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Rent, Reuse, Relove: Reducing Fashion Waste, One Rented Dress at a Time
Episode 519th March 2024 • Reloved Radio: Sustainable Fashion Stories • Chryssius Dunn
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Angela Pike from Lucida Boutique Dress Hire chats about the prevalence of "wear once culture" and the transformative role of rental in fashion. She shares her sustainability strategies, from utilising eco-friendly packaging to eliminating plastic, and discusses how she curates trendsetting pieces with sustainability in mind. Through heartfelt anecdotes, Angela reveals the transformative power of conscious consumerism, shedding light on how Lucida Boutique is reshaping the future of fashion, one rented dress at a time.

Guest bio:

Hi, I’m Ange, creator and owner of lucida boutique - a dress hire boutique is Ballarat Victoria. In 2019 I created a beautiful and inviting space where women can browse through an extensive and ever-changing range of designer dresses. Women hire the dress they choose, wear it to their special event and then return to the boutique. The process is personalised, stress-free, affordable and environmentally conscious.

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Angela's Website

@lucidaboutique_dresshire on Instagram

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This is Reloved Radio: Sustainable Fashion Stories, the fortnightly show that brings you inspiring stories from guests who are making a positive impact in the sustainable fashion space.

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Ange:

Everyone's got a story of a dress that they've bought and they've only

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worn once, and now it's stuck hanging

in their cupboard, like everyone's

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done that at some stage in their life.

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That's why the rental industry is

fantastic, because this one garment

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is getting worn up to 30 times.

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Chryssius: Hey, Relovers.

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Welcome back to another

episode of Reloved Radio.

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Today I have the pleasure of chatting

with a trailblazer in the world of

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sustainable fashion and entrepreneurship.

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Please join me in welcoming Angela

Pike, the creative force and owner of

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Lucida Boutique Dress Hire, a conscious

fashion space that blends high-end style

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with a commitment to sustainability.

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Ange, welcome to Reloved Radio!

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Ange: Thank you so much.

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What an intro.

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That was so nice.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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Chryssius: Your journey is a little bit

different to the ones that I have shared

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lately, coming at sustainable fashion

from a completely different angle.

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Do you reckon you could just tell us

the story behind how Lucida Boutique

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came to be and also how its values

align with sustainable fashion?

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Ange: I started Lucida Dress Hire

back in:

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I started as I thought the concept as

a business was such a great idea and

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something unique that has only just

started to emerge, you know, over the

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last decade and thought this is such a

great business idea to get started with.

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And I'd never owned a business

before this and I thought this

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was a perfect way to get my foot

in the door as a business owner.

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And initially it was just that,

it was just a business idea.

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And one, you know, in, I love

retail, I love working with, um,

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customers in store, face-to-face.

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That's always been a

passion of mine as well.

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So I thought it'd be a perfect

place for me to start off with.

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And it wasn't really until I got in

the research phase of the business and

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really started to get things going that,

I realised actually the impact that

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a rental business, especially rental

business for clothing, that it is making

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such a great impact on the environment.

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I had no idea how awful fast fashion was

and the effects it was actually having

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on our environment with the amount

of textile waste - I didn't know

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textile waste was a thing, like when

you talk about recycling, you always

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just immediately picture, you know, oh,

I've got my yellow bin, so, you know, I

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recycle all my bottles and things at home.

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Not once have I ever thought about the

fabric waste in landfill until I started

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this business and it just made me go,

well, even more big of a tick with

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this business is look what it can do.

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If it's only helping a little bit.

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At least it's helping.

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Chryssius: Do you talk to your

customers about the impact of fast

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fashion on the environment and

why renting is a better option?

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Like, does that ever

come up in conversation?

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Ange: Yeah, naturally,

obviously a lot easier with some

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customers compared to others.

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I do try and talk about it a lot

through social media, but the

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conversations I have with customers

in store as well, I think initially

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when they're coming through the door,

you know, majority of them aren't

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really thinking about that side of it.

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However, once they're in here and seeing

how great the process is and we start

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talking about, and everyone's got a story

of a dress that they've bought and they've

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only worn once, and now it's stuck hanging

in their cupboard, like everyone's done

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that at some stage in their life and

they don't realise that it's, everyone

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is doing that and that's why it's so bad.

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So they love the idea of

being able to rent a dress.

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A, because it's convenient and affordable,

but it's just having that extra feel

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good moment for them going, "Well, I'm

actually helping the environment as well."

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Chryssius: For sure.

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Are there any sort of memorable moments

or memorable things that your customers

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have said about that part of the business?

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Ange: I think it's more their reaction

to hearing the good side of it when

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it comes to sustainability, like I

said, it's more I am educating people.

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They don't necessarily like

95% of them wouldn't consider

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the sustainability side of it.

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So I think the fact that them listening

and actually taking on board that

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this is something good, we are sort of

eliminating fast fashion by renting a

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piece instead of buying something new.

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I can tell they've got that feel

good in them when I tell them that.

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So I think, well, I've just

educated them on that like that.

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And that makes me feel good.

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'cause I think I'm spreading this

even further like it was with me.

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I did, I had no idea.

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So I've learned, now I'm passing it

on to everyone that comes in as well.

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So it's more about that

education side of it.

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I think that has the impact on me

knowing, well, hopefully I have now

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turned a corner in that person's

path when it comes to their choices,

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when it comes to purchasing garments.

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Not just dresses, but

everything in their wardrobe.

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So yeah, I love that side of it, being

able to educate people around that.

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Chryssius: Are you renting just dresses?

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Ange: I started with just dresses.

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Yes.

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And that is majority of my

business, but being Ballarat

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based, we get very cold winters.

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So I have introduced faux

fur coats for wintertime.

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So it completes the outfit.

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I haven't really branched

out in any other ways.

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It's mainly for special occasions.

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So these faux fur coats

obviously compliment the dresses.

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I haven't really thought about stepping

outside of that realm just yet.

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I think the designer wear for special

occasions is the main focus at the moment.

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Chryssius: And being in Ballarat

myself, I can totally vouch

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for the need for a nice coat.

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There's nothing worse than when you have

a beautiful dress on and then you're going

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to go put your puffer over the top of it.

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Ange: Exactly.

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Yes.

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That's the last thing you want to

do, but you want to be warm as well.

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So

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having the faux fur coats is perfect.

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Yeah.

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Chryssius: How has your business

made a difference in the local

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community when it comes to being more

sustainable and as we were saying,

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cutting down on the fashion waste?

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Ange: This is tricky as, I guess like

I'm still a small boutique, so I don't

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feel like I'm making a huge impact.

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I think coming back to that education side

of it, that might be having more of an

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impact rather than anything physically.

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However, in saying that every dress that

I do rent to someone, I have potentially

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saved one other dress going into landfill.

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So if someone's not renting, they're

potentially just buying a one-off

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dress that they're 95% chance they're

not going to wear again, 'cause

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that's usually what's happening.

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And it ends up in there.

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It might be a very long process,

but that dress is going to end

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up in their wardrobe not worn.

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And it's then either going to get thrown

away at some point or at some stage in its

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life, it's going to end up in landfill.

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So the one dress that I've now

rented out, I've rented that out

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instead of it going to landfill.

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And that same dress that I've

rented is going out multiple times.

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Instead of ending up in landfill.

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So someone coming in to rent a dress,

that one particular dress might also

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get rented 15 to 20 other times as well.

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So that dress is getting its full wear out

of that fabric rather than just the one.

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Chryssius: Absolutely.

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Can you share some of the things that

you do to be more eco-friendly and reduce

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your environmental footprint, that

aren't necessarily just the dresses?

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Ange: Of course.

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So for me, there's a couple of things

that I do that I'm really conscious of

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because as I get dresses delivered to me,

I see the amount of plastic that they come

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from, from all of the , manufacturers.

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It's so much plastic.

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It's made me very conscious of the

amount of plastic I use in my business.

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So the first thing I did, was

when I would get all my dresses

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returned from the dry cleaners.

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They'd all be individually

bagged in these plastic bags.

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You know the big plastic bags

you get from the dry cleaners?

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So the first thing I said was,

stop putting them in the bags.

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They're just going straight from

the dry cleaners to my car to the

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shop, so they don't need the plastic.

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Just give them to me on the hangers.

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So we've eliminated all of that plastic

for them to be, and it's just one off.

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I did ask them and

said, do you reuse this?

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And they said, you can bring 'em back in.

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But uh, to be honest, I think

they would just throw it out.

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So I've eliminated all of the

plastic from the dry cleaners.

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I give them back all of their

coat hangers, all of the clips,

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everything that they use.

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I rotate them back to the dry

cleaners to then reuse again.

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On another side of it, with the postal

orders that I do, I don't use any

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plastic when it comes to that as well.

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I use compostable mailers.

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And with those mailers, they

usually have a double tab.

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So that one mailer gets used twice.

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So because my dresses need to be returned,

I'll pop them in this one satchel.

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I will use it once, the customers will

cut along the dotted line, they put

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the dress back into that same satchel

to then send it back to me again.

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So we're eliminating one whole plastic

bag with the return, just by using

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this particular branded satchel.

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And they're compostable

so they break down.

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So they're, yeah, they're a fantastic

business and I think they're

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doing really good things as well.

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Chryssius: Can you just put

those in your home compost?

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Ange: You can, you've got to cut off the

shipping label, or if you use like the

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express post sticker, so any stickers

have to be cut off, but yeah, I just

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put them straight into my green bin.

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After I've taken all the plastic,

like all the paper stickers and stuff

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off, I pop them just straight in the

green bin so they can do that as well.

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You don't even have to

compost them as such.

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They can go in your green bin at

home, but if you did want to compost

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them, you just cut them into strips

and then you put them in the compost.

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It's so easy.

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Chryssius: The world of fashion is

just ever-changing, it's so fast.

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How do you manage to offer items that

are on-trend, while also staying true

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to that commitment to sustainability?

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Like what are your, unspoken rules around

the dresses that you source for your shop?

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Ange: This is tricky because this is

a learning curve for me too, and a

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lot of my choices are quite limited

or left for those bigger brands to

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decide on what their sustainability

practices are going to be.

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I'm only exposed to a certain amount

of dresses being in the production line

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like, I'm not making the dresses myself,

I'm wholesaling them from other labels.

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So for me, I'm putting a lot of trust in

those labels, doing the right thing on

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their end for their sustainable practices.

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For then, to me make a decision

on a particular dress that

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it is right for everybody.

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I think when I choose the range that I

do have, I want the most that I can get

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for that one particular dress that I can.

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So it comes down for me choosing

the quality of the fabrics, which

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naturally, with the level that the

ones I stock, naturally, the quality's

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going to be there regardless.

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I'm choosing something that I

know is going to wear really well

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and for a long period of time.

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It's really hard 'cause some people

do want to stick with the trends and

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what's trending at the moment, but

for me it's trying to find a balance

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of both, something that's on trend

but will also wear for a long time.

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And I think the great thing about my

particular audience here in Ballarat,

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I think, there's always someone at

their stage in life that they're

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happy to wear a dress, even if it was

trending 12 months ago, they would

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still like to wear it 12 months later

they want to, they've, they've seen

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it in that path for that 12 months.

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And then it comes for a chance for that

particular customer to have a go and

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they think, no, I still want to wear this

even if it hasn't been worn for a long

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time, I actually want to be part of that

journey and I'm now going to wear it too.

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So I think even when things are trending

initially at the start, they are trending

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for just that little, little period.

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But I still get the trickle effect.

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I don't just get rid of the dresses

after, you know, three months just

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'cause they're not trending anymore.

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There is someone out there all

the time that still wants to

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wear that dress, which is great.

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It does make it hard because you do want

to pick things that everyone wants, but

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you've still got to be conscious about

like a, from a business per perspective,

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is this going to make me money?

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But also is this dress going to be worn

for a long period of time and still

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align with our sustainable practices?

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Chryssius: That's the thing as well,

like you want it to have a longer

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lifespan than just one fashion season.

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Ange: Yeah.

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It's just trying to find that

balance, I guess, which is tricky

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'cause you do want to keep up with

the trends, but you also want, you

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want the longevity there as well.

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So yeah, that is, that is tricky.

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But it's always going

to be there, I think.

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Chryssius: Yeah.

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How many, or what percentage would

you say lean more towards classic

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pieces and then what percentage

is more into the trendier pieces?

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Ange: I would say it would, it would

be 50/50 because there are a lot of

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people that come in hoping to get

something that's on trend 'cause they've

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seen it on social media or Instagram

and, and they desperately want to

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wear that particular style or dress.

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However, out of that 50% that come in

for those on-trend pieces, majority of

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those do end up leaving with something

completely different altogether.

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So I think their expectation is that

they want to get something on trend

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'cause that's all they've seen.

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However, when they actually try these

pieces on and then realise, well that

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was right for that particular person,

but that's not right for my body shape.

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And I actually, I don't feel good in this.

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I actually want to wear something

that I do feel good in and end

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up wearing something that they've

then dressed for their body shape,

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which I've helped them with rather

than something that's on trend.

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So they've left with a completely

different mindset about how they

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choose dresses now because their

eyes have been opened up to a whole

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new range of all these other items.

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And they could be timeless pieces because

that's what's better for their body

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and we're dressing them as their body

and what looks beautiful on them as

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a person rather than what's trending.

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Chryssius: I can vouch for that because

I distinctly remember when I got a

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dress from you and I had picked out

a bunch of different options from

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your website, and you know, these are

dresses that I thought Oh, definitely.

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And the dress that I ended up wearing

for that particular event was a

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dress that I would never in a million

years have thought that that was

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something that I would go with, or

something that I would even wear.

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You know, I had in my head, oh, I

want to wear this kind of dress.

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But when I tried them on, they looked

terrible on me, and that's nothing

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against the dresses, it's just they

weren't right for my body type.

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So yeah, I went with a

completely different dress.

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Ange: Yes, it's really hard 'cause the

stigma is this is what looks good on

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Instagram, so that should look good on me.

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But people get caught up in that and

forget that I should be dressing for

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my body shape and what looks good for

me, not necessarily what's on trend.

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So just breaking down those barriers of

people's thoughts on what they should

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be doing and what's better for them.

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Chryssius: That's a topic that's also come

up a few times in previous interviews.

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We get so caught up in the outfit not

looking good on us, and then we blame

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it on us when at the end of the day,

they're not made for every body type.

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Ange: People feel like they have to

change their body or lose a bit of

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weight or do whatever they need to

to fit into that particular dress in

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instead of there is a dress or there is

a style out there for every body shape.

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We just have to find it

for you as an individual.

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You don't have to change who you are.

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Like that's the last thing

anyone should be doing.

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So.

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Chryssius: Exactly.

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Just out of curiosity, how many dresses

do you have on hand at any given time?

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Ange: I actually don't know.

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My husband asked me this question not long

ago and I said, actually, I don't know.

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When I first started, I was so excited.

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I had just over a hundred, I was between

a hundred and 150 dresses, and I was so

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pumped 'cause I thought that was so many.

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And I would look at it

now and I think, oh...

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I'd just be guessing, but I'd be up

around 450, close to 500 dresses.

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But that's because I stock, like

that's not one particular style.

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So I would, in one style, I will

stock at least three different

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sizes in that particular style.

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So that's where the numbers

add up, because I have

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multiples in just one style.

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Chryssius: That makes sense.

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Are there certain features in your,

in the designs that you choose to make

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sure that they're versatile and durable?

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I know that you mentioned that at

the price point that you're buying

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these or getting these dresses in,

like quality is there, but is there

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anything else that you are looking at?

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Ange: The fabric is the main thing,

so I have to go to Melbourne, so I

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have to travel to do my buying trips.

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I don't always get there, and I

sometimes have to do them just online

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through lookbooks and things, which

every time I do it that way, I always

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end up choosing something that,

yeah, isn't quite right because I

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need to get a feel for each fabric.

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It's the fabric and the detailing in each

dress that makes a big difference for

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the longevity of that particular garment.

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So I am always on the lookout

for quality fabric, is it lined?

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Does it have good zips?

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What are the details like?

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Some, some designers like to have at

least one item in their collection that's

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really out there, or really delicate or

whatever it might be, which is great for

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a one-time wear, but you know, as soon

as we start dry cleaning these dresses

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multiple times, those things break down.

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And then the the look of that

dress has changed just purely

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because we've washed that dress.

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So, and I've done that just by learning

from my mistakes as to what I should pick.

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And, and while I do get things

repaired, there are certain fabrics

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that don't necessarily last, the

distance compared to some other ones.

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So I do have to look out for what's

going to be better for the long

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run rather than having to pick

something that is just going to be

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able to only be worn once or twice.

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And that is something that , those

designers should be considering

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when they're designing these

dresses in the first place.

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Can this dress be worn more than

once and cleaned more than once?

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And if it can't, then they shouldn't

be even producing that item.

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Chryssius: Mm-Hmm.

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That is such a good point.

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Ange: But that's every, that's every

label and that's even, you know, you

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look even higher up with the even more

higher end labels, and it happens all

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the time with like Gucci, and they

might make this gorgeous skirt, but it's

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got this detail of the Gucci part on

the top that's like a brass buckle or

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something, and it's stitched into the

fabric, and that makes it impossible to

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clean because that then runs or catches

on the fabric and then it ruins it.

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So you can't even, some

designers don't even consider

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one wash, let alone multiple.

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Which is awful.

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Chryssius: They're literally

designing it as a one wear type item.

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Ange: Yeah.

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Chryssius: How long would you

say then would be the average

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lifespan for your pieces?

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Ange: Uh, some last longer than others,

and that's sort of in more ways than one.

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So if I sort of give an example of a

really popular item, so one particular

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dress that might I like, I've got

quite a few in here that I've had

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for two years, maybe three that are

still popular, still renting out.

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And they're still coming back great.

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So they're still getting washed.

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Obviously they're not like new condition.

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They have been worn, but they're

still great quality where they

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still can be worn and it still looks

like a beautiful designer dress.

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These types of dresses are usually

those classic and timeless pieces.

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Yeah, like I said, two to three

years potentially for one item.

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So that could be rented 30 plus

times and washed 30 plus times.

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You think if you were to buy a dress

or any garment for that reason,

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are you going to wear it 30 times?

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That's why the rental industry is

fantastic, because this one garment is

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getting worn up to 30 times, which would

not happen if that one consumer isn't

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going to potentially wear it 30 times.

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Chryssius: Mm-Hmm.

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Then when they come to the end

of their lifecycle with you,

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what happens to them then?

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Ange: So I always have a sales section

on my website, and I also do two in-store

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sales per year, where, I choose a

select range of dresses that are at

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the end of their lifecycle, where I

think they're just not at that quality.

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They've just been worn way too many times.

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It's time to move these on.

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Or I've made a bad decision in one

of those and it's just not renting

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well, I then sell those items to

consumers, and usually those particular

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people that are buying those items,

they've had their eye on it for a

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while and they've always wanted it,

but could never buy it at full price.

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Whereas now they're getting it as a

secondhand piece at a much cheaper price,

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and they're just as happy because they

then, it's going off to a new home.

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It's getting worn by new people.

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Rather than sitting here on the

floor, not doing anything or

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sitting here out in storage.

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So it's nice for me to be able to move

those items on to a new home to get

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loved by someone else all over again.

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Chryssius: I think that's fantastic.

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With more and more people, showing

an interest in things like purchasing

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secondhand and upcycling, do you

ever include any secondhand or

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upcycled fashion in your collections?

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Ange: I don't, at this stage, I don't

really have the capacity of my floor

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space here in the boutique that I have.

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It is only a small space, so I don't

have a huge amount of space to play with,

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with experimenting and things like that.

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I think potentially something for

me down the track is to have dresses

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on consignment so I could have other

people's dresses that they own in

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here on the floor to be rented so I'm

sort of renting it on their behalf.

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That is a potential option for me in

the future, which I've thought about.

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When it comes to formal dresses,

everyone's still got dresses in their

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cupboard that they're either willing to

sell or something needs to happen with it.

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Whether that's make a bit of

money off it by renting it.

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Chryssius: That's a really clever

way of doing it actually, because

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you're solving a problem for somebody

else who has this item hanging in

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their wardrobe, potentially not

being worn after being worn once.

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And it's something else that

you can offer your customers.

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Ange: Yes.

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Just more of a range.

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Yeah, and 'cause I only stock a

certain size range, so I will have

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people come in outside of that

size range and I can't help them.

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So that would then help a wider

audience in terms of sizing as well.

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Chryssius: Have you had any

real horror stories around a

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piece that you've rented out?

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Ange: There's a lot of trust in these

people that rent these dresses, but I

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don't really have any horror stories.

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Because people treat these

dresses with a lot of respect.

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When they're renting it, they treat it

like it's their own, which is fantastic.

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So, to be honest, the worst thing

that's happened is a cigarette burn

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in the fabric of one of the dresses.

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And we both, we were both freaking out.

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The customers freaking out.

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I was freaking out.

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It was sort of my first

like, damaged item.

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And, and they were freaking out

'cause then they were worried they

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were going to have to pay for this

dress and, I thought, oh, like

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I'll just take it to my seamstress.

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You just never know.

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Let me just, let's just do this

and we'll, we'll, we'll worry about

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it when she says it's no good.

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So I actually took it to my seamstress

and she solved the problem, the what,

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where it was and how the fabric sat.

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She was managed to put a seam in

it, and you could not even tell.

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So, to be honest, if that's, that's

not even really that much of a

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horror story because we were able

to solve the problem and I actually

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still have that dress on the rack.

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It's still renting out.

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So that was right at the start

of the business for me, and

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Yeah, I'm still renting it out.

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So that's not even really that much.

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That's kind of like a horror story as

well as a good story in there because we

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were able to, we were both worried, but

we were able to solve it and it was fine.

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But really, the worst part of the

rental side of it is, putting

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all my trust in Australia Post.

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So I post dresses out all the time,

all over Australia and Australia Post

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is probably like our biggest worry

usually about getting a dress on time.

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I have lost a dress in within

Australia Post system at some

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stage, which has never come back.

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So there's those kind of little things,

but they're out of your control and

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that's just all part of the process, so...

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Chryssius: That's amazing that you

are renting dresses Australia wide.

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I didn't realise.

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Ange: Yes.

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Which is crazy to think that when

I get a website order I think this

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person hasn't even tried it on.

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They're putting all this trust knowing

this dress is going to fit and they see

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it on the website and they put the booking

through the website and we send it off.

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So yeah.

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It's great.

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I send, send them off every week,

which is exciting 'cause I think, I

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don't know who this customer is and

it's sort of a feel good thing knowing

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that they've taken a part in this

small Ballarat business and putting

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trust in it for their special events.

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It's fun.

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It's another nice aspect of the business.

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Chryssius: I'd love to know

what your favourite part of

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your dress hire business is.

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Ange: There's so many good parts.

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My favourite part is the customers.

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When someone walks through the

door every day, that excites me.

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I love hearing people's stories.

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I love being able to help

them solve a problem for them.

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They're coming in, needing a

garment for a special event and

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majority of the time, they're either

nervous or not sure what they want.

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So I'm able to help that

and I love that part of it.

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And the best bit is they walk

out feeling so confident and so

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excited to wear one of my dresses

that just makes me feel so good.

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And then when they return, I get all

this amazing feedback from customers,

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special little notes in their

returns, like it just lights me up.

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I love it.

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I love being able to help people

and make them feel really good when

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they're wearing one of my dresses.

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That's the best part for sure.

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Chryssius: I know we touched on

earlier that the whole aspect of

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sustainability when it comes to fashion

didn't really come to your attention

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until you started this business.

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Has that inspired you in any way

to, for your own personal shopping,

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consider purchasing secondhand?

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Ange: Yes, absolutely.

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Personally for me, in terms of

just clothing, every day wear, I,

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I feel like I've always been pretty

savvy with that side of it anyway.

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To be honest, I thought that was

more of me being money-conscious.

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But I think now since running the

dress hire business and being more

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aware of fast fashion, it's just

cemented even more in my mind.

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Whether it be for money reasons, I'm

being more sustainable in that sense.

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It's not just about the money.

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I'm, helping reduce the environment

with this fabric waste in landfill.

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Personally I'm glad that I don't just go

out and buy one off pieces all the time.

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I've never really been like that anyway,

in my mind I thought it was because it was

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for money, but now I think it's, you know,

100% for helping to reduce that footprint.

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And I've always loved going into op-shops,

especially for, I've got three young kids.

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I love going in there and

buying secondhand toys for

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them or clothing for them.

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Like you always find such wonderful

things in secondhand stores.

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So that's always been a part of my

life anyway, but I've certainly

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far more conscious of it now.

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And if I do buy a new piece of

clothing, that question is always there.

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Am I going to wear this and am I going to

wear it long term rather than just once?

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If it's a winter item in

Ballarat, you've certainly got

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your chance to wear it 30 times!

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Chryssius: Yeah.

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Ange: And I think when I'm, in

the boutique and I'm on my social

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media accounts and I'm taking

photos of myself or whatever,

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you know, people are seeing me.

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I like that they will see me

in an item more than once.

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Like, just say, I am

wearing a statement piece.

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And I know that I've put that up on

my socials and that people would've

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seen me in that statement piece.

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I don't care that if that next week

I'm wearing that statement piece

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again, like I want them to see that

I'm wearing clothes more than once.

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So I'm conscious of that too, knowing

that we've got to break down those

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walls of, yes, people have seen me

in that particular top, but I want

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them to see me in that top again,

because I want them to know that that's

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what you do when you buy a piece.

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You wear it multiple times.

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Chryssius: There's this whole

culture around, "I've worn it once,

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I can't possibly wear it again

because what will people think?"

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Ange: It's awful.

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It's such a, I know.

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I wish we could break that down,

but in saying that, my rental

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business benefits from that.

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When it comes to dresses as such,

and that's such a common thing

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for people only to wear once, for

me as a business, it helps me.

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People are going to rent more if

they do only want to wear it once.

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So that's a really tricky

position for me to be in.

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While it's good for them to only want to

wear something once, that means they're

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going to come back and rent more often.

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Which is great for me as a business,

but I do wish we could cut that

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stigma somewhere along the line

because it's an awful mindset to be in

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thinking, I can only wear this once.

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Chryssius: Yeah, that's right.

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And I mean, at least when they're

coming to you, they're doing

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it in a more sustainable way.

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Ange: Yeah.

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Chryssius: Do your kids like

to go to the op-shop with you?

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Ange: Oh yeah.

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They love it.

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They think it's fantastic.

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Yeah.

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They expect we're going to get

something every time we go, of course.

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They're like, "I want

this" and "I want that."

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And yeah, they think it's great.

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And we pass that down

the line with them too.

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So when we go back home or whether it's

the day before we go to do something like

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that, I like, we are cleaning up our toys.

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Okay, you need to make a pile of toys

that you want to keep, a pile that you

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want to donate, and then obviously a pile

of broken ones that can't be replaced.

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But you know, there's always in

that, there's always a pile for

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them to donate to someone else

that can, that can use these toys.

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So I try and include them

in that process as well.

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Chryssius: Yeah, that's great.

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Is op-shopping something that

you did when you were younger?

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Like were you brought up

hitting the op-shops with your

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family or anything like that?

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Ange: I think so, we grew

up in a small country town.

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It was certainly part of

our lifestyle at some stage.

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But I had, I grew up with four

other sisters and we naturally

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shared clothes all the time.

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As soon as our eldest was out of hers,

it was all about the hand me down.

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So that was a massive

part of our upbringing.

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And to be honest, we still do it.

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We're all similar age.

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We all have young kids.

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We all pass our clothes and

everything around to each other.

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And that's not just the kids stuff.

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Like if my sister has a wardrobe

clean out, she'll send the bag over

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to me and I'll go through it and

I'll take out what I want before

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we pass it on to the next sister.

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So that's always been part of

our upbringing as well anyway.

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And I think, like I said it was more

of a budget conscious reason as to

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why Mum did that, but that's, why

we did it back then to save money.

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Whereas now you realise the

more beneficial part of that is,

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that, well, that's actually worth

saving the environment as well.

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Chryssius: Can you please tell

us about your best bargain brag?

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So that is something that you have

found secondhand, whether it be from

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a, secondhand market or an op-shop.

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Something that is either your

favourite, the craziest, the most

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out there, or just the best find.

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Of course, I love this.

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I think everyone's got

a good story about this.

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When I was on one of my buying trips

in Melbourne, I had a bit of time and

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I was just window shopping, while I

was waiting for my next appointment.

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And I came across this, shop and it

was on like a main street as well with

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all these other high-end businesses.

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And it wasn't an op-shop as such,

'cause they didn't take donations, but

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everything in that store was vintage,

it was secondhand, it was upcycled.

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I was in heaven.

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It was so, it was the most

amazing place I've ever found.

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And I bought a few things, but

this one particular item that stuck

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out to me was this long sleeve

velvet body suit, black body suit.

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It's gorgeous.

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And I just fell in love

with it straight away.

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And I thought, it's velvet like

that's, it's just such a classic piece.

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I was so excited to see it was my size.

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And everything else in this

store was fantastic as well.

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But this one particular

piece is it's become my fa.

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I wear it all the time when

I'm in the boutique as well.

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It's my favourite piece and I love

wearing it because I know that I've

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saved that ending up in landfill

somewhere 'cause someone was sick of it.

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Whereas I now get to love it all

over again and multiple times.

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If you would like to see

Ange's black velvet bodysuit...

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Sounds terrible when you say it

like that, "black velvet bodysuit".

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It looks awesome, I must say.

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I love it.

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Yeah...

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Yeah, so jump onto the Reloved

Radio Instagram highlights

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to have a look at that.

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Um, yeah, I didn't mean it

for it to come out like that.

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No, it's just when you said it back I

was like, oh, sounds very interesting.

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Oh, well, it might make

people go on and have a look.

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Can you tell everyone where people can

find you on social media and how they

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can go about hiring a dress from you?

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Of course I am on Instagram

under Lucida Dress Hire Ballarat.

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I have my physical store here in

Ballarat, which is on Armstrong

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Street South, I have open hours.

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You don't need to make appointments.

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You can come in at any stage,

but I also have the website.

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If you are from out of town, I

can post dresses to you wherever

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you live in Australia as well.

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Excellent.

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Thank you so much, Ange, it

has been so fun having you on.

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Yes, I know.

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It's been fantastic.

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Thank you for having me.

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I really appreciate it.

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Thank you so much.

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