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This podcast episode features an engaging discourse with Frank Nabilo, a distinguished figure from CBS Sports, who imparts his insights on the culinary art of grilling, particularly emphasizing the imperative of consuming steaks immediately after cooking to preserve their succulent qualities. We delve into the nuances of barbecue culture, highlighting the shared conviction that a steak's optimal enjoyment is achieved while it is still hot off the grill, as opposed to allowing it to rest, which may lead to a loss of flavor and juiciness. Furthermore, we explore various light-hearted inquiries that reveal personal preferences and anecdotes, ultimately enriching our understanding of both the man and his craft. Frank's perspectives on underrated players in the golf arena and the evolving landscape of indoor golf competitions further contribute to a multifaceted discussion. As we conclude, we reflect on the joys of grilling and the camaraderie it fosters among enthusiasts.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- CBS Sports
- In N Out Burger
- Dragos
- Acme Oyster House
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
Transcripts
Welcome to Grilling at the Green After Hours, the conversation that took place after the show ended.
Speaker B:Hey, welcome to After Hours here on Grilling at the Green.
Speaker B:I'm jt.
Speaker B:We've got Frank Nabolo with us from CBS Sports.
Speaker B:Frank is a grill master, I gotta tell you that.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:We didn't bring that up too much in the regular show.
Speaker B:He made one.
Speaker A:We're trying to take from your tips there.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But Frank loves it.
Speaker B:And one thing that he and I really agree on, if you've ever listened to my barbecue show, I don't like resting, especially steaks.
Speaker B:Get them hot off the grill.
Speaker B:Eat the meat when it's hot and warm.
Speaker B:Don't let it sit there for five minutes and let all the good stuff run out of it.
Speaker B:That's my thought.
Speaker B:I've been whacked on that a few times in the barbecue world.
Speaker B:Don't care.
Speaker B:I like nice, juicy steaks.
Speaker A:You converted, Major?
Speaker B:Okay, so we got a few new after hours questions for you since you've been on, and I think you'll like this.
Speaker B:First of all, we'll start with something very important.
Speaker B:Frank, what's your favorite color?
Speaker B:Lifesaver?
Speaker B:Red.
Speaker A:I don't know why I said that.
Speaker A:Is it red or yellow?
Speaker B:What's the one song you want to hear on the radio when you start your car in the morning?
Speaker A:Well, it depends if I'm melancholy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Something like Sending the clowns, but.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm gonna throw myself under the bus here because I watch chick flicks and things like that, so.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:You're married.
Speaker B:I. I get it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I'm.
Speaker A:You know, I'm gonna.
Speaker A:See, I'm not.
Speaker A:This is terrible.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get killed for this.
Speaker A:I mean, I'll still play Whitney Houston every year just to, you know, from the Bodyguard.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get killed for that.
Speaker B:But, yeah, yeah, no, no, that's legal.
Speaker B:That's legal in my book.
Speaker B:Name a player, Frank, that you think is underrated.
Speaker B:Doesn't matter which tour or whatever or anything, but just one thing.
Speaker A:A golfer.
Speaker B:A golfer, yeah.
Speaker B:That you think is underrated.
Speaker A:Well, that's hard because I don't underwrite anyone, I think, when you see them play.
Speaker A:So, like.
Speaker A:Like, for example, I would have said last year, tommy Fleetwood is underrated.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:It's easy to say because he's just like some.
Speaker A:I don't know why.
Speaker A:I've just got Victor Hovland in there, and I Know, people think he's already good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think Victor Hovland could be great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I get it.
Speaker B:That's what.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:You don't play that much anymore, do you?
Speaker A:No, I'm old and broken down.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get that, too.
Speaker B:But when you were.
Speaker B:When you were playing, what was the first thing you would reach for when your round was finished?
Speaker A:My watch.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Very good.
Speaker B:What's the funniest thing you ever saw happen to a colleague on the air that we did not see at home?
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:There's too many.
Speaker A:There's too many.
Speaker A:You know, I'm actually sworn to secrecy on that, so I'm trying to almost throw myself under the bus.
Speaker A:I can't, honestly, I.
Speaker A:You're going to hate me.
Speaker A:Jill.
Speaker A:I can't tell you because I know if I.
Speaker A:If I throw one of them under the bus, they're going to do the same with me.
Speaker A:And I'll take plenty.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I wish us get.
Speaker A:Sell a shion, because he probably will throw one of us under the bus because we have a camera.
Speaker A:It's called a Snoop camera in there now and again.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And this.
Speaker A:If you.
Speaker A:There's times in commercial that we have too much fun, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he has to rein us in, so it's better coming from somebody else.
Speaker B:I was going to say.
Speaker B:And probably life got a little easier that when McCord left.
Speaker B:You know, there was probably times that Gary did stuff anyway.
Speaker B:What's one thing you wish spectators would not do?
Speaker A:You're the man.
Speaker A:I just think it's redundant now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Let out.
Speaker A:I love the energy they bring.
Speaker A:When I first came to America, I'd never seen crowds like it, and it's just such a buzz.
Speaker A:So the.
Speaker A:The energy they bring.
Speaker A:I never want to see that stop.
Speaker A:But, yeah, there's always one clown.
Speaker A:Doesn't matter.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Name an unsung hero in the golf world.
Speaker B:Could be anybody, any.
Speaker B:Any part of the golf world.
Speaker A:An unsung hero.
Speaker A:You know, it'd have to be a golf coach or a designer because, well, everybody knows the great designers, I guess.
Speaker A:So that wouldn't work.
Speaker A:So be a golf coach.
Speaker A:It'd be someone like Bob Toski or Dennis Jones.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Ennis Jones.
Speaker A:Swing the club.
Speaker A:Swing the clubhead.
Speaker B:You're on the road a lot during the year.
Speaker B:Name one place, Frank, that you always look forward to going to.
Speaker B:I mean, I'll give you a made up example here.
Speaker B:If you go to Torrey Pines, do you look forward to going and getting an in N Out Burger.
Speaker B:I mean, I've had people say things like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I must admit, I'll.
Speaker A:I'll definitely go for an In Out Burger.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, there's restaurants probably Dragos in.
Speaker A:In Louisiana, you know.
Speaker A:New Orleans.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker A:Or Acne.
Speaker A:Oyster House.
Speaker A:I love oysters.
Speaker A:And if you go to New we, there's no question you're just going to find an Oyster House straight away.
Speaker A:So that'll probably be one of the first restaurants I booked straight away, but I have little.
Speaker A:There's actually a place in.
Speaker A:Helen, he's gonna kill me.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get the name wrong.
Speaker A:There's a little Italian restaurant We.
Speaker A:I stayed.
Speaker A:The AC Marriott in Dublin.
Speaker A:And just down the road.
Speaker A:God, I can't remember.
Speaker A:It's a little Italian restaurant.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The lady at the bar runs it.
Speaker A:Her name's Sky.
Speaker A:The owner's great.
Speaker A:And like last year I was doing Gold Channel as well as cbs, so I didn't get in until Thursday.
Speaker A:And they both go, we didn't think you were coming in.
Speaker A:I will eat there three times during the course of the week.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I apologize to the owner right now that I couldn't get the name.
Speaker B:That's all right.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker A:Senior moment.
Speaker B:So you said you like oysters a lot.
Speaker B:What's your favorite oyster dish?
Speaker B:We'll go to the food side for a second.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, my wife hates it because I'll have them cooked as well.
Speaker A:Raw.
Speaker A:We can share if it's raw and with just.
Speaker A:With a dab of Tabasco.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't.
Speaker A:I always like.
Speaker A:We like something that's spicy, but I'll have them fried because then they're juicy.
Speaker A:I'll have them Kilpatrick.
Speaker A:You name it.
Speaker A:I don't care if it's an oyster, then I'll have.
Speaker A:You know, New Zealand has an oyster called the bluff oyster, which is.
Speaker A:I don't normally like oysters that are too strong, but it's so flavorful.
Speaker A:And that's always my standard that I.
Speaker A:That I keep trying, but, yeah, I can.
Speaker A:I'm not quite.
Speaker A:Quite Jack Nicklaus level of eating 100 oysters, but I can.
Speaker A:I can have a go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When I was in Australia, one of the trips down there, they.
Speaker B:They found out about my cooking and stuff, and so they showed me their version of oysters on the barbie that they'd open them up, they take them out of the shell, kind of rinse them off, then we put some Worcestershire in there, and you put the oyster back in and then they had some, like, diced bacon.
Speaker A:That's like Kilpatrick then.
Speaker B:Yeah, kind of like Kilpatrick.
Speaker A:And some.
Speaker B:And some.
Speaker B:Some onions and some garlic.
Speaker B:And there was something else.
Speaker B:I. I've cooked it a million times.
Speaker B:And why I can't think of the last ingredient right now is probably why I got the gray hair.
Speaker B:But anyway, you put them on the.
Speaker B:On the barbie and they'd kind of crisp up a little bit on top.
Speaker B:Not overly cooked, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:But just so the bacon was kind of crisp, if you will.
Speaker B:And then bring them out.
Speaker B:And they got me hooked on that.
Speaker B:And I must have that after that trip.
Speaker B:I must have cooked that stuff 50 times over the course of the next two months.
Speaker B:Tell our house guests and stuff.
Speaker B:Didn't want to eat them anymore, but I was having a heyday with them.
Speaker B:So anyway, yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It was the bacon work.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The cooked bacon works well with the oyster, but you can't have too many like that.
Speaker B:Right, right, right, right.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:Frank, do you think there's a place and it's spreading like wildfire.
Speaker B:But for indoor events like tgl, I mean, is that.
Speaker B:Do you consider that real golf?
Speaker A:If you asked me that five years ago, I'd say definitive.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But similar to golf, I've spent a lot of time in Korea calling events there.
Speaker A:Perhet a capital.
Speaker A:Largest simulated population in the world.
Speaker A:Go to every bar or restaurant.
Speaker A:Just about has a golf simulator.
Speaker A:So to me, if you can put a golf club in somebody's hand, then I think you're doing them a favor.
Speaker A:Yeah, so I'm actually for it from a competition point of view.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I'm still.
Speaker A:It's got a little bit to be desired.
Speaker A:I've gone to TGL a couple of times, I think, and I've told them.
Speaker A:So I'm not saying anything.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:I think it should be like a basketball game where you.
Speaker A:You hear everything.
Speaker A:And at the moment.
Speaker A:And I know they're taking baby steps and they're doing a good job, but it's done as a TV product.
Speaker A:And so when you're there live, you don't hear the players talking to each other.
Speaker A:So I just think it should be.
Speaker A:They're just still working with the audio once they get that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because, you know, it's a very intimate thing with about 5,000 people.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And the crowd want to get involved.
Speaker A:So then they start, you know, throwing shit on the.
Speaker A:On the players and all that.
Speaker A:And then you get the feedback and it becomes Like a basketball game.
Speaker A:And then I think you've got the right at.
Speaker A:Right atmosphere because the players want to have some fun.
Speaker A:And it is an alternative.
Speaker A:It's like pickleball to tennis.
Speaker B:No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker B:Two more here real quick.
Speaker B:What was your favorite Christmas present?
Speaker A:A month ago, my wife bought me a ton of clothes, to be honest, but I.
Speaker A:Maybe there was a hint there, but.
Speaker A:But yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker A:She has.
Speaker A:I'm actually wearing one of them right now.
Speaker A:This is a very warm weather.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She basically catered for every occasion.
Speaker A:But actually the best present she gave me and she got it off.
Speaker A:Tick tock.
Speaker A:You can actually make a song for someone.
Speaker A:I don't know how she did it.
Speaker A:Someone, you know, said, I don't know the site that she used to.
Speaker A:But it was like where we met some personal things.
Speaker A:And it was put into a country and western songs.
Speaker A:There's two versions.
Speaker A:And that was actually pretty sweet.
Speaker B:Yeah, excellent.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker B:Did you have a standing rib or a prime rib for dinner on Christmas or what did you do?
Speaker A:No, I'm not a prime rib guy, but I did have a slab of meat and it was absolutely pure.
Speaker A:I cooked it.
Speaker B:That's my man.
Speaker B:That's my man.
Speaker B:Okay, Frank, last question.
Speaker B:If I gave you a box with everything you've lost in your life in that box, what would be the first thing you would reach for?
Speaker A:My mind.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:What would be the second thing then?
Speaker B:I think your mind's still pretty.
Speaker B:Pretty good, Frank.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:I grabbed my lawnmower.
Speaker A:Seriously, I. I love.
Speaker A:I mow my own lawn.
Speaker A:When I'm home, I. I love to mow my own lawn.
Speaker A:It's something I've done.
Speaker A:Maybe it comes from New Zealand.
Speaker A:I love the smell of cut grass.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't think I could ever.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:When I'm too old to mow my lawns.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I reach for my lawnmower.
Speaker A:I think it's fun, it's therapeutic.
Speaker B:I gotta tell you something.
Speaker B:I. I grew up on a.
Speaker B:On a small ranch.
Speaker B:Get that?
Speaker B:And I was always used to being outdoors, working.
Speaker B:Even when I was doing this stuff, I'd be in the studio for three or four hours and right back outside.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So we moved.
Speaker B:Sold the ranch, moved to the city.
Speaker B:We don't live in a huge city, but.
Speaker B:And when we looked at this house we were buying, my wife said she looked around, she walked around the front, she walked around the back.
Speaker B:She goes, this is the house.
Speaker B:It's got a Huge kitchen and it's got a huge lawn.
Speaker B:And I get on my, I call myself doing my Forrest Gump thing.
Speaker B:I get on my mower because it's a acre and a half or so.
Speaker A:Oh, so you got a rod on.
Speaker A:That's easy.
Speaker B:Well, and no, and I gotta push, too, for the edges.
Speaker B:But it's a pretty big lawn.
Speaker B:But my point is, I like to make the lines.
Speaker B:You know, I make and, and make sure everything's good and the edges are good.
Speaker B:Then I get my weed eater out and do all that stuff.
Speaker B:And that is very therapeutic.
Speaker B:I can, I can spend a half a day out there doing stuff.
Speaker B:And when I come in, I'm, I'm good.
Speaker B:You know, I enjoy.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's something about grass, too.
Speaker A:And because I think it's pride of your own house, because I travel a lot of people that, they'll trim the hedges and I asked them to cut the grass when we're away.
Speaker A:But, but for me.
Speaker A:And I've had a, you know, like a Taro Flex 21, you know, which is arguably a green mob.
Speaker A:You know, I've had seashore past Bellum Zoysia.
Speaker A:You know, I've had it laid a bunch of different times.
Speaker A:I love, I take pride in the lawn.
Speaker A:And, you know, I was top dressing just the other day.
Speaker A:It was freezing, so I was mixing up some compound compost with some sand and raking it in.
Speaker A:And I don't know, you just, it, it is a little bit like being with nature, but just when you do it and you do it right, I always pick up the clippings.
Speaker A:I put them in there and the guys go and take it away.
Speaker A:But it's, yeah, it's a sense of achievement.
Speaker A:And I think, I think you should clean up your, you know, it's, it's a good habit to clean up your own mess.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Frank Nabalo, CBS Good luck next week.
Speaker B:Good luck this season.
Speaker B:We'll be checking back a little later in the year and you can give us an update.
Speaker B:How's that?
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:Happy New Year, my friend.
Speaker B:That you too.
Speaker B:That's going to wrap it for after hours.
Speaker B:Like I said, Dave Bisbee will be with us next week.
Speaker B:We got a lot of great shows coming up this spring.
Speaker B:We're also going to be broadcasting live from the Portland Golf show and I think the LPGA tournament out here in Portland.
Speaker B:So a lot of fun stuff coming up.
Speaker B:Anyway, for Frank to myself, have a good week.
Speaker B:Go out, play some golf, have some fun.
Speaker B:But most of all, be kind Take care, everybody.
