Oh, hey, look!
Speaker:It's a microphone back in my face again.
Speaker:And for you, it's the sound of Evo coming into your ears.
Speaker:Hello!
Speaker:No, it is not yet time for season four of Podcast Pontifications to begin.
Speaker:Very close, like really soon it's coming out.
Speaker:Like on July, the 12th of 2021.
Speaker:That's right!
Speaker:I'll be back on July 12th, 2021 with season four of Podcast Pontifications.
Speaker:Prior to that, however, I want you to listen to this.
Speaker:This is a guest episode of Podcast Pontifications done by Mr.
Speaker:York Campbell.
Speaker:He's got some things to say, some lessons you can learn from audio drama.
Speaker:So give York a listen.
Speaker:Hear the three tips he has to say.
Speaker:And I'll be back very soon, again, on July 12th, 2021 with brand new episodes
Speaker:of Podcast Pontifications Season Four.
Speaker:Cheers!
Speaker:How Audio Drama Techniques Can Improve Your Podcast
Speaker:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, York
Speaker:Campbell, filling in for Evo Terra.
Speaker:I feel that audio dramas - they're like the Rodney Dangerfield of
Speaker:podcasting, meaning they get no respect.
Speaker:[joke drum sound] I am a podcast writer and also a producer.
Speaker:I produce two audio dramas.
Speaker:One is called Poetic Earthlings and the other Most Precious Commodity.
Speaker:I feel, though, that a lot of podcasters, they don't really
Speaker:think too much about audio dramas.
Speaker:Whenever you think of podcasting, what first comes to mind?
Speaker:Politics, maybe current events, sports, technology, those types of things.
Speaker:But you know what?
Speaker:Audio dramas, they've been around a very long time.
Speaker:It predates even TV.
Speaker:You remember those old shows?
Speaker:I mean, there's Dragnet, there's Superman.
Speaker:They gathered around the radio.
Speaker:I'm sure you've seen those pictures before of the old-fashioned huge radio
Speaker:and the family is just gathered around it, listening to their favorite shows.
Speaker:That's the power of audio dramas.
Speaker:Even if you do not write or produce audio dramas, there's
Speaker:a lot to be learned from them.
Speaker:I'm going to give you three different things.
Speaker:The first one is attention to detail.
Speaker:Audio dramas, they are obsessed when it comes to detail.
Speaker:The sound quality has to be just right.
Speaker:The sound effects, the sound bed, and all of the technical
Speaker:things are always on point.
Speaker:It's never by chance.
Speaker:Whenever they produce their show, if there is one word or if there's
Speaker:one phrase that's a little bit, not the greatest, they edit it out.
Speaker:Too often you hear shows where the announcer sneezes or coughs.
Speaker:[coughing sound] A lot of times I hear a show and the cell
Speaker:phone rings in the studio.
Speaker:[phone ringing sound] Rather than editing out the cell phone or the sneezes,
Speaker:the coughs, they just leave it in.
Speaker:[sneeze sound] Sounds kind of sloppy, right?
Speaker:Doesn't it sound sloppy to you if you hear a host and he's
Speaker:just coughing and hacking away?
Speaker:Can he at least just take the time and just edit it out?
Speaker:Or when you hear a podcaster that's kind of rambling on and on and hopefully
Speaker:I'm not one of those podcasters.
Speaker:Couldn't she just take the time and just edit out all the rambling?
Speaker:Well, that's what the audio drama podcasters - they're
Speaker:really good about that.
Speaker:They're good at the attention to detail.
Speaker:I think that could help us out as well.
Speaker:Also, there's direction and focus.
Speaker:This is step number two if you're following along.
Speaker:Direction and focus is a big thing.
Speaker:I can't stand podcasters that get on the microphone and they have
Speaker:no idea the direction of the show.
Speaker:I don't want to call anyone out, but I was listening to this
Speaker:one podcast and I recorded a little bit of a snippet for you.
Speaker:I'm just going to play it so that you can see what I'm getting at.
Speaker:So here we go.
Speaker:[show clip starts] Yo uhh, yo well, welcome to the show.
Speaker:Big Jim
Speaker:- Yo yo yo!
Speaker:He's over there.
Speaker:Tiny Jim.
Speaker:Yo, Tiny Jim!
Speaker:Yeah, man.
Speaker:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker:[cackle laugh]
Speaker:So, we got a show that we're gonna like drop on you today and
Speaker:- Yeah, that's right, man.
Speaker:Ha!
Speaker:We got a show!
Speaker:I-Idon't know.
Speaker:Like where do you want to take the show?
Speaker:Like so many different directions, you know?
Speaker:Oh, for real?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Uhhh Do you think they'd be interested in that?
Speaker:Like, like what about that thing that you and I did last, last weekend?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Remember the thing?
Speaker:Ha, oh man.
Speaker:We can't drop them on that, man.
Speaker:I don't know, man.
Speaker:Well, yo, i-i-it's up to you.
Speaker:Like, okay.
Speaker:We got like, like all different topics, right?
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We got so many things.
Speaker:But what about the theater thing?
Speaker:You know, man?
Speaker:Oh, all right.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So, okay.
Speaker:Like what about if we started with a lightning round?
Speaker:Do you got that?
Speaker:Do you got that cued up, man?
Speaker:Do you got that lightning round?
Speaker:Hold up.
Speaker:Hold up.
Speaker:Hold up.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Come on.
Speaker:Where's that button?
Speaker:Where's that button?
Speaker:Ahhh.
Speaker:Nahhh.
Speaker:It's not working.
Speaker:Yeah okay, whatever.
Speaker:So, okay.
Speaker:I guess
Speaker:- You know, ahh - man, we could
Speaker:We could talk about my, I guess my, my new car that we got - [show clip fades out]
Speaker:As you could see, this show lacks direction and focus.
Speaker:They have all the energy.
Speaker:I like their spunk.
Speaker:I like their enthusiasm.
Speaker:But when you listen to this show, you have no idea what they're
Speaker:going to be talking about.
Speaker:Are they going to be talking about a movie that somebody saw?
Speaker:I think he said that he went to the theater.
Speaker:Are they going to be talking about a new car?
Speaker:What is the purpose of the show?
Speaker:There's this other show that I used to listen to and the tagline
Speaker:is "They talk about everything."
Speaker:You can't just talk about everything.
Speaker:That's way too vague.
Speaker:So the audio dramas, they don't do that.
Speaker:They always have a focus.
Speaker:Number three on our list is unfolding a story.
Speaker:Audio dramas are great for that.
Speaker:I mean, it's built right into it.
Speaker:It's an audio drama.
Speaker:You're listening to a story.
Speaker:And the story has intrigue, passion.
Speaker:It's like a striptease.
Speaker:[catcall whistle sound] It's like an onion, peeling layer after
Speaker:layer until you get to the nucleus.
Speaker:There's a lot to be learned from listening to a good story.
Speaker:In fact, if you want to be a very good podcaster, doesn't matter the
Speaker:genre that you're in, listen to an audio trauma, a very good one.
Speaker:See how they bring you in with a good story.
Speaker:They don't reveal everything upfront, but they lay breadcrumbs for you to follow.
Speaker:When you get there, when you get to the end it's always satisfying.
Speaker:So that's about it.
Speaker:What we need to do is we need to pay attention to detail, direction and
Speaker:focus, and also unfolding a story.
Speaker:If you want to check out my stories, I produce two shows, Poetic Earthlings,
Speaker:and also Most Precious Commodity.
Speaker:You can go to my website poeticearthlings.com.
Speaker:Evo will be back in July, 2021 with yet another Podcast Pontifications.