Does growing your business ever get to a point where it feels a lot harder than you thought it would?

Have you noticed that what worked last year hasn’t been as fruitful for you this year?

Ever wonder why following someone else’s “successful” framework didn’t produce mind blowing results for you, too?

Press play because you’re going to hear the real, raw, in the moment truth from two friends who also happen to be business owners and have been with each other every step of the way.

This is a real conversation, not interview style with canned expert advice responses. You’ll find what you hear refreshing.

15:35 - a pivotal moment with a client that caused a change in business

23:15 - when structure no longer works because of group program growth

35:20 - who you should be targeting and the affluent client

45:30 - economic downturns provide opportunity

48:47 - 2023 business trends

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