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[EP 3] Heart of the Father w/ Jeremiah Jones
Episode 318th March 2024 • Authentic Podcast • Christian Searer
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Jeremiah Jones shares his faith journey, emphasizing the heart of God over denominational differences and the abundance of God's presence. He stresses personal scripture engagement and distinguishes between conviction and condemnation, highlighting Christ's righteousness. The conversation addresses obedience to God and Jesus' commandments rooted in love, as well as unity in the church. Jeremiah concludes with a prayer for church unity and reads Ephesians 3:14-21, emphasizing Christ's love and power.

Takeaways:

• Focus on the heart of the Father rather than denominational distinctives.

• Recognize that church is a place to gather and experience the ocean of

God's presence, but we also have access to the ocean throughout the week.

• Come to church with our buckets full and overflowing, ready to pour out

and edify others.

• Understand the significance of God as a Father to the fatherless and the

impact of scripture in our spiritual growth. Deepening our relationship with

God requires a hunger for knowing Him through Scripture.

• Sermons should be seen as an amuse-bouche, inspiring personal

engagement with the Word of God.

• Understanding the difference between conviction and condemnation is

crucial for a healthy walk with God.


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You're tuned into the Authentic Podcast, where we explore the transformative power of embracing the reality of Jesus Christ. As we embark on this journey together, we will navigate the depths of faith and discover the profound impact that Jesus has on our spiritual walk in this space. You will find real and inspiring conversations about faith and how, as a believer, we should navigate the kingdom reality.

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We are excited that you are part of an adventure where authenticity and faith intersect. Welcome to the Authentic Podcast. Let's dive in.

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Saints. I want to give you a warm welcome to the Authentic Podcast. I'm your host, Christian Searer, and I call you Blessed. Loved and not forgotten in this family and this body. You are never alone.

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You have a heavenly Father who is infinitely in love with you, a friend in Jesus, and one in credible comforter named Holy Spirit. May the Lord bless you in today's episode and create an opportunity to become more like him. I have the honor and privilege to have Jeremiah Jones on the Authentic Podcast today. Jeremiah, thank you so much for joining us.

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Man, I'll tell you what, you are an incredible man of faith. You kind of have your hands in a little bit of everything. You are a a father, you are a husband, you are an incredible son. It's even been prophesied an anti war general. Come on. And you're even a filmmaker, dude, you're you're plugged in with a company called Day Docs who tells stories of people all around the world and brings them to life.

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What is it that you do not do, man? If praise God that that's so good. For the time that I've known you, you are always being led by the Holy Spirit. Whatever opportunity that the Lord throws in front of you, I know that you prayerfully take that to the Lord, examine it, and if he's in it, you are all in.

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And that's just something is very beautiful about you in your walk. Jeremiah and I have known each other for quite some time now, and by that I mean like a year with a little over a year. And in that time I've had a lot of conversations with him as well as drives where we've just really dove into the things of the Lord and we've even dissected and taken a look at things in our life that God is doing.

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And I'll tell you what, the wisdom that flows from Jeremiah is absolutely incredible. I always tell him that after I am done discussing whatever the topic is with him, I'm tired. And I don't mean that in the sense of that. When Jeremiah talks like he bores me to death, it's like when he talks, he is just speaking utterances, just profound things that the Lord has given him.

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And there's so much weight on the words that comes out of his spirit in through his mouth. So I'm just forever grateful that you are willing to come on this show today to share with us wisdom, to share with us about your background in history with God. Now, I know that we are on the Authentic podcast, recognize that Jesus Christ is real, and in that reality, as a believer, we are trying to navigate through this thing the best that we can.

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So whatever wisdom and insight that you have for us today to shed some light on how the Lord has been walking you through that, it's just going to add and equip us as saints. So diving into the first question, I don't want to waste any more time. Can you tell me about the first time that Jesus got a hold of you?

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What did that look like? Where were you at? Where weren't you? And what was that encounter like when Jesus really started to get a hold of you in your life?

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wow.

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Come on, dude.

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Wow, man. Well, I just say kudos to you. Like young evangelist Jeremiah literally preaching to the class about Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I mean, that is awesome. But, man, that just breaks my heart to hear the response from the teachers and and the authority there. That's like, Hey, like this. This isn't. We can't talk about Jesus here. This is you need to talk about somebody who is real.

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So like, right there, like that could have been a stumbling block for you as a child, for you as someone who is like young in the faith, to hear from a teacher who you're supposed to look up to and learn from. Like, say, no, Jesus isn't real. Like, wow. So you don't remember that encounter bad?

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Yeah. wow. Whoa! wow. Whoa!

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Come on, dude. Jesus. Come on. And let's go. Man, That that is a good daddy right there. That is heavenly and earthly. Like, for them to be so adamant about taking you up front, receiving prayer, like having that faith time and time again. Because it sounds like it wasn't just once, like it was multiple times where, you know, you were kind of brought before people believing for healing.

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And and it's just so interesting to me now. Healing is such a tricky topic because God doesn't always do it the same way every single time. And we know that Jesus, he was like a perfect conduit for healing. So whether the person had faith or not, like I think about the guy at the pool of Bethesda where he was like, Do you even want to be healed?

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And he's like, I've been laying here for 40 years and Jesus like, Yeah, but you want to pick up your Bible? Been no one takes me to the water and you know, he's like, Do you want to be? And it's like, Jesus had the faith and he was the perfect conduit that he said, Pick up your mat and walk.

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And he was made whole. But then there's other instances, you know, where like Blind Man, Bada Mary cried out. He's like, Heal me, heal me like Son of David, like, have mercy on me. Or the woman with the issue of blood to touch the tassel of Jesus's garment and was healed. And we even see Jesus, you know, quoting in or saying things like, It's your faith that has made you whole.

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And I don't want to get too much into the nitty gritty and teaching into healing today. But it is interesting that you came to a place where in your heart you surrendered and yielded to whatever the Lord wanted to do. Do you have any like revelation or are you able to speak into that moment at all?

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Wow.

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So, like, coming coming from a Nazarene background for those that aren't aware of different, like, denominations or what that could be like. And a denomination would be something like assemblies of God or Methodists or Brethren in Christ or this Nazarene. What was the atmosphere at that Nazarene church that you grew up in? Sure.

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Okay.

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Okay. Sure.

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Wow. So you transitioned. So you transitioned out of the Nazarene Church into this Pentecostal church. Like what? What was that transition? And I know that you were young here, and I know that you might not have contacts. Or maybe you have better context for what all took place. Now is like an adult and mature in your faith.

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But what was that transition like going from Nazarene to Pentecostal, or did you see like a transition in your family and yourself? Were you like, These guys are weird. Like, I know there had to be a little bit of a struggle to get you to a place where it's like, Okay, this isn't my father's faith, this isn't my mother's faith, or the person who's praying for me.

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This seems like the Lord was taking you through a journey to get you to a place that it's like, okay, God, I believe that I'm going to stand on my faith and my relationship with you. So, like what? Going from a Nazarene to a Pentecostal. What was that like? Come on. Wow. Praise God.

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Yeah.

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At least you're honest. I love that. If. Amen.

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Whoa.

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Hey, man, Come on. Oof!

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Come on. Wow.

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Yeah. Come on. Praise God.

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So before. Before we dive into the Father a little bit, and I believe that the center, aside from quip equipping the Saints in this episode today, I think the center of our topic is going to be based around the heart of the father or keeping the heart of the father at a center place. And we we may even allude to it or even dive into it at times.

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But I can just it's so good to see, like your background into this place where it was spoken to you that God is the father to the fatherless. And this is cool because I'm learning this about you right now. Like, I didn't know that that intimate detail about your walk. So, like, I just I love this coming from that place.

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And you do have a very apostolic it is a calling that is on your life and an apostolic viewpoint, a very foundational, where Christ is the cornerstone, where he is the foundation of the church, where you can take a look at things like different denominations and you don't see it like you just see people that love Jesus. And if you want to worship like this, worship like that, if you want to jump or not, you know, jump or not, like you don't look at it like one person has the truth or not.

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And I just I love that about you. And I honor that about you as something that's very unique that the Lord has given you a lens for. Because a lot of times and it's a sad truth, but like, if a pastor were to fall or a pastor were to step out of a church, some congregation congregants would leave because that pastor is no longer there because they were going to church for the pastor and not for Jesus.

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Or the same thing with worship, where their identity is in worship and they go into a new place and maybe the worship doesn't isn't quality, maybe the sound isn't perfect, maybe the keys are off a little bit and there isn't smoke, lasers and lights, and they're like, I just can't get into worship. And it's like, I don't I just I don't see that.

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I don't see how you can't get into worshiping God. The father like he It doesn't matter if the keys are off or not. Like I read in the in the Bible where the disciples were imprisoned and and shackled in chains and they worship God. Now, the acoustics probably weren't the best in there, and their spirits were definitely a little low, I would imagine, but they still praise God so I just would challenge those listening that if you are thrown off by a worship leader or a or an atmosphere, it's okay to test the spirits.

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The Bible says to test the spirits may maybe there is something a little weird there. But when it comes down to it, no matter the place or the time, you should still be able to worship God. You still should be able to come in to that place because it's not based on anybody else. It's not based on circumstances is Jeremiah's alluding to.

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It's based on your relationship with God, your relationship with the father. And out of that place stems all of the fruits of the spirit. Wow. Jeremiah, this. This is so good. Do you have something to, like, speak into this?

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Okay.

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Sure.

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yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Come on, you big old dump truck, man.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Wow. You mad or. wow. Yes, Right.

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boy. Yes. Right.

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now. boy.

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Wow.

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man.

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You know, Jeremiah, I feel like there is such a grace right now. And I believe that people are getting set free from religious doctrine. I think people are receiving right now revelation from Holy Spirit. Like, man, I grew up in a church like that. And I thought that the church was Jesus. I didn't realize that they had rules, that they set things secondary things that took focus off of Christ and one to the bucket instead of the contents thereof.

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And I just I really believe that people are just receiving right now some revelation like, Hey, man, have I been focused on the bucket or the contents therein? Like, so this this is such a good and timely word. And I love the imagery that the Lord has given you to describe the church and different forms that it comes.

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And it are all a rusty pail, are all a gold vat, you know. But no, like we, we have and I know I'm kind of relating that to some scripture, but like we all have the same Holy Spirit. And I know that it talks about faith, joy or faith, love and joy. I mean, I got to look up that reference.

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It's in First Corinthians, but the greatest among them is is love. You know, out of all things like it's it's accompanied by some really good things. But love is what stands out. And if a church if a bucket is not operating out of love, then then you get things like what happened, your mom and that's us. And that's just sad because yeah, that is a blessing.

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That is a blessing to other moms and parents and people who want to sit in on a service and learn about the Lord. But the sad reality is when man steps into something, there's always a possibility that it's going to falter or fall short, or it needs to come to a place of humbling or renewing because we're imperfect vessels.

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Wow, man, that is. Come on. Wow, Wow, wow. This is true. Sure, Sure. Amen.

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That's right. Come on. Who do you know? And I have my Bible. And right now, John, 17, because there is a scripture in here that I want to read. I'm so anxious to see what it is you're going to read. I my gosh.

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Yes.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Amen.

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Wow. come on. Correct. Man. Come on.

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Amen. I man, I think I think that a lot of people a lot of people go to church with their bucket because we are all buckets. We're all vessels. Okay? Now, the church, naturally, is a larger bucket. It has a lot of people that it is shepherding over overseeing, you know, who they are that the Lord has placed in charge of.

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So their bucket is going to be a little bit larger, if you will, with with their reach. The reach is going to be a little bit larger, their ministries a little bit larger. But you have individual buckets. And in the beautiful thing about our spirit, man, now, our physical man can only get so big. We can only eat so much left, so many weights, you know, runs too many.

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Like we can only get as big is what the Lord created us to be. But our spirit man, our bucket, our ministry, it can grow and grow and grow and there's no cap on it. There's always more in Christ from glory to glory, From faith to faith, hope to hope. He's continually growing us. He is a never ending source of living water.

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So this church goes to the source, goes to living water. They're being filled up. But I think what a lot of people neglect in the church is that they are not coming with their buckets full and overflowing. They are coming with their buckets empty and they're dipping into the living water that's at the church. And there's nothing wrong with dipping into the living water that's at the church.

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And it is a place, I believe that as a place for fellowship and communion and, you know, sharing stories and revelation and testimonies like there is a place in a very beautiful thing takes place when we come together as believers. But if we're coming with our buckets empty and we're only taking and taking and taking and we never come to the place where we're giving and pouring out, that that's not good.

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And you, you alluded to this that some believers, they come on Sunday mornings and that's their time with the Lord and they get their little fill up, their little fix. And by the time they come again on Sunday, their buckets empty and they're ready to dip back into the ocean. But they don't have to wait until Sunday morning to do that.

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. You hit it right? And. John:

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I was going to read Praise God. But like as the Father has said, the son the son has also sent us in his likeness, you know, to be conformed into an image like Jesus. And he desires that we become one with him like the Father and him are one. And my goodness, if we showed up on Sunday morning in a relationship where our buckets are full in communion with him, what would Sunday mornings look like when when everybody is overflowing?

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Well, then there's room for the to outpour. There's room for, you know, ministry times and edification and and there's room to grow, as is the church and dive into things that are not menial or not secondary things like you need to speak in tongues to be you know in charge of the children are not like you know, we could be living as one in Christ, edifying each other and uplifting one another.

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And I think that's where radical transformation happens. And I've heard this time and time again. But it starts with yourself, guys. It starts with you dip into the ocean. And throughout the week, I challenge you guys that are listening and gals who are listening to dip your Bucket into the ocean throughout the week, midweek. Do a day, do a day more than what you have been doing.

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And when you show up at church on Sunday, I think it's going to really change your view of is the worship good or not? Is the teaching, is the sermon good or not? Because when you come full of the Holy Ghost, filled with the father's perspective of, as Jeremiah says, you're going to start to realize the bucket isn't that important.

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It's the contents therein man. Dude. Wow, this is good. I can't believe that we came up with this. I mean, I can. It's the same. It's the same spirit, man, the same scripture. And I do want to dive into that, but I know that there's something for us that we left just a little bit ago, and that is God is dad to you fought The father is the father to the fatherless.

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The God is the father to the fatherless. And I want you to to to speak into that a little bit. And I know and there's a verse that I was alluding to that kind of pairs with this, and I'm just going to read that in First Corinthians 13. It's 11 to 13. When I was a child, I talked like a child.

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I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror. Then we shall see face to face. I know in part, Then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain faith, hope and love.

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But the greatest of these is love. So I, to me, in my journey as I have been adopted into the family of Christ and have become a Son of God, the Father and stepped into this glorious inheritance when I when I was a child and I was immature in my faith, I didn't know about, like denying myself. I didn't know really about going to God and asking him to reveal hidden stuff in my heart that could be weeded out.

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I didn't know how to mature in Christ. I was still holding on to childish things. And let's just even say, like, you know about like the secondary things, the bucket looking at the outside and not the inward and focusing on the heart. So when you started to go through the grieving process of losing your father, you've transitioned out of the Nazarene kind of sensation, less, not really believing in the guests are talking much about it to Pentecostal, where now there's like healing and things like that taking place.

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This the the word that was spoken to you that the father is a father to the fatherless or God is a father to the father less like how did that start to transform you? Immature, mature you because that was spoken before the healing happened, correct? Yeah. Amen. Come on. Yes. Amen. Wow. And that that's so good to know him.

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And, like, the Bible is his love letter to us. Like, these are Holy Spirit inspired words. Like, if, you know, just as we're in John 17 and John 14, 15, 16, 17, all of those are incredible chapters about our identity, about who God is, who we are to God, who He should be to us. And 17 like talking about that oneness in Christ.

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If you want to know God, what better way than to read His word? And I think this is something that's overlooked a lot of times and where we can, you know, maybe supplement us reading, you know, hearing a sermon on Sunday. But it doesn't it the like, if you want to really partake of that sermon, you'll be in your word, you'll be taking those notes, diving into the scripture surrounding that scene, how like the Holy Spirit may be led the pastor to of that word.

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And the only way that we can really get to the heart of the father know our identity. We have to be in his word. We have to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. So a what? What what is it? A muse, Blues, dobro. Wow. Amen. What? Wow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Man, I just. I really feel the Lord on that word, amused Bush.

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And I've never heard that before. But one thing that he was speaking to my spirit as you were talking, I almost get the sense that he was showing me that salvation is an amused Bush, that communion is an amused Bush, like, yes, this is important. It's part of the meal. It's leading you into the other courses. But this is just the beginning.

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Like this is this Salvation is just getting your foot in the door. There's a whole world to explore. Once you are in there, once you are saved, like to know Jesus is savior. Praise God. You got to know Him as Savior, but to know Him as Lord or Redeemer or healer or deliver, or like there are other layers and levels to Jesus.

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And looking at just like the five fold ministry, right there is five different attributes and characteristics that Jesus gave to the church as gifts of himself, to the church that says like, hey, like there's pastors and prophets and, teachers and evangelists and shepherds. Like there's more than just the pastor, there's more than just an evangelist, there's more than just a teacher, and there's this whole world to explore.

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And I just I really felt him saying, like, communion and salvation is an amuse boost, guys. Like there is more to me dive deeper, get into my word and start like acting this out because like, Jesus is always like, applicable. There's things about him that you can apply to your life and walk out. And I just I feel the sense of today's podcast is about maturing it while keeping a center on when the father's heart here, I really feel like there's a push to mature in the body of Christ as the bridegroom bride to mature in in Unity is one that who goes to the ocean, fills up their bucket, but doesn't just go to

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churches to fill up. Wow. I really feel like the Lord is encouraging us to get into a relationship with them. I imagine that it sounds like something he would say or or impress on someone's heart. Well, okay. wow. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Start from the beginning, man. Wherever you feel led. Okay. Okay. So, like a lifestyle.

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Okay. Yeah. Right. Whoa. Wow. Whoa. Come on. Guess I couldn't tell a man. Jampacked a flavor. I agree for sure. man. Amused viewers.

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Matthew chapter seven versus:

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On that day, many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and cast out demons in your name and do many mighty works in your name? And then will I declare to them, I never knew you depart from me, you workers of Lawless ness. So here they are doing all of the spiritual things, the amazing mere miracles and fifteens and prophesying and casting out demons.

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They're doing things that looks like what Jesus did, but out of relationship with them and out of the will of the Father without having the heart of the Father, because they're doing these works in their own flesh and God's word is always true. His power will always remain forever. So there are things that we can do or say outside of relationship with God, and His Word does not return void.

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The Sons of Shiva sent them on naked of Rodney, screaming like little girls bloodied because those signs were not signs of the most high. Those sons were sons of disobedience. In this verse say that they were workers of lawlessness, even though they were trying to cast out demons in Jesus name. They were doing it outside of a relationship with him.

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So if we are in relationship with God, if we are truly saved, we are going to do the will of the father who is in heaven. We are going to know him. We are going to see him. Guys, do not try to do stuff out of your own flesh. It will get you know where one thing that the Lord spoke to me and I know that this is just so true.

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He said, Christian, if you got what you deserved, you would go to hell. And I'm like, Ouch, God, that's that's a little harsh. But there is because he speaks and truth and grace and here is the grace part. He said, You got what you were worth. You got what you, you, you got redemption, you got justification, you got sanctification.

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Like you are redeemed. Like you didn't get what you deserved, but you got what you were worth. So on the flip side of living a life of sin and maybe not believing in Jesus or walking in ways not according to his will and righteousness. On the flip side of that is a very redemptive and loving God. But He is a just judge.

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He is someone whose wrath is. It's still hanging over your head. If you don't believe in God. And it's not that God is is someone to be feared in the sense of that you're afraid of him, but you're supposed to fear him in the sense of looking up to him as if he were somebody. I don't want to necessarily use president as the term here, but someone who's a very like authority of respected person, who has a lot of authority or a lot of authority, someone who can throw your your your soul in to heaven or hell after your body is done away with is someone who is to be respected and worshiped.

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Yeah. So just get to know him. Long story short on that time, just get to know him. But I do want to come back to that root that is built around this salvation. I know we are talking about getting in God's Word and how salvation is this amused? Bush It's just a taste of like, what is to come the goodness of God in the land of the living, like what he has for us.

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And I feel like, as you heard that God, that Abba was now your father as you were building up some scriptural reference around, sounds like who Jesus is, what he said, who you are, you were learning it for yourself. Then you have this encounter where you're on three different forms of matter of matter medicine that you were taking three times a day epilepsy and you ran up four many times for healing.

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But it came to this point where you said, Hey, God, I'm going to stand on my faith today. I'm going to believe and healing for myself today. And you went forward and you received healing. It was not just an experience for you at that point. Had a frame of reference and a little bit of context surrounding what had happened right?

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Yeah. I'm sorry. I know it's a lot. We have such a heavy topic here. There is so much like I don't see a 100 different avenues that this could go, but I do want to bring it back to like your walk with Christ, your walk as you were stepping through because an experience outside of a relationship is just that.

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It's an experience, but with relationship, you know, that adds eternal value. Man. There's so much way. Amen. Sure, Sure. Yeah. He, he chastises those who he loves or something like that. Yeah. Who? sure. Yeah. Come on. Right. That's so important. Yes. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. Wow. Yeah. Hey, come on. And while. Yeah. All right, Come on.

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Wow. Wow. Whoa. Yeah. Ooh! Can you speak into that a little bit, Jeremiah? Because I know that there is such an importance and a need. This is something that we need as the body of Christ to understand the difference between conviction and condemnation. And and I think about, like, Romans eight one where it says there's no more guilty verdict, no more condemnation or shame for those who are in Christ Jesus.

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And if that is our reality, if if God's is true and there is no more condemnation, guilty verdict, shame, none of that. Why how how is it that we put that on ourselves sometimes and I think that is coming from a place of not truly understanding the difference between conviction and condemnation. So if you could, could you speak in to conviction versus condemnation?

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However, the Lord leads you and some like keys are wisdom that you've learned throughout that where maybe it clicked for you in you're like, are Whoa. Yeah. That's so good. Sure. Right. Sure. Yeah. man. Yeah, True. Yeah. Amen. Sure. Yes. Yeah. Come on. What do we do with that? We just don't read.

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We don't. We don't read or preach. Yeah, we don't read or preach on that verse. All right? We just set that one aside. We don't touch it. We don't bring that up. It's not part of our doctor. And we just. We set that one aside, right? my gosh. Yeah. That's right. man. Right. Come on, Jeremiah.

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Yes, man. Right. yes, Yes. Yeah. Man. Which is, which is such a false identity of who we are. And Christ, like Christ, calls us a workmanship more than a conqueror, a citizen of having a friend of Jesus, an heir of the throne. Like, I just I mean, my goodness, like the amount of things that he says that we are, it is unbelievable.

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And I think this is just such a good word, Jeremiah, because so many people struggle with condemnation versus conviction. And James, I think as James says, like, you know, blessed are those who are corrected by God. You know, it's a good thing that God is correcting you because. He's maturing you, he's growing you. And that isn't always that isn't always comfortable.

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You know, I just think about like as a child, when my dad would correct and say, no, like, don't put your hand on the stove. And even if I didn't listen to my dad, I'd still put my hand on the stove and it was hot. My hand would get burnt. It's like there was a learning and a process there that wasn't comfortable.

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At times it did hurt, but ultimately I matured and I knew not do that and the reasons why. And then I understood that my dad wasn't just putting some silly rule on me to put a rule on me. He was doing to protect me. He was doing it for the benefit of my good. And as the more than I got paddled and snagged and learned on my own.

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Now this is just me and my walk over the years goes a little bit smoother. And hopefully the wisdom that Jeremiah's dropping for you guys like your walk goes a little bit smoother as well. Learn from our mistakes. But as I got paddled and as I put my hand on the stove, it then became easier to trust my father and know his intentions were good for.

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And instead of me rebelling and pushing back, it was it was just easier for me to step into it because one way or another, like if you wrestle with God, he's to win. It's just so much better to yield to him and to die to self and to put off your old self and step into that righteousness which is in Christ and to continue in Romans eight at the end, towards the end of Romans eight and verses 38 and 39, it says, for I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to

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separate us from the love of God, which is in who Christ Jesus our Lord. So we have all, we have love, we have righteousness, we have sanctification and and redemption through Christ Jesus, which was completed by that amused Bush one on the cross. And I don't even want to degrade like the cross, because the cross is so paramount to our walk in relationship with Jesus, with Holy Spirit, with Abba, Father without the Cross, we would not be who we are today.

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And This is not lesson in the completed works of the cross. That is the power of Jesus defeating death on the cross. That is the power that everything steps out of. But from the forgiveness of our sins is X, Y, and Z Is that redemption and sanctification and righteousness. It's all of the promises that as we continue to abide in him.

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John 15 is we continue to become one with him. John 17 To follow him. You know, Jesus himself said we will do greater works than he. And that is incredible. And either God's word is true or it's not. And if Jesus himself is saying we'll do greater works and he and the Amplified says in extent and outreach. So some people think we're going to do crazier miracles.

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Some people think it is going to be to all ends of the earth, which we definitely know that's going to be true, that the gospel we be preached to all ends of the earth. However, that is meant, I just find it unbelievable. But it should be a believable statement. I'm just going to redact that. I just find that a wild statement that Jesus said that we need to to believe and step into and not by anything on our own strength, but through Christ, who is our strength, who is our righteousness.

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Through him, we have hope and joy and our salvation. man, What in a quippy in podcast, this is Jeremiah. You're just coming in with so much wisdom just stemming from your walk. It's incredible to hear how the Lord has taken you and transform you and how you had these ideologies that really set you back. But like you wrestled with God and He did, when you know his truth came to the forefront in you, but you did allow that to permeate out of you, to allow the Holy Spirit to renew your mind and ultimately to believe it as fact.

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And this all stemmed from the word love mad like, well, not all from love. It is all out of love, man. This is so good. And for those of you who are listening on audio, he he pointed to his head into his heart. He's saying going from head knowledge to heart knowledge and like really understanding and knowing that truth and Christ.

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Whoa. Hey. Amen. Yeah. So true. man. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. And and it does go on to say, because I feel like just a little void that Holy Spirit wants me to fill here. Paul does go on to say like this, this freedom that we have in Christ, because now we're underneath the law of life.

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No longer the law but the law of life. Since Christ came and he fulfilled the law. And it's like we don't abolish or throw out the law. We still respect the law. We understand that the rules, the the law, the regulations like that allows to know, hey, we're sitting that that's convection. Like, hey, we did something wrong here.

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We need to turn away from that lifestyle and point in the other direction. But because we so much freedom in Christ, we've been brought out into an open space in Christ that does not give us a hall pass to go into said that does not give us a hall pass to go and practice looking at things on the internet that we shouldn't be looking at or going out bars regularly or living a lifestyle outside of a wife.

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You know, just because we have this free dom in Christ, it does not give us a hall pass to go and insane. And I just felt like. Jeremiah That was like just a little missing light because. We're talking about the heart of the father. And and I think exactly what you're saying is like that. That's your flesh. Like you're abiding and Christ Christ is the one that's going to the work in you.

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But as you're, you know, obeying him and stepping into this thing, yeah, the flesh is going to rear its ugly head. If you stumble, if you fall. Okay, like we're not saying go in sin. I think my pastor, he said it best. He said if you're going to fall fall towards the cross, if you're going to fall, make sure that you're continually pursuing Christ.

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And once again, it's not that he was condoning that I would go and sin. He's just saying, whatever you do, the steady, the constant that is in your life, make you are following Christ, make sure you are abiding in his word that you're going to the secret place, that your don't take your eyes off of Jesus. If you happen to stumble and fall, there's grace, there's mercy and there's love.

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And you know, and I've said this in other podcasts, we're not here to preach hyper grace. God is very merciful. He has a lot of grace for us, more space than what we could imagine, because we are very hard on his self and he does want the best for us. So is that tug of war between being hard on self and having grace with with us?

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But he is a judge and he is just and he wants us to continue and abide in his laws, in his righteousness, in his precepts. So like, yeah, there is a space as we're continuing and maturing in Christ, but don't go explore that space with the wrong heart posture. Yeah. Sure. Right.

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So, Jeremiah, we're talking about this place where the father has a for us, where he is going to chastise the ones that that he loves, that he's going to take us through this place where it's like, okay, we know that we shouldn't be doing this, but there's a room, there's a space, there's grace for this.

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But out of out of abiding in him and loving him, we start to look more like him, right? How does like how did that look in your walk as you are learning condemnation and conviction and the truths behind Romans eight?

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That's good. Wow. Yeah. Come on. Wow. True.

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Okay. Come on. What? It's not all. It's not all rainbows and sparkles and sunshine. Why? Praise God. Wow. That's good. Yeah, man, that that's. That's so good. I absolutely love and I believe that it's in those moments because a lot of times God brings things to the surface that are of ourselves, is of our flesh that He wants us to get rid of.

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And I and it's so interesting that you said that it's like when we start to follow Jesus, it's like these things get amplified. There's moments where they, like, get amplified and it's like, What is that? I thought I dealt with that or I didn't know that I had this root of bitterness or where is this anger coming from?

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And it's these hidden places that that are in us that the enemy has come and sowed lies. Where, where, where residing, where he's trying to keep us from growing in Christ. And sometimes it's not even the enemy. Sometimes it's just us, our flesh, that that I've, like, adopted certain things that is holding us back from becoming more Christ like.

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And I think that's Jesus says you must deny yourself and pick up your cross daily. Like if you want to follow me, you need to deny yourself. It's not by chance that we have baptism where we die. The Bible says that we died with Christ, that we were buried with Christ, that we rose Christ, that we ascended with Christ and were seated with Him in Heaven.

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Like it's so true that our old nature and self needs to die. And I know that you were talking about something earlier, Jeremiah, about like following the precepts of the Lord. And I want to get into that in a second. But it's so interesting that you use the stock market analogy, like the highs and lows. The other day I saw this and somebody took like CAD, like computer aided drafting and and they created like a like a rolling hill, like a highs and a low and then they had like a straight line and A to B and they had this one on an equal plane like they were it was level and then they tilted

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it just a little bit. So both of them would be going downhill. So if you were to be standing at the top of the 8ab, you'd be looking downhill. And if you were to standing at the top of the the valleys, the highs would be looking downhill, both at the same angle and degree. And what they did was they took a digital ball the same amount of weight, same physics that were being applied to both.

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And they started the ball at the top of the A and B and top of the and they released the ball. And by golly, would it not be true that the ball went through the valleys in the hills, ended up B-team, the ball that went straight to A and B and it just it it really sat me back in my spirit and I'm like, my goodness.

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Like, we need the crushing, we need the chastisement we need for these ugly things to come out side of us. And sometimes those words you call a dark night of the soul, those crashes, not that they're favorable or we want those, but it's in those moments that James says, Count it, Joy Brothers, sisters, that you go through trials and tribulations, because the whole point of our walk is to look more like Jesus.

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The whole point is to is to worship him, which comes out of a place of maturity, which comes out of a place of renewing and refining ourselves while the Lord renews and refines us out of a place of a healthy fear, love and reverence for him. And back, back like to the beginning of the podcast. God cares about the heart.

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God cares about the posture of the heart at the end of the day. So if we love Jesus, we will follow his precepts. Do you have any insight or wisdom into what that looks like in this Walk with Christ? Yeah. wow. Yeah, wow. Yeah. Amen. That's good. man, that's a good word, right? Come on. wow.

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Dude. Yeah. Wow. Wow. man. Wow, Wow. Yeah, sure. man. And wow. That's right. Yes. sure. Please do. This is so good. You're just. You're blowing my mind right now because I actually looked at, like, the precepts is like the commands of the Lord. Like, not that I looked at it as a legalistic type of way or, like, a guilt trip, but I was like, man.

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Like, there are these things that we ought to be doing as a Christian and man, like the revelation that the Lord has given you on this because his is burdened, his yoke easy and his burden is light. That's yeah, that's the way that is like and the way that you broke down the commands, the precepts of what God is saying here.

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good which is what does John:

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Yeah. There are things that are conditional where it's like, okay, do this. But it's out of that place that he knows what is best for us. It's out of a place that isn't taking life, but giving life. It's. It's not, you know, putting stumbling in front of us. It's removing those obstacles. It's by walking that narrow path with the Lord like he does truly know what is best for us.

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And I remember, like when I was drinking and not that I would really drink to get drunk. And I did have a stage in college and I didn't. I said that I wasn't an alcoholic, I was just a college student. But no matter how I justified it, I drank way, way too much. But coming out of that place like as I was maturing, I would drink but not get to the place where I was drunk.

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And I had this incredible encounter with the Lord Jeremiah. And he actually visited me in a in a fleeting dream. It was a waking dream. It was about five or 6 seconds long, and in that place it was Jesus. And he wasn't in like, robes and like, shining white bright like, like he just came to me very humbly and he was kind of in like, traditional clothing, like you would see back in the day, like the disciples might wear.

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And as I was waking up from this dream, he was getting like, further and further away from me, and I was becoming more and more conscience. But in that 5 seconds he said to me, he said, Christian, it would be to everybody's best interest if you didn't drink anymore. And that was the dream. He visited me and he presented to me.

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And it wasn't like Christians stop drinking, it was you. You have an option. I see from an internal perspective. I can see the of your life to the end of the life of your life. And you're at a crossroad right now, Christian. You can keep drinking and some will be benefited or you could stop drinking and many is going to be benefited.

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And it was like this gentle nudge. And as such, I mean, it was Jesus like it is such his heart. It'll be like, Hey, here's a better option for you. I'm not forcing you to do this. You have free will. It's on own to make this choice. But come to me, like, allow me to take your hand and guide you through this.

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Don't do it on your own strength. Don't stay in your old ways. There's something better for you. So, yeah, when you're talking about these commands and precepts and you broke them down the way that the Lord revealed them to you, I'm like, Yes, yes, yes, like it. Is it like this guilt trip parent hammering you on their head, like, you know, tricking you into something.

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It's this loving way of saying, hey, here's here's some things here, some and I don't even want to call them rules, but things that you should abide by which naturally flow from your love for me as you're abiding and me and like this is how you walk it out with the Lord and that that's that's so good. That's so Jesus.

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I love how you I love how you put that. Jeremiah. Hey, we're coming towards the last couple segments here, and I have two questions for you, Jeremiah And the first one is prophetically, what is the Lord doing in the earth in this time in this season in the Body of Christ? What is he saying and what is he doing?

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And how can we partner with that as believers, as, as part of Christ's body?

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Yeah. Amen. Yeah. The big our big C. Yeah. Come on. Invited me to. Wow. my. Wow. Yes. Amen. Wow. Yeah. Got wow. Amen. Wow. What a humble response. I mean, gosh, that is just so you, bro. Like you have.

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You carry such the heart of the father with you is so meek and humble. And I do love the moments of zeal that come out of you for the Lord, but you were just in a low, like, low lane place and in such a beautiful way, like you truly like the things of God is, is way higher than you.

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And like you count yourself like like less than than others. Not in a false sense, but in a sense of like, you're here to serve. And I just I absolutely love that about you. And I really thank you for sharing where you were how you got there, what you been through the keys that that you've learned throughout your walk of Christ.

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I believe that today many people are going to be set free from religion, that their ideologies, because they're man's ideologies, are going to crumble and God is going to reestablish who he in the hearts of those who are listening. And I just I know that there's power and weight on what you're sharing because it's authentic. It's true. It's something that you walk through with the Lord that he has been teaching you.

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And I can just feel the weight of his glory on it. The last question and and it could be exactly what you just shared. What is your biggest prayer and would you be willing to pray over the audience? Wow. Amen. Right. man. Yeah. man, that is. That is beautiful, bro. I wish we all had a hard cry like that, that we all, you know, had a prayer life that that is seeking that unity in Christ.

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Jeremiah, thank you so much for, for sharing that that intimate, deep heart cry of yours man I blessed that I blessed that in you. I blessed that tenfold. And you, man. Lord, like may it be like let it be that that Jeremiah like a cease pray that sees that come to pass and I'm just going to pull it from that scripture that we were talking about, you know, ask in my name and it will be given to you.

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And Lord, I'm just I'm going to stand on your word on this one. God, may it be that what Jeremiah asks, it's given to him because, man, man, what a beautiful body that would be. Jeremiah, would you please pray over the audience and just in? Just bless them, brother. Amen. And a man. Amen. Amen. Jeremiah, that was beautiful.

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I thank you so much for praying over the listeners, guys. Jeremiah Jones, he is a a business owner, a filmmaker, a storyteller, a father, a dear friend in the faith, general in the faith. Man, It's just been such a pleasure having you on. I'll put a link in the bio to check out detox and the awesome things that they have going on over there.

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Jeremiah, thank you again for your wisdom and we'll catch you on the next one

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So great. Thank you so much for having me, Christian.

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