:

Like Twister has forward motion to it.

Sam:

Whereas this is like, all right, we're going to have an action scene and now

Sam:

we're going to do this and we're going to do that and whatever, you know,

Sam:

like it's, it's a more leisurely pace.

Sam:

It felt like, I think the

Nathan:

action scenes were.

Nathan:

in this.

Nathan:

I think I liked the, how the, the, the tornadoes and the, the

Nathan:

people are interacting with us.

Nathan:

That opening scene, I was, I was opening, it was riveting.

Nathan:

I mean,

Nathan:

they're going into that tornado blind and that's how I would expect.

Nathan:

It would be like going into a tornado where they can't see where they're going.

Nathan:

Things are hitting their car, causing real damage.

Nathan:

And there are stakes to this.

Nathan:

There's consequences to their hubris.

Nathan:

And I love how this goes out.

Nathan:

It fixes the problem where Everybody comes out alive,

Nathan:

unscathed, not a scratch on them.

Nathan:

And, and still, I think, I think the Daisy got out of this relatively unscathed with

Nathan:

just a scratch on her leg in the end.

Nathan:

But still, there are major consequences to, to what happened.

Nathan:

She loses three members of her crew.

Nathan:

And I love how this opens up.

Nathan:

I wish the whole movie, I want a version of Twister where, where more people.

Nathan:

Our diet.

Nathan:

And I do like the fact that there are civilian casualties in this.

Nathan:

We see it.

Nathan:

We see, even though we don't know these people, we are seeing, you

Nathan:

know, like the hotel manager or some of these other patrons come through.

Nathan:

I love the fact that this movie takes the liberty of showing what

Nathan:

happens to these stupid people that would drive, get in their car.

Nathan:

Then they could thinking they can outrun the tornado.

Nathan:

No get down flat.

Nathan:

Doesn't mean you're going to survive, but it increases your chances.

Nathan:

And it shows what happens when you don't listen to like the smarter people.

Nathan:

The experts.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

The pool scene I thought was really good.

Bee:

Those more intimate scenes I thought were so great.

Bee:

The car, the opening, but that what you're talking about with civilians,

Bee:

that pool scene, if it could have just been that the whole time, I

Bee:

think I would have liked it more.

Bee:

Several

Nathan:

of those scenes, the pool scene, the opening scene I mean,

Sam:

wait, what was the pool scene again?

Sam:

I, I'm missing

Bee:

the hotel where they go down into the the empty pool.

Bee:

The person that is

Nathan:

like complaining in the hotel is bill Paxton's son.

Bee:

No way.

Bee:

That's awesome.

Bee:

Oh, that's really fun.

Nathan:

Yes,

Nathan:

By the way, so we're going to the pool.

Nathan:

What pool has all these exposed pipes?

Nathan:

I was trying to think, I don't know, a single in ground pool that's got

Nathan:

all these pipes just lying around.

Nathan:

Like, yeah, God, that would be dangerous, wouldn't it?

Sam:

I will say that that opening set piece really was great, Nathan.

Sam:

I agree with that.

Sam:

I wish I like, like you were just saying, I wish the rest of the movie

Sam:

maintained that, like, level of, of.

Sam:

Intensity kind of because that that was really, really like the the

Sam:

perspective of that and then as they like get the data, they find out that

Sam:

like the column is like 70, 000 feet.

Sam:

And once you hear the data feedback, you just realize even though you can't see it.

Nathan:

There's like a monster behind us.

Nathan:

How is that even possible?

Nathan:

I was trying to This movie is big

Bee:

though.

Bee:

So, alright, few things to talk about that are outside of our review.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

Can

Nathan:

we

Bee:

talk about the trucks in this movie?

Bee:

Huh.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

What do we think?

Nathan:

By the way, I, I, I intense, like crazy, like, yeah, I, I own a, a Jeep Wrangler

Nathan:

and all I wanna do is just go offroading.

Nathan:

I don't, I don't listen to country music.

Nathan:

I don't like country music, but damn, I just wanna put, put, take all the

Nathan:

windows out, take the doors off, and I'm gonna put it, I have a GoPro.

Nathan:

I kind of wanna put it in my window and just like.

Nathan:

Put on some sunglasses, just go off roading and start a YouTube channel.

Nathan:

Like, I don't know what I'm chasing yet.

Nathan:

I don't know what I'm chasing yet, but I'm going to stop and get

Nathan:

a T bone and drink Coors Light.

Bee:

You'd call us five weeks later in a Kenny Chesney t shirt.

Bee:

I might.

Bee:

Way to go.

Nathan:

Back to the framerate.

Nathan:

That would be a good YouTube channel.

Nathan:

I want to see that.

Nathan:

Just driving across the country at, to, just scoping out drive

Nathan:

in theaters and hope, hope.

Nathan:

So, Maybe a tornado will come through.

Bee:

You both know that I live in a car culture household.

Bee:

I also have a Jeep Wrangler, but mine's from the nineties.

Bee:

Much like the better Twister movie.

Sam:

So I'm just putting like hillbilly music as you're talking about trucks.

Sam:

It's working.

Bee:

It's working.

Sam:

Yeehaw.

Sam:

Okay.

Sam:

Yeehaw, sorry.

Bee:

But One thing this movie gets really right is what I affectionately

Bee:

refer to as redneck tech.

Bee:

You know, where they just put the biggest, loudest, fastest things on

Bee:

the lightest frame they can and just see how fast and how far they can go.

Bee:

I mean, rockets off the sides of this truck.

Bee:

What?

Bee:

The bolts that will just screw into the ground?

Bee:

But that was really fun!

Bee:

Like, that was really fun.

Bee:

That was awesome,

Sam:

because that had energy and innovation, like, when he And character!

Sam:

And character.

Sam:

When their team shows up, they add, like, a sugar jolt to the movie.

Sam:

Yes.

Sam:

I did like how they referenced the original Twister when he, like, pulls

Sam:

out in front of them in traffic.

Sam:

Because they did that in the previous movie.

Sam:

And that had The good chaos energy to it.

Sam:

One point about

Nathan:

those drills.

Nathan:

He's auguring into the earth when a tornado passes over.

Nathan:

It is the dumbest thing ever.

Nathan:

Because you're driving a tornado.

Nathan:

Hopefully you don't go into some loose soil because you're dead.

Nathan:

How does he know?

Nathan:

He's Stopping right there, like drilling in.

Nathan:

What if he hits like a giant rock?

Nathan:

You're not going to survive, you know?

Bee:

How does he even get close enough to get to the tornado

Bee:

without being sucked up?

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I mean, it's, it's honestly, it's, it's one of the, it's, it's cool, but it's

Nathan:

also one of the dumbest things ever.

Nathan:

One

Bee:

of the dumbest things.

Bee:

And it really serves for the final 10 minutes of the film.

Sam:

Yeah, I will say that him like putting fire, fireworks into the

Sam:

tornado was incredibly crowd pleasing.

Sam:

Like that was truly hilarious.

Sam:

That was awesome.

Sam:

That was like a yee haw moment.

Sam:

Could you

Bee:

guys hear the, the woman next to me who just kept going, who

Bee:

was so anxious through that home?

Bee:

She was feeling tension in that movie.

Bee:

So, so clearly it did get across to some folks, but she was, Oh my God.

Bee:

Oh my God.

Nathan:

There's something else I want to mention because I don't know, I'm not a,

Nathan:

I'm not a woman, but there is, I think, some offensive use of mansplaining in

Nathan:

this movie that I thought was hysterical.

Nathan:

Oh,

Bee:

you mean when he goes in and finds her homework and is like, you

Bee:

could have just fixed it like this.

Bee:

Well, the first one is when

Nathan:

the Anthony Ramos character and, and Kate are in the cafe and

Nathan:

he's explaining how our tornado works.

Nathan:

Number one, like this is our tornado.

Nathan:

He takes a glass of water.

Nathan:

This is the tornado.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

I think she knows.

Nathan:

And this is how you triangulate something and he takes the maple syrup or barbecue

Nathan:

packets and she's like, Oh, I get it.

Nathan:

Like it's obviously for the audience, but it was like the most, it was

Nathan:

like the dumbest explanation ever.

Nathan:

I'm telling you, she's admitting pixels.

Bee:

She's like a perfect PhD scientist who has enough trauma to

Bee:

need more people in her life, but she also likes to chase tornadoes.

Bee:

And by the way, she can like cook and grow up on a farm.

Nathan:

There's like three scenes where someone explains to her

Nathan:

how tornadoes work and it's like, Mike, this woman's like a genius.

Nathan:

She knows everything, like a lot about weather and people are

Nathan:

explaining tornadoes to her and like how some basic science works.

Nathan:

You, by the way.

Nathan:

I want to jump ahead.

Nathan:

This movie is kind of has a lot of techno jargon babble in it,

Trailer:

which

Nathan:

I, I, I, I dug it to what, and this, what I really did like though,

Nathan:

is that never did I feel like I was playing catch up with any of it.

Nathan:

It was just the right amount.

Nathan:

To keep, you know, the audience briefed to what's going on, make the character

Nathan:

sound smart, but also the audience's eyes.

Nathan:

Mm-Hmm.

Nathan:

, you know, not glazing over either.

Nathan:

So I thought it was really, really good screenwriting the way that,

Nathan:

that, the way that was performed.

Nathan:

So I, I liked it a lot.

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

I'm with you

Bee:

. Sam: So I, yeah, I, I mean I I.

Bee:

And I want to say, and I want to stress too, like, even though I

Bee:

wasn't, like, wowed by a lot of the action, it certainly was not bad.

Bee:

Like, there's nothing bad in this movie.

Bee:

There are just things that I've seen before and, like, done

Bee:

with more, like, spectacle.

Bee:

But, like, I did enjoy it.

Bee:

So inoffensive, inoffensive.

Nathan:

So I think we've got to talk about the, the finale, the end scene,

Nathan:

because as much as I did love this movie, I think we all are in agreement

Nathan:

that this final sequence, the final tornado, which is, it's like a 20

Nathan:

minute climax of this movie, it has.

Nathan:

It's not the best part of this film.

Nathan:

It has a very conventional ending, and there's some

Nathan:

really dumb things that happen

Sam:

in

Nathan:

this.

Sam:

It also felt to me like a good, like, middle of the film action set piece.

Sam:

Like, like, even though the scale was big, like, I feel like the final set

Sam:

piece could have just been something crazier, where they're like, they

Sam:

find their car surrounded by like a, like a circuit, like like six F

Sam:

fives close, you know what I mean?

Sam:

Like something, something more.

Sam:

I just, I was not too worried about them not surviving in this.

Sam:

Like I did not, the last set piece, I did not feel the danger as much, although

Sam:

there's some clever visuals, but like that to me felt like standard CGI mayhem.

Nathan:

One thing that the predecessor of this is when You've got Anthony

Nathan:

Ramos and Superman are out driving.

Nathan:

I'm going to call him and he kind of has a change.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

We find out a little more than halfway through this movie that

Nathan:

his, his group is work is they don't have the best intentions.

Nathan:

They are swooping in after these communities have been

Nathan:

devastated by tornadoes.

Nathan:

And they're working with some real estate mogul that's helping him buy this land.

Nathan:

So.

Nathan:

What he does is his partner, I forget his name, but I'll call him Superman.

Nathan:

He says, no, we got to keep, we have to retrieve the data from these radars.

Nathan:

And Anthony Ramos says, no, I'm going to go back and help my friends at the, in the

Nathan:

town because the tornado is heading there.

Nathan:

So he, I think this is funny.

Nathan:

And we talked about this afterwards is that.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

You go set up the thing and he lets him out of the car and he just ditches him.

Nathan:

I think in the path of the tornado in to die.

Nathan:

And I thought that was like hysterical.

Nathan:

I just

Bee:

assumed they had the rest of the crew behind them.

Bee:

I guess it was my assumption.

Nathan:

Does he have?

Nathan:

A way of communicating.

Nathan:

I don't know, but there's a freaking F5 headed their way.

Nathan:

I think it was, who knows if they, if they even survived.

Sam:

But that would have been funny if he had like a horrific death, like at

Sam:

randomly, like, this is such a brief non sequitur bear with me for one second.

Sam:

But I don't know if you remember in Jurassic world, when the assistant who was

Sam:

like babysitting the kids, she is like.

Sam:

Plucked up by, by like a pterodactyl.

Sam:

Then she like falls and is dropped into the ocean.

Sam:

Then she's plucked up again.

Sam:

Then a giant like fish eats her.

Sam:

Like it is a brutal death for no reason.

Sam:

And so tying it back in, it'd be funny if he left him on the side of the road.

Sam:

And then just some like flying piece of debris smashed into him.

Sam:

But that did not happen in the film.

Nathan:

So in the meantime, back in the town Glen Powell and And Kate are trying

Nathan:

to like rescue people into buildings and they send people in the theater.

Nathan:

Glenn Powell gets trapped under some debris and there's a water tower

Nathan:

that's collapsing about to fall on him.

Nathan:

And, and, and it's a Daisy, right?

Nathan:

She's trying to like pry him out.

Nathan:

And out of nowhere, out of nowhere, like, like Anthony Ramos knew exactly

Nathan:

where to go in town to find them.

Nathan:

And like, like, oh, this is, this is so conventional.

Nathan:

This is so tropey.

Nathan:

Like you're there just in time.

Nathan:

I mean, I mean, yes, this is what movies do.

Nathan:

I even think in the

Bee:

movie theater, there was some like, Was it a universal horror

Bee:

movie that was on the screen?

Bee:

Frankenstein.

Bee:

Frankenstein.

Bee:

It was Frankenstein, which

Nathan:

I think is appropriate.

Nathan:

I mean, the, the tornado is, I thought was,

Bee:

I thought that was really fun, that there was this like

Bee:

big monster movie on the screen.

Bee:

So the, I didn't, the tornado is

Nathan:

the monster, so.

Nathan:

Yeah, exactly.

Bee:

So it's like, that's really kind of fun.

Bee:

But I, I just thought it was a super cheesy ending to the point

Bee:

where the tornado winds up perfectly framed in the movie theater.

Bee:

It's, yeah, that

Sam:

was just like, that was overdone symbolism.

Sam:

I was like, yep, I get it.

Sam:

We're watching the movie of the movie.

Sam:

And the tornado is like

Nathan:

coming through and I'm trying to figure out, would this be cool if

Nathan:

I was watching it in 3D or in a 4DX?

Nathan:

Or is this really way too on the nose?

Bee:

Yeah, it was.

Bee:

It wasn't, and then

Nathan:

America will eat it up.

Sam:

And I like, I like the mood here, but I, but for me, I still like the,

Sam:

the shining in the drive through in the first film, the Kubrick, like

Sam:

playing in the background and like Jack Nicholson, like hacking the door as like

Sam:

the screen is ripped up and twister.

Sam:

Like I just, I like imagery more.

Bee:

Totally on point, but not necessarily on the nose.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

I do think.

Bee:

The whole Javi using leverage to rescue Glenn Powell, kind of a thing.

Bee:

I was, I was just like, It's a callback,

Nathan:

it's

Bee:

a callback too, because it

Nathan:

happened.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

Yeah, I know.

Bee:

And I was like, I didn't really, really feel anything.

Bee:

I don't know.

Bee:

It w it didn't sing to me.

Bee:

But much like the original Twister I did really like the scenes at the farm.

Bee:

I like the scenes at Daisy, Edgar Jones's mom's house.

Bee:

I thought those were, yeah, I liked those scenes

Sam:

too.

Sam:

I thought those were good.

Sam:

And I wanna say, yeah, Daisy, Edgar Jones, I was, I thought she was really good.

Sam:

She did great and I was surprised.

Sam:

Not surprised, but like in the trailers, the first trailers for

Sam:

the film, that was very sort of Glen Powell centric and she was in it.

Sam:

But you didn't have a sense of what she would be like?

Sam:

I was surprised by their chemistry, and I thought her performance was like.

Sam:

Excellent.

Sam:

So like character wise, the two of them love, love the characters.

Sam:

Like if they, if they, if, if this does really well and they do, and

Sam:

then the two of them gang like team up for another twister adventure,

Sam:

like I'll be at the theater, you know,

Nathan:

what would the third one be called?

Sam:

Twistersers,

Nathan:

Twisterers.

Nathan:

I think Thristers.

Nathan:

Thristers.

Nathan:

Thristers, yeah.

Nathan:

With a three instead of the T.

Nathan:

Or like a

Sam:

dumb like like with a colon like Twisters Dominion or something.

Bee:

Yeah, I'd like if they went the Fast and Furious route and made no sense.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

With all these, this subsequent naming of films.

Sam:

Twisters in da house.

Trailer:

Mm

Bee:

hmm.

Nathan:

What's really funny is, you know, the, one of the, the, the bigger quotes

Nathan:

from the, the trailer, you know, the, you don't face your fears, you ride them.

Nathan:

The context of that takes out a whole new meaning.

Nathan:

I think it, when you see the movie, that takes place in the

Nathan:

rodeo when they're looking at each other and damn, you see this.

Nathan:

And now I'm thinking like.

Nathan:

This is like an invitation of sex right now is what that really means.

Nathan:

Oh yeah, it's still a horny

Bee:

movie.

Bee:

I like that they kept the horn from the original movie.

Bee:

That did work.

Bee:

I thought that was pretty good.

Bee:

That's,

Nathan:

yeah, that was clearly.

Nathan:

You know, I have

Bee:

to knock this down to a three.

Bee:

I'm so sorry.

Bee:

The more we talk about it, the less I like it.

Bee:

That's okay.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

You just officially joined the, the Sam club.

Sam:

Cause as you know, I will like, I shop there, take off

Sam:

or add stars at Sam's club.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Hey, I didn't realize that, but now I did.

Sam:

I actually am a member of Sam's club and I can go in and enjoy the discounts.

Sam:

I do get discounts.

Sam:

So check them out and go find your local Sam's club.

Bee:

Yeah, no, it's not a great, fine.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

I don't know.

Nathan:

I don't have anything else.

Nathan:

Really.

Nathan:

I'm looking at my, I definitely don't have anything else to say about this.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

I, I'm glad I saw this.

Nathan:

I'm glad that we, we I'm glad we saw it together.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

I'm glad we got to see this together.

Nathan:

I had a, I had a fun time.

Nathan:

I had a really fun time watching this.

Sam:

Potential title for the third one, Twister's Epitaph.

Sam:

Whoa, heavy, heavy shit going down in this movie.

Nathan:

Oh, last thing I would just mention, I, I do think it

Nathan:

was really smart not to include a strong message of climate change.

Nathan:

In this movie, it's like not even anywhere near this, you know, people going to this

Nathan:

movie, don't care about climate change.

Nathan:

They just want to be entertained.

Nathan:

And I was interested to see if that was going to be a theme

Nathan:

of this, but not a whiff of it.

Nathan:

So I don't know if you guys had a thought on that.

Sam:

I did.

Sam:

I thought, I thought, yeah.

Sam:

I mean, like, There wasn't really a need, like they addressed that.

Sam:

I think I read somewhere an article.

Sam:

They didn't want it to be like a message film.

Sam:

Like they're making a blockbuster.

Sam:

And plus they don't need to talk about climate change.

Sam:

Cause clearly there's a lot of dangerous tornadoes.

Sam:

So like the climate change speaks for itself.

Nathan:

It doesn't need to be in a movie.

Nathan:

It's exactly around.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Decide for yourself, you know, you know, we don't need, we don't

Nathan:

need a movie, especially a, a summer, you know, action movie.

Nathan:

This isn't the day after tomorrow,

Bee:

which I enjoyed.

Bee:

This movie was really pandering to the heartland in a way

Bee:

that would have Not worked.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

Had they included that messaging?

Nathan:

Yes.

Sam:

All right.

Sam:

It would not work if they included that messaging and it'd be very like

Sam:

condescending if imagine if they had like a climate change explanation in the middle

Sam:

of film, you know, in the first Jurassic.

Sam:

Park where there's that cartoon of how they discover the dinosaurs do that.

Sam:

And they do a climate change and Glenn Powell's like, get this.

Sam:

So the Arctic's clear.

Bee:

Kate learns about it for the first time.

Bee:

Exactly.

Sam:

Exactly.

Sam:

What?

Sam:

Wow.

Bee:

They didn't go over this in PhDs.

Nathan:

All right, let's take a quick break.

Nathan:

Thank you for dialing in to our transmission.

Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

So we are coming back to for a conclusion of our review and our verdict.

Nathan:

And yeah, I'm going to go first.

Nathan:

So, like I said before, I love this movie.

Nathan:

I think this is the the perfect summer.

Nathan:

Blockbuster popcorn movie.

Nathan:

But what's weird is that this is still not a perfect movie,

Nathan:

even though I gave it a 4.

Nathan:

5, I would not say this is like, Amazing.

Nathan:

It's got a lot of flaws, but if you know, we're going to, I forgot to mention

Nathan:

this at the top of the show, we're going to do our top five disaster films.

Nathan:

I don't even know if this would make my top five, even it might be recency

Nathan:

bias, you know, that I, I might, I, I, it's hard to, it's hard to say,

Nathan:

but I think a lot of these other ones, I might not put it in there, but I

Nathan:

had a damn good time with this movie.

Nathan:

So I have, I have a suspicion where this might be going with you two guys.

Nathan:

So I'm going to say, I guess I want to say maybe it goes in.

Nathan:

Can I do that?

Nathan:

No, no,

Sam:

we need her.

Sam:

We need to sit.

Sam:

We don't have a sound effect for maybe the maybe sound effect is like,

Nathan:

yes, I'll put it in there.

Nathan:

I'll put it in.

Nathan:

Cause.

Nathan:

I do want to see it again.

Nathan:

I really do.

Nathan:

Okay.

Bee:

I'll take it right back out.

Bee:

I It was good.

Bee:

It was a good movie.

Bee:

It's fine.

Bee:

We're going to have other stuff to watch.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

Okay.

Sam:

I enjoyed it.

Sam:

I liked it.

Sam:

I solidly enjoyed the movie.

Sam:

But I will take my chances and I will say no to putting it.

Sam:

In the vault.

Sam:

In the hopes of when the nuclear fallout subsides, maybe one day when I can venture

Sam:

forth safely outside again, I'll find a copy and be reunited with the film.

Sam:

So never say never, but I don't need it in the vault with me.

Nathan:

Sam, this is unprecedented.

Sam:

It's, it's, it's, it's an unprecedented summer.

Sam:

Maybe, maybe, maybe you need,

Nathan:

maybe you need this.

Trailer:

If you feel it, raise it!

Bee:

That really is such a vibe.

Bee:

That really is such a vibe, though.

Nathan:

All right, well, I think The decision has been made.

Sam:

I love that sound.

Sam:

I love how damning that sound effect is.

Sam:

It's like, get out of here.

Trailer:

All

Nathan:

right.

Nathan:

Twister's not saved in our vault, but that's okay.

Nathan:

It's okay.

Nathan:

No, I, I understand.

Nathan:

There's, there's, there's better movies.

Sam:

And just because I didn't save it, that doesn't, just because it

Sam:

isn't, just because I didn't save it, doesn't mean that I hate it.

Trailer:

One tiny spark becomes a night of blazing suspense as the world's tallest

Trailer:

building becomes the Towering Inferno.

Trailer:

Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred

Trailer:

Astaire, Susan Blakely, Richard Chamberlain, Jennifer Jones, O.

Trailer:

J.

Trailer:

Simpson, Robert Vaughn, and Robert Wagner.

Trailer:

Erwin Allen's production of The Towering Inferno.

Trailer:

See it for Christmas at a theater near you.

Trailer:

Rated PG.

Nathan:

We have something new this week.

Nathan:

We are going to do our top five.

Nathan:

Favorite disaster movies, and this is not just like the 90s.

Nathan:

This could be from the entire history of movies.

Nathan:

We're going to use the term disaster movies loosely.

Nathan:

I specifically said not just natural disasters.

Nathan:

So do with this what you may, you know, this is have fun with this.

Nathan:

This will not be on your tombstone.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

This list.

Nathan:

So.

Nathan:

We did not like figure out who's going to go first on this.

Nathan:

So how should we do this?

Nathan:

Do you want me to go do the same order?

Nathan:

Stay the same order?

Nathan:

Same order?

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

So, by the way, do we need, what is a disaster movie to you guys?

Nathan:

And any, any rules to this that you think?

Nathan:

That you've only ruled

Sam:

that I had in my head was there has to be significant

Sam:

destruction of some sort in the film.

Bee:

Yeah,

Sam:

it's a good rule.

Bee:

That is a good rule.

Bee:

I kind of interpreted it as natural disaster, but hearing this now, I'm like,

Bee:

Oh yeah, I could definitely open that up because I wanted to go in to a little

Bee:

bit more sci fi or even animal, you know, so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

Bee:

We'll, we'll all learn my top five.

Bee:

All right.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So I guess we'll go, we're still from five to one, my number five.

Nathan:

I went with Knowing, the 2009 Alex Proyas film starring Nick Cage, Rose Byrne

Nathan:

Nick Cage is a professor who discovers a time capsule from 1959 containing

Nathan:

a mysterious list of numbers and I think he realizes he can predict it.

Nathan:

Dates and death tolls and coordinates of major disasters over the past 50 years,

Nathan:

including some that haven't happened yet.

Nathan:

I know this movie has some, yeah, it's got some decent special effects.

Nathan:

I've always enjoyed Alex Proyas as a director, even when he swings and misses.

Nathan:

The ending of this movie is not great, but I still think it's

Nathan:

worth worth the ride, I think.

Nathan:

So yeah.

Nathan:

Knowing, from 2009, is my number five.

Nathan:

Nice.

Nathan:

That's a good choice.

Nathan:

Okay, thank you.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Sam,

Sam:

do you like Knowing?

Sam:

I do, but I haven't seen it in so long.

Sam:

I just remember there's an impressive and creepy plane crash in that movie.

Sam:

Yeah, the plane crash.

Sam:

Across the highway.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Sam:

I do remember that.

Sam:

I would have to go back.

Sam:

I remember enjoying it, but it's been a while.

Nathan:

So

Bee:

I have one for my number five, and I'm not sure if you could really

Bee:

classify it because the, this is a genre that can be a little tough for me.

Bee:

But I have a backup.

Bee:

So if you guys are like, kick this movie out of here, I hear you.

Bee:

I

Nathan:

have my, my, my finger on the purge button here.

Nathan:

So, Sure.

Bee:

I was in Spielberg frame of mind, War of the Worlds, got a lightning storm.

Bee:

Yeah.

Trailer:

Yes.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

Yeah.

Nathan:

All

Bee:

right.

Nathan:

We'll take it.

Bee:

I love this movie.

Nathan:

It's got a

Bee:

badass lightning storm.

Bee:

Well, you

Nathan:

weren't here when we reviewed it.

Nathan:

That was like last spring.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

No.

Bee:

Yeah,

Nathan:

we did.

Nathan:

That was one of our early Spielberg retrospective films.

Bee:

Oh, yeah.

Bee:

I love this movie.

Bee:

I think it's great.

Bee:

I don't know what you guys think of this movie, but now I want to find out.

Nathan:

You know what though?

Nathan:

I could tell you this.

Nathan:

It was not voted into our vault.

Bee:

Really?

Bee:

No.

Bee:

We did

Nathan:

that retrospectively.

Nathan:

Zoinks.

Nathan:

Yep.

Nathan:

Sam, what is your number five?

Sam:

Boy, this is tough.

Sam:

I have been oscillating and like this list may be subject to change

Sam:

in the future, but I'd say my number five is Greenland, starring

Sam:

Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin.

Sam:

And this movie is the antithesis of Don't Look Up.

Sam:

It is a gritty, brutally realistic and terrifying and harrowing first Person,

Sam:

almost family account of a, of a family that is just like living their life

Sam:

and they get a presidential alert on their cell phone that they need to

Sam:

like report to this location so that they can be transported to Greenland.

Sam:

And like literally a comet is, is coming and it's broken off into

Sam:

pieces and the government has sort of hidden how dangerous it will be.

Sam:

But destruction starts happening in the distance.

Sam:

But this is not the film where like people outrun fireballs and

Sam:

there's cheesy, unrealistic effects.

Sam:

Everything that happens in this movie is grounded and terrifying and psychological.

Sam:

And the tapestry, the canvas is very up close and personal.

Sam:

Harrowing movie.

Sam:

Greenland.

Sam:

I've never heard of this.

Sam:

I think you would.

Sam:

I think you would really like it because yeah, check it out.

Sam:

It does not fall into the blockbuster trap.

Sam:

It feels like a documentary of.

Sam:

A couple and a family trying to get to an airport and just their

Sam:

grounded, terrifying adventure.

Sam:

And like, just, I was mesmerized by this movie.

Sam:

So that would, that would be on there.

Nathan:

I never checked this out because I saw Gerard Butler on the cover of it.

Nathan:

And I figured this is just action schlock.

Nathan:

So definitely

Sam:

not.

Sam:

It is different.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

I thought

Sam:

the same thing.

Sam:

It is.

Sam:

It was surprisingly good.

Sam:

Like,

Nathan:

But I agree with you.

Nathan:

I've only heard amazing things about this, but that was my initial opinion

Nathan:

about it when I saw this, but I have hearing the same thing you're saying, Sam,

Nathan:

is that this is much better than that.

Nathan:

And I was just seeing that there is a sequel coming out in

Nathan:

a couple soon called Greenland Migration also with Gerard Butler.

Nathan:

So

Sam:

really?

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Oh, that is

Sam:

great news.

Sam:

I did not know that at all.

Sam:

That is the first I've heard of that.

Sam:

And like, I can see how they would continue the story,

Sam:

and that is spectacular.

Nathan:

Same director, too.

Sam:

Awesome.

Nathan:

Cool.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Alright.

Nathan:

Day made.

Nathan:

Day made.

Nathan:

Alright, so we're moving on to our number fours of our top

Nathan:

five favorite disaster movies.

Nathan:

And I have

Bee:

it on good authority, Nathan's is Snakes on a Plane.

Bee:

Is that right?

Bee:

You know, I know

Nathan:

I never thought about that, but let me

Sam:

guess your number for your number four is of disaster movies,

Sam:

a different kind of disaster.

Sam:

The box office disaster of caddy shack too.

Bee:

I did think about doing box offered

Sam:

G Lee woo.

Nathan:

So this one is one of the OG disaster films.

Nathan:

It came out in 1972 is directed by.

Nathan:

Christopher, I think Nimi and Nemi the film laid out the blueprint

Nathan:

for the huge ensemble cast that, that many other disaster films of

Nathan:

the seventies would soon adopt.

Nathan:

Typically a cast of actors way past their prime or, or ex athletes,

Nathan:

whomever they could get to show up the movies, the Poseidon adventures, it's

Nathan:

actually one of the best of these.

Nathan:

It was Eric.

Nathan:

Gene Hackman is the lead, and he's really great in this.

Nathan:

God, I'd watch Hackman

Bee:

in anything.

Nathan:

The whole, the whole cast is great.

Nathan:

You got Ernest Borgnine, Red Buttons, Shelley Winters, who actually was

Nathan:

nominated for Best Supporting Actress.

Sam:

Leslie Nielsen.

Nathan:

Leslie Nielsen, Roddy McDowell.

Nathan:

You know, basically, if they weren't on the set, That day, they were probably

Nathan:

taping an episode of Hollywood Squares.

Nathan:

That's how I always look at it.

Nathan:

There's so much suspense in this.

Nathan:

Basically, all the passengers are trying to escape a capsized

Nathan:

ocean liner hit by a rogue wave.

Nathan:

Exactly what I want to think about as I get ready for my first cruise next week.

Sam:

I will say, I love the Poseidon Adventure.

Sam:

And the, I, when the rogue wave appears and the suspense building up that I

Sam:

still find that absolutely terrifying.

Nathan:

Yeah, it's a sad adventure in my number four.

Nathan:

Beast!

Bee:

Alright, well, we know I like my movies two ways.

Bee:

Wet and schlocky.

Bee:

Big fans.

Bee:

Love Jason Takes Manhattan.

Bee:

Love Jason Takes Manhattan.

Bee:

Love Deep Blue Sea.

Bee:

No, my number four.

Bee:

Even wetter, even schlockier.

Bee:

We've gone all the way wet with Waterworld.

Bee:

Oh, no way.

Bee:

Cool.

Bee:

I ride for the cause.

Sam:

That movie has a great, great soundtrack.

Bee:

I saw this when I was a kid.

Bee:

You know, it came out in 1995.

Bee:

I watched it with my dad.

Bee:

I just have good, fun, nostalgic memories of this movie.

Bee:

I'm not going to say it's, it's the blueprint or the best of the

Bee:

best of anything, but I really enjoy watching it and still do.

Bee:

I have great

Sam:

nostalgia for it.

Sam:

I was Summer 95, I was 14 and I had, that movie was like epic and that's

Sam:

not actually, because of that movie, I read a review of that film and they

Sam:

said, well, not quite as terrifying as the world of Road Warrior.

Sam:

And I was like, Road Warrior?

Sam:

What's that?

Sam:

So Waterworld led me to Mad Max that summer.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

So 14 year old.

Sam:

Summer.

Sam:

Love that summer.

Sam:

That's a great summer.

Nathan:

So I, I regrettably did not have it.

Nathan:

I did not see it in the theater and I'm hoping that next year with,

Nathan:

I think it's its 30th anniversary next year that it will find its way

Nathan:

into a big screen somewhere near me.

Nathan:

It'd be so fun.

Nathan:

I would like to see it in the theater.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

It's just a really fun movie.

Nathan:

All right, Sam, what say you, you're number.

Sam:

So my number four a film directed by Mimi Leder starring Morgan Freeman

Sam:

and Tia Leone Tia Leone, excuse me, I'm referring to Deep Impact.

Bee:

I thought about this.

Bee:

This was like six, this was the one where I was like, if you guys don't

Bee:

like War of the Worlds, Steep Impact.

Sam:

I am a sucker for the tone of this movie.

Sam:

James Horner's score, May He Rest in Peace, is haunting and beautiful.

Sam:

End.

Sam:

I, this, this was the summer of comet movies, the summer of 1998.

Sam:

This came out first and then Armageddon came out later in the summer.

Sam:

Armageddon is the bigger hit, but scientists agree that this movie

Sam:

of the two is the more realistic.

Sam:

I love this movie.

Sam:

It's serious.

Sam:

It's scary.

Sam:

And it, I just find the way the script unfolds clever.

Sam:

So yeah, that would be my number four deep impact.

Sam:

It just, the, the implications of like the, what's the, the world being

Sam:

destroyed on that scale is terrifying.

Sam:

I just love the, the,

Nathan:

the human drama element of this movie.

Nathan:

I really, you get to know these, but Judd Hirsch in this is so many, so many.

Nathan:

sub stories in this.

Nathan:

It's really, it really is well done.

Nathan:

The effects are not that good in this though, but.

Sam:

They have not, they have not, some of them have not aged well, but

Sam:

some are good and there is still a hilarious shot of a tsunami like.

Sam:

overtaking New York.

Sam:

And there's this elderly gentleman reading a newspaper that is clueless.

Sam:

And this moment played at a, has a joke, even on the screen back

Sam:

then everyone was like, he's oblivious that the wave is coming.

Sam:

So yeah, she, but some cheesy special effects agree.

Sam:

Some still hold up some not so great, but in general love the movie.

Nathan:

It's a good movie.

Nathan:

All right.

Nathan:

So, all right, so, up to me, my number three.

Nathan:

So my number three is The Impossible from 2012.

Nathan:

This is directed by J.

Nathan:

A.

Nathan:

Bayona and it's starring Naomi Watts, Ewan McGregor, and there are a couple, actually

Nathan:

parents, who are vacationing in Thailand in December of 2004 when the infamous

Nathan:

Hit the coast causing incomprehensible devastation to the country.

Nathan:

This is a harrowing story and will exhaust you.

Nathan:

I can't believe I haven't seen this.

Sam:

I gotta see this.

Nathan:

Yeah, it's great.

Nathan:

I've definitely seen this.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

So, the scenes where the tsunami first hit are incredible.

Nathan:

The effects still, I mean, this is a 12 year old movie, it's still incredible.

Nathan:

I know much of it is CGI, but it's clear that a lot of these

Nathan:

actors spent hours on it.

Nathan:

Hours, days in the water filming these scenes and it looks,

Nathan:

it looked like a rough shoot.

Nathan:

Very good film.

Nathan:

One of the better disaster films for sure.

Nathan:

So yeah.

Nathan:

Wow.

Nathan:

Definitely check that out.

Nathan:

It is really good.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Cool.

Nathan:

That's my number three.

Nathan:

Be your number three.

Bee:

My number three.

Bee:

Is a little movie you might've heard of.

Bee:

Oh,

Nathan:

go ahead.

Bee:

It's just about two love struck kids in Oklahoma.

Bee:

Just chasing things they love.

Bee:

It's Twister.

Bee:

Woo.

Bee:

I can't say any more about it.

Bee:

I've said so much about Twister in the last 72 hours,

Bee:

but big fan.

Nathan:

Big you are.

Nathan:

All right, Sam, what is your number three?

Sam:

My number three is the wildly entertaining and hilariously

Sam:

ridiculous and over the top massive spectacle, Roland Emmerich's 2012.

Sam:

I unapologetically Love this, this guilty pleasure, epic film starring

Sam:

John Cusack hilarious over the top performance by Woody Harrelson as

Sam:

a guy who's just like lost it, but the scale of this movie is amazing.

Sam:

Basically the like Earth's It's crust starts to shift and they're

Sam:

like tectonic plates lose their position because of solar flares.

Sam:

So like Los Angeles just sinks into the ocean.

Sam:

There's huge tsunamis.

Sam:

There is spectacle after spectacle in this movie that is just nuts and ridiculous.

Sam:

And I love it, including a giant arc that's like lost control of

Sam:

its engine and in rising waters.

Sam:

They have to turn or they're going to crash right into

Sam:

the face of Mount Everest.

Sam:

Sublimely ridiculous.

Sam:

I remember when this

Bee:

came out.

Bee:

Yeah, I

Sam:

do love it.

Sam:

I do love it.

Sam:

So that'd be my, my number three.

Sam:

It's

Bee:

good choice.

Bee:

It's not a good choice.

Bee:

It's terrible choice, but I support you.

Nathan:

We still love you, Sam.

Bee:

We do.

Sam:

I'm aware of its quality level, but I, I, Hey man, I chose

Bee:

water world.

Bee:

You gotta go with what you love.

Nathan:

It's fine.

Nathan:

If you feel

Bee:

it, chase it.

Nathan:

Well You can make fun of me for this next one because you, you

Nathan:

got, you got 2012, you know, this one, you may have heard of it too.

Nathan:

It was a little movie and I debated if it, this is a disaster film or not, but

Nathan:

yeah, it is because the last hour of this movie is about as intense as it

Nathan:

gets as the RMS Titanic slowly sinks into the Atlantic on April 15th, 1912.

Nathan:

Say what you will about this movie.

Nathan:

I know there are haters out there, but I think Titanic does so brilliantly.

Nathan:

It's a great one.

Nathan:

That's what really is that James Cameron lets us indulge in the world

Nathan:

of living on the ship for two hours.

Nathan:

We get to know the geography and more probably we spend time

Nathan:

with all of these characters.

Nathan:

Not just the two leads, but all, you know, the people that work

Nathan:

on there, these various people.

Nathan:

I refuse

Bee:

to let the internet make us think liking Titanic is a hot take.

Nathan:

It's a good movie.

Nathan:

It is.

Nathan:

It is an excellent film.

Nathan:

But because we spend all this time, we are invested in the survival of

Nathan:

these characters down to the most minute character in this film.

Nathan:

It is why Titanic is such a riveting film.

Nathan:

And that last hour is still one of the best hours in cinema history

Nathan:

as that ship slowly goes down.

Nathan:

And of course, the extremely climactic ending as the liner

Nathan:

violently goes down at the end.

Nathan:

So Titanic is my number two.

Bee:

You know, it's a little bit of a wet movie,

Nathan:

a little bit.

Bee:

It's a little bit.

Nathan:

There might get wetter.

Bee:

I might get wetter.

Bee:

My number two, bigger, bigger, splashier, wetter movie.

Bee:

I love this movie.

Bee:

It's

Nathan:

another, we don't have anything that's overlapping yet.

Nathan:

This is crazy.

Nathan:

I don't know.

Nathan:

This is crazy.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Bee:

I think my number one might overlap with someone else's.

Bee:

Okay.

Bee:

But I love this next movie.

Bee:

It is another boating incident movie.

Bee:

It is, of course, a perfect storm.

Bee:

I think that I love this movie.

Bee:

It's so good.

Bee:

The whole cast is great.

Bee:

As a New Englander, I just felt this one like in my bones, you know.

Bee:

Another

Sam:

great James Horner score.

Bee:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's just great.

Bee:

It's a great character story.

Bee:

All the side actors are great.

Bee:

It's another great ensemble piece.

Bee:

You really feel the tension in this movie.

Bee:

I think it still looks good.

Bee:

I would watch this anytime.

Bee:

Throw it on.

Sam:

I love the like autumnal feel of that movie.

Sam:

It's like October 1991.

Sam:

The Grand Banks like, oh, it's epic.

Bee:

And it's like, it's based on real stuff.

Bee:

Yeah.

Bee:

You know,

Sam:

since we used to quote Mark Wahlberg in the show, I will quote

Sam:

a line from, from perfect storm.

Sam:

He's like, yeah, ma, I know the grand banks and no joke in October.

Nathan:

Love it.

Nathan:

Great pick the Sam.

Nathan:

What's your number two?

Nathan:

I

Sam:

mean, I spoke too soon about overlap but my number two is none

Sam:

other than the Poseidon Adventure.

Sam:

You discussed it already.

Sam:

I love that movie and Leslie Nielsen in a serious role.

Sam:

This is before his comedy extravaganza.

Sam:

I find this movie, I saw it as a kid and I just find it terrifying and riveting.

Sam:

And like, even though some of the visual effects are old and clearly,

Sam:

sometimes you're looking at models, it is so well done and so involving.

Sam:

I love it.

Sam:

And there is a really not so great remake called Poseidon in 2006, directed

Sam:

by Wolfgang Peterson, starring Kurt Russell, who does a great job, but

Sam:

like very, yeah, definitely a remake.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

Okay.

Nathan:

Wolfgang Peterson did Perfect Storm.

Sam:

Indeed he did.

Sam:

All right.

Bee:

Perfect.

Bee:

So I'm more like perfect movie.

Bee:

Fox just

Sam:

lifting, throw off your bow line, throw off or something else.

Sam:

You know what?

Sam:

You're a goddamn swords boat captain.

Sam:

Is there anything better in the world?

Nathan:

Sorry.

Nathan:

So my number one pick is I think the most broey movie on my list and it

Nathan:

has been mentioned already on here.

Nathan:

I'm sticking with boats.

Nathan:

This one isn't quite as large as Titanic.

Nathan:

It's been mentioned already, but it's the Andrea Gale believed to have gone down in

Nathan:

one of those violent weather occurrences in the Atlantic on October 1991.

Nathan:

Perfect Storm, George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg as Gloucester men.

Nathan:

Wait, Perfect Storm

Sam:

is your number one?

Sam:

Yes.

Nathan:

That's awesome.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

The men who get caught in a storm while returning home after a big haul of fish.

Nathan:

I think the special effects in this movie still did pretty good, you know?

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

They look good.

Nathan:

It looks good.

Nathan:

I love this movie.

Nathan:

I think George Clooney is fantastic in it.

Nathan:

It is rooted in that Massachusetts thing.

Nathan:

Oh, I love the Massachusetts like pathos, mythos to

Sam:

it.

Sam:

Like when it starts and like, she has the nightmare, the Warner Brothers logo,

Sam:

and you like see them coming back to the doc, you're like, ah, Gloucester,

Sam:

Gloucester, you know, it's so funny.

Sam:

That was so close to my, that was my number five.

Sam:

And then I thought of Greenland, but like, I don't know.

Sam:

I may have a deeper love for perfect storm, but I do love, I

Sam:

love, I do love perfect storm.

Sam:

I saw that in the theater that, and I liked it, but it

Sam:

grew on me over the years.

Sam:

It grew

Nathan:

on me as well.

Nathan:

And I just want to also highlight just the awesome cast in this.

Nathan:

They got other members.

Nathan:

You got John C.

Nathan:

Reilly, William Fichtner, who has made a career out of playing

Nathan:

swarmy people, swarmy characters, John Hawks in an early role.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Karen.

Nathan:

Alan and Diane Lane.

Nathan:

This is Michael

Sam:

Ironside.

Nathan:

Yeah, I was going

Bee:

to say Michael Ironside.

Bee:

No one in this movie is in a little bit swashbuckling.

Bee:

Again, it sings to my New England heart.

Bee:

If you got it.

Sam:

Yeah.

Bee:

And if you haven't read, I know she makes a cameo, but Linda Greenlaw is one

Bee:

of the, the Fisher, People, Fisher Woman, who this is all based on and she was

Bee:

there and yeah, you should check it out.

Bee:

Her books are great.

Bee:

Yeah, I have a copy of The Hungry Ocean.

Bee:

It's awesome.

Sam:

That's awesome.

Sam:

Like the end of that film is so emotional when Mary Elizabeth Mastery

Sam:

Antonio is like delivering the speech.

Sam:

Then it pushes into the Gloucester sign and James Horner gives you

Sam:

like the most new Englandy composed epicness . I'm gonna watch this tonight.

Sam:

Yeah, I might watch it.

Sam:

Two best line ever.

Sam:

Waking up and watch this Michael Watch party.

Sam:

Best line ever, Michael Ironside.

Sam:

I actually quote this movie a lot by myself.

Sam:

Sometimes I'll be in my car by myself and I'll quote Michael Ironside.

Sam:

He'll be like, I like you, Billy, but I like my boat better.

Nathan:

Love it.

Nathan:

All right, B, you're number one.

Bee:

Well, my number one, it's not a bro y movie, but it does

Bee:

have who I would consider kind of a swashbuckling bro at its heart.

Bee:

It is of course Dante's Peak.

Opening:

No way, that's awesome!

Opening:

I don't know

Bee:

how this hasn't come up yet.

Bee:

This is what's flooring me a little bit and I'm surprised.

Bee:

This is a classic movie.

Bee:

Another great cast, Linda Hamilton is in this, of course Pierce

Bee:

Brosnan is the heart of it.

Bee:

It's a great time.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

I love Dante's Peak.

Sam:

I need to

Nathan:

revisit

Sam:

this.

Nathan:

Between this and I will shamelessly

Sam:

Forgive me guys, but I will shamelessly plug Walks of World.

Sam:

Briefly, I visited Dante's Peak, the town of Wallace, Idaho.

Sam:

Walks of World, YouTube handle, Walks of World 1981.

Sam:

Check it out.

Sam:

Look for the Dante's Peak video.

Sam:

It's a million times

Bee:

more powerful than the atomic bomb.

Bee:

You know, like, it's just good shit.

Sam:

Is that your recipe for frog soup, Harry?

Sam:

No, that's my recipe for disaster.

Sam:

Sam.

Sam:

Down to you, your number one.

Sam:

So by number one, the most spectacular disaster film ever.

Sam:

And it's just like the apex that I cannot deny is my number one

Sam:

is indeed Titanic, number one.

Trailer:

Hey,

Sam:

yeah.

Sam:

I mean, you said it all perfectly, so I will not repeat it, Nathan.

Sam:

But last hour, Titanic sinking the characters, just the Cecil B.

Sam:

DeMille grandeur of that movie remains jaw dropping to this day.

Bee:

I wonder if I can find a way to make it sound like Babel.

Bee:

I'm trying to attach every movie.

Bee:

It's kind of like Babylon.

Bee:

Good movie.

Bee:

Kind of like Babylon.

Bee:

Titanic rules.

Bee:

Have, has anyone seen the Celine Dion documentary on prime?

Bee:

It's a really good job.

Bee:

Nathan, are you trying to watch more docs this year?

Bee:

It's worth it.

Bee:

I'm trying.

Bee:

It's a good one.

Bee:

I

Nathan:

haven't failed.

Nathan:

I'm trying.

Sam:

And the, the, the visual effects too, like when the, when the ship is

Sam:

like sticking up in the air and like, The electricity gets knocked out and you just

Sam:

see like all the lights go out and it's silhouetted against the stars and you

Sam:

like hear all these like muffled yells.

Sam:

It's just like that gave me the chills in the theater.

Bee:

If we didn't have Titanic, we wouldn't have the oops

Bee:

I did it again music video,

Sam:

right?

Bee:

That's important.

Sam:

That is important.

Sam:

That is true.

Sam:

It's just the scale, the grandeur.

Sam:

Like I just love, and I love that we get to spend time and, and the, the

Sam:

brilliance of that movie is that, you know, like this is, this happens only the

Sam:

first time you see it, but you know that.

Sam:

The iceberg is coming, but you don't know when.

Sam:

So you're like enjoying the characters and enjoying the drama.

Sam:

But like, you're always like, Oh, you, you sense you're like, is it coming?

Sam:

Is it not?

Sam:

Like, you know, disaster is not far off.

Sam:

It's like looming out there.

Sam:

That's what gives that movie the epic terror.

Bee:

I love Kate Winslet.

Bee:

I love

Sam:

her.

Sam:

She's amazing.

Sam:

I mean, James Horner, I'm a huge, I, you're talking about

Sam:

you know, Titanic, perfect storm.

Sam:

Both James.

Sam:

Horner composed films and like, he's my second favorite

Sam:

composer alongside John Williams.

Sam:

Like, I love James Horner.

Sam:

Like, he just, there's a, a melancholy, beautiful tone in a lot of his music.

Sam:

Score for Avatar.

Sam:

Exactly.

Sam:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Alright.

Nathan:

I think this is really great list.

Nathan:

We don't have, it's funny, we don't have a lot of crossover.

Nathan:

Perfect.

Nathan:

Storm was on two of our lists and Titanic crossed over a little bit,

Nathan:

but this was a very diverse list.

Nathan:

So this is And Poseidon Adventure.

Nathan:

Inid is right.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Pose beside adventure, but not, can I

Bee:

ask if either of you, so I took it out of my list because

Bee:

I consider it a monster movie.

Bee:

Not necessarily disaster movie, but based on our loose definition here.

Bee:

Did either of you consider Jaws?

Bee:

I

Nathan:

didn't because I, it was, I, this, this, the monster movie.

Nathan:

And then there's that.

Nathan:

So I did not, which would be the same thing, like alien, you know, like, yeah.

Nathan:

I tend to think of

Sam:

like large of destruction, you know what I mean?

Sam:

Like mass, like scale, like waves, ships, that kind of thing.

Sam:

Like, Volcanoes.

Sam:

Yeah.

Sam:

Like definitely Dante's Peak.

Sam:

I like Dante's Peak and A Perfect Storm a lot.

Sam:

I'm surprised they weren't on my top five.

Sam:

It's just when it's, I mean, a lot of those, those films

Sam:

would be in my top 10 for sure.

Sam:

When you got to narrow it down to five, I, it's like, I would want to watch Dante's

Sam:

Peak more than Greenland, but I think Greenland is a better, Film, and I have

Sam:

to acknowledge that, even though I have a stronger emotional attachment to Dante's.

Nathan:

My other criteria is I didn't include like movies that

Nathan:

had like deadly viruses, even though that could be a disaster.

Nathan:

Yeah, I just decided like, you know what?

Nathan:

I wasn't going to go there.

Nathan:

I thought of that like I thought of World

Bee:

War Z or 28 Days Later, but then I was like, those

Bee:

are kind of monster movies.

Bee:

Yeah, I

Nathan:

didn't do zombies or viruses or things like that.

Nathan:

But you know what, I wasn't going to like tell you guys what to do.

Nathan:

So, by the way, I, I wanted to do this.

Nathan:

I wanted to break down the themes of our disaster movies based

Nathan:

on kind of like, so wet list.

Nathan:

And now I, now I have the wettest list of all four out of my five movies

Nathan:

are water based beside adventure.

Nathan:

The impossible Titanic and perfect storm are all water based movies,

Nathan:

except for knowing, which is kind of like apocalyptic type, you know, thing.

Nathan:

B, you're the most diverse of all of us.

Nathan:

You have an alien invasion, two water themed movies, one

Nathan:

volcano movie, one tornado movie.

Nathan:

Sam, also relatively diverse list, two asteroid comet themed movies,

Nathan:

two water themed movies in one movie.

Nathan:

I guess like Earth fighting back, like 2012 is I guess like, you

Nathan:

know, apocalyptic Earth movie.

Nathan:

So yeah, also pretty diverse.

Nathan:

I was the one that was really in the water.

Nathan:

I was the wettest.

Nathan:

You were.

Nathan:

You were swimming.

Nathan:

And yours

Sam:

was very oceanic.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

It's not intentional.

Nathan:

I think maybe we just know how to tell ocean stories the best, maybe.

Sam:

I love ocean stories.

Sam:

And we

Bee:

figured out CGI water pretty early on, you know.

Bee:

Still looks good.

Nathan:

CGI

Sam:

water definitely improved a lot better than CGI fire.

Bee:

Yeah.

Sam:

Okay, but I guarantee I will say this now in Avatar 3 since

Sam:

there's going to be a volcano in it.

Sam:

I guarantee you James Cameron will take CGI fire to the next level.

Sam:

Do we know that?

Bee:

Is there a volcano in it?

Bee:

Yeah, there's a volcano

Sam:

in it, and there's a culture of Navi called the Ash

Sam:

People, and they're antagonistic.

Bee:

Oh my god, I can't wait.

Bee:

I love Avatar so much.

Bee:

Me too, I love it.

Bee:

I totally love it, yeah.

Bee:

Oh my god.

Bee:

Put that into my veins.

Bee:

So good.

Bee:

I bought the Light Up Avatar popcorn bowl, and it's been like a true joy in my life.

Bee:

It's really great.

Bee:

I'll bring it to our next gathering

Bee:

. Sam: If you ever invent an avatar drug, you should call it Awa

Nathan:

Okay.

Nathan:

I think it's time to wrap it up before you, thats a wrap on disasters before.

Nathan:

I just wanna, yeah, so we're gonna be taking a couple weeks

Nathan:

off and coming back on the 12th.

Nathan:

Of August with our 80s summer comedies theme.

Nathan:

We're going to have three weeks of 80s summer comedy, starting

Nathan:

off with Ernest goes to camp.

Nathan:

Looking forward to that.

Nathan:

Yes.

Nathan:

So we're so me and B, we're taking vacations.

Nathan:

So we are we are recording from the future past.

Nathan:

I think when this episode.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

Yeah.

Nathan:

So we'll, we'll be back in a couple of weeks.

Nathan:

I may

Sam:

have to take a vacation as well.

Sam:

I did my vacation from my working vacation.

Sam:

I'm always trying to run away, so I might try to do something.

Sam:

I don't know.

Bee:

Let us know where you end up, man.

Sam:

I'll let you know if I go anywhere.

Sam:

We'll see.

Nathan:

All right, so this concludes our short two week mini retrospective

Nathan:

of Back to the Framerate enters the suck zone, as we briefly call

Trailer:

it.

Nathan:

And we'll be back in two weeks for 80 Summers Comedies

Nathan:

for the month of August.

Nathan:

Everyone you enjoy yourselves and I am gonna, I should really do my real wrap up.

Nathan:

That is our show this week.

Nathan:

Back to the frame rate is part of the Western

Sam:

Media Podcast.

Sam:

By the way.

Sam:

That's the end of the episode.

Sam:

I I forgot what I was going to say.

Sam:

I had a point that I thought was important to make and I really lost it.

Sam:

So I apologize.

Sam:

Was the point

Bee:

that it's the end of the episode.

Sam:

It was, but there was something about driving, driving somewhere.

Sam:

Damn it.

Sam:

I lost it.

Sam:

I'm just gone.

Sam:

Driving

Nathan:

in the end.

Nathan:

Drop it off in our socials, Sam.

Nathan:

When you think of it,

Sam:

right?

Sam:

Yeah, I'll

Nathan:

try.

Nathan:

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Nathan:

We also wish to thank Brian Ellsworth For a show opening on behalf of all of us.

Nathan:

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Nathan:

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Nathan:

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