What does it actually feel like to give up a 35-year London career, say yes to a seven-acre farm you’ve never run before, inherit fifteen animals you’ve never looked after, and move to a county you’ve never lived in, all in under four months? Nicky Cooper is about to tell you.
Nicky is one of Sarah’s 2026 bootcampers and the new owner of Tredarrup Farm Holiday Cottages: a stunning North Cornwall farmstead near Port Isaac with four converted holiday cottages, fifteen animals (sheep, goats, running ducks and more), and views over the Allen Valley that she describes as genuinely hard to put into words. She moved in just a few months ago, having first spotted the property in September last year and fallen completely in love with it on the very first visit.
In this conversation, Nicky shares the story behind the leap: from her corporate sales and management background, the slow-building restlessness that made her start googling “places in Cornwall with holiday potential” on a bad day at work, and how an accidental Savills recommendation led her to a property that was over budget, completely off-brief and absolutely perfect.
They talk about the very practical side of buying an established holiday business: why taking on a going concern rather than building from scratch was so important, how to find these properties (more straightforward than you might think), why having a solicitor who understands both commercial and agricultural conveyancing matters and the huge advantage of inheriting existing goodwill, guest databases and marketing assets.
Nicky is also brilliantly honest about the learning curve: the never-ending to-do list, the tech stack that suddenly has no IT department behind it, the challenges of going from colleagues to business partners with the person you live with and the importance of scheduling time off-site before the business completely takes over.
She talks about how coaching has helped her stay grounded, why community (like the bootcamp) has been invaluable when things get lonely and why a sense of humour has proved just as essential as any business skill.
If you’re a host who’s ever wondered what it’s really like to make the leap, or if you’re thinking about it and want a genuinely honest account from someone in the thick of it, this one is for you.
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Speaker A:Hello again.
Speaker A:I'm back with another episode of the Get Fully Booked podcast.
Speaker A:I'm your host today, Sarah Orchard.
Speaker A: elighted to welcome one of my: Speaker A:I thought many other listeners might resonate with Nikki's journey into hosting and also those thinking of coming into hosting might be wondering if it is for them.
Speaker A:So Nikki will be able to share some her own journey and how that's been for her.
Speaker A:Welcome to the podcast, Nikki.
Speaker B:Hi, Sarah.
Speaker B:And thank you for having me.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's great to have you here.
Speaker A:So I thought we'd start first with just a little bit for the listeners, an intro, sort of.
Speaker A:We're going to talk about your background before you came into hosting, but tell us a little bit more about your new business.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:So it's called Tredarup Farm Holiday Cottages.
Speaker B:It's a farmstead, small holding in North Cornwall near to Port Isaac.
Speaker B:It's a seven acre plot with four holiday cottages that have been converted from old stables and a farmhouse where we live on site and 7 acres with 15 animals including sheep, goats, running ducks and some birds.
Speaker B:And it's beautiful.
Speaker B:We've got a view over the Allen Valley and it's a very, very beautiful plot.
Speaker A:Wonderful.
Speaker A:And when did you take ownership of that?
Speaker A:Sounds fantastic.
Speaker B:We moved in in February, so less than three months ago.
Speaker B:We first saw it in September last year and fell in love with it.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Love at first sight, really.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker A:Well, I've seen the website and I haven't seen it in person yet but I'm hoping to very soon because it does look absolutely stunning and it's a part of the world.
Speaker A:Poor Isaac is lovely.
Speaker A:So did you inherit all the animals as well?
Speaker A:Did they come with the purchase?
Speaker B:Everything came with it.
Speaker B:We were offered the animals.
Speaker B:Yeah, we were offering, offered the animals and we said yes.
Speaker B:We said yes to everything.
Speaker B:We were all in, all in.
Speaker A:And have you looked after animals like that before?
Speaker A:Is that new as well?
Speaker B:Never.
Speaker B:We have.
Speaker B:We had absolutely no idea what we were doing and we kind of are learning on the job and there's still a lot we don't know.
Speaker B:Everything is New to us.
Speaker B:Including Cornwall.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:So where were you living before?
Speaker B:We were living in South London.
Speaker B:I'd been in London for 35 years, I've been in South London for 20 of those.
Speaker B:And yeah, it was a real change from city to coast.
Speaker A:A real slowdown by the sounds of it, living in that part of London and then moving to, you know, deepest, darkest Cornwall.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Real, absolute change of life.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker A:So what was your background before?
Speaker A:What were you doing before?
Speaker B:So I worked in sales, management in various business to business sectors, trade, press, financial services and then software for the kind of higher education sector.
Speaker B:So completely different to where we are now.
Speaker B:A lot of face to face with clients, people, management, working with teams, a lot of juggling, a lot of deadlines and I loved the job and I loved living in South London.
Speaker B:I travelled a lot, which I also loved and I was also a single mum so there was a lot of juggling.
Speaker B:Bringing up a small boy, he's not so small now.
Speaker B:And absolutely loved it.
Speaker B:Really loved working very corporate environments and fast paced and busy and I loved it until I didn't.
Speaker B:And yeah, my work life changed.
Speaker B:I just got to the point where I wasn't enjoying it and then I got to the point where I felt miserable and there was more to life.
Speaker B:I think there were more opportunities, there was more something out there that I wanted to explore.
Speaker B:So it was kind of quite a bit pivotal moment, a complete change.
Speaker A:I can, I can identify with that because I, I very much thought I was going to stay in my corporate career and become like a marketing director and then a board director and then the more senior I got, I was like, there's certain bits of this I don't like anymore and I want something to do, something different.
Speaker A:And I think suddenly like sometimes you can just wake up one day and think, I don't want to do this anymore, there must be something else.
Speaker A:But you sound like you've got lots of fantastic skills.
Speaker A:You obviously like people, which I think is massive.
Speaker A:Plus in running hospitality, I think some people do get into it and they don't have an intrinsic.
Speaker A:They actually find people annoying.
Speaker A:And obviously dealing with the general public can be challenging at times.
Speaker B:Yeah, I love it, I love it.
Speaker B:I love the kind of, the psychology, the relationships, learning about what makes people tick.
Speaker A:So yeah, I think also running a hospitality business, I mean obviously you're creating experiences for people.
Speaker A:So I know personally I find that, you know, to be part of someone, like we get a lot of special occasions so when you're part of someone's life and they come in a pivotal moment.
Speaker A:Whether it's like coming on a mini moon or a honeymoon or proposing it's like, you know, or just family times.
Speaker A:If you've got families coming to stay with you, just giving them those.
Speaker A:And it sounds a bit cliched but those precious memories, but we're all so flat out busy that being able to have those experiences and being able to create the environment for people to do that I think is.
Speaker A:I find it feels very special to be able to do that for people.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:And from being, you know, a holiday maker, a traveler, you understand what works, what makes you, what makes for a positive experience and, you know, kind of creating that for people, for the environment, you know, the environment that you want them to enjoy is really actually satisfying.
Speaker A:Sounds like you've got big ideas and plans for Tridarif as well, which is exciting.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Watch this space everyone.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've got a bit of a vision.
Speaker A:Fantastic.
Speaker A:We can maybe talk about that.
Speaker A:Well, we don't want to give too much away because people are obviously can look in the show notes and connect with you on socials and have a look at your website and then they can sort of follow.
Speaker A:Follow your journey.
Speaker A:But you decided to buy an established holiday cottage business.
Speaker A:What made you decide?
Speaker A:Because I mean you could have bought somewhere and renovated somewhere.
Speaker A:What appealed to you about buying like an established business?
Speaker B:Well, I mean, it's funny really, because we didn't actually plan to do this.
Speaker B:It's a little bit of an accidental kind of outcome in a way.
Speaker B:I mean, I was having a bad day at work and I googled completely randomly places in Cornwall with holiday potential and we found a house further north and we kind of went on a bit of a two year journey with this house.
Speaker B:It had a couple of shepherd's huts.
Speaker B:It was a little bit of a.
Speaker B:Accidental income on the side.
Speaker B:I knew that I wanted a change in my work life and my work life balance.
Speaker B:So it kind of became a little bit of a kernel that grew organically and took on its own life.
Speaker B:The house that we first saw was in the kind of pipeline for us for a couple of years and then we ended up pulling out because it didn't meet what we needed.
Speaker B:And we decided just to stay open minded and see if there was somewhere else in the area.
Speaker B:We kind of came back to Cornwall quite a lot, fell in love with it.
Speaker B:We'd both been on holiday separately and together in the area and decided it was the area that we wanted to move to at some point.
Speaker B:And falling upon Tredarrot was a bit of an accident, actually.
Speaker B:We were talking to an estate agent, Savills, about another property and Penny at Saville said, go and see Tredarup.
Speaker B:And we looked at it and it was completely, not at all the brief that we thought we had.
Speaker B:It was completely over budget by quite a lot of money and it was, you know, four holiday cottages, established business.
Speaker B:And, you know, we thought, oh well, let's stay curious and open minded and go and have a look.
Speaker B:Not really believing it was going to work for us.
Speaker B:And as soon as we went through the granite gate posts at the bottom of the drive, we kind of thought, wow, this feels quite nice.
Speaker B:And then we drove into the driveway and saw the farmhouse and the cottages and literally we were smitten from the moment we saw it.
Speaker B:And meanwhile I kind of retrained to be a coach or was thinking of retraining to be a coach anyway.
Speaker B:So that kind of what's possible from that coaching world really stayed with me.
Speaker B:And we just decided, life's too short, sod it, let's go with it.
Speaker B:And we spoke to the owners, it felt right.
Speaker B:And we went.
Speaker B:We really.
Speaker B:It was one of those situations when we thought, let's just go with our gut, you know, what have we got to lose?
Speaker B:Why not life short?
Speaker B:Let's go with it and let's roll with it.
Speaker B:And we put an offer in literally pretty much straight away.
Speaker B:And we had no idea what the business really entailed.
Speaker B:We had no idea about how to manage seven acres, we had no idea how to look after these animals.
Speaker B:But we just thought, let's go on the adventure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So had you been just using normal estate agents to find?
Speaker A:Because I always think it's difficult to know where to.
Speaker A:I know when we were doing our search it just seemed to go on forever.
Speaker A:And we did like 10 trips and 23 houses.
Speaker A:We were going back and forth between Surrey and the Wye Valley and it was really hard to find properties that had the.
Speaker A:I don't think the estate agents understood what we, you know, our mad vision.
Speaker A:Where do you look to buy a holiday business that's, you know, already established?
Speaker B:Well, when we actually was kind of looking further afield after the kind of the first house that we'd found, we looked on rightmove, just rightmove.
Speaker B:And the properties that we did see, we saw about eight, I think in total were all sold as residential properties with the businesses on the side.
Speaker B:We did come across a couple of others via that route that were more of A commercial nature, but they weren't really what we wanted because we wanted a home for us and we wanted to be on site and we definitely did not want to build or renovate properties to create a business.
Speaker B:We were very much interested in an immediate income, source of income and a place where we could develop and create our own kind of brand and flavour over time.
Speaker B:And so this was on with Savills and it was also on rightmove, like any other property, if you were moving into just the home.
Speaker B:And I think it had been.
Speaker B:Well, we know it had been actually a farmhouse, a residential farmhouse before the conversions of the.
Speaker B:Of the cottages back in the day.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it was a standard estate agent search and I think from very, very limited experience, really.
Speaker B:But if you are looking to live on site with the rental property or properties that you're going to be buying, then rightmove probably will cover it.
Speaker A:And I think, like you say, some agents are sort of more geared towards, like, like Fine and Country and a few others that are more geared towards sometimes more lifestyle businesses that have got, you know, bigger plots and potentially other incomes and businesses associated with them.
Speaker A:No, that.
Speaker A:That's really interesting in terms of just your sort of search.
Speaker A:And I suppose the key thing as well is, like, by taking on a going concern, you.
Speaker A:You haven't got all the uncertainty about planning, because I know that can be really difficult for people now.
Speaker A:So if you buy somewhere and maybe it's got outbuildings or, you know, somewhere where you think, like, often if you've got land and you're thinking, I could put glamping on the land in certain counties, it can be very difficult now to get planning permission, even for converting buildings.
Speaker A:And obviously there's the time as well.
Speaker A:So I presume, like you say you've mentioned that was one of the key factors, that you wanted an immediate income and you're buying a going concern and you've got all that goodwill as well in terms of the past guests and the marketing assets that have already been created, that you're not having to start that from scratch.
Speaker A:And I think if you're new to it as well, that's a real plus, isn't it?
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:And the other thing, I think there were a couple of things that really helped us.
Speaker B:One of them was getting to know an estate agent who knew what we were looking for.
Speaker B:Even though this was not really the brief that we gave her, it was exactly in keeping with the kind of style and the nature and the character characteristics of the property.
Speaker B:And also we had to have a specific law firm to represent us because it was commercial and because it was agricultural.
Speaker B:So we were very selective about who we used, which was a local law firm in Cornwall who knew the area and who knew the ins and outs of not just buying a business but also buying an agricultural plot so they could quite quickly.
Speaker B:I mean, we didn't see this property till September and we basically completed and within four months.
Speaker B:So it was a quick, it was a quick conveyancing process for us because, you know, bearing in mind it was commercial as well as residential, that does.
Speaker A:Sound like it went through really quickly and obviously quite smoothly, which is, which is great.
Speaker A:But I think it's also a great tip about you've got to love the house.
Speaker A:Because I've seen quite a few clients and spoken to people who've maybe compromised on the property for the land or for the setup that they want for their guests.
Speaker A:But then, and I think we were a bit like this, you know, the house was not what I, I had my barn conversion in my head.
Speaker A:That's what we were going to buy and that's not what we ended up with at all.
Speaker A:A really old, quite dated cottage.
Speaker A:But I could see that it had some potential.
Speaker A:So obviously all of our efforts went into building the tree house and we probably only like, we've been here nine years now and it's like we're only just getting to doing the things on the house that we wanted to do.
Speaker A:But I think, you know, you do have to love where you live because working is, you know, and running a hospitality business, it's not, it's not a complete breeze and you're living and working on site.
Speaker A:So if you don't love where you live or at least see the potential that you can make it what you want.
Speaker A:I think I've seen situations where people then compromise and then it just doesn't work for their family or, you know, they just don't enjoy living there and almost feel a bit resentful because the guests get the great experience and you're slaving away and living somewhere that you don't enjoy.
Speaker A:You know, you don't like being in that space or it doesn't work for you as a family.
Speaker A:I did know one set of owners who created two amazing glamping type businesses and the cottage they were in was a two bed cottage and by the time they had two children they had to sell it because it just didn't work for their family.
Speaker A:So it didn't really give them the opportunity to stay and keep Running their business that they grafted so hard, you know, to create.
Speaker A:Which I think is, you know, it's obviously a very difficult decision when you get to that stage.
Speaker A:But it sounds like there's we're going to come on, talk your venture because it sounds like Tridarup definitely has scope and room for you to grow and do different things.
Speaker A:So what are you most excited about with your new venture?
Speaker B:I mean, there's so much that we're excited about, I think, fulfilling our vision, making Tridarup ours, putting our name on it and making it into a successful lifestyle for us, you know, so it works obviously financially as a business, but also so that it works for us as a really nice, balanced way of living and spending time.
Speaker B:I mean, there is such a beautiful kind of feeling and aura about the place.
Speaker B:When you come here, you kind of arrive.
Speaker B:The light's amazing, the sunsets are wonderful and there's a very special feeling here.
Speaker B:It's very peaceful.
Speaker B:It's hugely welcoming and relaxing.
Speaker B:And it's hard to describe, but you can't really help but slow down when you're here.
Speaker B:So sharing that with visitors and guests is really lovely.
Speaker B:And it kind of feels like a bit of a privilege to be here actually.
Speaker B:You know, every so often we kind of pinch ourselves and say, you know, how did we end up here?
Speaker B:Because it's just.
Speaker B:It's a very special place.
Speaker B:I'm really excited about creating.
Speaker B:I would love to bring the space, the farm and the kind of the nature together with my coaching and my passion for supporting people to get what they want from life.
Speaker B:So it kind of shouts retreats and I'd love to explore that space.
Speaker B:And I'm also doing a bit of gardening.
Speaker B:I've kind of started a bit of a gardening vegetable garden, which I'm surprisingly loving.
Speaker B:So I'm kind of curious to see how far we can get on the being a little bit self sufficient.
Speaker A:Oh, that sounds exciting.
Speaker A:And do you like cooking?
Speaker A:Could you see yourself providing produce to the guests, for example, or is it more just for your own enjoyment?
Speaker B:Well, it's a good question.
Speaker B:I mean, I love cooking, but I am not interested in providing food for guests mainly because I just feel like I cook for pleasure rather than make it a business.
Speaker B:And there's so much.
Speaker B:One of the things that we've learned and on our learning curve side of things is the compliance and regulations and the, you know, kind of steps you have to go through to be compliant to run a holiday business.
Speaker B:And the food, food hygiene and so forth.
Speaker B:Even Supplying welcome packs, which I'm not making.
Speaker B:You have to go through certain kind of steps and get all of your certificates and God knows what.
Speaker B:So no, I won't be supplying.
Speaker B:I might leave vegetables out for guests to take and cook themselves, but I'm pretty sure we'll stay as self catering units.
Speaker A:You could have like a little honesty box system because I was thinking we've got a really big vegetable patch and we have fallen off the wagon a bit in the last three years and haven't done so much with it.
Speaker A:But I'm trying to get back into it this year because I feel it's sort of like it's a waste.
Speaker A:And it's also to your point about enjoying where you are and just enjoying your setup before you, you know, you no longer have it.
Speaker A:So it's like, you know, ultimately I feel like it's a bit neglected.
Speaker A:But I was thinking because we've got the lookout bar and I was thinking in the vegetable patches just behind it that, you know, could I do like a little honesty box that people could then come and help themselves to some salad leaves or I put herbs out for the guests.
Speaker A:But I think it's quite nice to, because again, that's something that people love, is like live like a local, you know, it's a bit like when people go and visit people's places and they're like, oh, have you got chickens?
Speaker A:It's always that thing when.
Speaker A:And it was the one thing we decided we didn't want chickens enough of our neighbors have got chickens that if we want eggs we can just go and get them from there.
Speaker A:But everyone was like, oh, you've moved to the countryside, you're going to have chickens.
Speaker A:And I was like, no, but actually it is the thing that guests love, you know, like fresh eggs or just, you know, fresh produce and the dream of having your own, you know, vegetable garden and growing stuff.
Speaker A:Although it always proves to be slightly harder than you think it's going to be.
Speaker A:The slugs are always a bit of a battle.
Speaker A:Not quite as easy as.
Speaker A:We've definitely got a little list of things Aid and I were talking about it.
Speaker A:A list of things that actually we'll try again.
Speaker A:There's been a few disasters like carrots and potatoes, which I think we would never try again because they just were an absolute disaster.
Speaker A:But yeah, you have to find your way, don't you?
Speaker A:And obviously things grow differently, don't they, in different places?
Speaker A:So it'll be fun experimenting and trying out.
Speaker A:But if you did a little honesty box.
Speaker A:You wouldn't have to get into all the, probably all of the rules.
Speaker A:But for anyone listening who doesn't know about all the rules, there's.
Speaker A:I don't know if you've got this, Nicky, but the pink book from Visit England.
Speaker A:Visit.
Speaker A:It's actually Visit England, not Visit Britain.
Speaker A:If you're new to hospitality or you don't know what all the rules are that we've just been alluding to do get a copy of the pink book, which tells you about all of your legal responsibilities around things like that, which there's quite a lot I think people underestimate with hospitality, actually.
Speaker A:How many rules sort of do apply to us that we have to, we have to consider and it's changing all the time, isn't it?
Speaker A:So you mentioned a little bit about steep learning curves.
Speaker A:So what's been your sort of steepest learning curve or curves so far?
Speaker B:Loads, to be honest.
Speaker B:I mean, I think, look, the to do list is never ending.
Speaker B:We could literally, I think, work 16 hour days seven days a week and still have jobs to do.
Speaker B:You know, I think for anyone going into the, into this kind of business, seriously, you know, don't go in with anything other than your eyes wide open.
Speaker B:It's a lot of work.
Speaker B:Mark and I are both quite hard working, so we need to schedule time to go off site and take a little bit of time off, reminding ourselves.
Speaker B:I think that, you know, we, we chose to be here for a work life balance and although it's really early days and obviously we've had a lot to do to get over the line for the season for just having moved in, we still need to take time out, not just to get a little bit of downtime, but also to just reset and see things from a slightly different perspective.
Speaker B:Structuring our days, prioritising what's important and what's not, knowing when to get help, you know, when to outsource, deciding where our time is best spent.
Speaker B:And we've been really lucky.
Speaker B:We've landed in a really nice community here who are not just great neighbours but also really good resources, including our housekeeping and cleaning squad.
Speaker B:So that's been really helpful.
Speaker B:But I think choosing how and where to spend your own time has been really important technical stuff.
Speaker B:I mean, I've had to learn so many systems in terms of the booking process, you know, kind of linking up integrations from different systems where you market who you market to the booking system, the payment systems, etc, etc.
Speaker B:I mean, we were lucky, you know, we inherited a lot of this from our previous owners, so we didn't have to start from scratch and learn from a blank page, so that made it a lot easier.
Speaker B:But it is a big learning curve.
Speaker B:Working with Mark, my partner, you know, from going to being in a relationship to being in a business partnership as well, and managing, you know, how that goes.
Speaker B:And we do have a weekly OBS meeting, thanks to you, Sarah, which is really helpful, you know, regardless of how much work there is, how many hours you put in, it is the most fulfilling and rewarding thing I've ever done.
Speaker B:So, you know, the joy and the love of doing that, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker B:Having a sense of humour, I think, has been really important.
Speaker B:And being flexible.
Speaker B:Absolutely being flexible.
Speaker B:You know, have a plan, but keep adjusting it as you go along.
Speaker B:And I think the biggest learning for me, or the biggest lesson really, is just to stay true to myself.
Speaker B:And I think coaching for me has been really key here.
Speaker B:So, you know, being clear on how we want to do things, how I want to show up, what's important to me.
Speaker B:You know, those kind of tools have kept me really grounded and centered and sane, actually.
Speaker B:And I think trusting yourself, trusting your gut, what feels right, we'll make some mistakes.
Speaker B:We have made mistakes.
Speaker B:We'll probably get some negative feedback, but learning to roll with the punches and, you know, kind of just take the lessons that you can.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And also, you know, there's a lot of resources out there.
Speaker B:Joining the bootcamp and get fully booked for me was a really good example.
Speaker B:You know, there's so many, I think, pick the ones that resonate and use them well.
Speaker B:You know, on top of the skills and the tools and the intelligence.
Speaker B:But there's also like a community in that.
Speaker B:And that supportive network is really important because it's quite a kind of solo role in many regards.
Speaker B:You're sitting on your own doing admin.
Speaker B:It's quite admin tech heavy at times.
Speaker B:And, you know, that community that you get from those different resources and groups has just been so important to me, so.
Speaker B:And the list of learnings goes on.
Speaker B:I mean, we're on a really steep learning curve.
Speaker B:You know, we haven't even talked about the animals and the farm, but it goes on forever and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker A:Yeah, it sounds like you're really enjoying it.
Speaker A:I think just to touch on a couple of points, like they're saying you underestimate.
Speaker A:I think we all underestimate how much tech is involved that you days.
Speaker A:And, like, you're like me if you've come from a corporate background, there were teams of people in other departments that do a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:And then suddenly when I know when I went self employed, which is near 20 years ago, it's like suddenly like there wasn't a team to put the email campaigns together.
Speaker A:And you've got to learn how to do email marketing and we've got lots of different bits of tech that have to talk to each other and doesn't always work.
Speaker A:And you know, and I think your point about, you know, find groups or community or resources that can shortcut you.
Speaker A:You don't have to work it all out for yourself.
Speaker A:That's one of the reasons why I created the fully booked business club.
Speaker A:It's like a.
Speaker A:To have that support, but also so that, you know, why reinvent the wheel?
Speaker A:You know, if there's people that have been there, done it, have tried things, can share their learnings.
Speaker A:You don't have to approach it from a completely blank piece of paper and work it out for yourself or spend hours on YouTube trying to piece things together that don't necessarily resonate, you know, or relate to your type of business.
Speaker A:It's like go and talk to people who, you know, are running those types of businesses.
Speaker A:And you know, I know with some of my club members, some of them have got 10 years plus experience, so, you know, there's all that knowledge to, to draw on so that you don't have to, you know, work it all out for yourself.
Speaker A:And it can, and as you rightly said, it can be quite lonely and when you work with your partner as well.
Speaker A:Aid and I have never worked together before.
Speaker A:The hideout.
Speaker A:It comes with its challenges, putting it politely.
Speaker A:And I think particularly when you.
Speaker A:I loved your point about you and Mark having some time off site because I think we're really guilty sometimes as we're just so head down, you know, getting on with the business that we forget to be tourists at home and to go and enjoy the area that drew us here in the first place.
Speaker A:And it sounds like you've got that, you know, that parameter set already, which I think we've sort of, maybe because we started just as lockdown sort of hit as well with the business.
Speaker A:It was a bit of an odd, an odd time.
Speaker A:And then I think we got into the habit of just being stuck at home and not, not actually going out.
Speaker A:And I think that, you know, the last couple of years we've been trying a bit more to go out there.
Speaker A:I think it also means you can share more with your guests, can't you?
Speaker A:When you go out and explore with fresh eyes and go and see, you know, what's around you.
Speaker A:So I think there's some really good tips there.
Speaker A:And thank you for being so honest as well, because, you know, I think a lot of people, you know, they go into a business and then it's almost like.
Speaker A:It's like the swan, isn't it?
Speaker A:It's all like, it's all fine.
Speaker A:It's all fine.
Speaker A:And actually there are, you know, there are scary times and there are things like you say, you know, we all make mistakes.
Speaker A:These businesses don't come with an instruction manual of how to.
Speaker A:How to do it.
Speaker A:And we have to sort of find our own path.
Speaker A:And I suppose that's part of the joy as well, that we can put our own stamp on it and do it our way.
Speaker A:But it can make it challenging when you're sort of having to learn all of that from scratch.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was talking to a guy who was running Holiday Cottages, local to us locally here, and I said, you know, what's the toughest thing from your experience?
Speaker B:And he said, getting negative reviews.
Speaker B:You know, when in the early days he would kind of go and sit in the field and have a little cry.
Speaker A:Oh, bless.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like a stab in the heart.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He said, you know, that's my business.
Speaker B:And, you know, you need to kind of grow a little bit of a thing, thicker skin on that sort of stuff, because we want to please people, you know, you want people to love what you've created.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you put a lot of time and energy into it.
Speaker A:And then if someone hates it, it is like a personal sort of stab in the heart, isn't it, if you get those.
Speaker A:Those negative reviews.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's one of the things we have to grow a little bit of a thick skin.
Speaker A:So I'm going to ask you a really fun question just to wrap up our conversation today.
Speaker A:And I've been asking all the hosts this question.
Speaker A:I think people find it quite fun.
Speaker A:If you had a famous guest or celebrity come and stay, who would it be?
Speaker B:So I would really like to spend time with Ruth Jones.
Speaker A:That's a good one.
Speaker B:You know, sometimes you kind of get a question like this and I immediately go all serious and think, oh, you know, who's inspirational?
Speaker B:I just think she's incredibly talented and she's probably got some really good stories to tell, and I think I'd have a really good laugh with her.
Speaker B:So you.
Speaker B:If that would be my choice, I.
Speaker A:Think you'd have good giggles.
Speaker A:If she came to visit, there'd be lots of laughter, like you say, and lots of fun stories.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think she's great and I think it will be really fun and light hearted.
Speaker A:That sounds perfect.
Speaker A:So thank you for sharing that and thank you for coming and joining me today, Nikki.
Speaker A:And like I said, being so honest and sharing your sort of journey and obviously there's a lot more to watch over the coming months and years in terms of what you do with Tudara.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you for having me.
Speaker A:No, it's been a pleasure.
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