Beck and Dash explore why humor matters, what makes a comedian memorable, and how queerness and marginalization shape comedy. Dash argues that humor is inherently queer in the queer-theory sense: making fun of something means breaking it down, ruining it a little, and turning it into a ridiculous version of itself. Both hosts agree that comedians from marginalized backgrounds tend to be more creative because they've had to find new ways to survive and connect.
Email [email protected], comment on Facebook, or find Queernecks on Threads. Listeners are invited to share their favorite comedians and funny YouTube clips for a future "YouTube night" segment.
Sign-off: Happy West Virginia Day — leave out some Mountain Dew and pepperoni rolls for Mothman.
Send us mail at [email protected]
Follow us on Facebook or Instagram at @Queernecks
Subscribe to out newsletter for the Queernecks ramble expansion pack: https://substack.com/@queernecks
And join our discord by joining our Ko-Fi for $2 a month: https://ko-fi.com/queernecks
Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the yehaw in y'all means all.
2
:I'm your host, Beck,
3
:Dash: and I'm your host.
4
:Dash.
5
:Welcome to today's episode.
6
:Well, I'm glad that whatever
got Shanna didn't get you
7
:Beck: You and me both, brother.
8
:She was technicolor yawning
all evening, as they, they say
9
:Dash: I've never heard that.
10
:Oh.
11
:Beck: I felt so bad for her.
12
:And I try to stay very calm when
she doesn't feel good because she's
13
:emotional and sometimes she gets panicky.
14
:And so I try to stay real cool
and calm and collected, but
15
:inside I'm like, "Oh my God.
16
:Oh my God, I need to help."
17
:You know?
18
:I feel bad, but she's okay.
19
:She's doing all right today.
20
:Yeah
21
:Dash: food poisoning is, it's a very
frustrating feeling because it's not
22
:like a stomach virus or something where
you're like, "Okay, I know, know I c
23
:I wasn't in control of whether this
happened to me or not But food poisoning
24
:you're like angry at the thing you ate
25
:Beck: Yeah.
26
:And then we had Chinese food for
dinner, so we're not gonna be able
27
:to have Chinese food for a long time.
28
:Dash: Oh bless her
29
:Beck: Yeah, yeah.
30
:It's a byproduct of
the, uh, the situation.
31
:Listeners, in case you don't, my
wife had um, we think, th- there's
32
:no guarantee, but it's the only thing
we really had different yesterday.
33
:I had McDonald's for breakfast.
34
:I like a good McGriddle now and then.
35
:And she had Dunkin'.
36
:She had a croissant bacon sandwich, and
she was very ill yesterday, last night.
37
:And instead of like, you know, being
in control, you just feel like it
38
:just needs out of you right now,
like no matter which direction
39
:it goes, and it's just the worst.
40
:Dash: You know yeah we wish her her
well Have you ever done it to yourself
41
:Like you cooked something Like it's one
thing to get it from a restaurant and
42
:it's another thing to do it to yourself
43
:Beck: No, I don't…
44
:I'm very careful when it
comes to food and stuff.
45
:My sister, on the other hand, will, and
her family, will eat anything anytime.
46
:Like, when we were doing my mom's
wake right after she died I love
47
:the baked spaghetti from Giovanni's.
48
:It's one of my favorite things
in the whole world, right?
49
:And my nephew likes it as well, and
he had eaten some, and he had left it
50
:on the table in the back part of the
house, so nobody had cleaned it up.
51
:And the next morning, I got up and
found him eating that spaghetti,
52
:and I was like, "Jacob, no."
53
:And my sister was like, "What?
54
:With all the chemicals they
put in it, I'm sure it's fine."
55
:Spaghetti that had been sitting
out for, like, 18 hours,
56
:you know, not refrigerated.
57
:I just could never.
58
:Dash: on
59
:the one hand I I s I I kinda understand
what she was thinking even though it's
60
:not accurate cause there are certain
things that Like for instance the
61
:preservatives and stuff we put into food
to stop it from spoiling as quickly to
62
:make it a little bit more shelf stable
processes we do to food Like that can
63
:keep it edible for longer if you take
care of it right Like so a a piece of
64
:cake in the fridge will a storebought
cake is gonna live longer not if you just
65
:leave it out at room temperature Like
preservatives all that stuff don't cancel
66
:out bacteria and as soon as something
hits the air it's got bacteria on it
67
:Beck: Yeah.
68
:Dash: and if you leave it sit and it's
got access to sugar which is what bacteria
69
:eats which is what food is made of
70
:Beck: You know what's really bad
is that my sister is a manager
71
:of a med- med lab at a hospital.
72
:She knows germs and bacteria
better than anybody.
73
:And she's like, "Oh, it's fine."
74
:I'm like, I just could not.
75
:I, I was appalled.
76
:And they were all like, "No,
we do this all the time."
77
:I was like, maybe that has
caused the crazy in your family.
78
:I don't know.
79
:Yeah, apparently.
80
:Apparently.
81
:I saw that video the other day
and now it's just in my head.
82
:Do you know the little kid
that says, "Apparently," like
83
:100 times in the same video?
84
:I saw it the other day.
85
:It's
86
:Dash: though He's at an event of some kind
87
:Beck: It's a news video and, uh,
I forget what he's talking about.
88
:I just watched it the other day.
89
:What?
90
:He's at the fair.
91
:Dash: Yeah
92
:Yeah I thought
93
:Beck: Yehaw.
94
:Dash: like a a fair or a street
vendors type thing and yeah
95
:they were trying to get a an a
a soundbite out of him about the
96
:Beck: Yeah
97
:Dash: and he just So unselfconscious Yeah
98
:Beck: Yeah.
99
:So every time I've heard that word, which
you, uh, I d- I can't believe how many
100
:times I've heard it over the last week.
101
:It's more common than you would think.
102
:Come on, Rue
103
:Dash: Well it's I think it's that
BaaderMeinhof effect of once something
104
:becomes salient to your perspective
notice that it's a lot more common than it
105
:Beck: Yeah.
106
:Dash: had paid any attention to it
107
:Beck: Yeah, yeah
108
:Dash: For the longest time I couldn't
figure out whether our like phones and
109
:social media were listening to us or
not because I was like It could be Bader
110
:Meinhoff This was way back in the day
before they had admitted that they were
111
:data farming us So like when we started
to get ads and things on websites for at
112
:during Web 20 I was like this doing here
How did you know I was thinking about that
113
:Beck: Right?
114
:It is wild how they, it really,
shit comes up immediately after
115
:you start talking about it.
116
:Dash: cause I've been thinking about it
117
:Beck: Yehaw.
118
:Dash: Wait a minute
119
:Beck: Yehaw
120
:Dash: That's a bridge too far you know
121
:Beck: Yeah
122
:Dash: That's one reason I have like
my group chats are in Signal It's not
123
:because I think I'm some sort of elite
spy and the government wants to know
124
:what I wanna know It's be it's so that
I can fucking talk to people without
125
:my algorithm and AdSense and whatnot
listening to me cause like if if you say
126
:Oh man I'm craving some Taco Bell and
then on on your fucking TV you're watching
127
:YouTube and you know I I don't have
YouTube Premium I'm a cheapskate a Taco
128
:Beck: Same
129
:Dash: comes up I'm like No no no
no You're not doing that to me
130
:Beck: Have you ever
used the Taco Bell app?
131
:Dash: No I haven't frequented Taco
Bell much since uh like restaurants
132
:started to do apps I've used the
the McDonald's one several times
133
:Beck: The, uh, Taco Bell app,
when you place an order, it
134
:rings the Taco Bell bell.
135
:It goes dong.
136
:Dash: Nice
137
:Beck: Makes me laugh every time.
138
:But you get free stuff.
139
:You get like they call it their hot
tier item, and we always get either
140
:the potatoes or cinnamon twists
or chips and cheese or something.
141
:And you can get that free.
142
:So I mean, it's the same thing ordering it
through the box or through the, the thing.
143
:You just get free stuff if you
do it through the thing, so
144
:Dash: Yeah I mean I love a rewards
program We're gonna have to stop talking
145
:about food so poor Shana can relax Sorry
146
:Beck: do have some new stuff at Taco Bell.
147
:They, they have been
innovating their menu recently.
148
:They have the Cantina Chicken menu.
149
:Shana gets the Cantina
Chicken Quesadilla Roll Up.
150
:It looks pretty good
151
:And then they have the mini taco shell,
like taco salads, but they're tiny.
152
:You know how they have like d-
they put the salad in the shell?
153
:They have miniature ones of those now.
154
:They just brought the
Enchirito back yesterday
155
:Dash: I think there is a there's a
Taco Bell over in the city that I
156
:go to my boxing class in so maybe
I'll go by there Man I ate like a
157
:fucking trash panda yesterday cause
I had a bunch of errands to run
158
:I can't be trusted Like when I'm at home
obviously there's nothing near here so
159
:where am I gonna get garbage food I I
can only eat what I cook And that's been
160
:kind of That's been straight up exposure
therapy for me because I used to love to
161
:cook but my OCD had gotten so bad that I
couldn't do it anymore Talking about being
162
:scared of foodborne illness I couldn't
touch food I would If I had to touch a
163
:piece of especially poultry or or pork
one of the b ones that has the bad stuff
164
:in it it's like I would touch it and I'd
have to wash my hands and touch it again
165
:have to wash my hands and then I couldn't
cut it without having to like If I set
166
:the knife down I'd have to wash a new
knife And so it I had gotten so trapped
167
:by my neuroses that I had gone to a place
of a really restricted diet and not very
168
:happy Like food should make you in an
alleged developed society like ours food
169
:should be able to bring you happiness
and comfort at least some of the time and
170
:I wasn't having that experience I was I
was just trying to calorie max so that I
171
:didn't die And so I you know moving here
where there just were no options I had
172
:to start cooking And so yesterday or I
don't remember someday I made uh chicken
173
:curry I was cutting it and I didn't wash
my hands in between I was like I just
174
:washed everything afterwards like a normal
person I imagine a normal person is like
175
:This is weird sitting in the
hallway recording That's my stairs
176
:Beck: know.
177
:That's my bathroom behind me.
178
:I have a bathroom and
Shana has a bathroom.
179
:That's mine.
180
:Dash: That's nice
181
:Beck: Yeah
182
:Dash: I have the one bathroom and it's
upstairs but I also have just called a
183
:roughout which is in just one commode
in the basement And in these old houses
184
:they weren't even really intended to
be used It's for the water pressure
185
:Beck: Yeah.
186
:I read that some- somewhere recently.
187
:Uh, we wanted a, a corner unit that
had sliding glass doors on the first
188
:floor, and to get that we had to take
a two bedroom, two bathroom, which is
189
:one of the reasons it's so expensive.
190
:Plus it's an ADA apartment, so it's got
some bells and whistles in it, like the,
191
:the kitchen's bigger things like that
192
:Dash: To have the the handlebars
in the bathtubs and stuff
193
:Beck: Uh, no, it, they didn't go that far.
194
:The building next to us has a couple
of people in wheelchairs, and they
195
:have, uh, electric opening doors.
196
:So I think they have…
197
:This one I think is, uh, meant for
wheelchairs because everything's so wide.
198
:Like, you can get in and out
of everything really easily
199
:Dash: Oh I bet that's easy to move into
200
:Beck: I, I dragged a couch
through the glass doors.
201
:It was, you know, I m- next time
I move, I'm using movers c- again,
202
:'cause I'm not, I'm not, I'm too old
for that shit now And I don't have
203
:any friends that would, you know, I
could pay in beer and pizza anymore, so
204
:Dash: You know that's not the we're
not living that college kid experience
205
:Beck: Yeah.
206
:Dash: can
207
:Beck: my brother used to help me.
208
:he, he did a Forrest Gump impression.
209
:He said, "I'm wearing my moving
shoes," when he was helping me move,
210
:and that was a dumb joke that we…
211
:One of the good memories I have of
my brother, him in his moving shoes
212
:Dash: Yeah Yeah my whole family has
helped me move several times before back
213
:when I you know was younger and they
were closer and they were younger too
214
:Uh come up and just my dad they would
bring one truck or another and we would
215
:load all of my shit in it and take it
from one shitty apartment to the next one
216
:Beck: Yeah.
217
:Before my dad died, he would show up with
his trailer truck and a couple of his m-
218
:men friends that I had never met before,
and they would just move all of our shit.
219
:Like, they were just, you know, we would
have it all boxed up and ready to go, and
220
:they would put it on the trailer, and Mark
would follow us to where we were going.
221
:They would unload it,
and they would leave.
222
:It was wonderful.
223
:I … That was one thing my dad really did
help me with was, was moving and stuff.
224
:He was really great about that
225
:Dash: Well I think I mean that's the kind
of thing that it's not very difficult to
226
:b you know like that doesn't take a ton
of forethought It's literally you just
227
:show up and you do what you're told kind
228
:Beck: Yehaw
229
:Dash: And that kinda that appeals
to some folks Other folks hate
230
:that kinda thing Like I'll help
you do literally anything else
231
:Beck: Yeah.
232
:Dash: help
233
:Beck: That would be me.
234
:I hate moving with a passion.
235
:Dash: Like You
236
:that need done
237
:Beck: We decided we're gonna stay in this
apartment because they sent us the lease
238
:renewal, and it's only a $30 increase.
239
:And where Wenda and Baby have
passed, our rent for pets will
240
:go down $30, so we'll even out.
241
:So there's no raise in the rent, so we
might as well stay here for the year
242
:Dash: If you can make it work
and you don't have to add that
243
:stress of moving and you know the
place is c comfortable fuck it
244
:Beck: Yeah.
245
:Yeah, it's very small, but it's 950
square feet, the, the whole apartment
246
:Dash: I have heard much
worse I've lived in
247
:Beck: Yeah.
248
:Dash: I I
249
:Beck: Yeah, for sure
250
:Dash: 190 square foot
251
:Beck: Wow
252
:Dash: apartment Yeah It they're they're
called shotgun apartments I think is
253
:the style and you'll recognize this
layout So you walk in the door it has
254
:one door Sometimes there'll be another
door out the back but and it into what
255
:is on one side kitchen the other side
living room They're one room and they're
256
:sort of stuck together Behind them is
a bedroom th through a door and then
257
:inside the bedroom is the bathroom And
258
:Beck: Yehaw
259
:Dash: walk
260
:Beck: That's the exact layout of
a girl that I dated in college,
261
:what her apartment was like
262
:Dash: Yeah So I there was a lot of those
in Richmond and so I I lived in several
263
:of them And you know back then I paid
300 bucks in rent for several years there
264
:that was my budget so I would just go
with whatever I could find But Richmond
265
:was so Some college towns are very good
at being college towns in terms of having
266
:a wide variety of the stuff you need for
people to to be able to live comfortably
267
:and Richmond was one of them And I've
lived in a shitload of college towns
268
:Beck: Yehaw
269
:Dash: Cause I work at
you know work in higher
270
:Beck: Yehaw
271
:Dash: and I typically It c I think people
have their own preferences I I know people
272
:who have worked in higher ed for as long
as I have but never once lived in the same
273
:town as the college they work at because
they don't want that experience But that
274
:I I was never rich enough to do that
275
:Beck: Yeah, I loved living in BG.
276
:I really did.
277
:Uh, they dragged me out of
there kicking and screaming
278
:Dash: Aww
279
:Beck: LFBG, I, had a sweet deal.
280
:I was paying $750 a month for
a two-bedroom apartment with a
281
:garage and off-street parking and,
282
:you all the
283
:Dash: was was pretty sweet I
284
:of the not parties really but some of
the gettogethers we had over there with
285
:Andy would come over Cleatha would come
286
:Beck: Uhhuh
287
:Yeah
288
:Dash: And Andrew And just sitting
around everyone had s people would
289
:have their preferred substance and
some folks would have none By that
290
:Beck: Yehaw
291
:Dash: I wasn't I wasn't drinking anymore
so you know we would just sit around
292
:We watched a lot of YouTube We'd be
cooking something and just hanging out
293
:listening to music maybe I don't know
Don't have those experiences anymore
294
:Beck: Yeah, I miss that stuff.
295
:It's, 'cause I'm still in the same
place, but everybody's gone, you know?
296
:And it, there's just echoes of everybody
around, so that's, that's one good
297
:reason that I'm not in BG right now.
298
:I think it would be even
more lonely than it is.
299
:But then again, we don't know a
single one of our neighbors here
300
:Dash: Well that's how it felt going back
to Richmond when I went back to work
301
:at EKU after being gone for 12 years or
something of the the ghosts were there
302
:Like sort of like the impression of where
things had been was still there but the
303
:thing wasn't there anymore and it was it
was actually kind of lonelier than just
304
:being lonely somewhere although yesterday
I went to hang out with my friends up in
305
:who do live up in the the town where the
college we worked at was and that was fun
306
:hadn't done a some serious socializing
for like many many hours in quite a while
307
:Beck: I went to the drive-in again
this week and we saw Toy Story 5
308
:Dash: I didn't even know that was
out until I saw Amy Beshear post
309
:with Tyler Childers about it on
310
:Beck: Yeah.
311
:Well, we had seen one through
three, so we watched Toy Story 4
312
:this week, and then we watched 5.
313
:It was pretty good.
314
:It still holds up.
315
:I think, I don't know what else
they can do with that story.
316
:Like they've, you know,
they've, they, I think they have
317
:reached the end, but who knows?
318
:There could be Toy Story 17.
319
:They could keep coming up with ideas
320
:Dash: Thought they were gonna do that
with those Cars movie for a while
321
:I I saw the first one I don't think
I've s I haven't seen any of the other
322
:actual Toy Story ones but I watched that
Lightyear movie which it is still the
323
:same franchise but it's like a l more of a
tween movie I think And they had replaced
324
:Tim Allen with Chris Evans the voice
of Lightyear was cute I really liked It
325
:Beck: I haven't seen that one
326
:Dash: there his there's a a lesbian
couple he like has a a peer or maybe a
327
:commander I don't know and we experience
the passage of time through their
328
:relationship and like them raising
their daughter It's really sweet
329
:Beck: Yeah.
330
:The, the second movie that was playing
was that Nate Bargatze movie that's out.
331
:We watched a little bit of it,
but I had to pee so we left
332
:'cause it was really bad, so
333
:Dash: The first yeah the first I heard
about this man was over apparently
334
:he's being canceled or something
335
:Beck: Yeah, I knew who he was 'cause I
follow a lot of, uh, stand-up comics and
336
:things like that, so he wasn't new to me.
337
:Dash: Okay
338
:Beck: but yeah, he- because he showed
up at the, at the UFC fight, uh,
339
:people are saying that he politicized
his work, and so now they're trying
340
:to cancel him, which I disagree with.
341
:I, I, you know what I mean?
342
:Like, if he wants to go to
something like that, that's fine.
343
:I don't think we should
cancel him over that.
344
:I don't know.
345
:Maybe I'm wrong.
346
:Cause we don't know why he went, you know?
347
:He could've been, there's a lot of
different reasons he could've went
348
:Dash: I mean you know I like MMA I don't
like UFC because I don't like Dana White
349
:I uh that that whole organization I d I
don't like but I love martial arts I like
350
:mixed martial arts And uh I guess I could
understand if I was like a mega fan wa
351
:if I go to every single UFC like there
are some people who are completionists
352
:there are some people who are like I go
to every single UFC and this one just
353
:happens to be white nationalist shit show
354
:Beck: Right?
355
:Dash: I don't know It's sucks when
the thing you like becomes politicized
356
:and that I think that goes for a lot of
pop culture things and I think people
357
:from working class background like the
things that are most popular for us like
358
:NASCAR mixed martial arts monster trucks
ra dude what whatever it is whatever
359
:stuff that people who are bluecollar
backgrounds like it tends to get really
360
:politicized i in rightwing ways and
it's like it sucks because now I have
361
:to think about that I'm trying to enjoy
this thing I don't know I wasn't rich
362
:enough to become a soccer fan I'm sorry
363
:Beck: Yeah, I was never, I was
never introduced to soccer.
364
:I guess my sister played when she was
really little, but, but by the time
365
:mom got to me, that was out the window.
366
:And then I never got, uh,
exposed to basketball either.
367
:I don't think I've ever played
anything beyond HORSE ever.
368
:I've never played an
actual game of basketball.
369
:I wouldn't even know how to do it.
370
:But softball, I was all in on softball.
371
:Dash: of comedians we we did uh have
assignment from last week that is was
372
:pretty fun we I mean we talk a lot about
humor and comedy We both like standup
373
:and we also both like to be funny
374
:Beck: Yehaw
375
:Dash: And I think the past we have
talked about like why we think humor is
376
:important so I was thinking about that
while going over all the many options
377
:for um sets I could talk about But I
I was thinking humor's actually pretty
378
:queer Like in practice making fun of
something is queer like in the the queer
379
:theory sense of the word Like tr you're
trying to ruin it a little bit You're
380
:trying to to fuck it up a little bit
so that it becomes a ridiculous version
381
:of itself or or it makes it it makes
a a statement about something else Do
382
:you know what makes a certain joke or
comedian or set stick with you personally
383
:Beck: If you can make me laugh without
going into, like, dick jokes, that is
384
:a standout performance to me, right?
385
:Because I, I just think people that go
straight for the, the sexual humor and
386
:stuff like that, that's easy marks, right?
387
:Telling me a poop joke,
that's an easy mark.
388
:if you can make me laugh without going
for the low-hanging fruit, that's really
389
:what I find, uh, good about comedians.
390
:So finding something, some common ground
and exploiting it without going low,
391
:I guess, is what stands out to me.
392
:Like Mitch Hedberg, is
one of my favorite…
393
:I had him as, uh, 'cause I, I wa- I
watched several different things this week
394
:trying to figure out what I wanted to do,
and I watched a couple of Mitch Hedberg's.
395
:He was one of my…
396
:I had, I narrowed it down to three
options, and he was number three.
397
:So I watched some of his stuff
this week, and he was so funny.
398
:And I still, like, I still
quote him all the time.
399
:Like, every time I get a donut and they
try to give me a receipt, I'm like, you
400
:know, "I just can't imagine what I'm
gonna have to prove that I had a donut.
401
:They gave me a receipt, and
I filed under D for donut."
402
:Dash: Yeah he had this talent
for finding the absurd in things
403
:that we all take for granted
404
:Beck: he said, "Some people get cavities.
405
:I call them a place to keep keys."
406
:Dash: I remember Janeane Garofalo once
made a joke about somebody It was in
407
:a movie actually I think it was that
one with Uma Thurman they're like
408
:trying to sell her pore minimizing
creams or something like that and
409
:she was like No Do you have any
pore maximizing creams I would like
410
:somewhere to keep my spare change
411
:I sh and she's another example of somebody
who's just extremely dry But also there's
412
:kind of uh something that I don't really
love are the angry comedians Not not
413
:Beck: Yehaw
414
:Dash: not being angry
it's the screaming right
415
:Beck: Yeah.
416
:Dash: I can't
417
:Beck: Yeah.
418
:Dash: Although my the exception uh to
the angry comedian rule is Lewis Black
419
:who i he does use like screaming to
punctuate his joke I I like him and even
420
:though like occasionally he will scream
Do you have a favorite kind of joke
421
:Beck: Observational humor,
422
:Dash: Yehaw
423
:Beck: my favorite kind.
424
:The, the absurd and the ordinary.
425
:You know, the, the noticing the
neurodoses of people in general.
426
:You know, I like that kind of thing.
427
:Things that catch you off
guard are my favorite.
428
:I also am not a screaming
fan of that kind of stuff.
429
:Sam Kinison is probably my least.
430
:Him and Andrew Dice Clay are probably
my least favorite comedians ever.
431
:But I do like people like Brian
Regan, who kinda yells, right?
432
:But he is so clean that, that you can't,
you know, he does it in a really funny
433
:way, so I give him some, some slack there.
434
:Dash: On the topic of like sexual
humor and stuff like that I was
435
:thinking about it as you were talking
cause and I'm like I just don't want
436
:that from straight people Like I
437
:Beck: Right?
438
:Dash: I want it in a context that it
goes the extra mile of humor Cause
439
:the way that like queer people do like
innuendo and comedy it's just smarter
440
:They're more intelligent St straight
comics aren't very smart to me I know
441
:Beck: Yehaw
442
:Dash: reductive it's generalizing I
don't care I think that having to be more
443
:creative in life in general because you
live in a marginalized identity makes
444
:you more creative in any art you do
445
:Beck: Yeah
446
:Dash: there's lots of ways to be
marginalized Queer is not the only one
447
:so it doesn't mean straight people can't
have that experience But know the I
448
:think there's a reason a lot of comedians
have certain marginalized experiences
449
:Beck: Right.
450
:No, I agree with that completely.
451
:The people that I have found
to be funniest in my life are
452
:people that had kinda a tough
way to go sometimes, you know?
453
:Because you, I think it's because you
have to find ways to laugh at life or
454
:you're just gonna kill yourself, you know?
455
:Like, when, when…
456
:Like, I, I figured out when I was
very young that it was easy to make my
457
:mom laugh, and when she was crying, I
could change that by making her laugh.
458
:And so I became funny basically,
459
:Dash: that's more than one kind of trauma
Like that's a childhood trauma that in
460
:w that like made you responsible for the
461
:Beck: Mm
462
:Dash: of your parent Like that's a
463
:Beck: Yeah
464
:Dash: And humor I think it I think it
has two It it has it can have lots of
465
:jobs but two of its very important jobs
are like a utility to keep someone safe
466
:to manage a situation to f some sort
of social component right Like inter
467
:interpersonal type of utility And the
other is to mock power I think the
468
:most important thing humor can do is
mock dominant paradigms I notice you
469
:your brand of humor is you like
p puns and I I like wordplay
470
:and puns and stuff too One of my
471
:Beck: Yehaw
472
:Dash: of jokes is called a malapropism
it's named after a character named
473
:Mrs Malaprops who in turn was named
after Malaprop just means misusing
474
:a word in a very specific way So
it's when you a person uses a word
475
:that sounds similar to a word but
476
:Beck: Yeah.
477
:Dash: my and my mom used to make these
these were very popular jokes w where I
478
:grew up in in Jellico and Williamsburg So
my mom would say if she had a a medication
479
:to pick up she was going to pick up her
subscription I just thought that was
480
:hysterical because it's yeah you you
subscribed to life for that Yogi Berra
481
:was really big on these that's one A a
lot of his witticisms they're malapropisms
482
:Like when he he was talking about switch
hitting and he said Yeah you hit from both
483
:sides of the plate cause he's amphibious
484
:And I just I I fucking love It's
so it just seems so clever to
485
:me and it's also like just the
nerdiest kind of humor But then on
486
:Beck: Yehaw
487
:Dash: of the spectrum I can
love when a drag queen is making
488
:you know like innuendo about
or something Like I can enjoy
489
:Beck: Yeah
490
:Dash: I just need it to be
clever not gonna get me laugh
491
:by saying the word dick Like
492
:Beck: Right
493
:Dash: I can make I just made myself
laugh D but so that that's not
494
:quite accurate If I say it then
I can laugh at it I don't know
495
:So we both picked two specific
or a specific set So I haven't
496
:seen the one that you sent
497
:Beck: Okay.
498
:It's a three-minute kind of
compilation of a, of a larger set,
499
:and it hit all of the quotable parts
of it, so I thought it was perfect.
500
:Like, I quote that, that thing…
501
:I've been quoting it for years, so
502
:Dash: and I picked one This was actually
voted the most important or funniest
503
:joke of all time by a British poll
it is Emo Philips famous Golden Gate
504
:Bridge bit it's the section when it'll
often be clipped to like maybe a four
505
:or even fiveminute section We don't
need to listen to the whole thing
506
:especially because he is such a fucking
weirdo Have you seen this guy before
507
:Beck: No
508
:Dash: Oh he's weird His affect is gonna
So this is from 87 I don't know the name
509
:of this special Let me see if it says
in the description Uh the Hasty Pudding
510
:Theater HBO special from 1987 so the setup
to this joke is that he says We need to
511
:be kinder to each other We need to learn
to celebrate what we have in common and
512
:know recognize the humanity in each other
And he starts to tell a story about he
513
:walks he's walking along the Golden Gate
Bridge and he sees someone standing up on
514
:a ledge and they're you know like they're
gonna jump And he stops them and he's
515
:like What's going on You have so much
to live for The and there's a bizarre
516
:bit in here about how the guy wants to
kill himself because he has a horse face
517
:So he starts making all these about how
his face is like a horse and they're
518
:very funny but I cut them out because it
goes on kind of a long time but anyway
519
:he starts to say Don't you have anything
to believe in You know Isn't what isn't
520
:it great that you know God is out there
And so this becomes a bit it's one of
521
:the most famous bits about religion in
comedy and so he asks the guy about his
522
:religion so that's where I'm gonna pick up
523
:Speaker: They said, I
used to believe in God.
524
:I said, that's good.
525
:Were you a Christian or a Jew?
526
:He said a Christian.
527
:I said, me too.
528
:Protestant or Catholic?
529
:He said Protestant.
530
:I said, me too.
531
:What franchise?
532
:He says Baptist.
533
:I said, me too.
534
:Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?
535
:He says Northern Baptist.
536
:I said me too.
537
:Northern Conservative Baptist
or Northern Liberal Baptist.
538
:Just, he says Northern
Conservative Baptist Tyson.
539
:Me too.
540
:Northern Conservative,
fundamentalist Baptist, the Northern
541
:Conservative Reform Baptist.
542
:He says Northern Conservative,
fundamentalist Baptist, Tyson.
543
:Me too.
544
:Northern Conservative, fundamentalist
Baptist, great Legs region, Northern
545
:Conservative, fundamentalist
Baptist, Eastern region, and he says
546
:Northern Conservative, fundamentalist
Baptist, great Lake region.
547
:Me too.
548
:Northern Conservative, fundamentalist
Baptist grade, legs, region.
549
:Cons of 1879, Northern Conservative,
fundamentalist Baptist, great Leg Region.
550
:Cons of 1912.
551
:He says North Conservative fundamentalist
Baptist grade Legs, region.
552
:Cons of 1912.
553
:I said die heretic, and I pushed.
554
:Dash: I fucking love that
555
:so
556
:Beck: That was great
557
:Dash: in in my head like I'll I'll hear
Die heretic or I'll say it under my
558
:breath if I don't like something There's
559
:Beck: That's hilarious
560
:Dash: about that joke you know I
mean first it's the ridiculousness
561
:of whether someone agrees with our
fundamentals or our religion whether
562
:we care whether they live or die But
also like we were talking about there's
563
:45000 denominations of Christianity
How do they even talk to each other
564
:Beck: It, that reminds me
of a, a comic that I had.
565
:There were two, like they were at
war and there were two sides, one
566
:on the left, one on the right, and
there was empty space between them.
567
:And one had a, uh, a flag with a rabbit
on it, and the other had the, the same
568
:flag, but the rabbit was upside down.
569
:And, you know, they were, they were
saying that they were, you know, at war.
570
:And it basically is the same shit,
just a different way of phrasing it.
571
:That's hilarious
572
:Dash: And I honestly like that's the
one of his that I've seen the most is
573
:I don't He kind of annoys me actually
his whole like performance style his
574
:affect kind of gets on my nerves but
you know I get it right It's it's just
575
:a that's his thing It's a shtick It's
very 80s to me in that way But yeah
576
:Beck: Yeah.
577
:Dash: I fucking love
578
:Beck: Good comedy has no, has no time.
579
:Like, it's timeless, right?
580
:That would be funny in
:
581
:That, that's, that's good comedy.
582
:Yeah
583
:Dash: heretic And I pushed him over Well
listeners let us know if you've heard
584
:of Emo Phillips before if you heard
that bit before and of course let us
585
:know what your favorites are I have John
Pinette pulled up here This is Beck's
586
:choice bit called Raviolis and a Nap
587
:Beck: is, which is a mantra
of mine, as you will see.
588
:Speaker 2: Uh, I went to the gym today.
589
:Listen, first, first, listen,
590
:since February I've been going to
the gym five or six days a week.
591
:I don't like it.
592
:I go because I wanna be healthier.
593
:I have such a long road ahead of me.
594
:I, I lost a hundred pounds
and, and people say to me.
595
:Wow.
596
:We can really see it in your face.
597
:How big was my head before
I started this journey?
598
:Apparently I was the Kool-Aid man.
599
:Nobody ever said anything to me.
600
:Oh yeah.
601
:Kool-Aid here.
602
:That's John.
603
:His head's the size of a manhole cover.
604
:We don't talk about it though.
605
:So in February I hired a trainer.
606
:I've had many since then.
607
:Some quit some turn to drugs and alcohol.
608
:Then he says to me, give me a sit up.
609
:I said, oh, nay, nay.
610
:I, I don't do ups.
611
:I told him that when I signed up.
612
:I don't do ups, I do downs.
613
:Sit down, lay down.
614
:Blackjack.
615
:I'll double down,
616
:gimme a cheeseburger, I'll wolf it down.
617
:Put on little music.
618
:I'll boogie down, but I don't do ups.
619
:Ups, SIFY, gravity.
620
:Gravity is a law.
621
:I obey the law,
622
:so I, I see people at the gym and,
and I just don't think healthy.
623
:I'm on.
624
:I do this machine.
625
:Do you know this horrible machine?
626
:I don't know the name of it.
627
:I call it the horrible machine.
628
:I started in February.
629
:I could do five minutes, but
I would have to cry for two
630
:and a half of those minutes.
631
:People don't wanna see that at the gym.
632
:They complain.
633
:Take him off that machine.
634
:He's crying.
635
:Now I can do 45.
636
:Said it's a real miracle, but Oh, okay.
637
:Yeah.
638
:And I'm a pleasure to be around too.
639
:I see other people working
out on the machines.
640
:They're thinking, what
machine am I gonna do next?
641
:Maybe I'll do weights.
642
:And I'm thinking if I do 45
minutes and live, I'm gonna
643
:have raviolis and a nap, so.
644
:So the last 15 minutes is a chant,
ravioli's in a nap, ravioli's in a nap.
645
:I am like this on the machine.
646
:The trainer comes by and
says, I see you're sweating.
647
:That's great.
648
:You know you're burning fat.
649
:Oh good.
650
:I hope it's a control burn.
651
:'cause if this baby goes up
all at once, it's gonna be a
652
:mushroom cloud over this gym.
653
:Beck: So raviolis and a ma- nap
is one of my mantras for life
654
:Dash: I'm well and I was thinking
about like both of our uh decision
655
:process was about whether we have
a vocal stim resulting from the bit
656
:Uh so I definitely like if it's
something that becomes part of my
657
:lexicon or part of like you say mantra my
selftalk apparently that's important in
658
:Beck: Yeah, the…
659
:Dash: it it sticks with me
660
:Beck: I don't do ups, I do downs.
661
:That's another one that I have used.
662
:Dash: Ugh
663
:Beck: Gravity is a law.
664
:I obey the law.
665
:Dash: Gravity is a law
666
:Beck: There, the other one that I
considered doing, uh, was another
667
:John Pinette where he goes to a
waterpark with his family, and
668
:that one was pretty funny too.
669
:As somebody who's been to a
waterpark while fat, it was hilarious
670
:Dash: I remember there was kind of a
heyday of comedy specials back in the
671
:2000s Uh maybe this is a kind of the
when Comedy Central started It used to
672
:be the Comedy Channel and then it became
Comedy Central around that time And
673
:that was when comedy like standup comedy
anyway became so accessible to those
674
:of us that didn't have Sirius XM Radio
675
:Beck: Right
676
:Dash: didn't know how to buy a comedy
album Do you remember buying comedy albums
677
:Beck: I had a Bill Cosby
one, thank you very much.
678
:Like, yeah.
679
:I used to think Bill Cosby was a great
comic, and then he did what he did, so
680
:Dash: He was just also
a piece of shit rapist
681
:Beck: Yeah.
682
:But y- b- not to say but,
you know, excuse, excuse.
683
:I, I really did find him to be…
684
:Like, he had some really funny stuff
like when he was talking about, uh,
685
:having a fart in front of his kids.
686
:Like, that's one of the funniest pieces
of writing I have ever seen ever.
687
:It's hilarious 'cause he talks about
an elephant going under the chair.
688
:It's really funny.
689
:Dash: Did you see that elephant
that went under there Yeah it
690
:Beck: yeah
691
:Dash: up about three feet
692
:Beck: Pretty much.
693
:That's pretty much the bit, and
694
:Dash: Yehaw
695
:Beck: that had me rolling
when I was young, you
696
:know
697
:Dash: know what's funny is I'm
pretty sure that closes that
698
:special that's the end of Bill Cosby
699
:Beck: Yeah.
700
:Yeah
701
:Dash: I remember that special for
talking about grandparents in particular
702
:like what it was like to watch your
parent change their whole treatment of
703
:children when they become a grandparent
I remember he said uh That's not the
704
:person that raised me That's an old
705
:Beck: Yeah.
706
:Dash: trying to get into heaven
707
:And it was like that is exactly what
it feels like interacting across those
708
:generations but I mean yeah he for
comedy he was a very important person he
709
:Beck: Yeah
710
:Dash: a rapist and also
711
:Beck: Yeah
712
:Dash: He he contributed to
respectability politics for Black
713
:Beck: Yep.
714
:Yep
715
:Dash: He was very influential in that
Intentionally influential I remember when
716
:he was first like his first the first big
uh set of accusers he had been accused
717
:before and nobody listened whenever
this was that he was actually indicted
718
:maybe 15 years ago now it's been a while
I was talking to my grandparents and
719
:I remember they were like Well they're
trying to ruin his life I was like Why
720
:are you defending him Why are white
people Bill Cosby so much And I started
721
:thinking about how important he is to
hegemonic whiteness Like he's one their
722
:token he's a success story The Huxtable
the show he's a fucking doctor He's
723
:something that white people can point to
and say I'm not racist I like Bill Cosby
724
:Beck: Yeah, he's a model minority
725
:Dash: Yeah model minority that's
right And the way he spoke to and
726
:about other Black men in particular
727
:Beck: And their pants especially.
728
:The, the only time I've ever had
to throw a kid out of class, I've
729
:been teaching since 2013, right?
730
:And the only time I've ever had to
ki- kick a kid out of class was we
731
:were talking about rape, and a k-
he just went off and started talking
732
:about how Bill Cosby was framed.
733
:And, you know, that's a conversation
we could have had if he would've stayed
734
:reasonable, but he started screaming
about it, and he was a young Black
735
:man, which I found really interesting.
736
:and a football player at that.
737
:Like, he was a, you know, exuded a lot
of masculinity and that kind of thing.
738
:He, I had several problems
with that kid that semester
739
:but that was just one of them.
740
:Dash: I can't imagine what
it must be like to be a Black
741
:man in America in general but
742
:Beck: Yehaw
743
:Dash: any Time something like that happens
Like you know that that is impacting
744
:their real daily lives in ways that we
could just never fathom You know I mean
745
:Beck: Yehaw
746
:Dash: it's something every time
there's a a school shooter now or
747
:something everybody's like Well they're
probably a transgender or something
748
:Beck: Yehaw
749
:Dash: but I don't It's not like People
can't tell that I'm trans right A
750
:Black man has to walk around visible
as a Black man so cause I remember do
751
:you remember OJ I was in middle school
during you know the when the chase
752
:Beck: I was in high school, yeah
753
:Dash: the kids at school it was very
tense between the Black kids and the white
754
:kids during that whole trial You know
755
:Beck: We didn't have any Black
kids for that to be a problem.
756
:We had two girls that were of
mixed race, and that was it
757
:Dash: Oh Well there there was quite a few
Black kids and then there were the white
758
:kids who like hung around with the Black
kids and wanted to be like them So I tried
759
:to find the the Kathleen Madigan bit that
I also uh It's a vocal stem for me but
760
:I couldn't find it It's not really that
important It's one little thing she says
761
:about the nightly news she's talking about
how antiquated the concept of sitting
762
:down in front of the TV and someone
going Do you know what happened today
763
:Beck: Right
764
:Dash: I can hear her in my head
regular points during the day s
765
:going Do you know what happened today
766
:Beck: She reminds me a lot of
my college roommate, my freshman
767
:roommate 'cause she's also from St.
768
:Louis.
769
:She's very funny.
770
:She has a raspy voice kinda like that.
771
:So they, they're very similar.
772
:I also had a couple of her specials.
773
:Dash: Yeah
774
:Beck: Her later stuff, she's
getting a little more cynical,
775
:uh, which I don't enjoy as much.
776
:But she's really funny and especially
her first, her first couple of specials
777
:Dash: That's that's a really valid
observation because cynicism it's bad for
778
:us in general right Like a little bit of
it like we can't help it sometimes but you
779
:should never reward cynicism You should
never water your cynicism flower yourself
780
:It is not good for you It's bad for your
worldview It's bad for your ability to
781
:relate to people and to feel connected
And so whenever it shows up and doesn't
782
:leave somewhere I can't stay there You
know Like I I can't stay here with you
783
:while you make us all miserable I had to
uh get rid of a friend for that reason I
784
:was like This constant cynicism spewing
out of you at all times I can't live with
785
:it I literally cannot live my life with
you in it I'm sorry It's only happened
786
:I've I have cut two exactly two people
off as friends and he was one of them The
787
:Beck: Yeah
788
:Dash: gun on me
789
:Beck: I lost a couple of friends over
Trump being elected but that's really
790
:the only time I've cut many people off.
791
:People I never would've thought would've
voted for him, and they absolutely did.
792
:And then I got into it in,
with a girl that I had been
793
:friends with since I was 16.
794
:We, my first job, or no, my
second job I worked at a Fazoli's
795
:and we worked together there,
and we became really close.
796
:She was talking about how being deaf was
not a disability and et cetera, et cetera.
797
:And I was like, "What the
fuck are you talking about?"
798
:You know, and my best friend is
deaf, so I have a particular, you
799
:know, I, I am defensive about people
talking shit about deaf people.
800
:Dash: That's
801
:Beck: so we got into it over that.
802
:Yeah.
803
:Yeah, I think she was trying to say that
deaf people are just like regular, normal
804
:people, which of fucking course they are,
805
:you know
806
:Dash: but uh but that is so We are very
very bad at talking about disability
807
:in an affirming way in like a way
that centers the person and not the
808
:between them and any random person
as though we don't all have something
809
:that needs a little help right
810
:Beck: Right
811
:Dash: like I'm wearing glasses right
now That's a prosthetic but we like
812
:to talk about them like Oh you're
you're not deaf person you're just
813
:a a person you know It's like well
uh okay deaf people aren't people
814
:Beck: No, ha- let him make a phone call
and tell me that it's not an impairment.
815
:You know what I mean?
816
:Like, turn on the radio, tell
me it's not an impairment.
817
:'Cause my best friend, when I met
her, she was fully hearing, right?
818
:And it's a de- degenerative thing, and the
older she got, the worse her hearing got.
819
:And now she wears hearing aids
b- in both ears, and we can't
820
:really communicate by phone.
821
:So we do a lot of texting.
822
:Dash: Yeah I actually always had weird
hearing and then some things happened
823
:to make it worse I uh have had a lot of
traumatic brain injuries between being
824
:in car accidents or doing stupid shit or
being an addict and just falling a lot
825
:Like I've I've had a lot of concussions
But I also struck by lightning Not It it
826
:wasn't like literally I wasn't actually
struck by lightning but it was through
827
:the phone you know Um and I don't even
know if that really counts but I do
828
:know that it knocked me unconscious and
so A lot of things have happened to my
829
:my brain and so my hearing started to
get worse as I got older and now I wear
830
:hearing aids Um it's it's not even worth
it sometimes to try to talk to people
831
:about that impacts my experience because
I can communicate I speak normally and
832
:so it's like they just forget again and
then it becomes like I have to bring
833
:it up all the fucking time and advocate
for what I need all the fucking time and
834
:I'm just not gonna do that So I'm just
835
:Beck: Right
836
:Dash: A lot of the times
I'm just gonna smile and nod
837
:Beck: Yeah, that's what,
838
:that's
839
:what my friend does.
840
:Dash: Well um okay We've we've been
talking for a really long time Maybe it's
841
:time to hear from this week's sponsor
842
:Beck: Nice
843
:Dash: This week's episode of Queernecks
is brought to you by the humble but mighty
844
:kerosene heater May whatever god of the
trailer park there is bless that big old
845
:cylinder of sheet metal and wire mesh
sitting right in the middle of the single
846
:wide It's humming away like an angry
hornet and it'll keep the living room hot
847
:enough to sweat and the back bedroom cold
enough to hang beef For folks without the
848
:credit score for a propane contract winter
means hauling around that blue fivegallon
849
:jug and counting out pennies at a clearly
haunted gas station All season long the
850
:children run a rotation on the red siphon
pump catching their first buzz while they
851
:squeeze the bulb until they hear that
whoosh whoosh sound of the tank filling
852
:up Gather the family for a seance to
conjure the heat Click the lighter watch
853
:that giant cotton wick catch and then
fiddle with the knob until the flame stops
854
:smoking black soot and settles into a nice
radioactive blue There never was a less
855
:efficient heating source meaning everybody
in the house is forced to crowd around it
856
:within a fourfoot radius like some redneck
Stonehenge they just hadn't invented tip
857
:over switches yet when this particular
model was made so everyone does high
858
:knees through that corner of the living
room just to be safe The trailer can
859
:become a redneck Viking funeral in under
40 seconds if we're not careful And when
860
:a winter storm knocks out the grid for
three days this heater becomes a stove You
861
:just set a greasy cast iron skillet right
on top of the metal safety guard drop
862
:in some ground beef and fry up a batch
of living room burgers while you watch
863
:the ice build up on the satellite dish
outside it's dinner and a show provided
864
:you don't mind the taste of kerosene It
also doubles as a highspeed clothes dryer
865
:If you drape your damp tube socks over
the safety cage to dry they'll be bone
866
:dry in five minutes or completely melted
into a toxic polyester puddle It's a
867
:gamble every time So thanks to this week's
sponsor the kerosene heater redneck HVAC
868
:and barbecue services for those living
perennially on the edge And now come on
869
:back to Queernecks We just put a co pot
of coffee on the Coleman lamp And and we
870
:really did that one time Mom was fixing
some burgers and the power went out and
871
:so she went and turned the kerosene heater
on and stuck the cast iron skillet on top
872
:of it and finished cooking the burgers
873
:Beck: That's hilarious.
874
:My sister, I shared a bedroom with
her until I was, uh, technically
875
:until I was, like, 13, but I moved
out to live on the couch at some
876
:point because I couldn't handle it.
877
:She, we had a little bedroom
that had carpet on the walls,
878
:so it was, like, hot in there.
879
:It was the '80s.
880
:It was hot pink.
881
:It was a thing.
882
:And she would keep one of those square
kerosene heaters in there with the
883
:door shut and on full blast all night.
884
:Like, I couldn't breathe in there,
so I refused to sleep up there.
885
:It was crazy.
886
:So I slept downstairs.
887
:My sister's nuts
888
:Dash: That might be another
reason she's a little off
889
:Beck: Yehaw
890
:Dash: That's carbon monoxide man
That's that's what we had was one
891
:of the little square ones You can't
find those anymore The only kerosene
892
:Beck: Yehaw
893
:Dash: that I was able to find are the
giant ones that are just for outdoor
894
:but yeah I remember cause we would
uh in the winter we would get up and
895
:that thing on and sit in front of
it and shiver and get dressed there
896
:Beck: Yehaw
897
:Dash: I miss that kerosene
heater And I have cooked many a
898
:pot of soup over a Coleman lamp
899
:Beck: Yehaw
900
:Dash: The power goes out pretty often
in Eastern Kentucky because of the
901
:ice storms and things it and it's it's
like I think they've done the best
902
:they could to make it a strong grid but
it's just the way the weather is there
903
:Beck: Yeah.
904
:My parents had a generator on their house.
905
:As soon as the electric went
out, the generator kicked on.
906
:It was hardwired.
907
:It was a big one.
908
:It was propane.
909
:Dash: I'm
910
:Beck: Yehaw
911
:Dash: for a backup power station
currently actually Mostly for the
912
:camper but also because the power
goes out here Not for any good excuse
913
:though just a shitty power grid
914
:Beck: Yeah.
915
:We're pretty lucky here.
916
:The, my little town, people on the
other side of the town have been having
917
:some issues with the power going out
like every day, but we're 100% on.
918
:Like, we've had no issues with it, so
919
:Dash: Everything's a little bit shitty
here You know internet's kinda spotty send
920
:us an email Th there's So the hot water
heaters you have two different breakers is
921
:for the electricity and the other one is
just for the hot water heater and they'll
922
:turn They have a it control over it and
they can turn it off And so they'll send
923
:you an email and be like Hot water control
going on They don't tell They don't email
924
:you to tell you when it's over And so
it's like All right Hope you showered
925
:There's still a broke down
SUV across my driveway
926
:Beck: Oh yeah?
927
:Do you know whose it is?
928
:Dash: No and if this was Eastern Kentucky
it'd have been stripped down and sold
929
:for parts by now That's mine Like
930
:Beck: Right?
931
:Dash: me now I I am kinda gobsmacked
at how inconsiderate and rude that is
932
:Beck: Right?
933
:Especially for the Minnesota nice up there
934
:Dash: I think the Minnesota nice
is how they get away with being so
935
:inconsiderate and rude cause people won't
936
:Beck: Yehaw
937
:Dash: And there's no police to call
938
:Beck: Do you not have
a sheriff or anything?
939
:Dash: no we got a sheriff not in
this county I mean I don't know
940
:how it works You never see him
941
:Beck: Did, did you know that
communities have to pay the sheriff's
942
:department to have coverage?
943
:Like
944
:you want
945
:there to be a sheriff's deputy, like it…
946
:So where I come from there's a little
town called Rubyville, for example.
947
:It's way out in the
backside of the county.
948
:You have to go out a country
road, then another country road to
949
:get to that country road, right?
950
:Shit, what were we just talking about?
951
:My, I lost my train of thought
952
:Dash: Sheriffs
953
:Beck: Sheriffs.
954
:So if you wanna have a sheriff that sits
out there, so if somebody calls, "Hey,
955
:I need the sheriff," and there's one
close, your community has to give money
956
:to the sheriff's department in order for
there to be, like, coverage out there.
957
:You have to sponsor
the, the police officer.
958
:Otherwise, they could be
anywhere in the county when
959
:somebody from there calls them.
960
:I only learned that a couple of years ago
961
:Dash: Maybe that I don't know maybe
that's going on here because I I
962
:never see them I I got stopped by one
once up in Morris but not down here
963
:Beck: So who would you call if somebody
was trying to break into your house?
964
:Dash: No idea I mean I would dial 911
I don't know who would be answering
965
:it or how far away they would be
966
:Beck: Ow
967
:Dash: Yeah And that's why the
statistics look like they do It
968
:looks like there's more crime in in
cities or Black neighborhoods and
969
:it's because they're policed more
There's more cops in those got rid
970
:of the cops here There are no police
971
:Beck: So there's no crime
972
:Dash: Exactly Did you bring a
noun of Appalachian interest
973
:Beck: let's see here
974
:and now it is time for our
Appalachian noun of interest.
975
:Today's noun is the humble tobacco barn.
976
:Now listen, a tobacco barn is not
the prettiest barn in the world.
977
:Nobody's getting married in one,
unless the photographer is going for
978
:seasonal allergies, uh, meets tetanus.
979
:These barns are usually painted
black or otherwise dark.
980
:They're tall, a little crooked, and
standing out in the field looking
981
:like they know family secrets.
982
:But around here, that kind of building
stands for more than function.
983
:Tobacco barns were built
for curing tobacco.
984
:That means the tobacco was hung
up inside the barn so that it
985
:could slowly dry and change.
986
:It was not like tossing wet socks
over a chair and hoping for the best.
987
:There is a real process to it.
988
:Air has to move through the barn.
989
:The leaves have to dry at
night at the right speed.
990
:Too much damp and the tobacco could rot.
991
:Too much dry air and
it could cure too fast.
992
:So these barns were built with that job
in mind, and a lot of them had wooden
993
:boards with spaces between them or little
doors and vents that could open and close.
994
:They might look rough because
they were working farm buildings.
995
:They did not need to be cute.
996
:they needed to keep the crop from
turning into a moldy sadness curtain.
997
:In burley tobacco country, which
includes a lot of Appalachian Kentucky,
998
:Tennessee and Ohio and nearby places,
tobacco was usually air-cured.
999
:That means the barn itself
helped control the process.
:
00:52:57,287 --> 00:52:59,187
No fancy machine was doing all the work.
:
00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:02,337
The farmer had to watch the weather,
open the barn up, shut it back
:
00:53:02,337 --> 00:53:03,967
down, and hope the leaves behaved.
:
00:53:04,237 --> 00:53:08,747
And tobacco, much like certain relatives
at Thanksgiving, did not always behave.
:
00:53:09,297 --> 00:53:12,577
So for a lot of Appalachian families,
tobacco was not just a crop.
:
00:53:12,817 --> 00:53:14,527
It was the thing that paid the bills.
:
00:53:14,767 --> 00:53:18,057
Tobacco bought school clothes, it
helped cover Christmas, and it was
:
00:53:18,057 --> 00:53:19,747
the crop that kept the farm going.
:
00:53:19,997 --> 00:53:23,077
It was also a whole family job, which
is a polite way of saying nobody
:
00:53:23,077 --> 00:53:26,067
got to sit around being lazy on the
porch while everybody else worked.
:
00:53:26,347 --> 00:53:28,177
That barn was where all the work ended up.
:
00:53:28,547 --> 00:53:31,017
You can still see some of these
relics out in fields, though
:
00:53:31,017 --> 00:53:32,537
not as many as there used to be.
:
00:53:32,787 --> 00:53:35,287
Some are leaning, some have
roofs that look like they gave up
:
00:53:35,287 --> 00:53:36,657
during the Bush administration.
:
00:53:37,007 --> 00:53:39,537
Even still, others are wrapped
up like weeds in the woods,
:
00:53:39,747 --> 00:53:41,197
trying to consume them whole.
:
00:53:41,357 --> 00:53:44,597
And every so often, you pass one and
think, "Somebody ought to save that."
:
00:53:44,807 --> 00:53:48,197
But then you keep on driving, because
saving a barn costs barn money,
:
00:53:48,227 --> 00:53:50,007
to which I say, "In this economy?"
:
00:53:50,377 --> 00:53:52,917
The thing about tobacco barns
is that they carry a complicated
:
00:53:52,917 --> 00:53:54,747
story in those old boards.
:
00:53:54,977 --> 00:53:58,387
Tobacco helped a lot of Appalachian
families survive for generations,
:
00:53:58,627 --> 00:54:02,047
but tobacco also came with health
repercussions, lots of hard labor,
:
00:54:02,317 --> 00:54:05,627
and greedy companies that got rich
while small farmers took all the risk.
:
00:54:05,867 --> 00:54:08,297
So you cannot talk about tobacco
barns like they are just a
:
00:54:08,297 --> 00:54:09,527
cute old country building.
:
00:54:09,787 --> 00:54:11,787
They are part of the
Ap-Appalachian history that is
:
00:54:11,797 --> 00:54:13,987
useful and sad at the same time.
:
00:54:14,237 --> 00:54:16,807
But you know, Appalachia knows
what to do with complicated.
:
00:54:17,097 --> 00:54:19,827
We do not have to pretend something
was perfect for it to matter.
:
00:54:20,087 --> 00:54:24,087
A tobacco barn can remind us of hard work,
late summer air, and people coming home
:
00:54:24,327 --> 00:54:28,357
worn out, dirty, and ready to sit in that
one chair everybody knew not to touch.
:
00:54:28,814 --> 00:54:30,794
It was more than a building
standing in a field.
:
00:54:30,804 --> 00:54:34,094
It was a place where a family waited to
see if the year would turn out all right.
:
00:54:34,394 --> 00:54:38,414
So this week, we honor the tobacco barn,
the old wooden thing standing out there
:
00:54:38,414 --> 00:54:42,274
in the field, leaning a little, holding
on anyway, which to my ears is the
:
00:54:42,274 --> 00:54:44,224
perfect analogy for being Appalachian.
:
00:54:44,474 --> 00:54:47,534
That's our noun of Appalachian
interest this week, the tobacco barn
:
00:54:48,059 --> 00:54:51,569
Dash: that was a lot of people's first
job A lot of peop like kids would get
:
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:57,129
jobs bundling and hanging the tobacco
they would get sick from the exposure
:
00:54:57,129 --> 00:55:01,629
if they touched it you know like the
the juices or whatever come out after
:
00:55:01,629 --> 00:55:06,609
it's been harvested but that's probably
how they got addicted to nicotine
:
00:55:06,609 --> 00:55:08,589
It's probably why everybody smokes
:
00:55:09,340 --> 00:55:09,350
Beck: Yehaw
:
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,168
Dash: In Appalachia Like literally
everybody smokes It is expected
:
00:55:14,868 --> 00:55:17,388
Beck: My Papaw started smoking
when he was like 10 years old.
:
00:55:17,718 --> 00:55:19,828
Like, it was just a
thing that everybody did.
:
00:55:20,198 --> 00:55:22,108
Like, everybody in my family smoked
:
00:55:22,808 --> 00:55:22,958
Dash: Yeah
:
00:55:22,958 --> 00:55:29,735
it was it was a sign of maturity Like
it a lot of things a lot of these came
:
00:55:29,735 --> 00:55:37,846
together and working and smoking coffee
even alcohol they all kinda ran together
:
00:55:38,546 --> 00:55:42,684
And I still like there are certain
class affectations I can't get rid
:
00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:47,575
of Like quitting smoking was so hard
because it goes with coffee you know It
:
00:55:47,575 --> 00:55:50,295
goes with coffee and a donut whatever
:
00:55:50,995 --> 00:55:52,555
Beck: Mine was driving and smoking.
:
00:55:52,565 --> 00:55:55,405
That was what was really hard
for me, 'cause I was a chain
:
00:55:55,405 --> 00:55:57,825
smoker when I was driving, just
lighting one after the other.
:
00:55:59,456 --> 00:56:01,946
Dash: soothing And it's like
h that's how you think That's
:
00:56:01,946 --> 00:56:03,266
how you get time to yourself
:
00:56:03,455 --> 00:56:03,855
Beck: Yehaw
:
00:56:04,249 --> 00:56:06,579
the romantic affect of smoking.
:
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:07,119
Like,
:
00:56:07,226 --> 00:56:07,676
Dash: Yeah
:
00:56:09,082 --> 00:56:10,702
since I quit It's been a little more
:
00:56:12,164 --> 00:56:13,274
Beck: I'm so proud of you
:
00:56:13,459 --> 00:56:16,732
Dash: yeah maybe a week week
or two ago It's been six months
:
00:56:17,335 --> 00:56:18,105
Beck: That's awesome
:
00:56:18,648 --> 00:56:23,218
Dash: I guess we should, uh, spin
this wheel and see what our assignment
:
00:56:23,297 --> 00:56:28,024
for next week is All righty Okay,
we've already done that one.
:
00:56:28,184 --> 00:56:29,154
I'm gonna spin again.
:
00:56:29,884 --> 00:56:31,374
It landed on book report again.
:
00:56:32,354 --> 00:56:34,024
Is this, is this thing weighted?
:
00:56:35,661 --> 00:56:36,351
Oh, okay.
:
00:56:37,051 --> 00:56:41,621
So similar to, to what we did
today, this landed on YouTube night.
:
00:56:41,631 --> 00:56:42,711
So if there
:
00:56:42,818 --> 00:56:43,048
Beck: Okay
:
00:56:43,571 --> 00:56:47,701
Dash: a YouTube clip or thing
that, that is important to you,
:
00:56:48,151 --> 00:56:52,321
I assume mine will be something
funny, but there are also some…
:
00:56:52,651 --> 00:56:56,791
I mean, if there's a music video or
something you wanna watch we can think
:
00:56:56,791 --> 00:57:01,494
about whether we wanna do that piece
live, like livestream it or something.
:
00:57:01,994 --> 00:57:07,554
May not be time to set it up, but anyway,
just thinking about videos that we can
:
00:57:07,554 --> 00:57:12,524
watch on YouTube and share with each
other and share with our listeners.
:
00:57:12,774 --> 00:57:15,394
Why do you think YouTube
night is so important for…
:
00:57:15,424 --> 00:57:19,304
It's like, there's a, many people
online have joked about how every
:
00:57:19,304 --> 00:57:21,184
gay person has a YouTube night
:
00:57:22,261 --> 00:57:22,711
Beck: I don't know.
:
00:57:22,721 --> 00:57:24,681
This is my first experience with it, so
:
00:57:25,172 --> 00:57:28,222
Dash: Well, but you and Shanna, you
watched YouTube together in your,
:
00:57:28,567 --> 00:57:30,327
Beck: Oh yeah, all, all day every day
:
00:57:30,443 --> 00:57:34,473
Dash: like, this was something that,
uh, me and Sabrina and Eric and lots
:
00:57:34,473 --> 00:57:36,183
of other people were often invited.
:
00:57:36,513 --> 00:57:42,583
We would just get together over at
Eric's apartment and take turns with
:
00:57:42,583 --> 00:57:46,873
his controller looking up YouTube
videos that we remember liking.
:
00:57:46,873 --> 00:57:52,043
And so we would play music
videos for each other or funny
:
00:57:52,043 --> 00:57:54,703
clips of, you know, weird shit.
:
00:57:55,403 --> 00:57:59,553
Also, we would do a kind of algorithm
free fall where we would just let it
:
00:57:59,563 --> 00:58:04,543
suggest choose based on the thumbnail
whether something we should watch it, and
:
00:58:04,543 --> 00:58:06,583
found some really cool stuff that way.
:
00:58:07,382 --> 00:58:07,632
Beck: Yeah
:
00:58:08,332 --> 00:58:11,342
Dash: Maybe it's part of,
part of the larger, like, role
:
00:58:11,362 --> 00:58:16,322
YouTube has kinda played in, in
media culture, but okay, yeah.
:
00:58:16,682 --> 00:58:17,272
It sounds fun.
:
00:58:17,722 --> 00:58:23,366
Uh, listeners, if y'all have a, a
YouTube video suggestion, let us know.
:
00:58:23,666 --> 00:58:25,456
Comment on the Facebook.
:
00:58:26,206 --> 00:58:29,906
can at us on Threads and I'll
check it once in a blue moon.
:
00:58:30,756 --> 00:58:34,166
email us at [email protected]
:
00:58:34,596 --> 00:58:34,806
your
:
00:58:34,965 --> 00:58:35,305
Beck: Perfect.
:
00:58:36,005 --> 00:58:37,115
Yep, let's do it.
:
00:58:37,815 --> 00:58:38,765
Ba da dum bum bum bum
:
00:58:39,465 --> 00:58:42,765
Dash: Well, hope, hope Shana
continues to feel better
:
00:58:43,662 --> 00:58:44,082
Beck: Thank you.
:
00:58:44,082 --> 00:58:45,732
I'll, I'll pass along your well wishes
:
00:58:46,561 --> 00:58:46,801
Dash: Okay.
:
00:58:47,191 --> 00:58:49,681
And y'all just take it
easy the rest of the day
:
00:58:50,576 --> 00:58:52,556
Beck: Yeah, I'm gonna take some
garbage out, but other than
:
00:58:52,556 --> 00:58:53,966
that, that's, that's the plan
:
00:58:54,165 --> 00:58:54,625
Dash: Yeah.
:
00:58:54,855 --> 00:58:56,985
Got a little, little cleaning up to do as
:
00:58:57,392 --> 00:59:00,002
Beck: Yeah, we had like baby's
bed still in our bedroom.
:
00:59:00,002 --> 00:59:02,202
We just never could throw it
away, so I'm gonna take it out to
:
00:59:02,202 --> 00:59:04,352
the garbage and stuff like that.
:
00:59:04,432 --> 00:59:05,542
So it's not…
:
00:59:06,382 --> 00:59:09,032
Yeah, it's, it's been six months, so.
:
00:59:09,732 --> 00:59:10,122
Dash: All right.
:
00:59:10,142 --> 00:59:12,842
Well, listeners, thanks for hanging
out with us for another week.
:
00:59:13,582 --> 00:59:17,732
And send us your suggestions
for funny or weird YouTube shit.
:
00:59:18,432 --> 00:59:21,782
We'll see you back here,
and have a good week
:
00:59:22,581 --> 00:59:23,121
Beck: Yeah.
:
00:59:23,821 --> 00:59:28,091
Oh, today is West Virginia Day, so,
uh, or yesterday was West Virginia Day.
:
00:59:28,091 --> 00:59:31,391
So if, uh, make sure that, uh, you've
still left out some Mountain Dew
:
00:59:31,391 --> 00:59:33,391
and, and pepperoni rolls for Mothman.
:
00:59:33,821 --> 00:59:34,221
So
:
00:59:34,324 --> 00:59:34,734
Dash: right?
:
00:59:35,101 --> 00:59:35,431
Beck: yeah
:
00:59:36,074 --> 00:59:37,464
Dash: Happy West Virginia Day.
:
00:59:38,095 --> 00:59:38,405
Beck: Yep.
:
00:59:38,634 --> 00:59:38,794
Dash: be
:
00:59:38,935 --> 00:59:39,495
Beck: All right, homie
:
00:59:39,654 --> 00:59:41,324
Dash: s- say hi to your mom and them
:
00:59:42,063 --> 00:59:42,713
Beck: Bye