We're excited to kick off the New Year with the unique perspective of Jason Torres Altman from TerraLuna Collaborative. Jason has devoted his entire career to evaluating education programs that address inequity in schools and communities. In this conversation with Elana Leoni, CEO at Leoni Consulting Group (LCG), Jason discusses the power of data in education and EdTech, the expected results of evaluation, and the limitations of what's possible. With his grasp of details, compassion for the disadvantaged, and characteristic blend of humor and humility, he makes the wonky science of evaluation understandable.