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This week's episode includes news, retro gaming ports, and a discussion of fake products and the hazards of buying them.

Hosts: William Sikkens, Bill Snodgrass, and Gretchen Winkler

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Welcome to

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User Friendly 2.0 with host Bill Sikkens,

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technology architect.

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And this is User Friendly 2.0.

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Welcome to this week's show.

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Weclome Gretchen. Welcome.

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Bill. Hello there.

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So, you know, it's weird

how fast the year is going by.

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We're just talking about it.

It's our 10th week already, and.

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But a lot of interesting things to cover.

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This week

we are going to be talking about face.

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A lot of listener

questions have come in about this.

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And it seems to be a problem

that's getting worse.

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And what this is referring to

is hardware devices that look just like

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and are sometimes sold for a price,

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just like the real thing,

but aren't the real thing.

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I ran into this myself,

and we'll talk about that a little bit

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and some of the problems

that this is creating.

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We're also going to be

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talking about something else,

a little bit of retro tech today.

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At the end of this segment,

listener questions have come in again.

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What are all the plugs on the bottom

of different video game console spawn?

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A lot of these haven't been used,

so they're kind of there.

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But, you know, it's a good question

and one that we are going to explore

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just a little bit.

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So that will be

what we are going to cover this week.

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And before we do all of that, let's go

ahead and see what's in this week's news.

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All right.

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Can friction maxing fix your focus.

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And what is that or I don't know Gretchen

what is picture focus

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I don't know about mine

because I needed to figure out

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what this even was

talking about. Like, I'm not.

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See what this is.

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BBC reporting on this and what they are

talking about is the fact that technology

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is creating a situation

where we don't have the attention.

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Oh, I'm sorry, I was looking at something

else, the attention span that we used to.

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So, that being said, yeah,

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it is actually causing some problems

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and attention span is getting shorter.

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Critical thinking capabilities, weakening

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emotional intelligence,

fading, beetle memory getting worse.

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These are all sound like bad things,

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and there is still high levels

of stress and loneliness.

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And what's going on

here is the fact that we have

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modern technology,

especially with the onset of AI.

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We don't do a lot of our own

research anymore.

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Everything is done through electronics

and that kind of thing

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when it comes to this stuff.

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And what friction maxing is, is

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the idea of rebuilding tolerance

or inconveniences

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and then doing things that might be

a little bit old school, like reading,

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that kind

of a thing using analog solutions

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in my case, where I really ran into this

playing a cassette tape, somebody,

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it sent me.

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I really didn't have the patience

for trying to figure out where the time,

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or that was really something

I, I didn't even realize it until later

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because it's like,

this is really kind of annoying.

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I, I know,

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and it's something that was very much

the normal and nobody cared about,

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but that's just an example

of this type of thing.

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And some research has been done to this.

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And one of the best ways to handle

this is taking technology breaks again,

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going old school maybe on some things or,

doing an analog kit.

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You're going to go for a picnic,

bring a sketchpad, bring a book to read.

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Don't bring your phone, don't

bring your laptop, tablet.

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You know, that kind of thing.

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So it is another part of this.

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It's kind of a footnote.

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A study just came out that

in a lot of schools,

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high schools, middle

schools, that type of thing,

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instead of books,

they're giving the students Chromebooks,

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you know, which is a type of a laptop

computer or iPads or whatever.

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And they're finding that

that is affecting things, too,

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with critical thinking

and all that in schools.

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It's just not where it once was.

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So we don't want society to get,

you know, stupider,

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which could very easily happen

for lack of a better term.

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Right.

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But it could happen

with these type of things,

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is there are a lot of people

that are finding that really don't know

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how you would go to a library

and look something up

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in an encyclopedia, you know,

that's made out of paper or whatever.

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How do you find the phone number?

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Isn't this is not a new problem.

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When I was originally going

to become a school teacher.

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So I did a small stint with a middle

school teacher when I was in college.

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And she said that the children

are having a difficult time.

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Their attention span has been shortened.

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And she felt that

it was about the same amount of time

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between a television show, commercial

break, television show, commercial break.

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It was like

the kids needed the commercial break.

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They weren't able to concentrate

more than that amount of space.

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So and this was,

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80s when this lady was telling me this.

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So this has been building

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and building and building.

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Yeah. It's an ongoing problem.

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We're really seeing the end of the other

end of it.

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Now, one of the things is

you look at schools, schools have a budget

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and it actually costs less to use

electronics than to buy books every year.

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And the other things

that would be related to that.

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So, you know, from that standpoint,

it does solve some problems.

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But like what you're talking about

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with the commercial break

and timing yourself, that

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it's turning into these type of things

where there's a lot of distractions.

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Now, I know here in Oregon

and a lot of other places,

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the schools are requiring that students

have their phones off during the day.

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The idea of having a portable phone

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when I was in high school

would have been really weird, but,

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most do,

and there's a lot of good reasons for it.

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Safety, if you're stuck somewhere,

that type of a thing.

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And I think that having access to help

when you need it and access to

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communication when you need it outweighs

some of the disadvantages of this.

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But certainly turning the phone off

during the day while you're at school.

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And one thing they can do with school

electronics is be able to,

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you know, go through

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and figure out what is available

and what's not on these devices

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so that the students are

are not being distracted by social media

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and other things that would distract them

with their phones.

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But even so, it's still creating

a very different way.

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And critical thinking and other things,

and is creating a situation

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where there just isn't the focus

there used to be.

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So, you know, technology

solves a lot of problems,

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but this is one

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that I think

that we're going to have to work for

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is to make sure

it doesn't become a new problem.

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And unfortunately, a lot won't.

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Ram prices have skyrocketed

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by 200 to 300% in early 2026.

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Yeah, so if you needed to buy memory for

anything, you've probably noticed this.

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If you haven't, you will soon

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because the price of most technology

is going to go up.

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You do this pretty much anything

that is computerized electronics,

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not just your laptop, desktop

or phone, require memory.

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Even my 1986 pinball machine

I'm still restoring requires memory.

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It's just part of anything

that uses a microprocessor

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or microcontrollers

or even TTL logic, that kind of thing.

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And we saw a spike in memory prices

back in the late 90s.

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I remember that there were break

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ins at computer labs and stuff,

people stealing the Ram out of computers.

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And I have a funny feeling

we're going to see this again

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because what's happening here,

you said in the headline, is:

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5th July of last year, 32 gigabyte Ddr5,

which is, format of memory

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that's used in a lot of computers,

would be about 95 bucks.

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You could even get it for 80

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if you didn't care if the memory lit up,

which I don't, like.

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There's physical RGB

lights and stuff in this stuff, which,

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you know, it's kind of cool, I guess,

but it saves money not to do that today.

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That same hit is on and I found it.

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The cheapest was $350 for refurbished

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and retail prices were between 5 and $600

for the same thing.

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Not faster, not a different brand,

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same apples to apples comparison.

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In Europe, prices peaked in February

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of between 430 to €490.

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It is just really, really expensive.

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And then the other part of it too is even

finding it sometimes what's happening

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is memory allocations are limited

on what can be manufactured,

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and AI data center builds are getting this

where they're actually sending people

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to the manufacturers to buy everything up

before it even hits the market.

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Crucial, which is a brand that makes

a lot of memory, isn't even selling

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to the consumer market anymore.

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Just the data centers.

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And this type of thing is causing a huge,

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huge lack of supply,

which is what's running the prices up.

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And, you know, I was thinking I,

if my desktop I 128 gigs of Ram,

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for the purpose I run

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virtualization and, you know, do editing

stuff and I wait a little bit longer here.

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I could just sell the memory

and pay off my house.

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They're going to shoot themselves

in the foot, because if we don't

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have computers and electronic equipment

that we can use

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to access the AI type stuff,

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well, who's going to use it?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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AI is a bubble. It's going to pop in.

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Yeah.

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I don't think it's a nail on the head here

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a little bit too,

because that's the reason.

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You know common question is well why don't

they add varsity because of that reason.

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There will be eventually a point

that the sales of memory two

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AI data centers will stop

or at least slow down.

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And at that point,

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they don't want to have so much production

that there's a glut on the market,

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you know?

So that's that's where that's going.

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But it's creating this problem.

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All right.

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Meta workers say they're seeing disturbing

things through users smart closets.

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Yeah.

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This follows right

under the topic of creepy a little bit.

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Yeah.

When you think about what's going on here.

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So what this is referring to

is meta glasses, which is a product

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that Facebook has had out for a while

now, and it's basically a pair of glasses

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we've talked about on on the show

before that have a video camera on it,

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and you can take photographs

and you can take video with them,

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obviously with a video camera.

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Now I have a set of these,

we won't tell meta, but I,

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did a jailbreak on my

and redid the firmware a while back

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because I use them

for a different purpose now.

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But the idea of having that convenient

is something that is kind of cool.

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You just have the thing on the side

of the glasses and you're recording.

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But what a lot of people don't know about

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is these videos aren't

necessarily private, especially if you're

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sending them up to the meta

I for search or whatever reason.

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This is not done on your glasses

or your phone.

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It's sent out to a data center somewhere,

and that video is now accessible by,

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in this case, anybody that works for meta,

that has rights to that

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and what they're doing

is it's not necessarily nefarious.

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They do content review.

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So if you had things like,

you know, child pornography

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or something that someone was recording,

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the idea is just to be able to catch it

and shut it down.

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I think that is a very good thing.

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But what happens is, is

you have to have people that review

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this content

and these people are reviewing things.

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That is not something that I or hopefully

most of our audience

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would want to just look out

and as part of their job.

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And if they refuse to do it,

they don't keep the job.

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On top of that,

a lot of this is being sent overseas,

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so it's not even contained within

the United States, but things like people

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using the restroom or, you know, adult

activities, let's just leave it at that.

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That type of thing are getting

caught on video and having to be reviewed.

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And it goes a step further

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where things like dead bodies and abuse

and all that kind of stuff.

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And yeah, they find it, they filter it

and they are catching some people

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because they're doing this.

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But still, that kind of a position I think

would be a very difficult job to do.

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The other side of it is

I think most people don't realize

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that these videos

are even accessible outside of their own,

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you know, private phone.

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Yeah, that's got to be weird.

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Major retail operator files bankruptcy.

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Customers have less than a month

to use their gift cards.

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So the retailer

that they're talking about here

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is, Eddie Bauer, which is kind of sad

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because this was a long and a nice story.

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It was, you know, one of the places

you went that was a little bit,

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you know, a little bit of a step

above a lot of different other things.

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So you have until March 12th.

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If you have a gift card for any of our,

make sure you use it

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because that's like a week

or give or take you go.

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And what it is is

the stores are in a shutdown point.

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All sales made in stores are final

and cannot be exchanged returned.

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And what this is, is in the United States.

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In Canada, the retailer has filed

for chapter 11 bankruptcy,

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and they are shutting down and auctioning

off their brick and mortar operations.

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I had about 180 retail outlet stores

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in the US and Canada, and those are

the ones that are shutting down.

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So it looks like the gift cards

won't be usable online either.

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It's just at the end of that. That's it.

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So if you have an Eddie Bauer card,

dig it out from wherever it's sitting.

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Find something to buy.

There's plenty of stuff.

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With the closing sales, you're

probably going to get a better deal.

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But if you don't do it here, by the time

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it shuts down and closes,

they just aren't worth anything anymore.

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And that's March 12th.

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And this is one of the problems

with gift cards,

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because you're paying for something.

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And depending on the credit

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of the retailer or whoever

is going to honor that card to do it.

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And if they don't, you're

kind of just not your money.

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Yeah, that's really sad.

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All right.

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Dramatic changes have been observed

in one of the universe's

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biggest stars.

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And this is not Hollywood

now, one in space.

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All right, religious reporting.

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Will Durham wrote the article.

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And what we are looking at here is a store

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called w o g 64.

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And they're saying it's

the stellar equivalent of Jimi Hendrix.

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So we do have the Hollywood

equivalent here just a little bit on this.

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What's happening is, is

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it is progressing

a lot faster than most stars do.

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It went from red to yellow

and these type of a thing and something

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that, yellow hypergiant,

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usually takes billions of years

in time to accomplish.

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And this is happening very, very quickly.

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Now, I don't know about that. Gretchen.

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You can speak to this.

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I looked it up.

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The Death

Star only took 19 years to build,

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and the second Death Star was, like,

three years.

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So that's not billions of years, right?

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And it didn't take them very long to blow

it up, either, when they finally decided.

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And I have a funny feeling that, you know,

stars that go like this do live hard

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and quickly and, that will be the case

here, most likely with this.

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But it is, again, a just a you know,

we really don't know a lot about space.

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And I think the more we learn

the more we figure out what we don't know.

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Even things like the Voyager,

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being outside of the solar system

now, that kind of a thing

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and finding all kinds of things

that they didn't think would be the case.

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And, you know, so,

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kind of cool

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this a

little footnote on that, by the way,

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they think they're going to be able to

nd the batteries now into the:

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So I don't know if somehow

they got recharged remotely.

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Maybe we got maybe,

maybe some little gray alien stuff here.

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We'll fix that for. Yeah.

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You know, talk about a, battery charging

service that's not at a gas station.

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You know, that's really remote.

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Yeah.

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Dear HBO Max, Paramount+

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streaming services will merge

after Warner Brothers discovery deal.

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So we talked about this

a little bit in Netflix,

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wanting to buy, Warner Brothers discovery

that has not happened.

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Paramount is now in

the bidder's seat on that.

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And if it's approved, because somehow

this isn't a monopoly, but with Netflix,

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it was

somebody I'll need to explain that, to me.

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But in any of it,

maybe less of a monopoly is,

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a situation here

where if that happens to save money

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and I can understand this,

they would put the apps together.

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So there's pushback on this happening

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because HBO has always been

a very specific brand,

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usually with, quality programing

and even back

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in the ancient days of cable, where

you had a converter box to receive it,

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if you subscribed to HBO,

it was a very specific thing,

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and you would kind of get

what you paid for.

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And some of these other streaming services

are not like that so much.

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Now, I won't say, you know, here

that, Paramount is bad.

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It's not at least in my opinion,

I have that.

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And, I get their

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app is a freebie through one of my credit

cards, so, you know, I use it,

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but putting them together does seem like

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they're putting two different things

together.

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Along the same reasons

why discovery did not merge their app

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as it is now, with Warner Brothers.

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Because one is like home repair and stuff

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like that, and the other one

is a completely different idea.

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So it'll be movies.

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Yeah, movies. Exactly. Right.

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And other content. But,

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it's going to be

interesting to see where this will happen.

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It will bring other things

like sport offerings,

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TNT, CBS sports, that kind of thing.

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So, you know, at the end of the day,

it's going to make for a streaming app

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that does a lot.

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And there is a lot of streaming fatigue

right now with having to get

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a lot of different things for, you know,

you want this and you have to go to that.

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And then the other one's a different one.

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So I think it'll help

a little bit with that.

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But we don't want to see

the whole monopoly thing here either,

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because that's going to run up prices

even more than they have in.

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So, you know, I can kind of understand

both sides of the coin.

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But here from a situation of what's going

on, if the merger is approved,

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then that is what's going to happen.

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And I would imagine that one out

probably would cost a little more.

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Maybe not.

We'll have to see how they do that.

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Yeah.

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All right MIT creates injectable

gel capable of repairing nerves.

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Yeah, that'd be nice. One.

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Yeah.

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Would you know

the only the only problem with this

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is that, MIT

doesn't seem to know anything about it.

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Oh. And, you know that that's a

that's a thing.

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Right?

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So I am.

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The reason I included

this is because we talk a lot about what

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you see online and the fact that you can't

take everything at face value.

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Yeah.

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This is something that that is based on

something that MIT is doing,

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which is actually quite amazing,

but has been taken to this idea of,

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you know, being injectable

and just kind of fixes you like Star Trek.

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We're not quite there yet.

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But what they are looking at doing

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is having a hydrogel

that will help nerves heal.

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They're designed to mimic the

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body's natural tissue, provide a scaffold

where nerve fibers can grow

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and release healing molecules that reduce

inflammation and guide nerve growth.

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And yes, I did read that off the press

release. Now,

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in studies, to an extent,

this type of thing is working.

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It has not been demonstrated

on humans yet.

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It's still lab and animal testing where

they're looking at this kind of thing and

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so it's more like a back to tank idea

where you, you dip

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your, your arm or your hand into a

like a healing solution

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instead of having it

injected into your body.

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Or what am I misunderstanding?

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The description of this

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is more like surgeons reconnect nerves

and use this technique to get it to heal.

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So I don't even think we're there,

I think.

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But the thing of it

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is, is being able to reconnect

nerves in of itself is a big deal.

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Oh yeah.

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You know,

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but yeah, it's not a gel

where you inject it

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and all of a sudden,

you know, everything's happy, you know.

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So better back to the do you know,

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do you understand what I'm talking about

when I say back to tank.

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Yes. Yeah. And okay.

392

:

But again no, this looks like this

requires a surgical procedure.

393

:

They're also looking for a real roll out

of anything like this for 10 to 20 years.

394

:

Beyond,

where they're at now in the testing phase.

395

:

But, you know, I like

I like to see stuff like this,

396

:

despite the hype on Instagram, with it

being able to reconnect

397

:

nerves in of itself is a big deal

and a huge thing for quality of life

398

:

for people that, have had damage,

you know, so it's a good thing to see

399

:

it happening, but it's not quite to the,

400

:

extent that, it was pushing.

401

:

So anyway.

402

:

All right, so another question that comes

403

:

in, we've been talking retro tech,

404

:

and I'm going to just cover this

very briefly

405

:

because we don't have a lot of time

here left in the segment.

406

:

But a lot of people are asking questions

about the different gaming consoles.

407

:

So like Nintendo, PlayStation, Xbox,

that kind of thing.

408

:

And over the years, a lot of these

consoles have had ports on them.

409

:

And the original Nintendo had one

410

:

on the bottom, and a lot of the others

have followed suit.

411

:

And these type of things were put out

for the idea of future proof

412

:

and to some extent, these consoles.

413

:

But in a lot of cases

they were never used.

414

:

Now, from a technical perspective,

what we're dealing with here is something

415

:

where it's an expansion port that can

access usually the system bus in some way

416

:

be able to interact with the hardware

or the computer that's inside the console.

417

:

So that's kind of cool.

418

:

You know, if you could do it, Nintendo

offers plenty to offer some things.

419

:

The original one was going to be a modem.

420

:

Yeah, some of the other ones,

they were going to make a disc drive.

421

:

I believe that was a game

where that was going to go

422

:

for being able to save stuff,

and that kept getting delayed.

423

:

Delayed. It did finally come out in Japan.

424

:

We never had it here,

but that would have been a use for this.

425

:

And you see this, you know, I'm

picking on Nintendo a little bit here,

426

:

but there's some other things too.

427

:

Sega Genesis, had a port

originally planned for modems

428

:

and now working to access

external peripherals,

429

:

diagnosis of which is what

it actually ended up being used for.

430

:

And the only thing

431

:

you know.

432

:

So you see this across the board.

433

:

The Super Nintendo had one

for a CD-Rom drive

434

:

they were going to put together

in partnership with Sony,

435

:

which won a different direction

when Nintendo decided to,

436

:

do some other things

437

:

that Sony was unhappy about,

which is how we got the PlayStation

438

:

that was originally going to be the

the Nintendo PlayStation.

439

:

Yeah.

So these things go a different direction.

440

:

Some parts of this are research

and development, that kind of thing.

441

:

One of the biggest ones,

I think literally was

442

:

the still, what they called the fat model.

443

:

And it had this giant compartment

on the back and,

444

:

it was meant for a hard drive upgrade.

445

:

There was one game that they did

come out with that in one game did use

446

:

it, Final Fantasy,

I think it was 11 or 1 of them.

447

:

Ten, 11, something like that.

448

:

Yeah, the $100 upgrade.

449

:

But most people used it to hide

the sandwich.

450

:

Extra TV remotes, you know, as gold bars.

451

:

I hope not one

of the first or someday, but,

452

:

you know,

453

:

but again, and then after the fact,

what happens with a lot of these

454

:

things is in most console lifespans,

they will reissue.

455

:

So you had a PlayStation two then, or

whatever it was called that removed this.

456

:

And now all of a sudden,

if you have people that have bought

457

:

whatever peripheral

it is, it won't work anymore.

458

:

We saw that on the Atari 7800.

459

:

They had an expansion port

460

:

that was never used

and then just kind of done away with.

461

:

So the one thing about it is, is we're

seeing these things used in homebrew.

462

:

So a lot of developers

now, it's a lot easier to build things

463

:

where you will connect

464

:

a Raspberry Pi or a domino

or something to these expansion ports,

465

:

which is a lot more powerful than

the original console ever would have been,

466

:

adding all kinds of features

and different things like that.

467

:

I have one on my Atari eight computer

that allows it to go online.

468

:

The component that allows that to happen

469

:

is something like 10,000 times

more powerful than the actual computer.

470

:

But hey, it works and it works well.

471

:

All right.

472

:

Next segment we're going to be

talking about faces is user friendly.

473

:

2.0 we'll be back after the break.

474

:

Series from the future.

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:

He's got a really big computer

476

:

and he uses it every day.

477

:

And he usually uses it in every way.

478

:

I see you before, you know.

479

:

I'm not that sure

because he's eager to welcome back.

480

:

This is user friendly 2.0.

481

:

Check out our website user friendly

dot show.

482

:

That is your one stop for all things user

friendly.

483

:

Send us your questions, your comments.

484

:

We do our programing

based on what you want us to cover

485

:

and that's how we find out

and on that line.

486

:

We've had a lot of questions

coming in about FAQs

487

:

and this is nothing new,

but it is getting a lot worse.

488

:

And what we're talking about here

is the things that are manufactured

489

:

that look just like a real brand,

that maybe even say

490

:

the name of the real brand,

but are not made by that manufacturer

491

:

and therefore are usually inferior

and don't work as well.

492

:

And I talked about this

when it happened to me a while back.

493

:

I was working on my home

network and I had to get your, your neck,

494

:

your switches, Ethernet switches

and everybody that doesn't know

495

:

these are just devices

that are part of your network

496

:

where you kind of plug everything

in, it concentrates it, puts it together,

497

:

and then figures out

what goes where from the internet.

498

:

So it's a device

that's been around for a very long time.

499

:

But as things have been upgraded,

I had originally gotten a set

500

:

that were 2.5 gigabit, and I had used them

501

:

for about a year

and a half was no problem.

502

:

Well, recently I had to make some changes

to my network for my backups,

503

:

and all of a sudden we started

having all kinds of just weird problems

504

:

that wouldn't work

for doing the backups properly,

505

:

but you couldn't even see the

the backup storage device on the network

506

:

and then start digging into it

507

:

and figuring out, well, my woman

that's on Wi-Fi, I can get right to it.

508

:

But the stuff that's on the wired network

doesn't work. Well.

509

:

It turns out after wasting about six hours

trying to figure out what's going on

510

:

because it did not occur to me

to check this.

511

:

The switches are fake.

512

:

So they did. You pop it open?

513

:

Yeah.

514

:

Oh, geez.

515

:

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, of course I did.

516

:

I wanted to see

what was actually going inside.

517

:

And now they're branded Netgear.

518

:

I got them off eBay, which is always.

519

:

Yeah, you know,

520

:

you're not guaranteed anything there,

but I usually buy and I've had pretty

521

:

good luck with it.

522

:

You know, all the express, it's like if

you get the real item, you're doing well.

523

:

But, this was something that was.

524

:

And they were very well made.

525

:

Metal case, all the stuff that you would

expect from the original thing.

526

:

So I pulled the inside out of it.

527

:

And what was very interesting

is the largest component

528

:

in there was where all the plugs were.

529

:

And then there was a ribbon cable

530

:

that went back to this little tiny

PC board with a blob on it,

531

:

and the other end went to the power

supply.

532

:

Pick a blob. What? It was a blob.

533

:

A lot of times

when they manufacture processors or chips

534

:

and want to either do it

cheaply or do something where

535

:

you can't figure out what it is,

instead of putting it in a plastic package

536

:

like what we all think of as a chip

looking like it'll have the silicon

537

:

sprayed on the board

with just some kind of gunk put over it,

538

:

glue or whatever the case may be,

so that you can't get into it.

539

:

It's cheaper to manufacture it that way.

540

:

And that is not how Netgear

makes the request. But

541

:

so and I can I can really speak to that

542

:

because when I finally did

get my real Netgear switches from Netgear,

543

:

I took them apart

and there's a lot more going on inside

544

:

just because, you know,

it works properly and magically.

545

:

When I put these on my network,

it automatically cleared everything up.

546

:

It's like, sorry, are you

are you saying that we need

547

:

to open our equipment to see if it's real?

548

:

I'm not advising that.

549

:

Especially if you don't know what you're,

you know, doing with that.

550

:

You can have mains voltages and

other things and certainly mess stuff up.

551

:

And if it's working

okay, you're probably fine.

552

:

But you want to make sure that number one,

if you get something used.

553

:

So this would be eBay

and Facebook Marketplace or even new

554

:

through some of these platforms,

certainly AliExpress and some of those

555

:

to be a little bit skeptical and maybe

check it out if the thing comes in

556

:

and it's really lightweight or there's

something it feels like it's off,

557

:

it might not be the real thing.

558

:

And this is actually something

that, in addition to being annoying,

559

:

can be dangerous.

560

:

And we're going to get to that here

in a little bit.

561

:

So what we've done is a little research,

with the help of ChatGPT,

562

:

to put together

a list of different devices,

563

:

different pieces of hardware

that are coming up.

564

:

More and more is fake. So don't worry,

we didn't hallucinate here.

565

:

I actually did check each one of them

and they are correct.

566

:

So, yeah,

567

:

we're not going to talk about a technical

device here that doesn't exist.

568

:

At least I hope not.

569

:

And anyway, but that being the case,

570

:

the list

that kind of finally got put together,

571

:

you start to think the first one

is counterfeit USB drives and SD cards.

572

:

Now, we actually did talk about this

on the show once before.

573

:

And what this basically is, is you

574

:

get, something

that's an unbelievable deal, by the way.

575

:

That's the other thing to take a second

look at,

576

:

flash drives, two terabytes

577

:

USB for $9 is the example given here.

578

:

Now, if you go on and price

something like that,

579

:

in a lot of cases, the capacity

that's claimed doesn't even exist.

580

:

And if it does, it's going to be a lot

more than $9 for something like that.

581

:

Right.

582

:

And what they're doing in a lot of cases

583

:

here is the device itself is actually real

584

:

and it's been purchased, used or,

you know, from something that's old tech

585

:

or whatever the case may be,

and they've changed the capacity on it.

586

:

So they've gone in and hacked the device.

587

:

So that will report that it's two terabyte

when it's really maybe only 32 gigabyte.

588

:

And so when you start using it, it works.

589

:

That's the other thing too.

590

:

But what generally happens in these things

is, is you're going through

591

:

when you hit the real limit

on whatever it is,

592

:

it doesn't know

to tell you that it's full.

593

:

So it just starts overwriting from

the beginning again, so you lose data.

594

:

Lovely.

595

:

You know, especially if you're using them

for backups or that type of a thing.

596

:

And you won't realize that usually until

after the return period is gone.

597

:

So you know, that's, that's a big concern.

598

:

Next one on the list is fake

power supplies, fake chargers.

599

:

And this is one of the ones

where things can get dangerous.

600

:

And I've actually seen this where it's

claimed to be made by a company, you know,

601

:

a valid vendor like Apple for a phone

charger or Samsung or something.

602

:

And I ran into this once where it

the one I got was a fake.

603

:

I figured it out when the plug broke

before I plugged it into the phone.

604

:

Which was a good sign.

605

:

But what's happening here is that you

606

:

miss a lot of the safety components.

607

:

So voltage regulation being one.

608

:

And what that's talking about is

if you have your expensive

609

:

iPhone or Samsung

phone, it's a grand or more

610

:

and you want to recharge it

and the phone's expecting a five volt

611

:

charge line or whatever

it is, I'm just using that as an example,

612

:

and you plug it in and the voltage

coming to it says it's five volts,

613

:

but is fluctuating around

and is much higher or lower.

614

:

That can damage your

device or even destroy it.

615

:

And that's

616

:

bad if you spend a lot of money

on one of those iPhones.

617

:

Yeah, and frankly,

that's not even if you don't because,

618

:

you don't want that to happen.

619

:

And the thing of it is,

is that type of thing, in addition

620

:

to being able to screw up your device,

there are examples out there of it

621

:

causing fires.

622

:

You know, one of the examples

we're giving here is electrocution,

623

:

risk of damage to devices,

which we just talked about.

624

:

But the thing of it is, is, yeah,

you have a charger.

625

:

And if it doesn't have heat protection

or voltage protection and something

626

:

short circuits

where instead of it turning off, it's

627

:

going to start on fire

and it's not worth saving the few bucks.

628

:

And again,

629

:

look at it.

630

:

If the price is something completely

unusual or something feels wrong about it

631

:

when you get it,

have a little suspicion, you know.

632

:

Yeah.

633

:

And then the thing is,

634

:

is, okay, you're you're assuming

that you're talking to adults.

635

:

What if your kids are also using

this stuff?

636

:

Yeah.

And they're not going to know any better.

637

:

And simply overheating could burn them.

638

:

I mean, you know,

there's all kinds of things

639

:

that could happen

that it doesn't go things.

640

:

And, you know, fake Apple

chargers are one of the most counterfeited

641

:

electronics in the world just because

they're expensive for the real thing.

642

:

But you see this everywhere else.

643

:

And on that train of thought

is counterfeit lithium batteries.

644

:

This gets really dangerous.

What could go wrong here?

645

:

Hey, Bill, I'm going to throw that to you.

646

:

What would happen if you had a counterfeit

647

:

lithium battery with no, protection on it

at all?

648

:

Well, they explode.

649

:

Yeah. And little, you know, minor cabinet.

650

:

Yeah.

651

:

To put it mildly.

652

:

And obviously,

653

:

you know, I make a little bit light of it,

but we shouldn't because that is very,

654

:

very dangerous.

And batteries are expensive.

655

:

Another reason they get away with this

kind of a thing.

656

:

Camera batteries, power tool batteries,

cells, different things like that.

657

:

Some of the things are the capacity on

it will be a lot more than it is now.

658

:

I ran into this once with a DeWalt

659

:

and what makes a lot of power tools,

and they use, in my case,

660

:

I think it was 18 volt batteries

that go on these to run them.

661

:

And I needed a second battery

and I ordered one.

662

:

And this was through Amazon.

663

:

And I got the battery and didn't

think about it too much.

664

:

I charged it and used it a little bit,

665

:

and then came back a couple of weeks later

and it wouldn't charge anymore.

666

:

So it went that way.

667

:

And I look at it's

the same color, same plastic, same molds.

668

:

It doesn't say DeWalt anywhere on it did

on the packaging, but not on the battery.

669

:

Now, fortunately,

I was still within my return

670

:

window on it,

so I was able to send it back.

671

:

But, and it wasn't even cheaper.

672

:

It was about the same price

as the real one.

673

:

I ended up buying the batteries

plus later. Wow.

674

:

So I didn't save a lot on that, you know?

675

:

So that was completely a scam.

676

:

I know there was a story recently

that I came across to,

677

:

somebody had a charge pack,

you know, like you used for recharging

678

:

your cell phone on the go.

679

:

And it was barely doing anything,

680

:

and they opened it up, and it was three

regular lithium batteries and 12

681

:

fake batteries every.

682

:

Yeah.

683

:

And then I kind of.

684

:

You're talking like a power bank,

probably.

685

:

And, Yeah.

686

:

And, you know, and again,

that type of a thing, it's one thing

687

:

when it's annoying and just doesn't do

what it's supposed to do.

688

:

But the other side of it, again,

no thermal protection that can cause

689

:

overheating of fires, as you say,

of explosions, which has happened.

690

:

This is one of the reasons

they have to regulate lithium batteries

691

:

when you get on the planes,

because this has actually happened.

692

:

It's not a theoretical thing.

693

:

And, sometimes even with the real stuff

when it's effective.

694

:

But you definitely see this among the,

the fake things and are definitely,

695

:

something, again, that can screw up

your device

696

:

certainly won't hold a charge

for very long.

697

:

I like what you're talking about

and can burn down your house.

698

:

Yeah, you're good. Stories about kids

toys.

699

:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How big?

What is that?

700

:

There is a chip that goes on

most lithium things.

701

:

Cell phones, a lot of it

where it will stop

702

:

the charging at a certain stage,

usually about

703

:

99, 98% of acts charge

704

:

so that it doesn't go over

and cause an explosion.

705

:

Right.

706

:

And a lot of these big ones, they,

707

:

they don't include that.

708

:

And the reason why I know about these is

that they don't include those on a lot of,

709

:

RC cars,

which my stepson is very much into.

710

:

So you have to get what's called

they have a chip that it plugs into that

711

:

allows it to charge correctly.

712

:

You know, it's and the other thing of it

too, is it's just a great thing really,

713

:

because one of the devices

714

:

that does regulation like

this is a component called a thermistor.

715

:

And there's a lot of other ways to do it,

716

:

but it's one

that's been around for a long time.

717

:

And being into repairing the old arcade

718

:

cabinets,

these were used long line protection and,

719

:

costing about a buck 68 to replace

the one that goes on the line voltage.

720

:

So something that would into a low voltage

battery pack would of course

721

:

be a lot cheaper.

722

:

That's not a lot of money really,

when you think about it.

723

:

And again, some places,

if you went to AliExpress

724

:

and you know it's $0.10 for this,

okay, it's going to be fake.

725

:

But when you're getting some of

these devices off reputable retailers,

726

:

which even in some cases include BestBuy

and Amazon like we talked about,

727

:

that's pretty bad.

728

:

And again, it's

something that is becoming a lot worse

729

:

and moving on to the next one here.

730

:

This one is interesting

and speak computer processors.

731

:

And this one would be really bad

732

:

because you're looking at a situation

where this stuff's expensive.

733

:

So if you're doing

building your own computer

734

:

or if you're a company that, you know,

like Dell or something that buys

735

:

an Intel processor,

that type of thing ended up with fakes.

736

:

It could really screw things up.

737

:

And at your best,

it might be a relabeling of a lesser CPU.

738

:

But you know, some of what

this talks about here is, seller

739

:

sending a CPU shaped piece of metal.

740

:

And, I think you would realize that one,

I would hope, but

741

:

if what they're banking on is there's

going to be a certain amount of people

742

:

that would get the box in the mail

that it's somewhere

743

:

until they get around to their project,

which is after the return window,

744

:

and then they can't

do much about it. You know,

745

:

it's,

746

:

it's it's a crazy thing,

but we're seeing it all around.

747

:

Next item on the list,

748

:

which we kind of already talked about,

is fake network equipment.

749

:

Oh, boy.

750

:

And that's exactly what,

what happened here?

751

:

Some of the other things

that came up with this is,

752

:

name brand Cisco being one of them.

753

:

That is faked a lot is two things

you want to be careful of.

754

:

Number one is these type of devices

usually have firmware,

755

:

which is software that runs the device

that's built into it.

756

:

Most electronics of that nature a routers

certainly does that type of thing.

757

:

But this can be very compromised

on the fake one

758

:

and also have backdoors

that other people can get into it.

759

:

If someone can get into a backdoor

on your network router, they can get there

760

:

behind your firewall usually,

and they can get to,

761

:

you know, anything in your network

that's even real.

762

:

Yeah,

763

:

some of the cases are really bad

764

:

where they can turn on the camera

on your computer

765

:

and watch what you're doing

without you knowing about it.

766

:

Those type of things,

767

:

certainly getting financial information

and all that kind of stuff.

768

:

And the other thing of it

is, too, is you don't know what's in it.

769

:

Like my switches.

770

:

Same type of thing.

771

:

I have no idea who made them,

772

:

you know, and now a dumb

773

:

switch doesn't have firmware,

so I didn't have the back door problem.

774

:

But a lot of, networks,

most networks actually use smart switches

775

:

where you can configure them

and everything, and those do,

776

:

I don't need it for what I'm doing, but

777

:

certainly most commercial networks

would have that.

778

:

And I think a lot of home ones do as well,

you know. So,

779

:

it definitely creates a problem.

780

:

And one other note on this,

this is not a new thing, but on a lot

781

:

this came up really in

the 90s is a big problem.

782

:

Is cache memory was a new thing or 86,

microprocessors

783

:

in that era started having cache 386,

some of the higher end ones too.

784

:

And you would get a motherboard which had

what looked like cache memory on it.

785

:

But if you looked at it,

the prices weren't hooked up to anything

786

:

and force

it didn't work and it wasn't real,

787

:

but they could charge a lot more money

for that, you know?

788

:

And again,

the consumer may not know what's going on.

789

:

And even,

790

:

you know, hobbyists who builds their own

computer might put this thing together.

791

:

And unless they start benchmarking

or going in to try to enable this stuff,

792

:

they may never actually see it,

that it's not really there.

793

:

You know. So

794

:

I don't know.

795

:

And again, I'm not trying to give

everybody a downer, but this is something

796

:

that we need to be aware of

because it can cause very bad things.

797

:

Break HDMI and display cables

is the next one on the list.

798

:

And if you go

if you've ever gone to certainly

799

:

to a retailer like BestBuy and bought,

say, a monster eight K

800

:

HDMI cable, you need to have one

won the lottery, probably.

801

:

But to that point is

these are generally very expensive.

802

:

And if you look on an O or,

you know, on Amazon, I can get that exact

803

:

same able to that

brand or eBay for something for,

804

:

you know, a 10th of the price.

805

:

And it might look just like it

when you get it, but it will not work

806

:

very well.

807

:

And, you know,

and the other thing of it is too is, HDMI,

808

:

Bluetooth, all of these type of things

have versions in of himself.

809

:

So if you need the latest version of HDMI

because you're run in, let's say,

810

:

a 4K television with Dolby Vision

and all the other,

811

:

you know, goodies

that you would have on that,

812

:

and you get an HDMI cable

that's branded that,

813

:

but an older version,

it's not going to work. Right.

814

:

And you're not going to know what's wrong.

815

:

At least at first.

816

:

It'll feel like the television

isn't working quite right or,

817

:

you know, something else.

818

:

And it, definitely is a problem.

819

:

I have not run into this personally,

but I know that there are those that have.

820

:

And again, and this one's

a little bit harder to deal with because

821

:

Best Buy and I will pick a one on them

for this

822

:

does really mark up their cables.

823

:

Yeah.

824

:

They are a lot more expensive

than they should be.

825

:

And in some cases

you can really find a better deal.

826

:

If you look online and you know

other retailers and that type of a thing,

827

:

but then it's hard to know.

828

:

Is it just a better deal

because they've marked it up

829

:

versus is it fake

or is it an older version?

830

:

So exactly how do you know

that you've gotten a bad cable?

831

:

Well, I did a little

research and got an old pagan ritual

832

:

from the old gods,

and I asked them, oh, okay.

833

:

Well,

I'm like a little intense for some people.

834

:

You know, it might it might not be the way

some people want to go.

835

:

And I'm kidding about that, of course.

836

:

But, some of the things

is, is the fact that it won't work.

837

:

Right.

838

:

That is your first clue.

839

:

Flickering different things like that.

840

:

The device is going back

to a lower resolution,

841

:

not doing

what they're actually supposed to do.

842

:

The other thing of it is, if you look

at it in the build, quality is really bad.

843

:

Commercially produced high end cables

aren't going to look like that.

844

:

You do when you spend more money,

you get a better product.

845

:

In that sense.

846

:

And you know, a situation

is where with this, it's really just the

847

:

you have to run it and

use it and see if it doesn't work right

848

:

or if it looks off,

or if it's really just too good of a deal.

849

:

Yeah.

850

:

You know, I was looking at that, hairdryer

cable that,

851

:

that went south on me

and I was looking at it thinking,

852

:

should that have really done that?

853

:

Because it yeah, it looked bad.

854

:

And I was kind of surprised

when I saw that big flash come out of it.

855

:

You know, I was looking at,

for some reason, the, brushes on this.

856

:

A real quick aside, Gretchen

had a hairdryer that blew up on her.

857

:

Was made.

858

:

The, brushes on the motor were plastic

with a little tiny piece of metal

859

:

in the middle, and it's a slippery motor,

and that's why it failed like that.

860

:

Shorted out just because,

like I said, that's that was a con air.

861

:

That should have done that.

862

:

And it did.

863

:

It broke from the heat and, you know, wow.

864

:

I mean,

I think if I'm going to double check that

865

:

because none of the internal components

said Con Air, come to think of that.

866

:

So you think that was a con air?

All right.

867

:

I look at it. I still have it.

868

:

I'll look at it.

869

:

So all right,

let's get into the scary stuff okay.

870

:

This is the stuff that really can cause

problems.

871

:

Counterfeit

automotive parts are becoming a problem.

872

:

Oh, things like

873

:

brake pads, putting fake brakes,

874

:

anti bad air bags being filled with cloth

or paper instead of the actual inflators.

875

:

Oh boy.

876

:

Yeah,

I think about putting that in your car.

877

:

Get an axle.

I mean, you know, that could kill you.

878

:

I mean, it's not funny that really good.

879

:

Oh, I'd be better off without the airbag.

880

:

Exactly, exactly.

881

:

And, you know, in these type of things,

882

:

another area was in the white,

883

:

aviation had a problem with this,

that the company was sending

884

:

the companies that were doing

the repair work on commercial planes

885

:

like Southwest Airlines

and United and stuff like parts,

886

:

and they were not charging

less for them either.

887

:

And the airlines

got them thinking they were reputable.

888

:

And when this came out,

they had to ground a lot of aircraft

889

:

and go through and check and see if

the repair components they used were real.

890

:

Yeah.

891

:

You know, anything like the one where the

panel went flying off the off the plane?

892

:

I don't

know if that was directly related to that.

893

:

I think that that one from my

if I remember

894

:

remembering correctly, Boeing,

which was the manufacturer

895

:

that simply didn't

put the clamps in the door or something,

896

:

but I would need to look that up

to be sure it wasn't fake.

897

:

It was just simply not there.

898

:

Which would also be a problem right?

899

:

Yeah,

but when you think about that in Bill,

900

:

I know you've done

a lot of mechanical work over the years.

901

:

Can you imagine getting a fake oil filter

and what that could do to your engine?

902

:

Well, you know, the oil filter quality

alone matters a lot.

903

:

Not to plug anything,

but I use Napa filters because

904

:

just actually seeing them

cross-section is significantly better

905

:

than any other filter

I've seen out there. The Napa gold.

906

:

Yeah.

907

:

Yeah.

908

:

I mean, there are better filters,

don't get me wrong.

909

:

Just you, you know, it's nice

and and their ratings are good.

910

:

I don't think they're, you know,

911

:

they're not a sponsor or anything,

but it is a good brand.

912

:

I've had good luck with them, too.

913

:

And it's not bad to talk about things

that do work.

914

:

But again, if let's say that you went to,

915

:

you know, your auto parts store

and bought your Napa filter

916

:

and the auto parts store buys

from usually a reseller

917

:

or some kind of a wholesale company,

and let's say they didn't know it was fake

918

:

and somehow it got into the stream

somewhere.

919

:

Backup channel, you know, that's

where these things can get really scary

920

:

because, you know,

you're a business that changes oil filters

921

:

and you didn't notice

or you didn't see what it was.

922

:

Is it obvious?

923

:

Not really.

924

:

Oh no. Really.

925

:

An oil filter is a sealed thing.

926

:

It's just painted on.

927

:

And if it says Napa, you expect

that says Napa or whatever.

928

:

Yeah, exactly.

929

:

But like one of the biggest risks

in mechanics, and this comes

930

:

from everywhere, even building bridges

and other things is bolt quality.

931

:

Oh, yeah. You can get some really.

932

:

There's also come in grades

for those who don't know.

933

:

And let's say you have a grade eight,

which is a very high quality

934

:

bolt.

935

:

It's been happened

936

:

where the bolt quality has been junk

937

:

or they've been knock off bolts.

938

:

This has caused things

like wheels to come off of vehicles.

939

:

I mean, it can be catastrophically

damaging.

940

:

Yeah, yeah.

941

:

Very easily.

942

:

I mean, you know, when you think about it,

I just at the end of the day

943

:

and then when you think back to some of

the other things like fake brake pads,

944

:

you would have no idea

what the quality of these would be.

945

:

They probably work initially, but,

946

:

you know, something goes

wrong with that system and you can't stop.

947

:

It can kill you.

948

:

It's not, you know, something

just to screw around with.

949

:

Saving money

and taking it to the next topic goes in

950

:

with most one that I would consider

the scariest is fake medication.

951

:

Yeah,

and this very much is a global problem.

952

:

Medication costs a lot of money

and they're finding thousands of examples

953

:

with, hey, you're a fake insulin, fake

Covid test, which has been a big deal.

954

:

Fake blood glucose strips.

955

:

This goes on to a lot of other things

where your medication will look

956

:

just like what it's supposed to do,

but the dosage might be off.

957

:

It might not even be the medication.

958

:

So if you're taking something like,

let's say you have heart trouble

959

:

and you're taking a medication to regulate

that, you get a fake

960

:

one that could easily kill you

or the wrong dosage of that line.

961

:

Do you remember our friend Peter,

when he was still alive

962

:

and he ended up with a, a pill

that had rice, powder in it,

963

:

and he was allergic to rice powder,

and he wasn't supposed to have that.

964

:

Yeah.

965

:

And these these type of things happen.

966

:

And, you know, again,

you're looking at the distributor

967

:

and where is all this coming from?

968

:

And there have been shortages

during the pandemic.

969

:

There was a time

970

:

where you simply couldn't get medication,

even the ones that you absolutely needed

971

:

for a while.

972

:

And, you know, the supply lines are

something that you can't always verify.

973

:

Another one where this is, is flu shots.

974

:

And they've had a couple of instances

975

:

over the years

where if both on the good side be saline,

976

:

because that won't do anything bad to you

if you inject that,

977

:

or other stuff that might.

978

:

And of course,

979

:

you know, if it's one

thing, you've got to get a flu shot

980

:

because you don't want to get the flu

and then you get sick.

981

:

But you got to consider

982

:

that a lot of these type of medications

are used in vulnerable people

983

:

that if they get the flu,

they're going to die

984

:

or have some really bad problem with it.

985

:

It isn't just being in bed

with chicken soup for a week or two.

986

:

And when that happens,

987

:

we saw a couple of children

dying from that type of a thing,

988

:

and they did track that down

and figure out where it was coming from.

989

:

But it was a situation

where, you know, it's just downright

990

:

you can't trust your medication.

991

:

You know, and that type of a thing.

992

:

And then that coupled with the fact

that a lot of people,

993

:

because of the cost of these things,

will buy from international pharmacies

994

:

and all of that.

995

:

And again, that takes it to another level.

996

:

But if you some of these injectable

or $:

997

:

So it's like you either have a choice

of doing that or you don't get it at all.

998

:

But now, you know, it's hard to be able

to track down and know what's real.

999

:

I don't know, I just think

this is all really scary and send this.

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