What if the key to true healing wasn’t found in a prescription bottle, but within you?
In this powerful episode of Beyond the Pills, host Josh Rimany, pharmacist turned healer, sits down with his mentor, friend, and global thought leader Sachin Patel. Known as a pioneer in functional medicine, visionary founder of The Living Proof Institute, and author of Perfect Practice, Sachin has devoted his life to transforming healthcare by empowering both practitioners and patients to embrace a new model of healing.
But this conversation goes beyond medicine, beyond science, and beyond the pills. It dives into what it means to heal at the deepest levels; physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
From the moment Josh introduces Sachin, you can sense the weight of wisdom and the depth of his journey. He’s not just a clinician—he’s a father, husband, philanthropist, speaker, and plant medicine advocate. He’s a man who believes that healthcare is not about dependency, but about self-mastery, sovereignty, and empowerment.
This episode is filled with profound insights and practical wisdom:
“The doctor of the future is the patient themselves.” – Sachin Patel
If you’ve ever felt trapped in the endless cycle of prescriptions, appointments, and quick fixes that never truly heal the root of the problem—this episode will feel like a breath of fresh air.
Sachin Patel doesn’t just talk about what’s wrong with the system; he offers a clear, inspiring vision for what’s possible:
“Health is not something we outsource. It’s something we cultivate.” – Sachin Patel
This is more than a podcast—it’s an invitation to join a movement. A movement that is redefining medicine, reclaiming sovereignty, and returning the power of healing back where it belongs: within us.
You’ll walk away from this episode with a renewed sense of hope, a deeper understanding of your own potential, and a fire to embrace healthcare not as something done to you, but as something done by you and for you.
🎧 Don’t just listen, immerse yourself in this conversation and let it challenge the way you think about health, healing, and medicine.
👉 Here’s what you can do next:
Because the future of medicine isn’t found in more pills. It’s found in you.
“When people realize they are the solution, not the system, healing begins.”
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Welcome, welcome back to Beyond the Pills,
Speaker:where we meet soul and
Speaker:wisdom and ancient wisdom
Speaker:meets modern science for true healing.
Speaker:I am Josh Remini,
Speaker:pharmacist turned healer.
Speaker:Today's guest is not just a
Speaker:thought leader in functional medicine.
Speaker:He's way more than that to me, especially.
Speaker:He's a dear friend.
Speaker:He's one of my mentors and
Speaker:someone I deeply align with,
Speaker:especially on the mission
Speaker:of transforming healthcare.
Speaker:Sachin Patel, he's a father,
Speaker:he's a husband, a philanthropist,
Speaker:a functional medicine success coach,
Speaker:speaker, author, breathwork facilitator,
Speaker:and plant medicine advocate.
Speaker:He's founded the Living Proof Institute,
Speaker:pioneering a revolutionary
Speaker:patient-centered approach to healthcare.
Speaker:And through his perfect
Speaker:practice mentorship,
Speaker:Sachin has coached hundreds
Speaker:of practitioners, including me,
Speaker:empowering them to deliver affordable,
Speaker:inspired care to communities.
Speaker:He's also the author of
Speaker:Living Proof and The
Speaker:Perfect Practice as books,
Speaker:and the visionary behind
Speaker:the Metabolic Reset,
Speaker:which I think is now called
Speaker:the Living Light Program,
Speaker:which we're proud to use in
Speaker:our own practice.
Speaker:Sachin believes that the
Speaker:doctor of the future is the patient,
Speaker:and his life's work is
Speaker:dedicated and has been to
Speaker:helping people raise their consciousness,
Speaker:activate their inner doctor,
Speaker:and reclaim their deepest
Speaker:healing through lifestyle
Speaker:and breath work.
Speaker:We're gonna dive into a lot
Speaker:of that and more.
Speaker:I am so excited to share
Speaker:this conversation with one
Speaker:of my beautiful soul brothers.
Speaker:Welcome to the show Sachin.
Speaker:Josh, thank you.
Speaker:What an honor and divine
Speaker:timing that we're having
Speaker:this conversation.
Speaker:Thank you for your friendship.
Speaker:Thank you for all the work
Speaker:that you've done on yourself.
Speaker:It's been magical to witness
Speaker:your evolution and I'm so
Speaker:grateful for you and your friendship.
Speaker:And I'm really proud of you
Speaker:kind of really stepping
Speaker:into your higher self.
Speaker:It's beautiful to witness.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Starting with a gratitude.
Speaker:I can't even get any better than that.
Speaker:Um, let's dive in, you know,
Speaker:your mantra is the doctor
Speaker:of the future is the patient.
Speaker:It's one of them.
Speaker:I call them satchinisms.
Speaker:You probably got a book full of them now.
Speaker:Um,
Speaker:what does that really mean to you and
Speaker:how has it shaped your life's mission?
Speaker:Thank you for asking.
Speaker:You know, when,
Speaker:when we really think of the
Speaker:healthcare crisis that we have right now,
Speaker:we're really approaching it
Speaker:from the wrong angle.
Speaker:and very short-term thinking.
Speaker:So we're in a reactionary
Speaker:medical model where even
Speaker:insurance companies,
Speaker:you have to meet their
Speaker:sickness criteria to be
Speaker:considered sick enough to
Speaker:get the care that you need.
Speaker:And so for years,
Speaker:people kind of bounce
Speaker:around looking for answers
Speaker:and not getting any.
Speaker:And so that's not a system
Speaker:that I want to be part of.
Speaker:I don't want to be the
Speaker:eighth person somebody has
Speaker:seen and tell them
Speaker:something that they
Speaker:probably should have
Speaker:learned when they were two years old.
Speaker:Because what happens is when we position,
Speaker:when we think of the solution,
Speaker:the solution isn't more doctors,
Speaker:more hospitals, more pills,
Speaker:more supplements,
Speaker:more functional medicine practitioners,
Speaker:more holistic practitioners.
Speaker:That's not the solution any
Speaker:of us actually wants.
Speaker:I never want my son to go to
Speaker:have to see the most holistic,
Speaker:natural healer.
Speaker:I want him to never have to
Speaker:see that person in the first place.
Speaker:because he knows how to
Speaker:unlock his own healing capabilities.
Speaker:And that doesn't mean we'll
Speaker:never need other people to
Speaker:help us and support us and
Speaker:friends and communities
Speaker:that are part of our medicine.
Speaker:But what I've discovered
Speaker:through many journeys,
Speaker:through the healthcare system,
Speaker:through coaching practitioners,
Speaker:through the education system,
Speaker:through plant medicine,
Speaker:is that the ultimate medicine is us.
Speaker:Like we are the ultimate elixir of life.
Speaker:And the problem is we're not
Speaker:teaching people what
Speaker:ingredients are required to
Speaker:create that formulation, that recipe.
Speaker:And so even when we look at
Speaker:our healthcare system,
Speaker:it's waiting way too long,
Speaker:which means that it takes thirty, forty,
Speaker:fifty years to destroy somebody's health.
Speaker:It doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker:And now maybe a decade or two,
Speaker:you're seeing really young
Speaker:children being sick.
Speaker:Our bodies are so resilient.
Speaker:It takes thirty, forty,
Speaker:fifty years to destroy our heart,
Speaker:for example.
Speaker:And I can only imagine what
Speaker:that person's quality of
Speaker:life would be like if they
Speaker:had known how to take
Speaker:better care of themselves.
Speaker:and lived closer to who they really are.
Speaker:And that's the ultimate
Speaker:medicine of life is to
Speaker:become who we truly are.
Speaker:And when people are going
Speaker:through their life for the forty,
Speaker:fifty years, not knowing how to eat,
Speaker:not knowing how to breathe,
Speaker:not knowing what type of
Speaker:exposure to sunlight they should have,
Speaker:not knowing the healing power of nature,
Speaker:not knowing the simplest
Speaker:things that activate their own medicine.
Speaker:To me, that's criminal.
Speaker:And so if we could teach
Speaker:people how to be their own
Speaker:doctors and teach them how
Speaker:to be self-aware,
Speaker:there are literally
Speaker:thousands and thousands of
Speaker:healing opportunities in
Speaker:every single day to shift
Speaker:our health in the right direction.
Speaker:So, you know, so many things in our lives,
Speaker:every decision in our life
Speaker:is a fork in the road.
Speaker:Every breath is a fork in
Speaker:the road to determine how
Speaker:we want to feel and how we
Speaker:want to function.
Speaker:So we have literally
Speaker:thousands of opportunities
Speaker:every day to refine and
Speaker:fine tune our health.
Speaker:We just have to know what
Speaker:those inputs are.
Speaker:So a big example here would be, you know,
Speaker:what is our relationship
Speaker:with the indoors versus the outdoors?
Speaker:And by knowing the
Speaker:difference that being
Speaker:outdoors versus indoors
Speaker:makes can be a massive
Speaker:elevation in our quality of function,
Speaker:but very passive at the same time.
Speaker:So I know you try to spend
Speaker:as much time outdoors as possible.
Speaker:I try to spend as much time
Speaker:outdoors as possible.
Speaker:And so we're bathing in our own medicine.
Speaker:The sun is activating our
Speaker:own medicine for hours and
Speaker:hours every day versus
Speaker:somebody who doesn't have that awareness.
Speaker:So there's so much healing
Speaker:potential that all of us possess.
Speaker:And I believe that because
Speaker:of our lifestyles and our environments,
Speaker:most of our DNA is dormant.
Speaker:So we don't even truly know
Speaker:who we are because we don't
Speaker:even fully activate our
Speaker:inner blueprint and our potential.
Speaker:So that's the world I want to live in.
Speaker:I want to live in a world
Speaker:where the age of infirmary,
Speaker:timeline of infirmary is very short.
Speaker:I want to live in a world
Speaker:where people are healthy, happy,
Speaker:and closer to their fullest
Speaker:potential because that's
Speaker:just the world that I think
Speaker:needs to exist right now.
Speaker:such a beautiful way to open
Speaker:these conversation I was
Speaker:literally having a I was
Speaker:reading something about how
Speaker:we call it junk dna and
Speaker:it's all this dna that they
Speaker:don't know anything about
Speaker:it's not activated it's
Speaker:there is no junk dna it's
Speaker:all for purpose but we just
Speaker:haven't figured it out yet
Speaker:you're right like there's
Speaker:so many activations that
Speaker:can be happening you've
Speaker:taught me or at least
Speaker:reminded me because we're
Speaker:always on that same level I
Speaker:feel like every time I'm
Speaker:thinking of something you're on the
Speaker:internet and you're talking
Speaker:about at the same time like
Speaker:I just thought that it's so
Speaker:fun because we're connected
Speaker:in that quantum world right
Speaker:but what you're talking
Speaker:about is these timeless
Speaker:practices right to unlock
Speaker:not just body health and
Speaker:mind health but spiritual
Speaker:or energetic health like
Speaker:you talk the blueprint
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Changing that blueprint for
Speaker:for my shamanic energy work.
Speaker:Like that's what they say in
Speaker:the shamanic world is like
Speaker:you don't have to when you
Speaker:want to like fix something
Speaker:in your body or let's just
Speaker:make the analogy of, you know,
Speaker:if you want to add a room to your house.
Speaker:You can build bulldoze
Speaker:everything by all the ingredients,
Speaker:build it all the way up.
Speaker:But if you change the
Speaker:energetics of the body and
Speaker:you change the blueprint of the house,
Speaker:the room already appears.
Speaker:And I think that's kind of
Speaker:the analogy I've been using
Speaker:a lot is if we're looking upstream,
Speaker:because that's kind of how
Speaker:functional is downstream, upstream health,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:But if we're all if we're
Speaker:acting in these spaces that
Speaker:are there underneath all of that,
Speaker:like you talked about breathwork,
Speaker:being out in nature, all these simple,
Speaker:timeless things where blue
Speaker:zones have been doing them forever.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And now we're talking about
Speaker:blue zones losing their
Speaker:blue zone activity because
Speaker:of Kentucky fried chicken
Speaker:in the middle of Nicoya
Speaker:Peninsula in Costa Rica.
Speaker:So we've forgotten the
Speaker:things that have gotten us
Speaker:so much vibrant health.
Speaker:And I think that's what I
Speaker:appreciate about you.
Speaker:And what I've learned so
Speaker:much is these timeless,
Speaker:simple things that are low
Speaker:cost or no cost really are
Speaker:the drivers of health.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:Da Vinci said it best.
Speaker:Steve Jobs echoed it.
Speaker:And I know you and I are
Speaker:trying to carry that torch
Speaker:and flame forward.
Speaker:And that is that simplicity
Speaker:is the ultimate sophistication.
Speaker:And so if we kind of flip that,
Speaker:we ask ourselves,
Speaker:what's the most
Speaker:sophisticated system that we know of?
Speaker:I would like to think it's the human body.
Speaker:And by that kind of context,
Speaker:it should be super simple, right?
Speaker:If our bodies were
Speaker:challenging and difficult
Speaker:and impossible to take care of,
Speaker:that immediately eliminates
Speaker:them from being sophisticated.
Speaker:So once you start looking at
Speaker:life through that lens,
Speaker:you start realizing that
Speaker:the inputs should be either
Speaker:passive or embarrassingly simple.
Speaker:So people who live in blue
Speaker:zones didn't even,
Speaker:they weren't trying to live to a hundred,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:They were just living in
Speaker:closer congruence to what
Speaker:our biological blueprint requires, right?
Speaker:We are, for example,
Speaker:we are outdoor plants planted indoors,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And so try planting an
Speaker:outdoor plant indoors and
Speaker:tell me what happens to it.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:You're going to think it's the soil.
Speaker:You're going to think it's the pot.
Speaker:You're going to think it's the nutrients,
Speaker:but it's just not getting enough sun.
Speaker:It's just it.
Speaker:It is right.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:It's not in congruence with
Speaker:the reality of what it's supposed to be.
Speaker:Right,
Speaker:so now imagine having the scientific
Speaker:awareness that we have now
Speaker:and applying it, right?
Speaker:So they live to a hundred by accident,
Speaker:but we can live to a
Speaker:hundred and twenty with intention.
Speaker:And it's by doing the timeless things,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:I believe that we're born
Speaker:across multiple timelines.
Speaker:So if I'm gonna acquire any
Speaker:skill to take with me
Speaker:through those multiple
Speaker:rebirths and timelines,
Speaker:then it's gonna be how to
Speaker:take care of myself.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so activating that
Speaker:blueprint becomes my top priority in life,
Speaker:because if if I want to be, you know,
Speaker:if I have six out of if
Speaker:somebody has six out of ten health,
Speaker:they can't be an eight out of ten dad.
Speaker:They can't run a nine out of ten business.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Our health sets the ceiling
Speaker:for what our capability and
Speaker:capacity is to, you know,
Speaker:to deliver our fullest
Speaker:potential to the world.
Speaker:And so embarrassingly simple things.
Speaker:So we start asking ourselves, you know,
Speaker:that chipmunk, it doesn't think about,
Speaker:you know, getting morning sunlight.
Speaker:It doesn't think about grounding.
Speaker:It doesn't think about, you know,
Speaker:finding shelter and safety
Speaker:and staying in that space.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And being present in each
Speaker:moment because it only has the present.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So we can learn a lot just
Speaker:by observing a chipmunk.
Speaker:That doesn't develop the
Speaker:diseases that humanity does, right?
Speaker:Until we take them and put
Speaker:them into captivity.
Speaker:We are wild animals in captivity.
Speaker:There's so much of us that
Speaker:remains to be unlocked.
Speaker:And I spent a lot of time outdoors.
Speaker:So in August,
Speaker:I spent a total of seven days
Speaker:completely outdoors.
Speaker:No screens, no nothing.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:You're activating features
Speaker:in your body that you
Speaker:didn't know you had.
Speaker:You're pressing buttons to
Speaker:express genes that you
Speaker:didn't even know existed.
Speaker:And you come back and your
Speaker:face looks different.
Speaker:You look at the world differently.
Speaker:People see you differently.
Speaker:Your energetic aura changes.
Speaker:And so it's simple things.
Speaker:And usually they're immersive.
Speaker:So if we just go back to
Speaker:remembering who we are,
Speaker:we're outdoor plants, wild animals,
Speaker:indoors in captivity.
Speaker:That should paint the
Speaker:contrast for people to realize, oh,
Speaker:if I spend more time outdoors,
Speaker:if I connect my feet to the earth,
Speaker:if I slow down my breath,
Speaker:if I spend the right time
Speaker:of day outdoors at
Speaker:different times of the day,
Speaker:I can rewire or reset all
Speaker:the clocks in my body.
Speaker:Embarrassingly simple things
Speaker:to do that are also
Speaker:embarrassingly simple not to do,
Speaker:which is the paradox of
Speaker:this whole journey of
Speaker:health that people go on.
Speaker:yeah and there's so much to
Speaker:dive into on that because
Speaker:it's just all just it's
Speaker:beautiful wisdom you know
Speaker:when we're talking about these things
Speaker:it's we are it's like the
Speaker:the the opposite of the
Speaker:placebo effect right we're
Speaker:unlocking the body's innate
Speaker:ability like you said our
Speaker:bodies are the most complex
Speaker:organisms on the entire
Speaker:planet right we don't know
Speaker:about the universe but in
Speaker:the planet right and we
Speaker:still only use five to ten
Speaker:percent of this brain of
Speaker:ours however we're
Speaker:unlocking these things
Speaker:through the technologies
Speaker:and the things that we're learning
Speaker:to, like you said, with intention,
Speaker:we could live to a hundred and twenty.
Speaker:We'll talk about your
Speaker:biological age and my
Speaker:biological age versus
Speaker:chronological later.
Speaker:But I want us, these things are simple,
Speaker:but sometimes not easy, right?
Speaker:Like you said, things get in the way.
Speaker:Somebody says they don't
Speaker:have time for that.
Speaker:And what I've learned
Speaker:through you and through this process,
Speaker:especially when you take
Speaker:practitioners through this,
Speaker:is when you're in this space
Speaker:of becoming your own doctor,
Speaker:unlocking the pharmacist or
Speaker:the pharmacy within you
Speaker:with these chemicals that
Speaker:already can happen and be
Speaker:already managed through
Speaker:thought and through all these other ways,
Speaker:we're seeing the science of that.
Speaker:But now,
Speaker:I always have this do you first
Speaker:principle.
Speaker:And I think your book is living proof,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:You're living proof of who
Speaker:you are and what you do.
Speaker:And I think one thing I
Speaker:admire most about you is
Speaker:you do practice what you
Speaker:preach in a very high percent.
Speaker:Like almost,
Speaker:I don't know anyone else in
Speaker:the universe to date that
Speaker:when they say they do something,
Speaker:it's done.
Speaker:So-
Speaker:I love you, brother.
Speaker:But I want to talk about
Speaker:this because I teach
Speaker:pharmacists nationwide and
Speaker:they think they're selling wellness,
Speaker:but they're not being wellness.
Speaker:And I know this is a hurdle,
Speaker:but I believe you don't
Speaker:become a healer or in wellness if
Speaker:because it's just your vocation,
Speaker:your profession.
Speaker:It's like part of who you are.
Speaker:I want you to speak to that
Speaker:because I've learned a lot
Speaker:with that and through you,
Speaker:but there's an essence to
Speaker:that that I think we need
Speaker:to explore and unpack a little.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:So I'm going to talk about plant medicine,
Speaker:specifically ayahuasca, if I may.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:We both have that connection as well.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, it's it's profound medicine and,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it's your time when you're called to it.
Speaker:So this isn't like I'm not
Speaker:trying to pitch it to anyone.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:I resisted ayahuasca for many
Speaker:years because I knew it was
Speaker:in my timeline.
Speaker:I just didn't know when.
Speaker:And when I got the call,
Speaker:it was actually a funny
Speaker:I'll share this funny story
Speaker:because it's memorable.
Speaker:I was sitting with a buddy
Speaker:of mine and he's like, dude,
Speaker:we got to go.
Speaker:We got to go.
Speaker:And, um, I was able to,
Speaker:to go to arrhythmia works out.
Speaker:It was on my birthday,
Speaker:my forty seventh birthday.
Speaker:And when I went in the journey,
Speaker:like one of the lessons
Speaker:that came back for me was
Speaker:to remember who we are.
Speaker:So what happens in life is when we're born,
Speaker:we're naked.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And we're not a blank slate.
Speaker:We're a clean slate.
Speaker:So we're born without even
Speaker:the awareness of who we are.
Speaker:When a baby sees its own hand,
Speaker:it can barely see it, first of all.
Speaker:It doesn't even recognize
Speaker:that that's its hand.
Speaker:It doesn't have the
Speaker:awareness because it's
Speaker:everything and nothing at the same time.
Speaker:And so when we go back to that state,
Speaker:which medicine can take us to,
Speaker:breathwork can take us to,
Speaker:what I see is we're all
Speaker:these golden statues.
Speaker:and just pure gold, pure light,
Speaker:pure bliss.
Speaker:And we come into this world
Speaker:and then we're labeled, right?
Speaker:We get a name.
Speaker:We get, oh, Josh is so kind.
Speaker:Josh is so this.
Speaker:Josh is gonna be this when he grows up.
Speaker:Josh is gonna be like that.
Speaker:Josh isn't like this, right?
Speaker:So we start putting on these
Speaker:layers and layers and layers
Speaker:And some of those layers are
Speaker:pretty close to the chest.
Speaker:And some of them are built out.
Speaker:So we're wearing like a
Speaker:hundred shirts at the same
Speaker:time and walking through
Speaker:life thinking we know who we are.
Speaker:But we can't see through
Speaker:those fifty shirts who we
Speaker:are when we look in the mirror.
Speaker:We just see all those layers
Speaker:and all those stories.
Speaker:So when we can take people
Speaker:back to that zero set point
Speaker:it allows us to truly
Speaker:remember who we are and why we're here.
Speaker:And some people will
Speaker:recognize this either at
Speaker:some point before they die,
Speaker:or perhaps when they die.
Speaker:Because from what I understand,
Speaker:it's almost like a death experience.
Speaker:So when I did my journey, I actually
Speaker:buried uh I had a little
Speaker:funeral for myself right
Speaker:and I put my shirt on my
Speaker:mattress and I said okay
Speaker:this is the old me right
Speaker:we're celebrating that life
Speaker:and now with the awareness
Speaker:with the lessons with the
Speaker:consciousness with the
Speaker:physical body with the
Speaker:mental capacity with the
Speaker:network with the community
Speaker:with my friends now I get
Speaker:to build a whole new life
Speaker:with this awareness
Speaker:And so when we can get to that point,
Speaker:then what we realize is
Speaker:that the only way to light
Speaker:the fire in others
Speaker:efficiently is to light it
Speaker:in ourselves first.
Speaker:And so if I were to, you know,
Speaker:I go camping, I know you go camping.
Speaker:When you go camping,
Speaker:it's easy if you have a lighter.
Speaker:But if you have to start a
Speaker:fire from scratch,
Speaker:it's a lot more difficult.
Speaker:It's very challenging.
Speaker:So it's going to be hard for
Speaker:us to light somebody else's
Speaker:fire unless we have that
Speaker:fire inside of us.
Speaker:And so part of lighting that
Speaker:fire is first understanding who we are.
Speaker:And most people have either
Speaker:forgotten or have never
Speaker:known who they are.
Speaker:And so if they can do
Speaker:something that gets them to that point,
Speaker:It's completely
Speaker:life-changing and
Speaker:transformational for people.
Speaker:And again, you'll know when you're called.
Speaker:For me, so my buddy was telling me,
Speaker:we got to go, we got to go.
Speaker:I said, I'm not feeling called.
Speaker:I'm not feeling called.
Speaker:That same day,
Speaker:RFK released a video about
Speaker:plant medicine.
Speaker:And I was at the event that
Speaker:he was speaking at.
Speaker:And there was only one shot
Speaker:that they took of the audience.
Speaker:And it's about four and a
Speaker:half minutes in the video.
Speaker:And it was a picture of me at my table.
Speaker:So I knew I was called.
Speaker:The next time I was going
Speaker:was the weekend of my birthday.
Speaker:So this year when I turned forty seven,
Speaker:I was like literally reborn.
Speaker:And it's like you're learning how to walk,
Speaker:like crawl and walk and all
Speaker:of those things,
Speaker:but in a different
Speaker:dimension in this same lifetime.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you've got the physical capacity,
Speaker:you've developed all those things,
Speaker:but now you're learning how
Speaker:to walk with the awareness
Speaker:that you have now.
Speaker:So I feel like that's, you know,
Speaker:if I could pass anything along,
Speaker:it would be that.
Speaker:It's so much easier to light
Speaker:somebody else's fire if
Speaker:you've got that fire
Speaker:already lit inside of you.
Speaker:It's like a candle lighting
Speaker:another candle.
Speaker:Well, it's the same adage of like,
Speaker:be the change you want to see changed,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And that is the walk the
Speaker:walk in a deeper level, you know,
Speaker:and you said before is like,
Speaker:When I did my twenty one
Speaker:days in Peru and I sat with
Speaker:the healers and I did my
Speaker:own integration and walked
Speaker:the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu,
Speaker:I was with myself the whole time.
Speaker:No phones, no, not just me,
Speaker:like doing all those nature
Speaker:things we talked about,
Speaker:but really going deep after
Speaker:my journeys into that space and.
Speaker:when I came back, it was the same thing.
Speaker:I literally had people going,
Speaker:you look different.
Speaker:Like not, you know, like, oh,
Speaker:you look like something about you.
Speaker:Your hair is different.
Speaker:No, it was like, they were like,
Speaker:what my wife was saying, like,
Speaker:what is wrong with Josh?
Speaker:He looks so amazing.
Speaker:He's glowing.
Speaker:Like everyone was saying I'm
Speaker:glowing because that was it.
Speaker:It was this rebirth.
Speaker:But in a, but in a way where it was like,
Speaker:it's a, it's kind of a defrag,
Speaker:but like in a way that was,
Speaker:natural right it was
Speaker:challenging you know it
Speaker:it's like it's not this
Speaker:puppy dog and ice cream
Speaker:thing it was it was pretty
Speaker:challenging but one of the
Speaker:most challenging things
Speaker:I've gone through and I've
Speaker:gone through cancer as a
Speaker:kid so it was one of those
Speaker:things where because I had
Speaker:put those masks on all
Speaker:those layers had been
Speaker:accumulated and like you
Speaker:said in consciousness it's
Speaker:like the first question is
Speaker:who am I and the first
Speaker:thing people say is
Speaker:Well, I'm a pharmacist.
Speaker:I went to school.
Speaker:I have two kids.
Speaker:Like all those labelings
Speaker:doesn't really get to the
Speaker:essence of your being.
Speaker:And I think that's what you
Speaker:so eloquently talked about
Speaker:because that's wholeness.
Speaker:That's authenticity.
Speaker:That's purpose.
Speaker:I have a really good
Speaker:download and I want to say it.
Speaker:Who you truly are is all the
Speaker:things you can't take with you.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I can't take my wife with me,
Speaker:can't take my son with me,
Speaker:can't take my car with me,
Speaker:can't take my work with me,
Speaker:can't take my degrees with me.
Speaker:When I am naked, right, of this body,
Speaker:that's who I am.
Speaker:And so it's all the things
Speaker:you can't take with you.
Speaker:That's who you are.
Speaker:And that makes it really easy.
Speaker:I call this whole print, right?
Speaker:It's like who you are.
Speaker:And yes,
Speaker:I believe we're in a
Speaker:multidimensional timeline here.
Speaker:So yes, I love that.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:why not teach myself what I can
Speaker:bring to the next life
Speaker:about how I can take care of myself?
Speaker:Because I don't have to
Speaker:repeat that ancestral trauma or patterns.
Speaker:Because we're bringing this
Speaker:out how many generations behind us,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:I'm a big believer of
Speaker:breaking ancestral traumas
Speaker:and challenges as you are.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:one of the greatest ancestral
Speaker:traumas is imprinting what
Speaker:an unhealthy lifestyle
Speaker:looks like to a child.
Speaker:Because we normalize not
Speaker:doing the right things.
Speaker:And it could be ignorance.
Speaker:There's certain things I
Speaker:wish I knew when I thought
Speaker:I was doing my best.
Speaker:There are certain things I
Speaker:wish I knew then that I know now.
Speaker:So it's not about pointing
Speaker:fingers without first
Speaker:pointing them at myself.
Speaker:So I think it's important
Speaker:for us to kind of recognize that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:and that discovery of who we are
Speaker:is the greatest gift that
Speaker:we can give to the people
Speaker:around us and future generations.
Speaker:Because our children don't
Speaker:listen to what we tell them, right?
Speaker:They pay attention to what we show them.
Speaker:And so the fastest way to
Speaker:change the health of the
Speaker:next generation is to start
Speaker:with ourselves.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And then model that.
Speaker:I love working with families
Speaker:who have young children
Speaker:because we can model it to
Speaker:them and then it becomes
Speaker:their way of life.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:As opposed to, you know,
Speaker:modeling the wrong thing
Speaker:because we lack the
Speaker:knowledge or the awareness
Speaker:or the discipline,
Speaker:whatever the case may be.
Speaker:And then impregnating that that's OK.
Speaker:So we can change all the
Speaker:future generations.
Speaker:We have an obligation, right?
Speaker:I, you know, I tell myself, you know,
Speaker:the work,
Speaker:the question that I ask myself
Speaker:is when I'm making a
Speaker:decision is would my future
Speaker:generations be grateful and
Speaker:would my past generations be proud?
Speaker:And so it becomes really
Speaker:easy to make decisions when
Speaker:you look at every single
Speaker:decision in life that way.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So you're talking about discipline.
Speaker:You're talking about and I'm not perfect.
Speaker:I don't pretend to be.
Speaker:I don't expect anyone else to be.
Speaker:But you are probably right that I am very,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I'm probably like ninety eight percent.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:but because I understand
Speaker:what I'm going for, right.
Speaker:What my objective is.
Speaker:And, you know, I want to light a fire,
Speaker:not just a candle inside of
Speaker:me so that I can light as
Speaker:many fires and other people as possible.
Speaker:Well, I think you have, I, um,
Speaker:there's not many people
Speaker:that I have conversations
Speaker:with on a regular basis
Speaker:where I know future
Speaker:generations will appreciate
Speaker:that legacy and you're
Speaker:definitely one of them.
Speaker:So, um,
Speaker:Let's talk about your books.
Speaker:I got them here.
Speaker:Here's the recent one.
Speaker:Here's the one I read many
Speaker:moons ago and how I got attached to you.
Speaker:I think this is an OG version too.
Speaker:It is, a collector's edition.
Speaker:It might have even been,
Speaker:it's not signed by you,
Speaker:but I know where to find you now.
Speaker:Let's talk about perfect
Speaker:practice a little bit
Speaker:because this world is changing and
Speaker:healthcare is changing.
Speaker:The systems are crumbling right now.
Speaker:Whether you talk pharmacy, healthcare,
Speaker:you're in Canada, I'm in, you know,
Speaker:in the United States,
Speaker:the bridge builders are now
Speaker:here bridging this new systems.
Speaker:And I think,
Speaker:and you're high D high I high visionary,
Speaker:like we're very similar people,
Speaker:but you saw this long time ago,
Speaker:but you knew what the stop
Speaker:gaps were because you,
Speaker:Doctors, pharmacists, chiros,
Speaker:wellness practitioners,
Speaker:most of them are really
Speaker:crappy business people.
Speaker:They don't know how to
Speaker:actually do the things they want to do.
Speaker:They just want to help people, right?
Speaker:But there's a science behind that.
Speaker:And I think what I learned
Speaker:the most from the beginning
Speaker:from you is how do I attract clients?
Speaker:How do I run a business from
Speaker:the perspective?
Speaker:I already ran a pharmacy.
Speaker:That's not terribly difficult,
Speaker:comparable to...
Speaker:what you were teaching which
Speaker:is you know moving a
Speaker:seven-figure business in a
Speaker:healthcare system that's
Speaker:completely paid for on a
Speaker:cash model like you broke
Speaker:the system from a
Speaker:standpoint of you saw what
Speaker:you needed but what I love
Speaker:about you sachin is you
Speaker:also know how to get to the
Speaker:pieces to get there and
Speaker:that's generally what I
Speaker:thought perfect practice
Speaker:helped me with so much was
Speaker:you had a template a
Speaker:blueprint for success so
Speaker:talk to people a little bit
Speaker:about what you do for
Speaker:let's call them practitioners.
Speaker:I don't really like that name much more.
Speaker:These guides that you have that are,
Speaker:you know, they're doctors,
Speaker:they're pharmacists,
Speaker:they're health coaches.
Speaker:You're teaching them a system, right?
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:thank you for the opportunity to
Speaker:share about this because
Speaker:it's what's kind of alive
Speaker:for me right now, or really are alive,
Speaker:not kind of alive.
Speaker:It's really alive in me
Speaker:right now because what I've
Speaker:learned over the years is
Speaker:there's a few things that
Speaker:hold this entire profession back,
Speaker:and it's not clinical outcomes.
Speaker:That's what everyone's
Speaker:chomping at the bit about
Speaker:is they're trying to prove
Speaker:themselves from a clinical standpoint.
Speaker:I've already accepted that,
Speaker:that I can produce superior
Speaker:results compared to a
Speaker:multi-trillion dollar
Speaker:system in a fraction of the
Speaker:time for a millionth of the cost.
Speaker:I already know that.
Speaker:Now what I need to know is
Speaker:how to get other people to
Speaker:be educated and understand
Speaker:that there's something out
Speaker:there that can actually help them.
Speaker:And the irony in it all is
Speaker:that it's actually them, right?
Speaker:Like that's the ultimate irony is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we have people looking all over
Speaker:the place for answers when
Speaker:they are the answer.
Speaker:And it's just how the universe works,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Where else would you expect it to be?
Speaker:Like everywhere else but you, right?
Speaker:The answer is you.
Speaker:And so now we just have to
Speaker:get people to understand that.
Speaker:And so we've been proving it
Speaker:literally over and over and
Speaker:over again that we have a
Speaker:framework that can help
Speaker:people heal exceptionally quick.
Speaker:So at first,
Speaker:I used to teach practitioners
Speaker:how to build their practices.
Speaker:And then we would share the
Speaker:resources and white label
Speaker:the resources that we have for them.
Speaker:And now what I realized is
Speaker:that we're all kind of
Speaker:putting the same message out there,
Speaker:but through a hundred
Speaker:different businesses or
Speaker:five hundred different businesses.
Speaker:What if we could have a
Speaker:unifying program that is proven to work,
Speaker:literally,
Speaker:one hundred percent money back
Speaker:guaranteed to work,
Speaker:which no other program I
Speaker:know gives you in the health care space,
Speaker:collects more data than
Speaker:most other programs that
Speaker:are out there at a fraction of the cost.
Speaker:I get excited to be able to
Speaker:license what we do to
Speaker:practitioners and
Speaker:centralize all of their pain points,
Speaker:centralize printing
Speaker:materials and shipping them
Speaker:to their clients,
Speaker:centralize inventory
Speaker:management and having to
Speaker:manage all the kits to
Speaker:deliver the program.
Speaker:We have taken care of all of
Speaker:those things and basically
Speaker:lubricated the slide in
Speaker:such a way that a
Speaker:practitioner can start
Speaker:implementing this program
Speaker:within thirty days or they don't pay.
Speaker:That's our guarantee.
Speaker:So if we don't implement
Speaker:this and get them up and
Speaker:running in thirty days,
Speaker:it doesn't cost them anything.
Speaker:So we've basically taken and
Speaker:created the most efficient
Speaker:way to get a proven program
Speaker:which has literally
Speaker:hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker:testimonials and thousands
Speaker:of clients using it.
Speaker:We have all of that at our
Speaker:disposal for practitioners.
Speaker:So instead of them having to
Speaker:build their whole business
Speaker:model and build all the
Speaker:assets and build all the
Speaker:sales pages and build all
Speaker:the funnels and build all
Speaker:the marketing materials,
Speaker:we've completely
Speaker:centralized that process
Speaker:and now we call that living light.
Speaker:So we're taking what we've
Speaker:already proven to work
Speaker:clinically and then we're
Speaker:offering that to our
Speaker:clinicians so that they can implement it.
Speaker:They don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Speaker:and it's it's it's the do it
Speaker:for you approach right it's
Speaker:this place because a lot of
Speaker:wellness practitioners it's
Speaker:like they we moonlight
Speaker:until we can get to a place
Speaker:like oh I work in the er
Speaker:but I'm really into this
Speaker:but I'm this is paying my
Speaker:paycheck I've had so many
Speaker:conversations with providers that are so
Speaker:They're so ingrained because
Speaker:they and one hundred
Speaker:percent of people that work
Speaker:in the spaces that we work now,
Speaker:which I call healing and transformation,
Speaker:have had a personal experience with it,
Speaker:whether it's themselves or
Speaker:someone very close to them
Speaker:that's guided them into
Speaker:helping other people.
Speaker:And the problem,
Speaker:because this is the
Speaker:beautiful entrepreneur in you,
Speaker:is like solving all the pain points.
Speaker:Like, I don't know how to do funnel.
Speaker:I don't know how to track customers.
Speaker:I don't even know how to do this.
Speaker:It's like, oh, I've done it so long,
Speaker:so much.
Speaker:Let's just do it once.
Speaker:And let's let's repeat this down the line.
Speaker:And it's very it's very efficient, too,
Speaker:because we only share what works.
Speaker:So there there is very
Speaker:little trial and error for
Speaker:the practitioner.
Speaker:And that also means that if
Speaker:they're using similar copy
Speaker:and ads and marketing
Speaker:materials to what we're
Speaker:using and what we're sharing with them,
Speaker:then they're only getting
Speaker:strategies that actually work.
Speaker:Because one of the
Speaker:frustrating things about
Speaker:running your own program or
Speaker:building your own program is A,
Speaker:building your own program.
Speaker:But B, how do you know it's gonna work?
Speaker:And then how long is it
Speaker:gonna take you to create
Speaker:substantial data to
Speaker:demonstrate that it works,
Speaker:to get the case studies,
Speaker:to get the video testimonials?
Speaker:If practitioners are using our system,
Speaker:or clinicians,
Speaker:however we're gonna refer to them,
Speaker:are using our system,
Speaker:then they already have all of that.
Speaker:They already have all the case studies.
Speaker:They already have all the testimonials.
Speaker:And we'll get theirs and
Speaker:we'll even record the ones
Speaker:that they send us of their
Speaker:clients so they can use those as well.
Speaker:So we have so many different
Speaker:ways that we've eliminated
Speaker:the friction points for practitioners.
Speaker:No inventory.
Speaker:No,
Speaker:you actually don't even have to create
Speaker:any of the video modules
Speaker:because we've created them
Speaker:without our faces and the
Speaker:branding is all living light.
Speaker:So it has nothing to do with me.
Speaker:My name or my wife's name is
Speaker:not even mentioned in there anywhere.
Speaker:So you get these assets
Speaker:immediately deployed for
Speaker:you and you have a fully baked cake,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Not just a countertop with
Speaker:all the ingredients on it,
Speaker:never having built a cake
Speaker:before or baked a cake before.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:I think it's important for the
Speaker:practitioners listening and
Speaker:wanting to implement programming.
Speaker:And it's great for so many
Speaker:different places.
Speaker:I'm thinking it's not only
Speaker:pharmacists that I teach.
Speaker:We teach this program.
Speaker:I send them straight to you.
Speaker:It's not something.
Speaker:But the gift that you have
Speaker:is you have given so much
Speaker:of this information out to
Speaker:people and clinicians.
Speaker:You are beyond a go-giver.
Speaker:The gift of this is when
Speaker:people are listening, this is like, no,
Speaker:it's this collective
Speaker:experience that you're
Speaker:sharing all this wisdom and
Speaker:information and you've done
Speaker:all the hard work.
Speaker:You've failed, you've tried, you've failed,
Speaker:you've perfected.
Speaker:And all of a sudden it's like,
Speaker:this is polished and it's
Speaker:implementable quickly.
Speaker:But that gift keeps giving
Speaker:because now we're in this
Speaker:collective modality where
Speaker:everybody's doing the same thing,
Speaker:which is creating that
Speaker:flywheel effect of once we
Speaker:get certain amount of
Speaker:percentage of clinicians
Speaker:and people moving through it,
Speaker:it's not like there's one
Speaker:answer because within this program,
Speaker:you find your groove,
Speaker:you find the things that work,
Speaker:but there's time tested
Speaker:stuff within the modules
Speaker:that are happening.
Speaker:I don't know if this is the
Speaker:right place and maybe you
Speaker:have some more comments on that,
Speaker:but I think people are asking, you know,
Speaker:the question I always ask is, well,
Speaker:what is the program?
Speaker:What are we doing?
Speaker:Like, is there, what about, you know,
Speaker:I just want to say it like,
Speaker:what about GLP ones and all
Speaker:these things is like,
Speaker:we're talking about
Speaker:metabolic reset and living light,
Speaker:but it's a mind body thing.
Speaker:It's not just a body thing.
Speaker:And,
Speaker:There's a lot to talk about,
Speaker:but we haven't talked about
Speaker:it yet on this podcast
Speaker:because we've got to talk
Speaker:GLP-I's because they're so
Speaker:hot and everybody thinks
Speaker:they want them and yada yada.
Speaker:Yeah, I think it's like most things.
Speaker:Everyone thinks they want
Speaker:them until they don't want them anymore.
Speaker:And I feel like there's some
Speaker:amazing advances in medicine, right?
Speaker:It's pretty cool when you think about it,
Speaker:what we can do,
Speaker:how many lives have been saved,
Speaker:how many lives have been
Speaker:improved or extended in a meaningful way.
Speaker:Of course,
Speaker:I don't think that it helps us
Speaker:live to our fullest
Speaker:potential necessarily.
Speaker:And, you know, when it comes to GLP-I,
Speaker:everyone's going to respond
Speaker:to them a little bit differently.
Speaker:Some people genetically are
Speaker:going to respond to them differently.
Speaker:Some people metabolically
Speaker:are going to respond to them differently.
Speaker:And I think that's a great
Speaker:conversation for somebody
Speaker:to have with their practitioner who, A,
Speaker:has presented both options.
Speaker:Now, I find it really funny.
Speaker:Well, it's interesting, right?
Speaker:You know, I'm not here to
Speaker:bash anyone or anything that
Speaker:they're doing because I
Speaker:don't know their whole story, right?
Speaker:And it takes that individual
Speaker:conversation to know what's best for you.
Speaker:What I will say is there's
Speaker:seven thousand peptides your body makes.
Speaker:So if we want to do a
Speaker:peptide for every ill type
Speaker:of approach to health care,
Speaker:peptides aren't cheap.
Speaker:Last time I checked.
Speaker:No, especially not in this country.
Speaker:We spend ninety percent more
Speaker:on what it costs them to
Speaker:make it and charge their
Speaker:own their own country.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And that's one peptide.
Speaker:And I understand there's a cascade effect.
Speaker:I totally get that.
Speaker:I did a GLP-I interview with
Speaker:Dr. Jeffrey Bland,
Speaker:which I think everyone should watch.
Speaker:And maybe I can share that link with you.
Speaker:One of the things that he
Speaker:said that was really
Speaker:fascinating is that GLP-I
Speaker:is activated in our
Speaker:digestive tract by bitter tasting foods.
Speaker:And bitter is something that
Speaker:we've removed from the
Speaker:flavor profile for most Americans.
Speaker:Most of the plants that we eat are bitter,
Speaker:but they've been hybridized
Speaker:or grown in such a way that
Speaker:they taste that bitterness
Speaker:is eliminated or removed.
Speaker:It's the alkaloids, it's the terpenes,
Speaker:it's all the things that
Speaker:protect the plant from
Speaker:degradation and getting eaten.
Speaker:Those are the fun things
Speaker:that are actually good for us, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so those activate, you know,
Speaker:this system in our body.
Speaker:A lot of people,
Speaker:I actually interviewed Dr.
Speaker:Navaz Abib about GLP-I's
Speaker:and the vagus nerve.
Speaker:And so many people's issues
Speaker:come from poor vagus nerve function.
Speaker:And so if I just fix the GLP-I component,
Speaker:that still leaves me or an
Speaker:individual rather with a
Speaker:broken vagus nerve.
Speaker:And so if your vagus nerve
Speaker:isn't working and you go on GLP-I,
Speaker:then you're probably going
Speaker:to be more prone to constipation,
Speaker:more prone to gastroparesis,
Speaker:because the nerve that
Speaker:stimulates that function in
Speaker:your body wasn't working
Speaker:well in the first place.
Speaker:So I feel like it's really
Speaker:important that people take
Speaker:a global approach.
Speaker:And the Living Light program
Speaker:can be a very excellent and
Speaker:affordable first line defense.
Speaker:And I think that should be
Speaker:the first intervention for
Speaker:people before they take any
Speaker:medication or before they
Speaker:take any supplement for that matter.
Speaker:One of the things that's
Speaker:really beautiful about this
Speaker:program is that we designed
Speaker:it in such a way
Speaker:that there was like five
Speaker:criteria that we put into it.
Speaker:So it had to satisfy these five criteria.
Speaker:It had to get results
Speaker:without needing any supplements.
Speaker:Now we can use,
Speaker:we have a metabolic spray
Speaker:that enhances results,
Speaker:but we get results even if
Speaker:people don't take it.
Speaker:They get better results if they do.
Speaker:I had to be able to give them, my clients,
Speaker:a money-back guarantee.
Speaker:So I had to know it was working.
Speaker:I had to be able to track outcomes.
Speaker:As practitioners, we should know this,
Speaker:that data is more valuable than oil,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:So that occurred in twenty twenty.
Speaker:That's why all the biggest
Speaker:companies are tech
Speaker:companies now used to be
Speaker:oil companies and other tech companies.
Speaker:So data has become more valuable.
Speaker:So how much data is your
Speaker:practice collecting?
Speaker:So we wanted to collect more data,
Speaker:which we do.
Speaker:We have a partnership with
Speaker:Oura Ring and Heads Up Health.
Speaker:So we're able to collect
Speaker:data on all of our clients,
Speaker:at least twenty different data points.
Speaker:And now we can use AI to
Speaker:monitor for trends and
Speaker:engage with the client if
Speaker:we notice certain trends.
Speaker:So we have data.
Speaker:Next,
Speaker:I wanted it to be able to be
Speaker:administered by a health coach.
Speaker:So that was another criteria.
Speaker:We wanted to make sure that
Speaker:literally anyone can offer this program.
Speaker:And we wanted to make sure
Speaker:that it was able to deliver
Speaker:results in group environments.
Speaker:And in fact,
Speaker:better results result from
Speaker:doing it as a group,
Speaker:as a collective with other people.
Speaker:The Cleveland Clinic did the study on it.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:So we already know this, right?
Speaker:So if you're evidence-based
Speaker:as a practitioner,
Speaker:then the evidence clearly
Speaker:shows that group-based
Speaker:programs are more effective
Speaker:than one-on-one programs.
Speaker:And they're also a great
Speaker:business model because A,
Speaker:you can help more people
Speaker:because we're all doing this for impact.
Speaker:You know, Josh,
Speaker:you and I both know there's
Speaker:easier ways we can make money.
Speaker:With the business acumen we have,
Speaker:the connections we have,
Speaker:the experience that we have,
Speaker:like the masterminds and
Speaker:all the things that we've been through,
Speaker:we can make way more money
Speaker:doing other things,
Speaker:being involved in other industries.
Speaker:But we're not because we
Speaker:love helping people.
Speaker:And so if I want to help the
Speaker:most number of people,
Speaker:then it's not going to happen one-on-one.
Speaker:The only way it's going to
Speaker:happen is in groups and
Speaker:then eventually stadiums.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So so that's that's what we
Speaker:have to understand is that
Speaker:in order for us to have the
Speaker:biggest impact,
Speaker:we have to make sure that
Speaker:we can produce results for
Speaker:people and we can do it at scale.
Speaker:And so those are the five
Speaker:criteria that I wanted to solve for.
Speaker:And then what we did is we solve for that.
Speaker:And that has more to do with
Speaker:the program being delivered.
Speaker:And then we had to solve another problem,
Speaker:which is how do we
Speaker:administer this through practitioners?
Speaker:And that's what we did with
Speaker:the Living Light licensing program.
Speaker:So now in thirty days,
Speaker:nobody can do it faster and
Speaker:nobody can do it better.
Speaker:Nobody has more proof.
Speaker:Nobody has more data.
Speaker:Nobody has more results.
Speaker:Nobody has more case studies.
Speaker:Nobody has more coaches that
Speaker:they've trained in this
Speaker:system to deliver this than we have.
Speaker:So we've already built the
Speaker:entire ecosystem and taken
Speaker:all of the friction points
Speaker:to hold a practitioner back
Speaker:from delivering this into
Speaker:their communities
Speaker:immediately is them making that decision.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:We eliminate all the risk for them.
Speaker:The beauty of it, though,
Speaker:is like taking away the barriers.
Speaker:to, and then the only barrier is yourself.
Speaker:It's like, yeah, you said saying yes,
Speaker:taking the action step and
Speaker:putting the shoe on and
Speaker:actually walking forward, right?
Speaker:That call to action is,
Speaker:it's always generally the
Speaker:hardest step because
Speaker:Once you take that step,
Speaker:then all those other things,
Speaker:they're gone.
Speaker:There's nothing else to get
Speaker:in the way because I've
Speaker:been in your program for a
Speaker:while and I know a lot of
Speaker:other people have.
Speaker:There was friction points
Speaker:because of all those other
Speaker:things that had to get
Speaker:built during the time.
Speaker:We were busy and this and that,
Speaker:and some people didn't make it,
Speaker:some people did.
Speaker:And all of a sudden it was just,
Speaker:when this evolution came through,
Speaker:it was like, oh,
Speaker:that makes so much more sense.
Speaker:And it is evolved.
Speaker:It's been in this beautiful space.
Speaker:This is where, and yes,
Speaker:if it's health coach or any
Speaker:mid-level provider,
Speaker:this doesn't have to be
Speaker:someone that makes three
Speaker:hundred dollars an hour to
Speaker:deliver a program.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:It can be done with the
Speaker:simplistic component of
Speaker:what we're talking about.
Speaker:And what I loved you said is.
Speaker:it's lifestyle medicine
Speaker:which is should be the
Speaker:first line of therapy which
Speaker:we've forgotten this is the
Speaker:the wisdom we're
Speaker:remembering back in a full
Speaker:circle space is like you
Speaker:said in blue zones and all
Speaker:these other places back in
Speaker:the day like we didn't have
Speaker:all these modern conveniences
Speaker:We did them, but now we naturally forgot,
Speaker:just like we've forgotten
Speaker:because we're in the age of information.
Speaker:Now we're moving into the
Speaker:age of intelligence,
Speaker:this innate intelligence in our bodies,
Speaker:this innate intelligence to
Speaker:heal and using those technologies.
Speaker:But the simplest,
Speaker:easiest technologies are
Speaker:the ones that you're
Speaker:teaching within this program,
Speaker:which allows us to have, like you said,
Speaker:impact, high impact,
Speaker:low economic impact that can
Speaker:change literally the
Speaker:landscape of healthcare.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:all I have to do is save somebody
Speaker:half a day in the hospital
Speaker:over the course of their
Speaker:lifetime and it pays for the program.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:Those are the economics, right?
Speaker:If you can stay out of the
Speaker:hospital for half a day
Speaker:over the course of your lifetime,
Speaker:you've probably more than
Speaker:doubled your investment.
Speaker:Getting people to understand
Speaker:the dynamic of that is
Speaker:really been a challenge for
Speaker:a lot of people because
Speaker:they want that instant gratification.
Speaker:Like how much does it cost
Speaker:and what is this going to happen?
Speaker:And it's like, we, like you said,
Speaker:we want to get you to where
Speaker:you can live vibrantly for
Speaker:as long as possible.
Speaker:And that infirmary time, like you said,
Speaker:is like,
Speaker:and I just want to drop off the planet.
Speaker:When my time is done, I'm done.
Speaker:I don't want to drag myself out.
Speaker:And I think a lot of people
Speaker:don't understand what
Speaker:there's a curve to get to that point.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And like you said,
Speaker:it is timeless and priceless.
Speaker:What if this program is infinite, right?
Speaker:If you teach this to one person,
Speaker:they teach it to their families.
Speaker:And those are my kids teach
Speaker:it to their kids.
Speaker:Like I, I,
Speaker:I call my kids organo baby experiments.
Speaker:Because right at the time
Speaker:where I was having children,
Speaker:eleven and a half years ago, fifteen,
Speaker:sixteen years ago was like
Speaker:my journey through health and wellness.
Speaker:And it was clean eating.
Speaker:It was doing these things right.
Speaker:My wife was got pregnant.
Speaker:We wanted to do things in a different way.
Speaker:She was going through her own migraines.
Speaker:We solved them from an
Speaker:integrative perspective
Speaker:because all the specialists
Speaker:couldn't deal with it.
Speaker:But they grew up and it's
Speaker:like at two years old,
Speaker:they know what the organic
Speaker:symbol looks like.
Speaker:And now I kid with them like, hey, kids,
Speaker:you want to go to Burger King for dinner?
Speaker:And they're the first thing
Speaker:my daughter goes, Dad, no.
Speaker:And I'm like, why not?
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:they don't have clean meat.
Speaker:And I'm like, I love you.
Speaker:Like, it's just in them now.
Speaker:They just don't.
Speaker:It's not in their DNA to
Speaker:think about the French fry
Speaker:that they might eat that
Speaker:gets stuck in the driver's
Speaker:seat of their car that never decomposes.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Not a good thing.
Speaker:So this is something that we
Speaker:can bring generationally as well to our,
Speaker:because this is the process, right?
Speaker:We've been programmed,
Speaker:eat because it tastes good,
Speaker:and then take these
Speaker:medicines to reduce your symptoms.
Speaker:You'll never get better,
Speaker:but you just take this stuff.
Speaker:We're talking cures here.
Speaker:We're talking healing, reversing.
Speaker:I always just tell people in
Speaker:ten weeks we can reverse
Speaker:diabetes most of the time.
Speaker:because diabetes is a lifestyle problem.
Speaker:It's not a diagnostic.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:we know that there's some viruses and
Speaker:other things that can happen,
Speaker:but like in the majority of the cases,
Speaker:it's, it's a lifestyle issue.
Speaker:Once it's addressed can be reversed.
Speaker:And so this is, this is where we're,
Speaker:this is why I love this
Speaker:conversation with you is
Speaker:because I believe that
Speaker:And you can tell me from your angle,
Speaker:like from a practitioner perspective,
Speaker:a healthcare perspective,
Speaker:but mostly from a personal perspective,
Speaker:the people we talk to is
Speaker:they're also not very happy
Speaker:with the systems that are
Speaker:in front of them.
Speaker:They're searching for these things.
Speaker:They're looking to empower,
Speaker:they just need guides.
Speaker:And I think that's what
Speaker:you've been doing so well
Speaker:eloquently done is
Speaker:we become guides in people's journeys.
Speaker:Just like I say,
Speaker:the coach doesn't play the game.
Speaker:Your money back guarantee
Speaker:doesn't mean Sachin's gonna
Speaker:do it all for you, right?
Speaker:The coach doesn't play the game.
Speaker:The player plays the game.
Speaker:So for when I say is like,
Speaker:if you go through this program,
Speaker:you'll get results.
Speaker:And I think this is an ism
Speaker:that you've had is like for
Speaker:the right person, it's priceless.
Speaker:And for the wrong person, it's worthless,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And so that money back
Speaker:guarantee shifts the
Speaker:philosophy around who's in charge,
Speaker:who's empowered.
Speaker:Because that's the ultimate
Speaker:gift of this program for me,
Speaker:even going through it myself.
Speaker:I'm an eighty twenty guy.
Speaker:I'm probably not ninety percent,
Speaker:but I'm eighty twenty.
Speaker:Most of the time I'm doing really good.
Speaker:And I went through it and
Speaker:understanding the
Speaker:experience of after I went
Speaker:through it really jarred me
Speaker:into understanding how
Speaker:complex things can get in
Speaker:my functional brain to how
Speaker:simple it is to just do
Speaker:these things and do them with consistency,
Speaker:which makes all the
Speaker:difference in the world.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:I think, you know, I love, I love, um,
Speaker:what you just shared.
Speaker:And it's a reminder for me.
Speaker:Sometimes we forget the isms,
Speaker:the things that we share,
Speaker:and it's beautiful to have
Speaker:it reflected back.
Speaker:And I love that for the right person,
Speaker:it's priceless, and for the wrong person,
Speaker:it's worthless.
Speaker:That's like...
Speaker:One of my favorite quotes of all time.
Speaker:I quoted you, my friend.
Speaker:It wasn't for me.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker:It's great to hear it
Speaker:reflected back and to hear
Speaker:somebody else say it means
Speaker:that the message is getting passed along,
Speaker:which I love.
Speaker:I think it's important for
Speaker:people to recognize that
Speaker:somewhere along the way,
Speaker:They were convinced that
Speaker:they're not worth it
Speaker:somewhere along the way.
Speaker:And for many people,
Speaker:they might have to go back
Speaker:to that point to figure out
Speaker:what that point was,
Speaker:where they became not the
Speaker:best investment in their life.
Speaker:I think that's ultimately
Speaker:what holds a lot of people
Speaker:back is this little voice
Speaker:inside of them that they're not worth it.
Speaker:I've said it in a different
Speaker:light so many times.
Speaker:People have the right, the human right,
Speaker:the divine right to be vibrantly healthy.
Speaker:But I don't put healthy.
Speaker:I just say vibrantly healthy
Speaker:because who wants to be
Speaker:healthy, whatever that means.
Speaker:We're in a sick care system,
Speaker:so healthy sometimes means
Speaker:I'm just not sick.
Speaker:That's not vibrant health to me.
Speaker:I want to wake up with all
Speaker:the energy in the world.
Speaker:I want to go at it every day.
Speaker:I want to have great body, mind, spirit,
Speaker:family, business, all of it.
Speaker:I want it all.
Speaker:I want to be whole.
Speaker:That's what we're talking about.
Speaker:Everybody has that right.
Speaker:Everybody has that choice.
Speaker:Everybody has that inside them.
Speaker:I think what you've said
Speaker:today has been lock it.
Speaker:I know we've got to wrap up here in a bit,
Speaker:but what I've known about
Speaker:you over the years is this
Speaker:thing called breathwork
Speaker:struck you pretty hard.
Speaker:And you've now gotten to the
Speaker:place where it's a big part of your life.
Speaker:You teach a lot of practitioners.
Speaker:You travel all around the
Speaker:world with this thing called breath.
Speaker:So I want you to talk about
Speaker:your journey in breathwork
Speaker:and what you do.
Speaker:then I want to give everyone
Speaker:like a little practice here
Speaker:like a little to do what
Speaker:they could do
Speaker:experientially just so when
Speaker:they hear it or watch this
Speaker:they they can go one step
Speaker:further because this real
Speaker:part of my podcast is what
Speaker:else can we do after this
Speaker:talk let's get out of
Speaker:thought and into doing but
Speaker:I want people I want you to
Speaker:talk about a little bit of
Speaker:your experience in breath work
Speaker:Okay, so I'll give you the three-minute,
Speaker:ninety-second to
Speaker:hundred-eighty-second
Speaker:keynote on breathing.
Speaker:So we take twenty-three
Speaker:thousand breaths a day.
Speaker:The majority of them are unconscious.
Speaker:We breathe thirty pounds of air a day,
Speaker:which means that we consume
Speaker:more air in a day than food in a week.
Speaker:Our breath is the first
Speaker:thing that is celebrated when we're born,
Speaker:and it's the last part of
Speaker:our life that's celebrated
Speaker:when we move on and transition.
Speaker:However, in between,
Speaker:many of us are breathing unconsciously.
Speaker:I refer to the breath as the
Speaker:steering wheel of the nervous system.
Speaker:And just like you could
Speaker:drive to work unconsciously
Speaker:and get there without
Speaker:realizing all the turns you
Speaker:made and all the details,
Speaker:you can get through life
Speaker:without paying attention to your breath.
Speaker:And it's almost like driving
Speaker:without your hands on the steering wheel.
Speaker:So imagine having to drive
Speaker:to work without putting
Speaker:your hands on the steering wheel.
Speaker:That would end pretty quickly.
Speaker:That's how we are going
Speaker:through life if we're not
Speaker:paying attention to our breath.
Speaker:There's a breath for every
Speaker:single function in our body.
Speaker:And I can prove it to you
Speaker:because the first thing
Speaker:that changes when
Speaker:somebody's emotional state
Speaker:changes physically is their breath.
Speaker:So if somebody is shocked, they gasp,
Speaker:If somebody finds something funny,
Speaker:they laugh.
Speaker:If somebody feels relaxed, they sigh.
Speaker:So we have these breathing
Speaker:signatures that is a window
Speaker:into the state of
Speaker:somebody's nervous system.
Speaker:But it's a two-way street,
Speaker:which means that if my
Speaker:nervous system is changing
Speaker:my breath as its inner state changes,
Speaker:what if I change my breath?
Speaker:Could that change my inner state?
Speaker:And the answer turns out is yes.
Speaker:And the ancients have known
Speaker:this for as long as at
Speaker:least five thousand years
Speaker:that it's been documented.
Speaker:But I'm sure they knew about
Speaker:it long before that.
Speaker:And now we just have the
Speaker:instruments and the
Speaker:interests to measure it.
Speaker:And so when I started
Speaker:learning about breathing and breath work,
Speaker:what I started
Speaker:understanding is that it's
Speaker:the lead domino in our health.
Speaker:So before we even get up and
Speaker:look at the sun in the morning,
Speaker:you've already started breathing.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you've been breathing the whole time,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:But you've been doing that unconsciously.
Speaker:So immediately,
Speaker:as soon as we wake up and
Speaker:as soon as we come to our consciousness,
Speaker:the first thing that's
Speaker:always been there is our breath.
Speaker:So we can grab our nervous
Speaker:system by the steering
Speaker:wheel from the moment we wake up.
Speaker:And then periodically when
Speaker:we need to check in with
Speaker:ourselves or change our state,
Speaker:we can tap into our breath
Speaker:and we can breathe with
Speaker:awareness and intention.
Speaker:When I was first introduced
Speaker:to breathing was many, many moons ago.
Speaker:And I thought, this is so crazy.
Speaker:I associated breathing and
Speaker:breath work to meditation.
Speaker:What I help people to do now, Josh,
Speaker:is I help them learn how to
Speaker:breathe when they're not meditating.
Speaker:where they're not doing
Speaker:quote unquote breath work like Wim Hof,
Speaker:which are all great different techniques.
Speaker:Elemental rhythm is what I'm trained in.
Speaker:My mentor is trained in Wim
Speaker:Hof and he now teaches elemental rhythm,
Speaker:Giovanni Bartolomeo.
Speaker:And so the breath is
Speaker:something that is with us all day,
Speaker:every day.
Speaker:A simple thing that people
Speaker:can do to improve their
Speaker:quality of breathing and
Speaker:the state of their nervous system,
Speaker:they can do while they're sleeping.
Speaker:It's mouth taping.
Speaker:If you're not mouth-teeping at night,
Speaker:that's a great place for
Speaker:many people to start.
Speaker:If you already sleep with
Speaker:your mouth closed,
Speaker:it's an insurance policy.
Speaker:And if you don't,
Speaker:watch what happens when you
Speaker:sleep with your mouth
Speaker:closed and breathe through
Speaker:your nose while you sleep.
Speaker:It completely transforms the
Speaker:quality of your recovery
Speaker:and the quality of your sleep,
Speaker:the quality of your cognition,
Speaker:the quality of blood flow in your body.
Speaker:right?
Speaker:The quality of your sexual health,
Speaker:all of these things depend
Speaker:and dental health and immune health,
Speaker:all of them depend on us
Speaker:breathing through our nose
Speaker:versus breathing through our mouth.
Speaker:And the majority of people
Speaker:breathe with their mouth open at night.
Speaker:So that's like a safe bet
Speaker:for most people to do.
Speaker:And it costs literally
Speaker:pennies a day to do it with
Speaker:some surgical tape.
Speaker:All you do is just place the
Speaker:tape vertically like this.
Speaker:And that's probably been one
Speaker:of the most life-changing
Speaker:things that we've had our
Speaker:clients do when it comes to breath.
Speaker:And then there's, of course,
Speaker:different advanced
Speaker:techniques that we can
Speaker:teach people to alter their
Speaker:state if they want more energy,
Speaker:if they want to feel more calm.
Speaker:There's ways that we can do that.
Speaker:And when you start looking
Speaker:at the breath through the
Speaker:lens of how it affects
Speaker:different aspects of our health,
Speaker:we start realizing that our
Speaker:breath and our lungs are
Speaker:closely tied to trauma and grief.
Speaker:which so many of us are carrying around.
Speaker:And when I made this connection,
Speaker:and it's a theory,
Speaker:and I'm sure somebody can
Speaker:measure this for me to prove it to me,
Speaker:but one of the worst things
Speaker:we can have a parent tell a
Speaker:child is to stop crying.
Speaker:When we tell a child to stop crying,
Speaker:the only way for them to
Speaker:stop crying is to stop breathing.
Speaker:And the only way for them to
Speaker:stop breathing is to hold
Speaker:their diaphragm very tightly.
Speaker:against all the resistance
Speaker:that they're facing to
Speaker:release that energy through the cry.
Speaker:So crying is a way that we
Speaker:self-regulate the nervous system.
Speaker:We always feel better as
Speaker:adults after we cry.
Speaker:A good cry, right?
Speaker:A good cry, exactly.
Speaker:And so children are trying
Speaker:to regulate their nervous
Speaker:systems by crying.
Speaker:And we take that gift away from them.
Speaker:and we bury it into their
Speaker:myofascial system.
Speaker:But in order for them to stop breathing,
Speaker:their diaphragm has to
Speaker:become really tight and stiff,
Speaker:and then it starts to
Speaker:develop trigger points.
Speaker:And when the diaphragm
Speaker:develops trigger points,
Speaker:now it doesn't move through
Speaker:its full range of motion,
Speaker:so the breath becomes short and shallow.
Speaker:Now,
Speaker:the short and shallow breath is the
Speaker:breathing signature of stress,
Speaker:the breathing signature of
Speaker:fight or flight.
Speaker:which is what most people
Speaker:might find themselves in
Speaker:throughout their day or
Speaker:even at nighttime if
Speaker:they're breathing through their mouth.
Speaker:So we have people who are
Speaker:perpetually in a
Speaker:sympathetic dominant state,
Speaker:even though there's no
Speaker:reason for them to be
Speaker:simply because of the way
Speaker:they're functioning.
Speaker:Because the breath,
Speaker:just like the steering wheel in your car,
Speaker:if you steer it a certain direction,
Speaker:it's going to have a
Speaker:predictable direction that
Speaker:it's going to go in.
Speaker:And so if we are short, shallow breathers,
Speaker:because of this store of trauma,
Speaker:breathwork helps us release,
Speaker:bring that trauma to the surface.
Speaker:So the diaphragm has three functions.
Speaker:And I know I'm more than
Speaker:ninety seconds over here.
Speaker:The diaphragm has three key functions.
Speaker:One is referred to as a second heart.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Two, it's also a lymphatic pump.
Speaker:Some of your biggest lymph
Speaker:nodes are underneath your diaphragm.
Speaker:So it pumps your lymphatic
Speaker:system and acts as a piston
Speaker:to pump all of your internal organs.
Speaker:So if your breath is short and shallow,
Speaker:then you're not getting as
Speaker:much lymphatic flow as well.
Speaker:If your breath is short and shallow,
Speaker:your lungs and your
Speaker:diaphragm aren't assisting
Speaker:your heart as much as they
Speaker:could be to pump blood through your body.
Speaker:And the third thing the
Speaker:diaphragm does is it acts
Speaker:as a conduit of the myofascial system.
Speaker:So if you ever think of a spider web,
Speaker:right,
Speaker:we have the spider web that
Speaker:connects to all of the cell
Speaker:nuclei in our body simultaneously.
Speaker:It's called the myofascial system.
Speaker:It's one of the more
Speaker:recently discovered parts of our anatomy.
Speaker:We used to just cut through
Speaker:it when we did cadaver dissection.
Speaker:Turns out it's all connected.
Speaker:So imagine the spider web
Speaker:that goes through your entire body.
Speaker:And just like a spider web,
Speaker:if you just tap a spider web on one side,
Speaker:the whole web shakes, right?
Speaker:The spider from anywhere on
Speaker:the web knows that there's
Speaker:something in my web.
Speaker:So we have this same system
Speaker:in our body called the myofascial system.
Speaker:And the diaphragm is like
Speaker:the middle of the spider web, right?
Speaker:And that makes sense because
Speaker:it's a muscle that cuts
Speaker:across our body and it's
Speaker:right in the middle of our body, right?
Speaker:So it would make sense that
Speaker:that's the center of our spider web.
Speaker:And so when we take people
Speaker:through different types of
Speaker:breathing cadences,
Speaker:it's like shaking the spider web,
Speaker:waking up those spiders, so to speak,
Speaker:those demons, so to speak,
Speaker:those emotions that are
Speaker:trapped in that system and
Speaker:boiling them to the surface,
Speaker:bringing them all to the
Speaker:center and then releasing
Speaker:them with the breath.
Speaker:Because biochemically, what is the breath?
Speaker:It's the byproduct of metabolism.
Speaker:It's a byproduct of stored energy.
Speaker:And emotions are stored energy.
Speaker:They're just stored in the
Speaker:myofascial system.
Speaker:And that's when we start
Speaker:getting rid of pain that
Speaker:people thought they'd have
Speaker:to deal with for the rest of their life,
Speaker:pain that medications wouldn't touch,
Speaker:that therapy and things
Speaker:like that wouldn't make a difference for.
Speaker:It's because it was
Speaker:emotional pain that they
Speaker:were holding onto.
Speaker:And so when we take people
Speaker:through breathing and teach
Speaker:them how to breathe properly,
Speaker:their myofascial system works better.
Speaker:So their emotional health
Speaker:improves as well.
Speaker:I've never heard it explained like that.
Speaker:So I learned something today.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:No, it,
Speaker:but it makes so much clearer sense.
Speaker:Why like mechanistically,
Speaker:why that all releases?
Speaker:Cause you know,
Speaker:you always talk about
Speaker:releasing trauma and
Speaker:releasing these things and moving from,
Speaker:how do you release
Speaker:something that's energetic
Speaker:or in the space of an
Speaker:emotional component from a
Speaker:physical space?
Speaker:And it's like linking those
Speaker:three together through the myofascia.
Speaker:which I learned about
Speaker:through my wife's journey with her hips.
Speaker:Like it was just, it had to be there.
Speaker:So it was something I had learned about,
Speaker:but I never,
Speaker:I never had put through the
Speaker:connection with how the
Speaker:breath and breath work because it is work,
Speaker:um,
Speaker:how it all connects into that space of
Speaker:releasing.
Speaker:So thank you.
Speaker:That was beautiful.
Speaker:My pleasure.
Speaker:I always learn something
Speaker:when I'm with you and
Speaker:holding space with you.
Speaker:Two last questions,
Speaker:then we'll wrap up here.
Speaker:We could probably go forever
Speaker:on the things we could talk about,
Speaker:but what does healthcare
Speaker:look like ten years from
Speaker:now if we get this damn thing right?
Speaker:Oh, man.
Speaker:That's a great question.
Speaker:I think what healthcare looks like is...
Speaker:Hospitals become a place
Speaker:where people gather in
Speaker:community to learn because
Speaker:we still have those buildings.
Speaker:We don't have to tear them down.
Speaker:We can use them.
Speaker:I've always said there's
Speaker:amazing people doing
Speaker:amazing work in there,
Speaker:but they should have a
Speaker:lecture hall where the
Speaker:public can come and get
Speaker:educated on various topics
Speaker:related to health.
Speaker:It should be a university spelled Y-O-U.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:People should come to learn
Speaker:about how to take care of themselves.
Speaker:I would say that I would
Speaker:love to see the education
Speaker:system teach children the
Speaker:fundamentals and the basics
Speaker:and actually have them practice it.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Not just talk about it,
Speaker:but have them live it.
Speaker:It has to be a live.
Speaker:You know, health is a lived experience.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Not something you read about
Speaker:in a book or watch on a
Speaker:YouTube video or even college.
Speaker:You know, if you're watching a podcast,
Speaker:right?
Speaker:Like, I mean, maybe you're walking,
Speaker:so you're applying what
Speaker:we're teaching you or
Speaker:you're outside or something like that,
Speaker:whatever the case may be.
Speaker:But none of this time that
Speaker:we spent together makes any
Speaker:sense or has any value
Speaker:unless it changes a behavior.
Speaker:And so health is a lived experience.
Speaker:We have to live it.
Speaker:And so I want to see more
Speaker:people living and learning
Speaker:how to live and be healthy.
Speaker:I mean, think about when you had kids,
Speaker:did anyone teach you
Speaker:anything about how to take
Speaker:care of that baby from the
Speaker:very beginning?
Speaker:No, they throw you in the mix, right?
Speaker:Like, here you go.
Speaker:Here's that thing you're
Speaker:supposed to love and care
Speaker:for for the rest of your life.
Speaker:And good luck with that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's imagine getting the keys to
Speaker:the most expensive car on
Speaker:the planet and nobody
Speaker:teaches you what the
Speaker:buttons are or what to push
Speaker:or what fuel to put in it, nothing.
Speaker:And you just kind of left
Speaker:your own devices.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:so we're we're I'd love to see
Speaker:that aspect change.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Where, you know, people even recognize,
Speaker:hey,
Speaker:I'm about to bring a new life into
Speaker:this world.
Speaker:Maybe I should take the most
Speaker:amazing care of myself.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So I can build a healthy baby,
Speaker:not just have a baby and
Speaker:and then instill and
Speaker:impregnate all of this
Speaker:wisdom into them from the very beginning.
Speaker:I would love to see that day
Speaker:come to fruition.
Speaker:And it's happening, right?
Speaker:I think we planted the seeds
Speaker:in our children for that to happen.
Speaker:I want to see more people doing that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I think it's like that, like, again,
Speaker:the flywheel effect.
Speaker:Once there's like,
Speaker:I think I heard a twenty
Speaker:seven percent is the number
Speaker:where things just perpetually now come.
Speaker:And so you've been a big
Speaker:part of that in my life for sure.
Speaker:I think one other thing I would add, Josh,
Speaker:if I may, I'd be remiss not to say it,
Speaker:is that I believe health starts at home.
Speaker:So I already see it happening.
Speaker:People are going to have
Speaker:more self-care tools and
Speaker:devices and red lights or
Speaker:all the things to help
Speaker:promote their health
Speaker:starting in their home.
Speaker:Where it used to be that anything healthy,
Speaker:we had to go outside of the home.
Speaker:Like now we're seeing saunas
Speaker:come into people's homes, coal plunges,
Speaker:you know, red lights.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:everything's becoming a lot more
Speaker:accessible and affordable.
Speaker:I think that's really happening.
Speaker:And I'd love to see more of that happen.
Speaker:And the third thing I'd love
Speaker:to see happen is children
Speaker:born with a functional genomic test.
Speaker:So my son, when he was about two,
Speaker:we did some genomic testing
Speaker:on him to just really
Speaker:understand who he is,
Speaker:like what model car he is, so to speak.
Speaker:And that's been super
Speaker:insightful and helpful.
Speaker:It also can be very
Speaker:deterministic in how to raise a child,
Speaker:understanding how they're
Speaker:at least genetically wired.
Speaker:And of course,
Speaker:epigenetics are the most
Speaker:important component.
Speaker:which is the environment we raised them in,
Speaker:but it's what if you had both, right?
Speaker:What would that look like?
Speaker:I'd love to see more parents now that it's,
Speaker:you know, like, you know,
Speaker:three hundred fifty dollars
Speaker:or so to get your genome tested,
Speaker:that that's super
Speaker:affordable for people to do.
Speaker:And that's actually part of
Speaker:what we offer in our
Speaker:program as well as genomic testing.
Speaker:Uh, you and I use the same tests, uh,
Speaker:it's you do it once and
Speaker:there's so much information.
Speaker:And that's why I think what
Speaker:you said was beautiful wisdom is like,
Speaker:well, if you're going to do it,
Speaker:do it early.
Speaker:Like, cause it's, it's just,
Speaker:there's so much information
Speaker:that we can utilize because yes,
Speaker:epigenetics is science.
Speaker:Now it's not the, you know,
Speaker:the genes don't dictate the health,
Speaker:it's the environment and what we do.
Speaker:that health, but,
Speaker:and then I've read before, it's like, and,
Speaker:you know, it's like the genes,
Speaker:what do they say?
Speaker:The genes, load the gun, load the gun.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And the environment pulls the trigger.
Speaker:And, and, and you hold the bullet.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:So I learned that the other
Speaker:day is like we we hold the
Speaker:bullet and like it's our
Speaker:choice to do these things.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And so that's beautiful wisdom.
Speaker:I love this conversation.
Speaker:Where do people find you?
Speaker:Where can they work with you?
Speaker:What can they learn more
Speaker:about Sachin and what he's doing?
Speaker:Yeah, well, thank you.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:if somebody is interested in
Speaker:working with us as a clinician,
Speaker:they can go to perfect
Speaker:practice mentorship dot com.
Speaker:And if they're interested in, you know,
Speaker:that's where they can learn
Speaker:more about our licensing program as well.
Speaker:And then if they're
Speaker:interested in working with
Speaker:us as a client going
Speaker:through the Living Light program,
Speaker:certainly they can work with Josh.
Speaker:But, you know,
Speaker:if people want more
Speaker:information about that,
Speaker:then they can go to mymetabolicreset.ca.
Speaker:And that'll take them right
Speaker:to that program page where
Speaker:they can learn more.
Speaker:They can watch a little mini
Speaker:video on the program,
Speaker:see some testimonials,
Speaker:and then schedule a free
Speaker:consult if they wish.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Amazing.
Speaker:And you can find his book.
Speaker:His book is everywhere.
Speaker:And the book has a lot of
Speaker:that information we talked
Speaker:about in the program.
Speaker:And I loved it because I
Speaker:went through it the other day,
Speaker:just thinking about our conversation.
Speaker:And it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker:I learned all this.
Speaker:And it's in our DNA to do this stuff.
Speaker:So I think these guides, you, man,
Speaker:you've done such a good job in
Speaker:like, you say it too,
Speaker:I'm going to give the like
Speaker:being the product of your product, right?
Speaker:You you epitomize health, wellness,
Speaker:wholeness, well being.
Speaker:I've loved seeing your
Speaker:transition through this
Speaker:whole process and mine and
Speaker:how we've gone along this
Speaker:journey together.
Speaker:I consider you a brother, you're amazing.
Speaker:Thank you so much for
Speaker:showing up in this world,
Speaker:putting a dent in the
Speaker:universe and just being you.
Speaker:Thank you, brother.
Speaker:Thank you, brother.
Speaker:What an honor.
Speaker:What a pleasure to witness
Speaker:our collective growth and
Speaker:to see that we're together
Speaker:with not just me and you,
Speaker:but the people who are listening to this,
Speaker:bringing that world that we
Speaker:all want to see into fruition.
Speaker:So thank you for holding space for it.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:What a great show.
Speaker:I'm so glad that we got to do this.
Speaker:All right, guys, that's a wrap.
Speaker:Until next time, stay well.