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Episode 524th November 2025 • RESILIENT A.F. with Blair and Alana • Blair Kaplan Venables
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The Kaplan sisters catch up on Shayne’s health, Alana’s experience with a cat psychic, a new way to communicate their mental health superpowers, and what they've both been up to. 

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About the Hosts: 

Blair Kaplan Venables is a British Columbia-based grief and resilience expert and coach, motivational speaker and the Founder of The Global Resilience Project. Her expertise has been featured on media platforms like Forbes, TEDx, CBC Radio, Entrepreneur, and Thrive Global. She is named the Top Grief and Resilience Expert of the Year 2024 by IAOTP. USA Today listed Blair as one of the top 10 conscious female leaders to watch and she empowers others to be resilient from stages around the world. 'MyStory,’ which is a television show available on Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+ and Google Play, showcases Blair's life story. She is the host of the Radical Resilience podcast and specializes in helping people strengthen their resilience muscle using scientifically proven methods and guides grieving high performers with her Navigating Grief Framework. The Global Resilience Project’s award-winning book series are international bestsellers, and her fourth book, RESILIENT A.F.: Stories of Resilience Vol 2, will be published in January 2025. In her free time, you can find Blair writing, in nature, travelling the world and helping people to strengthen their resilience muscles. 

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Alana Kaplan is a compassionate mental health professional based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She works in the mental health field, and is a co-host of the Resilient A.F.  podcast. Fueled by advocacy, Alana is known for standing up and speaking out for others. Passionate about de-stigmatizing and normalizing mental health, Alana brings her experience to The Global Resilience Project’s team, navigating the role one’s mental health plays in telling their story.

Engaging in self-care and growth keeps her going, and her love for reading, travel, and personal relationships helps foster that. When she’s not working, Alana can often be found on walks, working on a crossword puzzle, or playing with any animal she sees.

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I spent a lot of time offline. I spent a lot of time with my

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phone in airplane mode so I can use it as a camera. And

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I think because of that, I had a lot of ideas of, like, content

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to write about, which I love, because, you know, like, I want my main focus

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to be writing and speaking, like, my career moving forward. Like, that's what I

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really have this passion to do in any capacity of those things.

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And I had this idea and it came to me during dinner and then

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I, like, reflected on it and wrote about it on. On Substack and

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I'll share the link in the show notes, but it was this, this idea,

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this concept of what if in our email signature,

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maybe instead of or along with our, like, professional

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designations, we included our. Our mental health diagnoses.

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And so I changed my signature and I

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added four. Welcome back to another

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episode of Resilient AF with Blair and

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Alana. You like to play Mad Libs?

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Well, no, let me try that again. To talk.

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And sometimes I pause and Alana's

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unofficial, I don't know, ADHD fills in

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my sentences or cuts me off. So I just gave her an

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opportunity to mad Lib herself. Okay.

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But to be fair, you used to.

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And I know this is something you. We talked about that you worked on.

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You used to talk a mile a minute. And so

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I'm still getting used to the fact that your pauses are just

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pauses and not the end of a thought.

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But also, though. Yeah, there's that. But also, sometimes I don't even finish a sentence

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and you, like, fill in my words for me. You get excited. Yeah.

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Okay, so update time. Where

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do we even begin? Where should we begin?

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Why don't I begin? Because I have a lot to update. And you do have

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a lot. We can do a little bit of like a boop, boop, like a

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popcorn style. Yeah. So

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Shane is still

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showing stroke symptoms. It appears to be a stroke, not a

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TIA or minor stroke. We finally had an

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mri and now we are just waiting for the

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results to know what caused the stroke, where

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it is. He still has weakness on his left side and he's

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tired. And all of this

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has made me feeling griefy and really tired. And

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it's also like, because of that, I think it's triggered like an endo flare up.

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I've been just so exhausted and in so much pain,

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like, crazy pain. And I never bleed on my period. Like, I'm

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on an IUD and I've been spotting and,

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oh, my body is just in a bit of chaos right now, and I, you

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know, it has a lot to do with my mental health. And so

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I've just. This week, specifically, I was at a yoga retreat last week, which I'll

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update on in a bit. But, yeah, this week I've just been

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exhausted. Exhausted. But it's. It's okay because

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I work for myself and I know what I need to do. And I've canceled

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plans and I'm resting, and right now I'm, you know,

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popping Advils and I have a heating pad and we're waiting for results for

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Shane and we're just gonna continue on. So you're living

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in that limbo period, and it makes sense that you would not, like,

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with everything going on and then just like that unknown. It makes sense. Your

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body's like, what do I do? Yeah. And like, I'm about to

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leave, Right. For a month. So. But anyways,

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I really hope I. I ordered a travel heating pad and I really hope it

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shows up before I get on that airplane. What time is your. I don't

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know. Oh, my airplane. I leave here at 5. Like, leave my house at 5

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on Sunday and it says it's coming on Sunday. So who knows?

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5:00Am or 5:00pm p. M. Okay, well,

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we've. We. It's possible. Okay, well, everyone, everyone

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watch my social media to see if my magic heating pad showed up or

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if I don't. What's going on

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with you, sister? Well,

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this is like on the. On the theme of pelvis. I don't think

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I told you this. I'm almost graduated from pelvic

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floor physio. I had an appointment this

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week and I'm

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doing well, so the surgery helped.

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And. Yeah, I'm gonna go one more

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time in a couple months, but I'm almost a graduate of pelvic floor.

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Are you doing exercises at home? A little bit. But I think

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it's because I do a lot of Pilates too, that I'm, like, focusing a lot

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on that area and core strengthening that.

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It's helping. But that's exciting.

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That's like a little. That was like a little nugget that I didn't tell

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Blair I was going to talk about. But then her talking about her pelvis

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made me want to. That's okay. You don't. I don't

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know. Okay, what else? Well,

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Kooky Alana had another call with a pet

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psychic. So months ago, when I first got

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Lenny, I had a pet psychic. But originally I

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had booked this particular one. Her name

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is Lauren Bode of animal talk ca.

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The sweetest woman. And it was a 10 month wait because I

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think the way I discovered her was TikTok like everyone else and everyone just

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booked. So I'm going to share a little bit of

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highlights and some interesting facts.

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So Molly's really connected to her emotions.

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That's what she told the lady. And like she loves me

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but like we knew that she threw

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Lenny under the bus first she goes, I have a

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boyfriend. But I don't know if she said new boyfriend or

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boyfriend because then the

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Lauren was like, do you have.

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Did you get her a friend? And I'm like, I did. And she

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was like, is it a boy? I'm like yes. And she's like okay.

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So she was asking me if you. She was telling

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me that she got a new boyfriend and I wasn't sure if she meant you

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got a new boyfriend. I would have been like, that's news to me.

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Anyways, Lenny is her boyfriend. She's.

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He's really. He's nice and quiet but sometimes he bullies her. And an hour

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before the call he bullied her. She

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said he needs to be groomed better and

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also said that he needs

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to cover his pee and that the

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night before I found like a pee on a shirt I like keep in the

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bathroom in case I decide to plop my hair.

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And I guess it was Lenny. Unless Molly was lying.

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But she did tell the lady that she had a tummy

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ache and that is because she

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has this thing called bd. She has ibd.

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Anyways, fast forward a week.

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She's in a flare. So I took her to the vet and

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she's maybe on the mend. She was, but now her appetite's being

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weird again. But she's chilling on the porch because it's probably

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one of the last porch days. So yeah, I did another.

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Another pet psychic highly recommend. Oh, so you've now done

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two. Which one was better? I feel like they

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were very different. This one I.

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I think because I have the recording of this one. The, the

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other one there was a malfunction. So I've listened to it a couple times and

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just like this woman's demeanor is just really, really sweet.

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I've sent it to Blair. She probably hasn't listened. No,

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but it's just like really, really sweet. So

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I would book with her. I would book with both again. But I would definitely

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book with her again. Especially cuz she's Canadian so keeps it

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local. The other woman was fantastic though too,

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but it just makes me like wish I could.

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Well maybe you can. Maybe I can. Maybe, like, it's like a

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sense in the body. Well, I think there's probably ways to train and to tune

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in. Totally. And maybe I have that capacity. I

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probably do. What I love about cats is that they're,

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like natural healers and that their per. Frequency, like,

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heals like it's a healing frequency. Yeah.

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Walking around with Teddy on my uterus. Oh, my gosh. Was.

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It was this morning. I. Cats are the best. I

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woke up, Molly was, like, beside me, purring, and then Lenny was, like,

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on top of me, purring. I was like, well, I. I guess I needed

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it. Yeah, I love that. So how's

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Molly doing today? How's her health? Well,

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she was being weird again with food, but I'm

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gonna. I have a couple tricks up my sleeve that I'm gonna try after this

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call and see if they work. Otherwise, she goes back

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on Tuesday. Anyway, you keep the lights on at the vet,

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like, you. Your visits alone pay the vet

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salary. Oh, my gosh. I'm there so often.

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And then I actually am in a fight with True

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Panion, the pet insurance. Why aren't you sponsoring

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this podcast? Why aren't you sponsoring this podcast? And also, why aren't you

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sponsoring Molly? Wait, what do you mean you're in a fight with them? Tell us.

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Tell us more. Well, so I wrote that she had IBD

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as the thing, and I guess I never wrote that before. So they treated it

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like it was a new condition. And I was on the phone with

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them and chatting with them, and I was like, no. Like, I've submitted

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for this 25 plus times. I've counted under various things

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like pancreatitis, vomiting, whatever. And

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so now to submit an appeal. So the vet's gonna have to reach

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out because it's like, I've already paid thousands of dollars for this issue.

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I'm not paying another two $50 deductible. Oh, I

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see. So it's a deductible dispute. It's a deductible dispute,

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yes. So hopefully we win

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or. Yeah. So true Panion, if you're listening,

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or if someone who works at Trupanion, Molly

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Kaplan, has long standing tummy issues.

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Should I just write tummy issues next time? I think.

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You all keep us updated on the True Panion fight. I sure

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will. So I was at a yoga retreat,

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and it was amazing. Like, I. I

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do a lot for myself, but not, like, fully for myself. It's always

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like, tagged on to business stuff or family stuff. And

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many months ago, I decided I wanted to go to this Yoga retreat. And it

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was just like one of the first times in a long time that I was

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going somewhere, not speaking, not facilitating for,

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not, not for business, but just for me. And I went with a couple

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girlfriends and I met some other really great friends. And what was really

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cool about being there is like, I wanted to be offline 100%. I wasn't, like,

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I was just behind at some work stuff because of what happened with Shane and

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obviously wanted to stay in touch with Shane. And

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so I wasn't fully offline, but I. I spent a lot of time offline. I

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spent a lot of time with my phone in airplane mode, so I can use

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it as a camera. And I think because

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of that, I had a lot of ideas of, like, content to

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write about, which I love because, you know, like, I want my main focus to

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be writing and speaking, like, my career moving forward. Like, that's what I

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really have this passion to do in any capacity of those things.

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And I had this idea and it came to me during dinner and then

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I, like, reflected on it and wrote about it on substack. And

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I'll share the link in the show notes. But it was this, this

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idea, this concept of what if in our email

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signature, maybe instead of. Or along with our, like,

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professional designations, we included our, our mental health

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diagnosis as diagnoses.

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Diagnoses, Diagnoses. And

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so I changed my signature and I added four. Oh,

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legit look. I legit changed my signature. My email

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signature, it says, well, it's whatever's in the

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substack post. It's Blair Kaplan Venables Founder, Global

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Resilience Project adhd, pmdd,

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depression and anxiety. That's really funny.

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No one's really noticed, but I've changed. Yeah. So I've changed my email signature

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and I shared this article on substack, but also on

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my social media, my Instagram, my Facebook,

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my LinkedIn. And I've gotten so much feedback about, like, you know, how this

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could really just normalize mental health even

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further. So, yeah, I don't know, I just thought it was really interesting. Like,

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and then it's like, well, how far do you want to take it? Do I

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also put, like, endo and like,

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I don't know. I mean, I. I don't know. I think it's kind of

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an interesting concept of like, not hiding

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what we're going through and like, what if we, you know, open up

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and we, we use these insignatures, like pronouns in

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a way or like, on zoom. So, like, maybe today, like, my ADHD is really

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bad. Maybe I put Blair Kaplan Venables, adhd. And so, like, when you see me

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fidgeting, it's like, oh, yeah, okay, she has adhd. Instead

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of you being like, blair's not paying attention, it's like, actually, no, it's just my

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adhd. And, like, will, would the world be kinder to one

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another?

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Maybe. I. I mean, I think I have two

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minds of this. Like, I think it's wonderful. And I think of also,

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like, the kids that I've worked with in the past or some who are

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very seeking. Wait, hold on. Are these kids that have email signatures?

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I don't know. They will because I'm just talking about, like, adults, like, in the

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adult world, but keep going. Yes. I

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just think of, like, teens who are so seeking of, like,

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identity and trying to identify with something they may or may

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not have so I could see them. If they were to use it, it would

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be, like, 20 words long. Well, maybe there's a limit of, like,

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what's acceptable. Like, your top five. You're making

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the rules as we go. Yeah. Like, maybe you have to be. Maybe your brain

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has to be fully developed first. Yeah. So. Because

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that's when, like, diagnoses, I think. Well, no, that's not true. There's diagnoses you can

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get, but I think it's great. It's like getting a new award.

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It's like, I just got a new diagnosis. Going to add it to my signature.

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Mine would be Alana Kaplan,

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mswrsw Anxiety comma, query.

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ADHD from sister. Query.

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Query. Like Q, U, E, R, Y. Well, what's

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cury? Ad. Oh, like, I query if I have adhd.

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Oh, I'm the same about, like, like, or, like,

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when people are getting, like. Degree, like their Ph.D. or M or

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whatever, and it's like, it says candidates. Maybe it's ADHD candidates.

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Yeah. Alana, you need to update your

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personal signature on Gmail. I expect the full

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update. ADHD candidate.

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That's so good. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It's

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interesting because, like, I have changed it, and I don't. Like, this tells me, like,

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are people seeing it? Like, I put the screenshot of the signature in my

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substack, but then I just changed it. And I'm waiting to see if, like, anyone's

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gonna say anything or notice it. It's only been, what's today's

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Friday? Like, it's only been a week, five days. But

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I'm keeping it. Like, it's. It's there and

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I Don't know, it's opened up some dialogue about like standing in

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your power and like, why not be proud of it? Like it's my superpower. Like

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I'm not proud of my endo. But that's not really a mental health diagnosis. That,

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that's like more of a physical. But it does impact mental health.

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Yeah, it does. But that, that's like my pmdd,

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my depression, my anxiety. So like for me it's like,

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well, this is all who I am and it's all. All of. These are all

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of me. So anyways, if you're out there,

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I invite you to change your email signature and add in some.

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Some. Even if you're a candidate. Yeah, even if you're a

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candidate. Let us know how that goes.

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You know, something that I put on here that we should talk about, we both

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can talk about it is like, because this, this episode is being recorded now, but

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when it's out, I'm already in Australia. And it's November, which is

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the start of grief season. We need a

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theme song like you have for. Okay, hold on. Side quest. Could you sing your

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theme song for Lenny and Molly? Lenny and

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Molly, the best of friends. They don't know

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it yet, but they're gonna be friends. We've got

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Len and Molly. Moo.

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One is cute and the other is too. The last.

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The last lines need a lot of work. Okay, wait, so. But you're so good

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at theme songs. We need one for grief season.

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Yeah. Okay, so grief season is here. It's November. Let's

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talk about grief season. Why the heck is it grief season? Well,

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I'd say grief for us, like for me and Alana, you can speak to

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it too. For me, November's really hard. December is like semi hard.

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January is hard. February fucking sucks.

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And then March is like. And then like eh.

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Like March isn't great. Or

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April, May, June. Yeah, April's okay. May, June

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sucks. July. July to October is our. Our like

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period. We thrive. Okay, so. So grief season really though

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is. I'd say like November to February. Yeah, yeah. March

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for me. But no February. Yeah. So November.

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Well, November is when I suffered a miscarriage.

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It's our dad's birthday. He'd be 70 this year. And

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it's when Dave, my father in law died. Yeah.

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And it's one moment. That's why my endo and my cramps are so bad. Like

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maybe my body's like remembering because the body keeps score, right? And

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like maybe, maybe it's. I'm having some somatic

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happening. Blair. Kaplan comma somatic shit's

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happening. No, I've already kept out my five.

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Oh, you can swap. Okay. Yeah. So grief

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month. So like what's really crazy is like right now when, when

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you're watching this, I'm actually on a grief trip. So I co

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facilitate grief trips with Rachel from Happy Grieving. We went to

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Bali in the spring and now we're doing a grief trip in Australia. And I

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think it's really beautiful that I actually get to be amongst other

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Grievers holding space, co facilitating during

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two of these ins like really intense dates and

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that I don't. I knew, I mean I wouldn't be alone

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anyways, but that like I'm around people

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in a safe container. So like November 3rd is a really hard day.

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Like the miscarriage was extremely devastating. And then like

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I don't know how you and I are going to celebrate dad's birthday because of

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the time zone. It's going to be on different days. Yeah, we can solve.

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We'll have to figure out a time to FaceTime because what we, you know, we,

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we. Lana and I've talked about this before but you know, the

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continuing bonds theory about like, you know, keeping the, you know, traditions

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and relationship after the someone is gone and one of them with

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like the ritual we do is we usually like get a dessert and light a

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candle for our parents on their birthdays. Our mom gets a special cake, our dad

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gets whatever. Yeah. So

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yeah, so it's gonna be good to be with, you know, fellow Grievers

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on those days. What are you

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doing? His namesake wanted to come say hi. Oh yeah,

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Lenny. Lenny Jr. Lenny's here.

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So Atlanta, like what do you do to protect yourself in grief season or prepare

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for grief season? It's a lot of

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self care and right now part of that

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is like comfort shows.

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So I have a roster of comfort shows. What are they? Okay,

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well, typically Broad City,

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Grey's Anatomy was. But that's like an every other year

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comfort show because it's, it's a long one. It's a long one.

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You mean you do the whole season series? Oh my

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God. Alana. Yeah. Greece, Anatomies. She's.

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Summer House is usually. So you're not just watching a show, you're

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starting it from the beginning and like re watching a whole series.

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Well, Broad City, I can, I do both at Summer House.

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I usually start from season three.

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But what, what I'm doing right now also is watching Survivor from the beginning.

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I think I've mentioned it before. I've set myself a Goal that I need

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to watch all seasons before season 50

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airs in February, assuming it airs in

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February. And I'm at season 22 right now.

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So I do a lot of that. I do a lot of this, which is

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cuddling my cats. I protect myself. I go to

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Pilates. Like, moving my body is very important.

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And I'm such, like, an introvert. I

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like to spend a lot of time, like, at home on my couch, but I

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have to effort it sometimes it takes a lot of

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effort. Make sure to, like, see people I care about. That's how I

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protect myself. And then I, like, look at pictures, let myself cry.

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That's my grief season. And then we go on

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grief week. Well, we're not there yet. No, that's

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November. November. November is the start of the, like,

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comfort shows. Oh, yeah. How about you?

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Aside from going on a trip, Move my body. I

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journal depending on how I'm feeling and

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what I'm doing. Seeking mental health support from a

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professional. Oh, yes. Asking for help when I need it.

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Cancel. Like, this week's been really hard. Maybe it's grief. Maybe. Well,

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it is. It's stuff. It's. I'm canceling plans. Like, I put myself

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first. Like, I, you know, canceling plans. Like,

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yesterday I ended up horizontal for the whole afternoon.

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Sleep and rest are really important for me.

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Listening to music, not watching too much tv. I'm

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the other way when, like, I'll watch tv, but I

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won't binge. I won't binge watch. I will try and

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do more like reading and getting off the screen or more like arts and

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crafts. This year is going to be different. Like, I'm going to be

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traveling. I'm going to be in Australia for

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most of November. And then on the way home from.

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To celebrate grief Month, on the way home from my grief trip, we're going to

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a grief conference. Alana and I are going to end well in LA and then

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grieftastic and probably some other grief events. And I'm filming for a

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documentary about grief. So, like this, we are, like, doing grief

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month in. Well, I am doing grief month in style, and Alana and I are

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really honoring grief month by doing some griefy gal activities.

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Yeah. Yeah. So every year it's different. And, like, I guess it just depends on

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what's going on in my life. Like, the last few years have been heavy, but

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I'm also in. Currently managing a situation right now, too.

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Yeah. So, like, you're in it. I mean, it's like layers.

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There's just lots of layers. And.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm really happy. Like

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I'm solar powered. And again, Alana and I talked about this on our old

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podcast. In this podcast, like, it's way better to be warm and

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sad, then cold and sad. So like Australia, here

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I come. As the winter comes in Canada,

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I head to the B.

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The B. Okay. So you might also

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be thinking, what's a grief trip? And the website's grieftrips.com and I,

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I come in as a co facilitator. But there's trips around the world and

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which provide a safe container to explore

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and heal grief with like minded people and exploring different parts of

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the world. So we also have a trip coming up in February, which is the

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end of grief season for me. Maldives. I'm going to the

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Maldives. And you can come to anyone

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listening. And Atlanta, but Atlanta can't because we also have our own grief week.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I

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mean, what else is going on with you? How's your

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work? It's work is work.

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You still love anxiety? I still love anxiety.

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Oh, I was. We were talking about this in your course. Blair does a wonderful

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grief course, if you're interested in the next talk about that. I'll talk about

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that in a second. But yeah, so let's back up. We're sitting around at Rosh

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Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, catching up, and someone asked

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Alana about her job and like, she was working in

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palliative. And Alana goes, I love death.

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Well, because everyone always like, the reaction's always like, oh, it's like so hard.

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I'm like, I love working with death. No, but you're like, I love death.

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I do. But that's what you said. I. I

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said that? Yeah. You okay?

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And then. So now her new job works more with anxiety than

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death. Yeah. She also said I have a sprinkle of

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death still. So she. So Aladdin and I were doing a Q A

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for my, my training course, which I'll talk about in a second. And she goes,

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I love anxiety. I do

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anxiety and like death and dying are like the areas I'm

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passionate about. And yeah.

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So. Oh, this is a fun little thing. So where I'm working

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now, it's part of like a big hospital system.

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And if you need any furniture for

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your office, there's like this person you call. And someone was telling me

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yesterday that they went to go, like, look to see. And so I was like,

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well, I want to go do that and see what I can find. I love

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little, like, things. So I emailed and she was like,

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okay, like you can come by. This is how you get there. It was like

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all the way around the big hospital system up on this

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floor that like only like certain people get

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access to. And it's like a big warehouse of just like

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ghosts of furniture past. And then she's like a little

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office in the corner. And I was like, I need a

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side table because I got an espresso off of Marketplace so I

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don't keep buying Starbucks every day. And

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I found a little side table. And that was really exciting.

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That was like my excitement today. Oh,

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us Kaplan sisters. We got a new side table

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from the hospital. Molly's here.

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Can you favor purring? No. So just to wrap up,

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I guess the course like. Yeah. So I just finished running

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the first cohort of the Navigating Grief.

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Sorry. It's the grief and resilience expert certification

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course where I certify you in the Navigating

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Grief framework. And anyone can take this. It can be a griever.

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You can be a mental health professional, a human. Doesn't really matter.

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We had an occupational therapist, a

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psychologist, teacher,

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publisher of a magazine, dentist,

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to name a few people who are looking at entering the grief

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space as a career. And we just wrapped up and it was six

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weeks and it was amazing. We had guest experts, including Alana.

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We had someone specialize in ambiguous grief. We had a grief therapist out of New

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York. We had a third generation medicine woman. And it was just

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such a beautiful training. And the feedback

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I've been getting is amazing where I'm training you in this framework that I created,

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which is all based on neuroscience. And I don't believe there's anything like it out

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there. And what's really cool is this is something to layer on to all the

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other grief work that has been done, the other frameworks that exist out there, the

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other processes and systems. And so we're going to do it again in

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January and it's going to be a faster model. It's going to be

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twice a week for three weeks starting January 6th. So it's going to be Tuesdays

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and Thursdays for three weeks and it's going to be live

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classes, audio lessons, exercises, guest experts

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and yeah, so I'll put that link in the show notes because

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it's going to be limited spots available. But. But I'm really

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excited that we're gonna actually, I get to promote this at Grieftastic,

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which is like a scholastic book fair for grief. And it happens right after end

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well. And I'm just like really excited about It. Because when I have

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been doing this training and it's so fulfilling and also, like, I

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just love it because I know that this is what carried me through my

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crazy season of grief. And also

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because I live and breathe this framework navigating Shane's

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health right now. My nervous system has stayed in check. Not my endo, but

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almost everything else. Like, I'm a completely different person navigating this than I did

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like last time. Like, I'm for sure. Like, it's like I'm a whole different

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person. So, like, I'm a living, breathing example of

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this framework. So thank you for the. Yeah, for

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the. For the kind words about that sister. Yeah, of

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course. And yeah, you get to experience me

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if you do it. Yeah.

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Anyways, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good update for today. Yeah, I think

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so. Covered a lot of things. It's grief season. You know, if you're like, how

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can I support the Kaplan sisters during grief season? I don't know, maybe you send

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us gift cards. Maybe you join our Patreon, which is going to be activated soon

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because we're working on a TV show and we're starting to take you guys behind

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the scenes if you are part of our Patreon. So. So

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that's all that's about it today. Any final words?

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Nope. This is where I usually start to lose it.

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Well, thank you for tuning into another episode.

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Alana. Shut your. Shut your.

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We need just a pre recorded exit. We do. We'll just

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like. You got it. You got. You got it. Okay.

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I don't know your spiel. You're the spiel. Do yours. You

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get to wrap it. Alani, we've been podcasting for like four years. I

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know you can do it. I believe in you. Everyone pay attention.

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Alana's going to wrap this episode. Thank you for joining us.

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That was pretty good. You can do better. I wasn't

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done, but the laughs came here. I'll turn my camera off.

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Okay. Thank you for joining us on another episode of Resilient

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af. This is a reminder that you are

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resilient. Good job. Thanks,

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everyone.

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