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00:00 Cold open

02:41 What the heck is 22 Minutes to Midnight cigar series?

03:29 A Pepper Cream Soda cigar?

07:13 Smoking 4 cigars at once—Caldwells are a great flavor combo!

08:29 Are Blind Man's Bluff cigars box worthy?

10:05 What should we do with Long Live the Queen Cameroon? Email Rob & Nate your cigar podcast idea to info@bovedainc.com

12:11 Do you like one-off or standalone cigars?

15:16 Can you tell a cheap cigar from an expensive cigar?

17:15 Is aged tobacco always better?

29:09 Are you a cigar hoarder?

29:55 What's a cigar "mooch-a-dor"?

- I can't take it anymore, Harry.

We got no food, we got no jobs.

- Our pet's heads are falling off.

That's kind of fitting.

Blind Man's Bluff.

Then, they gave the bird to a blind man.

- Petey, you sold my dead bird to a blind kid?

- Harry, I took care of it.

- Pretty bird.

Pretty bird.

- I love it when he is on the news.

- We'll be back in a minute with the heartbreaking story

of the blind Rhode Island boy

who was duped into buying a dead parakeet.

- I just thought he was real quiet.

- There's a story inside every smoke shop

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This is Box Press.

(uplifting music playing)

Welcome to another episode of Box Press.

I'm your host, Rob Gagner.

- And, I'm your other host, Nate Beck.

- And, today, we are continuing on

with our Big Brother, Little Brother series

where we are trying to figure out if in a cigar line,

if they have like a bottom end,

more economically friendly cigar,

and a high end more not economically friendly cigar,

but very similar,

to see if you can kind of bounce between the two,

or if you want something a little bit more celebratory,

you can do that,

or if you really like the celebratory stick,

but you can't afford to always smoke that,

you can go down to the budget friendly stick.

- Yep.

- So, we kind of had to...

I don't know, we pushed down the boundaries

a little bit this time,

because we're doing Caldwell,

but we're also doing Lost & Found.

There are extensions of each other, I would say,

but overall they're definitely not from the same, I guess,

company.

- Right.

- So...

- They're sort of like adjacent companies, right?

- Yeah.

We're pushing the boundaries a little bit.

The consistency is Robert Caldwell, right?

- Mm-hmm.

- With Lost & Found, you bring in Tony.

- Tony Bellato.

- Bellato who does a ton of stuff.

He has a really cool coffee company

that we were actually just looking up,

Youngstown Coffee Company.

- Yeah, based outta Youngstown, Ohio.

- And, amazing like single origin Ethiopian.

You can get like a full pound for 20 bucks.

- That's a good deal.

- Shout out to Tony.

We just got off the phone with him actually,

because we were trying to figure out

what the heck is going on

with this 22 Minutes to Midnight series,

because the Maduro,

which we have--

- Which you can see that here.

- Here is 11:38

and then the other one that's Robert Caldwell's blend

is 23:38.

And, apparently,

this whole series came about,

because when they were first starting Lost & Found,

Tony was getting some of these cigars from Robert,

and Robert was saying, here, smoke these,

let me know what you think.

Now, these are all cigars that were already pre-rolled.

They were just sitting there,

and they thought, well,

there's not enough for any one major brand to do anything.

But, these guys thought, hey,

maybe we could bring these to the world.

Well, Tony ended up smoking,

I think he said the Pepper Cream Soda.

And, he... I think you're right.

He texted or called Robert at 22 Minutes to Midnight saying,

we gotta do something with this.

It's too good to just like let it go undiscovered,

or unshared,

or any of that.

So, that was basically the foundation

of what started Lost & Found.

Now, come full circle.

- Delicious.

- These two cigars that are 22 Minutes to Midnight.

There's four in the entire line, there's Connecticut,

we got the Habano, then there's a Criollo.

- Criollo, yeah.

- Criollo.

- Corojo?

Corojo, maybe?

- Corojo, no Criollo sounds right.

- Let's...

Coro...

Oh.

Criollo.

- Criollo is the 22 Minutes to Noon.

- Yeah, and then the Maduro, that's what we have.

- Yep.

- Sorry, can't keep them all straight.

- So, there's two in each,

two in the 22 Minutes to Noon and two versions

in the 22 Minutes to Midnight.

- Right, but they're all labeled as 22 Minutes to Midnight.

Just the number changes

and the person who signed it--

- Oh, cool.

- Anthony Bellato,

Tony Bellato signed the 11:38 boxes.

Those are the blends that he did.

And, the 23:38s, that Connecticut

and Habano are the ones that Robert did.

I love Habano.

So, you were smoking this one, the gold band 23:38,

by Robert.

It's the Habano.

You said this is really good.

I was like, oh really? - It's fantastic.

Yeah.

- I said we should do a Big Brother Little Brother series,

because it's like a $19 stick roughly, you know?

So, then we came up with the Blind Man's Bluff,

the Habano and the Maduro.

And, in fact, it's working really, really well.

All of these are smoking really well together

and I don't think they intentionally did any of that at all.

- Yeah, so we've got Blind Man's Bluff here

and the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano here.

And--

- You know, there was no intention,

like we're the ones doing this, not them.

Like they don't know,

like, oh yeah, that's a...

- And, yeah, and according to Tony,

the tobaccos that are in the 22 Minutes to Midnight cigars

are 15- to 18-year-old tobaccos.

- On average.

- On average.

- So, that's the average.

- And, according to a couple of other sites

I was looking at,

some of the cigars,

the age actually can push closer to 25 years.

So, that's the average age of these tobaccos.

- And, I was asking him,

I'm like oftentimes when a company will tell

20-year-aged tobacco,

I'm like, yeah, whatever,

like how much?

But, what he's saying is that it's a majority.

That's why the average comes down to like 15 years,

because they're trying to use all the tobacco

that's basically been kind of overlooked.

I said, well, what's the premise of that?

And, he's like, well,

if you're a bigger cigar company,

you are not gonna make a box, a band,

and a brand for 20,000 sticks, 5,000 sticks.

But, these guys will,

because the whole premise is to just say, hey,

this is something that could be done,

and make a band out of it and release it.

So, I think one of the cool things about Lost & Found

is this opportunity to try some unique stuff,

but it's also probably some stuff

that you may not ever be able to get again.

- Yeah.

- Hence the whole Lost, Found,

and then they should almost finish it with like,

well, Gone again.

Like, just gone.

- That's the next brand, Gone Again.

- Gone again, because it's...

It's not coming back.

- Yeah.

I will say, Rob,

this is the first time where we've smoked multiple cigars,

where I really feel like all four of these cigars

are forming a really cool combination of flavors.

Like everything really is pairing very, very well.

Would you agree?

- Yeah.

And, I was hesitant to do all four of these,

because I wanted to do the Maduros up against each other

and the Habanos up against each other.

But, now I find myself cutting across,

like Habanos and Maduros,

and it's like,

it's still working really well,

which is really surprising to me,

because even on this 11:38 Maduro,

this is a Mexican San Andreas Maduro,

whereas the Blind Man's Puff...

Bluff. - Bluff, yep.

- Bluff.

That is a broad leaf Maduro.

- Gotcha, which is a pretty...

- A big difference.

- Huge dramatic difference in flavor, yeah.

- Yeah, big, big, big difference.

We're not even like really sticking with the same leaf here.

We're just...

- And, Rob, I just noticed on the side of the band here,

it's got Danlí Honduras?

- Yeah, that's what I was saying.

I think they're all made in...

But then they also have some Nicaragua stuff.

But, it just could be that they're all rolled in Honduras.

- Yeah, all four of these are really good.

I agree with you.

For sure, these Blind Man's Bluffs.

Either one of these is box worthy.

- Totally.

- Totally box worthy.

- I've always...

I've always had...

What are they going for a stick?

I'll have to look on a different website here real quick.

- I bet these are, what?

Eight, $9 a stick,

somewhere in that wheelhouse?

- Well, I got an invoice right here.

What did I pay for them?

Dammit, I have to do math.

- What do we got there, four?

- 34 bucks?

- So, 35 bucks, you got...

- Yeah.

- Eight bucks, 8.50.

- So, yeah.

I mean less than $10.

And, I've always--

- Basically, we'll say $9 a stick.

- I've always had an affinity towards the Blind Man.

The...

I don't think I've had anything in there,

although I don't know if I've had a ton of stuff,

because there is quite a bit,

more than I thought.

They have a Connecticut.

Didn't know that.

- There's a lot of options

- They have a Nicaraguan, didn't know that.

And, then the Maduro,

so I've only had the Maduro and the Habano.

- These are really great.

- I'd be tempted to try the other ones for sure,

based on my experience.

- I think we need to get a purchase order together, Rob.

- Oh, yeah, totally.

- Yeah, for science.

- For science.

- Yeah, it's...

Seems like the right thing to do.

- And, shout out to Zach who sent us a box of the Maduros.

We appreciate you.

Thank you very much, buddy.

- And, we got another cigar waiting in the wings

that we'll have to do something special with.

- Yeah, that was a tough one.

And, it's...

Should we just...

Should we name it?

- We should. We should.

- It's the, what is the name of it?

- Long Live The Queen.

- Long Live The Queen.

- It's absolutely spectacular.

- Unbelievable.

- Spectacular.

- But, the wrapper on that is Cameroon.

So, it's like there's no...

There's no Big Brother Little Brother.

and there's nothing inside Caldwell's repertoire

that's like anything Cameroon.

- It's just really special.

- So, I was like,

well, what are we gonna do with that?

- I'm a...

Like you are with Habano,

I'm a nut for Cameroon Wrapper I have found as of late.

- So, we're gonna obviously do something with that cigar,

but what should we do with it?

Go ahead and put some comments in the YouTube

or wherever you find this.

You can even send us emails at info@bovedainc.com.

What should we do with Long Live the Queen?

- And, if you follow us on Instagram,

drop us a a message on Instagram.

- You can always direct message us.

- It's Boveda_Rob and Boveda_Nate.

- Let us know what you think, because-

- Yeah, give us some ideas.

- I got an idea possibly of putting it up

against some other Cameroons.

- I was just thinking that.

- But, I'm not sure if that's gonna be like,

I'd like to hear what other people are interested in.

Is it putting up against other Cameroons?

Is it putting up against other things in that Caldwell line,

like Long Live The King?

Because he has a bunch there, too.

It's like...

And, there were so many like small things

that he's done with Long Live The King,

The King Is Dead.

There were a ton of different things on Small Batch

that I saw.

It was like holy cow.

Like all of this is just a ton of different blends.

In my opinion I have no idea where it all starts

and that's where Caldwell gets a little confusing for me.

It's like where with everything going on,

what is it, where is it from,

and how do I obtain it?

Because, it's hard.

- I like it.

And, it also can be confusing, the...

There's not a lot of ubiquity

in their different brand lines

or their different product lines.

But, I think it's super cool,

because it's so creative.

- Super creative. - But, it's...

It's hard to classify like families of these cigars,

because they're...

A lot of them seem to be,

I don't wanna use the term one-off,

but they're sort of standalone.

- That's a great question to everyone out there is like,

do you even like cigars that are,

let's just say,

let's take the Lost & Found for instance.

Do you like that or not?

I personally like it.

- I do, too.

- Because, I get to try something

probably that punches way above it's price point,

and no one else is going to do anything with that tobacco,

because it's so limited.

- Wait, you...

- But, then it negates the fact that I'm like,

oh, I really like.

- I know.

- Can I buy a box?

Probably not.

- And, you get to the end of a cigar,

like those Lost & Found antique selections,

which you and I were both fortunate enough

to smoke through a bunch of those,

and you get partway through the cigar,

and you think I better like consciously think about

enjoying all of this,

because I'm not getting this again.

So, you want to like...

You wanna make sure you remember what that tasted like.

- We got that in our...

My Cigar Pack.

That was super, super nice to try all those cigars.

And, what Tony said about those cigars

is as the Antique Line

is the year that the cigar was rolled

is what was on the band.

So, not the age of the cigar necessarily.

Like the tobaccos might be even way older.

So, like some of those had like 2003.

- Yeah.

- Like...

- 2012, 2014, early 2000s.

- That's a 20-year-old stick.

- Stick, but the tobacco is much older than that, yeah.

- I don't...

That's...

So, there's a give and take there.

It's like, oh, really cool,

a opportunity to try something,

and then it's also like, dang it,

I really like it.

Can I get more?

No. - No.

- So, that's why I say it has to finish with the Gone.

- Yes.

- Lost, Found,

Gone. - Gone.

- See ya, not coming back.

- Goodbye.

- But, it is...

When we were just talking to Tony,

the Lost & Found series

he's said was kind of,

it's pretty much done.

There's not like a ton of tobacco

or cigars sitting around anymore.

What they're gonna do now is roll cigars

with aged tobacco that's just sitting around,

and doesn't have a lot of play in major cigar brands.

And, then they're gonna make cigars

just like these 22 Minutes to Midnight.

So, this is pretty much the the new launch.

- Yeah, which is a cool idea.

- Yeah, amazing.

- Because, they're...

They're...

I got to imagine tobacco producers or brokers

have lots of tobacco that could make a few thousand boxes.

And, those are prime territory for smaller producers,

because they're able to do lots like that

and do a limited run of cigars,

which I think is really cool,

but a Fuente and a Davidoff,

they're not gonna do that,

unless they're just putting out a very limited cigar.

They just aren't gonna do that.

They're not gonna take a run with that.

- You and I smoked the $500 Davidoff Oro Blanco.

Extremely unique stick.

- Yes.

- You can already tell with,

not that this is anywhere close to that,

but you can start to tell refinement

out of tobacco, aged tobacco,

and I can tell right here

like between the Blind Man's Bluff and these,

there's a different set of refinement.

So, I am able to taste a difference in quality.

What I like about this one though in particular

is the quality and refinement is much more muted.

Like you can really jump between them

and not be like, whoa--

- Absolutely.

- When we did the video of like,

Can You Taste Quality in a Cigar?

- Yes.

- That Alfonso like hung out on its own on an island.

I was like these cigars out can't even touch it,

which I think is unique here,

where I'm that Blind Man's Puff is approaching this,

hands down, very easily.

- Yeah, like I've noticed in these four cigars,

of the four,

the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro,

really the only difference I'm getting

between the other three

is it's got just a little more kind of pepperiness

sharpness on the retro hale,

and then this would be next,

and then these two are just really soft and creamy

on the retro hale.

Like there's just none of that pepperiness,

none of that burn,

just really beautiful cigars.

But, all four of these have this like underlying creaminess

that just all plays well together.

It'd be like having four different versions of,

I don't know,

like a latte or coffee.

Maybe... - Right.

- Maybe, these are just coffee with more or less cream.

One might be a little stronger coffee,

one might be a little bit more mellow,

and these are like a beautiful, I don't know,

cappuccino or latte,

that's gonna have that just really soft creaminess

that everything just blends together.

- You're talking about

the 22 Minutes to Midnight? - The 22 Minutes to Midnight.

Yeah.

- Yeah, yeah--

- Tony made a great point in talking about age.

Age doesn't always mean better,

because in a lot of things that people consume

with significant age on them,

cigars, wine specifically,

spirits,

there is a point at which, at a certain age,

the flavors start to drop off and you get more muted,

kind of...

He used a great description like musty, smell of a basement,

kind of earthy, minerally,

chalky flavors that are just kind of muted,

and, but if you get it at the age

where everything has really come together,

then it's spectacular.

- Yeah, that Blind Man's Bluff Maduro is sharp on the retro.

- It's so hard to not say Blind Man's Puff.

- Yeah, man.

I'm struggling really hard over here.

Blind Man's Bluff. - Bluff.

Bluff.

The BMB.

- And, it must be because of the Blind Man's Puff website.

- Yes, of course.

Of course.

The...

- Now, we're smoking four cigars.

It's hard to keep them all lit and straight in my head.

Just went from the Habano Blind Man

to the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano.

Ugh, that's good.

It's funny how they don't compete with each other.

- No.

- Which we've experienced before,

where it's like, okay,

one is more harsh,

more astringent, maybe.

- These are like an all nice round flavor.

- Yeah.

I think of the two Blind Man's Bluffs,

I always gravitate towards the Habano,

but I think it's nostalgic for me.

- The Maduro

or the Habano is nostalgic? - The Habano.

- Yeah.

It was like one of the first cigars I picked up,

but I was like, oh my God this is really good.

- I remember the first time I had a Caldwell cigar

was from James down at Burn.

- Sure.

- Yeah, he was the one that introduced me

to Caldwell Cigars.

This would've been, boy,

probably close to 10 years ago now.

- Do you remember which one you smoked?

- Blind Man's Bluff was the first one.

- Which...

Which one?

- Boy, that I don't remember.

I do know I also had the Eastern Standard,

which I just smoked one of those yesterday.

Another great cigar.

The Eastern Standard was like,

I'll often say if a cigar is like perfumy,

I'll say it tastes like a good cologne or a good fragrance.

And, that Eastern Standard has a lot of that,

because fragrances will have woody notes,

they'll have earthy notes,

they'll have vegetal notes,

they kind of get all these different layers.

- The 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano,

that one is very creamy.

They don't even disclose any of the--

- No, I had to go into a couple of retailers

to see what their flavor descriptions were.

- Yeah?

- And, both of these were like a couple that I read,

this was like dark chocolate, cream, coffee.

This one's like cream, nougat,

even marshmallow.

- The Habano?

- The Habano, yeah.

- The Maduro's more chocolatey.

- Which makes sense.

- They're both really good though.

- And, especially because this...

Especially, because this is San Andreas,

I often think San Andreas has a lot of

chocolatey notes to it.

- For whatever reason,

I pegged San Andreas with being more strength

and I don't know why that is.

- It's funny,

because I would say I don't get strength from San Andreas,

but I do...

I do say that about Broadleaf,

which is the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro, correct?

- Sure, yeah.

- I generally think if it's Broadleaf,

it's gonna have a more punch,

a little more of that dark coffee, dark chocolate,

more robust,

dare I say, smokey flavors.

- I definitely was getting--

- Taste like tobacco...

- Yeah, I was definitely getting a smokey,

almost like fire cured out of Maduro.

- You don't say?

Wow.

Did you say fire cured?

- Kind of like a...

- And, I think that sometimes about Broadleaf.

- Yeah, because it's Pennsylvania.

- Yep.

Almost sometimes that like Latakia Pipe Tobacco

kind of notes,

which is a...

If you've never smelled Latakia,

it's a...

It's an immediately recognizable scent amongst tobaccos.

I particularly really, really like it.

It's why I like Laphroaig.

- There's certain people that like smoke that on its own.

And, I--

- Oh, I've met a couple.

- When I worked at the smoke shop,

I was like, you just want Latakia?

You don't want me to mix that with anything?

He is like, yeah,

no, just the Latakia.

And, then he would pack his...

- You feel like they all have to say it that way.

Yeah, I just really want that Latakia.

- Yeah, I just want...

Yes.

- Are you sure?

Yeah.

- Stop questioning me, you young stupid kid.

- The heck is wrong with you, man.

- And, then...

- Go.

- He would pack his bowl and light it up and I'm like okay.

Alrighty, then.

- You feel like they'll look at you and say...

- Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner.

- Holy cow.

The whole...

- You can just smell--

- A little Napoleon Dynamite

and he dumps the whole tray of food over for the...

Was Tina a llama, if I remember right?

- Tina, eat.

Eat the food.

Eat the food.

- Speaking of Broadleaf,

it's so interesting to me that both of those plants

are grown predominantly in the Connecticut River Valley

and one is super light, and delicate, and thin,

and the other is like a chunky bush,

and super robust,

and like thick, strong leaves.

- Yeah, Broadleaf leaves.

So, I'm totally enjoying all of these,

100%.

- I absolutely agree.

- It's really hard--

- All four are fantastic.

- Really hard for me to say like, I don't know,

sometimes I try to pick like a winner,

like one that I gravitate towards,

but I really can't.

- Honestly, of the Big Brother, Little Brothers

we've done so far,

I would say these four cigars

are ones that I would absolutely choose either option,

any of these options,

any time of day,

and I'd be very happy.

So, if you want a brand

and a sort of Big Brother,

Little Brother,

if we can make it that,

where you're really getting bang for buck

on the Little Brother,

this would be one of them.

- Huge.

- Huge.

- Huge bang for buck.

Now, I need to go try the other ones

in the Blind Man's Bluff category,

because I've clearly been sleeping on those

way too long.

- Let's get on the horn and order some boxes.

- Yeah.

Yes, please.

And, again, the Lost & Found series is a total blast.

I'm looking at their--

- We're gonna call our finance department today and go,

don't throw up if you see the credit card bill for today.

- Yeah, they got the Instant Classic,

the Pepper Cream Soda,

and Just the Tip.

- I have...

I've had Just the Tip.

- 15 Minutes, 15 Minutes of Fame?

- I am a child and I don't care.

- What is this--

- But, I have not had the...

Excuse me, I've not had the Pepper Cream Soda.

Oh, that's the new Nightstand.

Have you ever had those?

- No.

- I've had previous versions of the Night Stand,

but I've not had this one.

- So interesting.

I'm assuming now they're just basically recreating

the Pepper Cream Soda in all these,

like the Instant Classic,

all the good ones,

which was funny, like you had said,

Tony talked about smoking some cigars that were lost.

They found him and then they said, no go.

Like too far gone.

- Too far gone, yeah.

- Which I...

I totally understand.

But, I wonder if,

we think of it as a bell curve,

but I wonder if it's more of like a wave.

Would it come back?

Would it come back and be better?

- I suppose it's possible.

- I have no idea.

- But, my guess would be no,

but I suppose it's possible.

- He did say though,

like you know that funky basement, stale,

kind of grassy...

- Grandma's basement.

- Yeah, grandma's basement.

- That's what I'm...

I'm remembering that one.

- It's really hard to get away from that.

As soon as that creeps in...

- Absolutely.

And, I have such strong memories

of that like idea of grandma's basement,

because I grew up with a very large extended family

that all lived in the Minneapolis St. Paul area,

and in the 60s, 70s and 80s

they all had small homes,

but fairly good sized families.

So, when we'd all get together for a big Christmas party,

we'd have sometimes, I don't know,

close to a 100 people in a tiny house,

and all of us kids would end up in the basement,

because one of the great aunts always had like

one of those stationary bikes.

And, I remember distinctly one had the stationary bike

that the pedals would keep turning

once you got it going,

so you'd put all your weight on one pedal

and just bounce up and down like a crazy--

- Stand on it.

- Yes, like a crazy idiot.

Grandma's basement is a very distinct memory for me.

- See and then see if you can get two people on each pedal

going up and down.

- And, those memory--

- Two people riding the bike.

- Yeah, and those memories for me are great,

because I think nowadays

we think we have to have these huge houses

in order to like host a lot of people.

You absolutely do not.

In fact, the best parties that you ever go to

are in the tiniest places,

because everyone always ends up in the kitchen,

wherever the food is.

Nobody ends up in the great room.

And, nobody cares about the finished basement,

because it's cold and empty.

And, unless the whole party's there

and there's like a lot of entertainment,

you'd rather be where all the people are.

And, so those tiny little houses are really nice,

warming memories for me,

because that was the idea of home,

and all of them were unfinished basements for sure.

And, they all had those like woven braided rugs

that were like eponymous in Midwestern Scandinavian homes

that got passed down to the kids.

Yeah, they're...

It's just great memories

and tiny little couches.

In fact, my grandma used to always call one of her couches

the davenport.

I have no idea where that term came from,

but it wasn't a couch or a sofa.

The davenport.

Where the heck did that name come from?

- I don't know, but it's definitely old school.

- Do you wanna sit in the davenport?

No, this couch is not very comfortable.

- Did you have a grandmother

that put plastic on the couch at all?

- Thank, God, no.

- I did.

- I had neighbors that had that.

- I did.

I had a grandma that put plastic on the couch.

Boy, that thing looked good for a long time.

- Sure, it did.

And, the plastic was gnarly.

Like I had a neighbor that had plastic on the furniture

and they were smokers, cigarette smokers.

And, it was orange.

Oh, it was so gross.

Height of summer

and you're just glued to that freaking couch.

You're like, ugh.

- You know what?

To be honest though,

I just don't see the point.

What's the point of putting the plastic on there?

You gotta look at that every day.

It looks ugly.

- It's like how should I have a formal dining room.

- Yeah.

- What a useless thing to have in a house,

like we have this one room that nobody can go in,

because you have all the fine China and all the fancy stuff,

and you maybe have dinner there, what?

Christmas and Easter maybe?

- And, Thanksgiving.

- Nobody wants to touch...

Like, don't you dare lean back in a chair.

Ugh.

- No, thank you. - So dumb.

But, as they say, to each their own.

- Right, yeah.

Whatever.

- I would rather have a nice small, comfortable home

and be able to spend money on cigars like this,

than to have all my money tied up in a bunch of stuff.

That's just me.

- Yeah, and you're so...

What was funny too is when we were talking to Tony,

he is like, oh, yeah,

I'm kind of a cigar hoarder.

And, I was like, oh,

you are talking to the hoarder killer over here, Nate.

He will smoke them if you got him.

- Let me lose on your collection

and I will make a significant dent.

- Which I don't know if Tony was offering that up.

If there's anything you really like, I probably have it.

Well, alright.

You want it smoked?

Send it our way.

- Let's text him.

- Let's text him now.

Oh, by the way,

we want some originals of the Pepper Cream Soda and the...

- You bored with your stuff, Tony?

I can help.

- The cool thing about that is

I'm sure what he gets a kick out of

is sharing it with people who enjoy it.

If there's somebody who's like, oh,

I really liked this and I can't find it anymore.

And, then he's the guy that can be like, yeah,

I got that.

I think that's why there's Herf-a-Dor and...

Or mooch-a-dors and regular humidors.

Like I always have a mooch-a-dor

but I then...

- I have one here at the office.

- Yeah, I peg people for that, right?

- Yep.

- They're not when come super into cigars.

- Yeah, when I come back from the cigar shows,

they're always cigars that I enjoy,

but I'm probably not gonna smoke nearly as often.

Put some of those in the mooch-a-dor, take some home,

smoke them every now and then

just to make sure I try lots of different cigars,

but then you have stuff that isn't gonna break the bank

and stuff that other people are gonna really love

and be able to try.

And, you put it in that humidor.

- That's my favorite is when somebody is a cigar smoker,

and then I pull something out,

and they're like, whoa.

- And, then both Rob and I have a drawer here at work

where we put the nice stuff.

- Yes.

- And, every once in a while,

we break those out if we really wanna wow people,

and then it's there for our enjoyment.

What do you get in there, Nate?

Nothing.

- Or, yeah, just for yourself.

It's like, dude, long week.

Bust out the good humidor.

Yeah.

- What's Nate smoking on Tuesday?

Something good.

- Something good.

It's been a good one.

Been a long week on Tuesday?

Oh, shit.

Oh, man.

So, let us know what you think we should be doing

with the Long Lived The Queen.

And, if you've tried any of these cigars,

leave a comment which one you like below.

And, as always, protect your humidors

with Boveda. - Boveda.

- Cheers and have a great weekend.

- Have a great weekend, folks.