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EP # 222 Saying goodbye to 2025-The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
Episode 22231st December 2025 • Dont get this Twisted • Dont get this Twisted
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In this episode, Robb and Tina reflect on the past year, discussing the good, the bad, and the ugly moments of 2025. They explore themes of karma in relationships, the importance of looking forward, and the value of time spent with loved ones. The conversation touches on health challenges, embracing change, and letting go of material possessions. They emphasize the significance of finding joy in the present, navigating friendships, and being true to oneself as they prepare for the new year.

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Robb (:

and welcome to another show of Don't Get This twisted. I am Rob, along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Tina M Garcia (:

I am hanging in there, Rob. How you doing?

Robb (:

I'm getting by.

Tina M Garcia (:

We were both talking before the show.

Robb (:

Yeah, I'm getting by. It's, know, funny, I don't even know how this came up, but I put it on our little list of things to do. And I it's probably because I listened to a bunch of other weird shit or podcasts or. You know, YouTube or whatever it's I get along with a bunch of different things. But one of them was like, obviously, it's coming up on the New Year since we're.

Tina M Garcia (:

You

Robb (:

past that and it's coming up, you know, well, as you hear this episode, it is New Year's Eve, right? Isn't that gonna be when this one comes out, I believe? Yes, yes, yes, yes. So as you're looking at New Year's Eve today or tonight, whenever you're listening to this, our lovely voices.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

Robb (:

I thought we would do one that's saying goodbye to 2025, the good, the bad, the ugly.

Tina M Garcia (:

Get out! Run, forest!

Robb (:

Because I think, look, every year has all of those, right?

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, well this year started with the fires all around, you know, and everybody losing their homes and things still aren't being built and life has not gone on in a whole year.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

No, Pacific Palisades is gonna be low income housing, which is a whole other monster with our shitty governor. Another reason to get the hell out of Dodge. So, you know, look, I think...

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

You

Robb (:

You know, I don't remember what we did last year for New Year's, but we probably I don't think we did resolutions because we did that like, I don't know, the first year we did this or. Yeah, they all kind of blur together now, but I thought like, look, because like this has been kind of an odd. An odd year for me. And that's putting it lightly like just so many. Odd things have happened.

Tina M Garcia (:

How many years we been doing this? How many years ago? Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mmm.

Robb (:

You know, you start looking at that. You just have to wonder, like, is anyone looking out for me? Like, or, you know, who did karma? Maybe it's karma. Maybe I've done some dumb shit and it's finally coming back to get me because I have. We've talked about it on the show before. I've I've been the second in a few relationships and I don't think that that's I'm sure it's coming back to get me.

But, you know, I think you start looking at life as you get older and you you wonder how you get through some of these years sometimes because of just everything and some good, some bad, some definitely ugly. I think all in all, this has been a good year. All in all.

Tina M Garcia (:

Okay.

Robb (:

There's been some speed bumps and some hiccups for sure. I think...

You know, when it comes to relationship wise or and I mean that from like every kind of relationship, friendships as well. Weird shit has happened to me. My what I would say is a weird friend ended up getting married out of nowhere, which was kind of odd.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

But now I look at that from the standpoint of, look, people, you don't get a lot of good people in your life. I haven't talked to them in quite a while. I'm going to assume things are going well, just because you should assume if you don't know. So you know what, like,

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

you

Robb (:

Things happen for a reason, whatever that means to you. So, but I thought that would have been like, like more damaging to me. And it kind of wasn't. And I guess that's a kind of a good thing.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, you know what, you know what with that, there have been times in my life where I've always gone back to this one saying, you don't know what you're being freed from or spared from.

by not being in the situation that you would have been in.

Robb (:

100%.

Tina M Garcia (:

And you know, I look at things sometimes and I'm like, shit, thank you. I know it hurt, you know, I didn't want it to be that way ever, but thank you. Thank you for sparing me that lesson. Whatever it was gonna be, you know it was gonna suck.

Robb (:

All right.

Robb (:

Right. No, and and you know, I look at it from the standpoint too as a Maybe it's the same for them You know what I mean? Like and and not to like crap on myself, but I think that there is something to that

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, but you don't need to worry about their shit. Just yours. You know what I mean? Like, fuck Right?

Robb (:

Right. No, no, I agree. But what I'm saying is, is it's always a two way street, right? Things happen for reasons, whatever, whatever they're supposed to be, however they go down, whatever it is. Pain is always pain, regardless of what it is. It's really wild. I think my subconscious has been working on like,

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

level a thousand lately i've been having like insanely weird dreams with people who either i haven't talked to in years or they're dead which is even weirder like having dead people in dreams is very bizarre to me and it's funny because it's it was two people

Tina M Garcia (:

Mmm.

Mmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

that that I traveled the road with wrestling for many years. So I woke up and I was like, what is what is that trying to tell me? What's my subconscious trying to tell me with having people who aren't here anymore speaking to me?

Tina M Garcia (:

You know, I wonder, cause you said something about if anyone was there for you. You know, there's, there's...

Robb (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

I think that there's always somebody there for you, Rob. I've watched you over the years. I know that even when somebody's not walking next to you, somebody's walking with you. I've always felt that of you. And I think you believe that because you've gotten out of things that you wouldn't have gotten out of because nobody was there. And that's, I don't know. I think sometimes you just have to believe.

It's no different than when I was in that car accident and the first thing I thought when I was in it was one more time you're by yourself. And then this guy pulls up behind me, holds my hand, takes care of me and his name ended up being up being Angel. And then the next guy, the Totra guy, what it was his name, Angel. And then he left a message saying, you know, God puts people in your life so that you're never alone. Like we need to start.

listening to those types of signs because you've gotten them too. You just don't, you're not, it's either not registering or you're not acknowledging them, but you've, you know, we are not alone, definitely.

Robb (:

I look, you know my history of religion and my lack thereof. But I will definitely tell you, we've spoken about it on the show before. It's definitely changed over the last couple of years. And look, I think everyone is put in a place in our life either,

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

in the past for whatever reason and currently for whatever reason that it's it's undeniable that you people come in and out of your lives for whatever reason it is it's it's like psych our good friend that from way way back in the day you know just talking to her every blue moon

You know, I think has some little. It's good for everybody, you know what I mean? Mostly in her case, because I think she's definitely like a little lost sheep that sometimes needs to have someone go, hey, just so you know. Things things will end up getting better at some point, but we all have to do it ourselves.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

So I think every time the new year comes around, it's always good to look upon what happened.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

just because I think you start looking towards the new year with let's not make these same fucking mistakes.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, make new ones. Like, I'm all for making mistakes, but let's quit making the same fucking ones.

Robb (:

Absolutely and I think that there's something to be said about timing, right? Timing is everything. You know, I look at my boy and where he's at in life and what he's trying to do and where his future kind of holds.

And every time he talks about like where he wants to be, it's good because I hear him going, hey, when I'm gone, when I'm gone, when I'm gone. So he hasn't really given up yet. The whole. Yeah, I think, look, I think we have a great relationship with each other. But he I think he he needs to prove to himself that he can.

Tina M Garcia (:

He's manifesting it.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

go on and and not live under the thumb of his father where I see the same thing for me like he needs to go so I can move in a different direction you know what I mean and and I think that's what's good I think this year he'll do it he knows that he only has until

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

a certain month until we have to sign a new lease. And I had said something to him about that and he goes, I'll be gone before then. And I was like, you say that, but it comes in like so quickly. But so I think that those are the things I'm looking at with the new year coming, right?

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And to get rid of anything that was bad in this one. Like, okay, you know, whatever happened that was shitty, it happened. You know, you can't, we can't undo the past. You can just move forward in the future and hopefully, you know, you can make something of that.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

You know, I think with my surgeries, surgeries, you know, I my nose fixed way early. It just feels like very bizarre that I've had two surgeries, you know, in the same, in one year, which is crazy to me.

Tina M Garcia (:

in one year.

Robb (:

With my arm, think that that's kind of my ugly. Like I wanted to get it done and I was gung ho for it. And now, not that I wish I didn't, because I'm glad I did. But man, like it is definitely a, it just, was harder than I thought it was gonna be. So that one I'm really kind of looking forward to.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

really getting back to what it really was because it's really just kind of I don't want to say put me in depression but definitely gave me the man like

Tina M Garcia (:

It did put you into a lower grade depression. Anytime you have a surgery, an injury, when your health is not good, it's not gonna make you happy. It's gonna bring you down.

Robb (:

Mm-hmm. Absolutely. mean, thankfully, I had a lot of time off to rehab it, and I got to hang out with friends and kind of rekindle things with people I hadn't talked to in a long time. So that's kind of nice. So I think that if there's any, like, silver lining to it, I definitely, you know, got to do things that I wouldn't have been able to do. I, you know, when you take months off, it's...

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

It's a lot and some days I was like, fuck man, I can't do this anymore. Like I wanted to, I couldn't wait to get back to work because it's like you get bored. The first month was the best ever. I won't lie. The first month off, even though I was in pain, it was the best month because it's like you work all this time, right? For the, and then you finally get

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

like weeks off and you're like, man, this is awesome. Like I never want to go back to work. And then, you know, after four months, you're like, dude, I got to see human beings.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

I'm worried about going back to work and not knowing how to use the computer because I haven't used the software in that long. No, I know it'll come back to me quickly, but I'm sure I'm gonna go in there and be like, yeah, how do you clock in? So.

Tina M Garcia (:

Why?

Tina M Garcia (:

you got this. It's like riding a bike.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Or have they changed anything?

Robb (:

No, not yet, but I did. I knew that they were talking about getting a new software, which is great. Like we were already talking about that before I left. So at some point I'll learn a new software no matter what. But, you know, so like these are the things I think for the year that I'm just kind of like, okay, how do we, how do we get out of this kind of clean and, and move forward to, having a better next year?

Tina M Garcia (:

Mmm.

Robb (:

Because like that's something I really kind of I really want to kind of have. I'm I'm want to do my best to really make this next year the best I can.

Tina M Garcia (:

I think we should be wanting to do that every year.

Robb (:

Absolutely, and I think most people go into it like that or at least I try every year I don't think I I go into years like man. I hope it's a shitty one but I definitely want to to see where this is gonna go and and Just kind of be optimistic because I can be pretty pessimistic most days So this time I think I want to go into it was like, okay

Tina M Garcia (:

Right.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, a little bit.

Robb (:

Whatever happens happens and it's going to be for the best and you know wish all the people around me the same like. Life's hard enough. You know the last thing we need is. His. Something leaning on you for no good reason. Because. You know. Kind of you know I always tell people. You know everything will be OK because it has to. And.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yep.

Robb (:

It's absolutely true. You start looking at your years and you realize all the shit that you've gotten through. Right? All your, you know, mostly young shit. All your breakups as young people and then marriage, then divorce. And you realize that like, man, you can get through all that shit. It sucks. But it's.

It's, it's another year of learning for the next year. I think that's what the bigger thing is with this is whatever the shit you learn this year, take it into the next one. Cause

Tina M Garcia (:

Really? Because the next one's gonna be more lessons.

Robb (:

Look, yes, but isn't that what life has always been for us? Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

You

Good lord, but sometimes I need a break man. I'm hitting I'm getting hit one after another this

Robb (:

You've had a pretty rough year. And even on stuff that I'm going to sound a little like hee hee ha ha, but just your renovation. Because it's so funny, was going through a hard drive looking for some pictures that I really needed and I can't find. But then I found

Tina M Garcia (:

ear. Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Ugh.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

the renovation of my old condo. So when me and my wife were together, we had like the kitchen redone and everything tore out and new cabinets put in and we had a new staircase put in. We had a bunch of shit done and I found a bunch of pictures of like, like the ceiling open when we were putting cam lights up and the kitchen with no cupboards at all in it where they gutted it and like saw kinds of shit and I was going, wow, like.

Tina M Garcia (:

Robb (18:28.736)

Look at that. Because renovations can be fucking turmoil.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And mine were, but nothing like yours.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, no, it's been rough. And it's been going on a year and a half now.

Robb (:

Yeah, that's bonkers.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Robb (:

I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but how did you find a way through that without medicating?

Tina M Garcia (:

Hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Oh, well, I get high. mean, I am medicating. But no, you know what? I've grown, say in the last 15 years, a huge...

Robb (:

okay, well there you go. Then you are medicating.

Tina M Garcia (:

grown a huge ability to be more patient, like patient in ways I never ever thought I would be. And, and, you know, I kind of see life different. I know that things happen for a reason. I know that life is short. I mean, all the cliches that we say really are backed by, by how life really is. And so I, I'm just like, you know, in the scheme of things, is it worth it to get this pissed off? No.

Robb (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Is it gonna be like this in five years? No. it, you know, is it is this life altering where I'm never gonna be the same? Not that much. Like, you're alright. So I look at things different and I try not to let everything like bug me because I gotta tell you I could give you about 40 things right now that I try to not think of every day just so that I have a good day. But I could give you the list if you want it like really.

Robb (:

Right.

Robb (:

Right.

Tina M Garcia (:

could give you the list but we'd have to go off air because it's a personal list and there'd be a lot of names in it too.

Robb (:

Absolutely. I could do the exact same. Yeah. Where, and you just want to go, well this fucking thing and this fucking thing and this and them and theirs and this thing and the other thing.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, but

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, yeah But at the end of it like that's just gonna make us miserable I'd rather try to ignore it or put it away or say it's not gonna phase me and move on so that I'm still enjoying my life because You know, my one of my friends said we only I only have about 37 more summers and I was like that'll make you like 87. Okay

But when he says it like that, I only have 30 more summers. Like, are you kidding me right now? Don't say that to me, because I passed 54. You know, no, night. Yeah, 54 summers. So it's like, it goes so fast. So why would you let it all bother you?

Robb (:

Right.

Robb (:

Exactly, and I think that you should, the things that are presented to you, you should take the most out of them. Whatever that is, if it's a new job, take it. If it's moving to another state, take it, if that's what you want. I think that, and we've talked about it on here plenty of times.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Take it.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Robb (:

The only live once thing is kind of humorous, but I think it's the you only die once. So the years that you're alive, you should enjoy them. I've Yeah, I've found myself.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Yep, that's absolutely true.

Robb (:

talking to people about happiness, whatever that is to you. I guess that, like, I think in most cases, having things is just having things. Like, you can't take none of that shit with you. None of it.

Matter of fact, we've talked about it on here before. The people in your life are just gonna put it in a fucking garage sale after they, after everyone takes what they want. It's not time. Time is the biggest currency there is. The currency of enjoying a fucking steak dinner on the patio. That's the, you can't.

Tina M Garcia (:

How important is it really?

Mm-mm. Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

purchase that time. And I think that that's where I'm at. I don't care about things. Who cares?

Tina M Garcia (:

You really shouldn't though. When the 94 earthquake happened, I heard a saying that said what you covet will become your burden. And I just let go. I let go of everything. I had so many things that I used to like really like to look at and you know and have in my possession, have it be my things. I loved those little things that I had. And then the earthquake came and just pummeled the earth and everything in it.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

And after that, we picked it up with flat shovels and just threw it into a big trash bin and said, fuck it. it didn't mean anything anymore because we were so grateful that we were still alive, let alone, you know, our closest people. didn't have any deaths. And that was what we valued after that. And I really don't collect stuff because I don't want to have something that...

I have to be responsible for. So, you know, it's one of those things where you just have to...

You just have to let go sometimes and know that it's going to be okay.

Robb (:

That's it. And I think the bigger things are the like that's what I'm going into this new year. Like I don't care about things. Things are just things like, you know, do I want a nice car that runs? Absolutely. But do I need, you know, whatever, whatever you the next thing is, you know, do I need a, you know, the new PlayStation? No. Do I need, you know,

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Whatever, your thing is. Is it nice to vacation? Absolutely. I think that there's nothing wrong with that. But is it something that I have to do to live? No. It's nice. It's a luxury and it should be a luxury. Time, but you know, many, many moons from now when you're laying on your deathbed, are you going to go, man, it sure was nice to go to Oregon?

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

No, you're going to go, man, it sure was nice that I got to spend time with them. This. That's the thing you should you should covet the most. It's the people around you, obviously. You know, family. And friends.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

You know, and then then your mates like these are the things that that should mean more than anything in the world. So that's what I'm going into this new year. I do my best to not worry about getting things anymore. This.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

No, I don't know that I've been into getting things in a long long time. I'd rather give things than get things. Yeah.

Robb (:

That's me. I'm I'm really I'm a I love giving gifts and it's the death of me. I'm sure

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, but see, just not, I don't know, it kind of makes me uncomfortable. And I don't like when people that I get something for say that I made them uncomfortable by getting them something, but I feel the same way. I mean, I think we all go through, if we're a certain time of person.

Robb (:

Yeah, I used to be I used to be really bad at that. Actually, I am really bad at it, but I will tell you. Over the last year and a half or so, I did my best to. Take gifts with a smile. Generally, I'm really bad at it, but I will tell you that I got some gifts.

from people and I was, know, I didn't go, you shouldn't have. I just said, thank you. And some of them are like the best gifts I've ever got. Like things that I use daily that I would have never thought, you know, I would want one of those. So it's kind of cool.

But that's my new thing too, is I go, thank you very much. And I don't try to look deep into it anymore. Because I would always be like, why'd you do that? You don't need to get me anything. Because I look at it from my point of view, because I give stuff to people. And I'm sure that they go, they didn't have to get me this. And I go, yeah, but it's something I wanted to do. So I got to stop being hypocritical.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

I learned that a lot of men, or especially men in my circle, they really have the hardest time with gifts, and they don't want anything that's not practical. And so trying to be a girl and still want to give whatever they want to give, and then the men be able to receive it has become a little bit unusual.

Robb (:

Hmm

Tina M Garcia (:

For instance, I have a friend that's very, I don't need anything, I make my own money, I'm gonna do what I wanna do, and blah, blah, blah. He really doesn't need anybody, and he's quite the cactus, right? So, he doesn't want people a certain level of closeness, I think, just as a way to protect himself. But girls don't listen to that. They're just not that way.

Robb (:

Hmm

Tina M Garcia (:

And they're always pushing the closeness thing and I guess I'm just as guilty as the next one. But he said, do you buy guys flowers? you know, that's, that's, that's emasculating them. And that's this and that. And I'm like, is it though? I mean, don't they deserve flowers? He's like, well, they don't get treated like that. You know, women have to have flowers all the time and yada yada yada. And he went on and on and he's like, if you buy flowers for guys, don't buy flowers for me.

And I said, you don't like getting flowers? He goes, no, I don't. So when we go out on our motorcycle runs, I always buy the snacks. It's just he buys the lunches, I buy the snacks. just, you know, we do our thing, whatever we do. And so I bought the snacks before that. And then I took acrylic markers and I...

Robb (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Right. You have your thing.

Tina M Garcia (:

drew flowers all over the bag and I'm like, you got the practical and you got the flowers now what you know, it's almost me taunting him and being an ass just because I you know, who's got to get the last word I do but but in a way it was good because it taught me how to be creative and it it it I think that I think that it really touched him even though he's never gonna tell me that like but

Robb (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

You think?

Robb (:

Sure.

Tina M Garcia (:

But I did see the bag after he ate the contents of the bag out of it on his refrigerator. And he goes, I put my flowers in the refrigerator. Did you see it? And so it's almost like we're making little steps to like bridge the gap, you know, but it's so funny because I'm realizing I'm a pain in the ass. Like when it comes to being a friend, I go into people's...

spaces that they don't want me in, you know, we talk about stuff that they don't want to talk about. I guess I am I really that bad of a person? Like I do. I go into everybody. I know everything about everybody. It's just.

Robb (:

I don't think it's a bad thing. So here's my thing though. This is how I'll put it though. I've known you so long. Do you know what I mean? like, it's like two people in my life ever have called me Robbie. Two, my mom and you. And about three years ago, I said, please don't call me that anymore.

Tina M Garcia (:

That's your shake in your head?

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Hmm.

Robb (:

and you didn't stop so I gave up.

Tina M Garcia (:

It's not... You gotta understand, that's your name in my head. It's not like...

Robb (:

That's what I mean. That's why I was just like, okay, and I even told somebody else I was like She can't you can't help yourself. You've done it for so long that it's that's nature you know what I mean and and So I just I said whatever but I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say that you're a pain in the ass You're just very You're very upfront and a lot of people don't like that

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And I mean people in general because I say shit in front of people and sometimes I can see the. I can see the eyes open more or their their jaw drop a hair. Or or I'll say like stupid jokes, someone made a joke. Someone someone said something about France and I was like, yeah, but they're pussies and it got really quiet and I was like, it's a World War Two joke and no one got it so.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And they were younger and maybe it wasn't but then to me I was like my son's younger than you and he gets it like he thought it was funny. So but I get it. I don't think it's I don't think you're paying the ass. This is what I would do. Do you guys have a hobby lobby over there by you? You go in and buy him a flower that won't die.

Tina M Garcia (:

No.

Tina M Garcia (:

I do.

Robb (:

You the ones that are in that section on the far side that you can make and just go here you go. You go see now don't feel bad. It cost me like three bucks. It will never die. You can glue a magnet to it and throw it on your fridge.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

I don't know that's I like I think I got further with painting the flowers on the bag of his nuts and then

Robb (:

Whoa! You painted flowers on his nuts? Tina!

Tina M Garcia (:

I did. I always buy like some sort of nut either a peanut or a cashew or an almond. We always have nuts because the fear is at some point you could get, you know, you could stall out. You have to have snacks with you when you're on a bike because we go out into these places where there is nothing. So you don't want to go without. So I always buy like nuts and maybe a payday bar and some beef jerky. I grab a cup of bottles of water.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

You know, so so I always have nuts and then I just bought them early and put all the little flowers on it. And I said, look, and I painted on your nuts. And maybe that is. Yeah, I was probably being a pain in the ass with that because he's like this bitch, you know, but but later on he liked it. But I made it to where I I was going to notice that he was going to like it, you know, so.

I don't know, maybe I'm a pain in the ass, I don't care.

Robb (:

I don't think so. And I think that these are the things that make us who we are, right? And look, if you look at people, you know, that's the other thing going into this new year. I was talking to somebody one day and I was like, man, you're a lot. they, yeah, yeah. It went over about that good too.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Tina M Garcia (34:52.457)

I know. You shouldn't say that.

Robb (:

Yeah, I know. But, you know.

Tina M Garcia (:

to anybody.

Robb (:

Like I said, I say things that I, you know, I say dumb shit. I have a shirt that actually says that on it. I say dumb shit and I do, I say dumb shit all the time. It's gotten me in trouble with so many people. But this person said something right back, said if I'm too much, find somebody else.

Tina M Garcia (:

I say dumb shit.

Tina M Garcia (:

Robb (35:22.145)

And I was like, touche. And I think that's the truth. Like you can't, you can't, you can't be mad at somebody for that. Like, okay, well, if you can't handle certain people, it's kind of like you. If people can't handle you, of who you are, then find somebody else. That's it.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

But nobody's gonna have more fun with you than I would. I always say that. Nobody will make it as much fun as I can.

Robb (:

Yeah, right.

And look, I think that we're all a lot.

Tina M Garcia (:

There were supposed to be a lot.

Robb (:

in our own certain ways it's and I don't think that anything is is meant to be hurtful or said it's you know I've I've been told to my face that I was a lot I mean by someone that I really really cared about it was just like you're a lot

You know, pretty much called obsessive, which was kind of odd, but probably the truth at the time. So I think, you know, once you have time to sit back and think about what you've said to people, you know, you have to do the biggest thing in the world is look in the mirror. You also, you can't go throwing your

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

You know, you're too much in someone's face when you have to realize you're probably just as much the same.

Tina M Garcia (:

Well, and we oftentimes as people pick people that we mirror. So what we don't like about someone else is normally what we really don't like about ourselves. So who's really a lot at that part or at that point? I say you're running from a lot because it's you. It's you that's having the issues.

Robb (:

Right.

Robb (:

Right. I think it's funny too, because like I've ran into people, two people actually, that remind me a lot of my mom.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, yeah, that's gonna happen for the next like I don't even know how long

Robb (:

And it's funny because like people don't know how to take that because like I really didn't have a great relationship with my mom. But that's not why. Like I didn't have a, because when I was with my mom, my mom's great. But it's like certain things about these people that I was like, man, you're a lot like my mom. And, but they said the same thing for years about women that they try to find someone who's a lot like their dad.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mmm.

Robb (:

So, you know, there's a lot to be said about that. I know we're kind of going off the rails, but you know, that is it. And I think going into next year, I'm going to...

do my best with everyone to communicate much better instead of being a dick.

Tina M Garcia (:

What do you mean by being a dick? Because I don't see you really being a dick.

Robb (:

I can be. can, no, I can be. I just, I mean, me and you have a totally different relationship, I think that's why. I can be kind of a dick. I can kind of go into a shell, even though I can talk a lot. My thing too, I think with any kind of, you know, I haven't been around any kind of relationship in so long.

Tina M Garcia (:

Nah, I don't know. I don't agree with that.

Tina M Garcia (:

Right?

Robb (:

that I'm just not good at it. So, you know, I think, no, no, that's the truth. It's totally the truth.

Tina M Garcia (:

No No You're picking you're picking people that are are non-committal That are in situations. They shouldn't be in that have been drug through the mud that are that are broken that are You you're like No, you you know, you especially Are really a good person when when somebody needs you?

Robb (:

and we're all broke.

Tina M Garcia (:

when somebody needs something you're you're really good at being there and being supportive and being that one but it's almost like To me, I feel like you picked the impossible

Robb (:

I've always been told that I picked the wounded bird.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, but there's, you know, that doesn't make you a horrible person. That doesn't even make you a lot.

Robb (:

no, no, I am a lot for a lot of different reasons, without getting too deep into them, but I can be a lot.

Tina M Garcia (:

I agree you are but Those are those are the funny thing is those are Rob's ways That's that's that's the cool thing about it. Like Everybody says you're a lot, but I don't find you a lot. I I see you being Rob. I see you being You know this this person and and that's what makes you likeable. So fuck them if they say you're too much

Robb (:

I also think...

Robb (:

Well, and I also think that we're at an age now where you just take less shit

Tina M Garcia (:

Well, you know what, with all the shit you take, and I'm glad you're cutting back on that, you've taken a lot.

Robb (:

Do you know what I mean?

Robb (:

Yeah, no, but I mean in general. mean, I think just in general, like you just don't take as much shit anymore. And I mean from everything or just anything. It's like, I just don't take that anymore. It's like, or if someone's like, know, without kind of want to get like down any kind of political wormhole, but.

Tina M Garcia (:

No. Anybody.

Tina M Garcia (:

right?

Robb (:

Like I just don't like I'll go on my Facebook for shits and I see all this shit because I have a lot of friends who We don't agree politically So I'll see posts and I just roll my eyes now where in the past I'd be like hold on and I would fucking Just couldn't wait to stir the pot couldn't wait Like I enjoy it

Tina M Garcia (:

Okay.

Tina M Garcia (:

Well, sometimes you just got to. Let's start off with that. But other times, maybe you should let it run.

Robb (:

No, but you do, but I would always do it. Like, I had fun doing it. I like to make people angry. So.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

But I think that that has a lot to do with being a bad guy for 20 years in wrestling and that was my job to make people not like me. So my thing now is step back. That's my thing for the new year. Step back. I'm not going to engage in people's shit anymore. Like I, and at the end of the day, it's not up to me to, you know what I mean? Like.

Tina M Garcia (:

Right?

Robb (:

People have their own shit that they're not taking care of or they're not big enough to go, it's my fault. And it's a lot of people, but there's some that are just like, they'll talk mad shit, but don't look in the closet to see their own skeletons when it was your fucking fault in the first place. So go fuck yourself.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Right.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yes.

Robb (:

And that's where I kind of where I at for the new year. I'm just going to go. No more. I don't care what you say. Doesn't matter. You know, because you're part of the problem, too, that you won't even admit it to everyone else. So now not anymore. I'm I'm sick of being. The scapegoat to for people. No, I'm just not I'm just not going to do it anymore.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

Life's too short. I'm going to enjoy the people that I really want in my life. And I'm going to tell them that, yeah, you're the one I want in my life. And to the people who aren't in my life anymore, for whatever fucking reason, and there's either come say hi and awesome and let's be cordial or

Go fuck yourself. Like that's really it. There's not. Yeah, well, I won't have to. They'll know. Like, you know, I mean, because look, it's too short. Like, you know, if you got a good thing, fucking roll with it. If you don't. Like I said, the people in my life that are doing well, the people that I've had relations with over the last however long.

Tina M Garcia (:

I want to see you say go fuck yourself more

Tina M Garcia (:

Right?

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Two of them are married. So I think that the way I look at it now is they were supposed to meet me so they could meet the ones they were supposed to be with.

So whatever that means. And I'm happy for both. I don't even wanna, I'm super happy. So good for them. Say hi. And anything else? You know, it's a new year. We need to enjoy these years while we have them. Because there's, you know, we were talking the other day off air.

about like, you know, high school reunions are coming again and our 40th is coming soon. And I was wondering how many people are gonna be dead now. I know it's morbid, but there's, we're getting to the age where there is going to be quite a few. And it's gonna be wild stuff where we didn't see it coming. So, you know, I think looking on it,

Tina M Garcia (:

Noooo

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, there could be quite a few.

Robb (:

You know, live. I'm gonna live. I'm gonna tell everybody how I feel. And if they wanna be in my life, cool. If they don't, you know, good on you. Because, too short. I wanna have good times, you know. There's nothing better than time with people. Some of the best time.

Tina M Garcia (:

Hell yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

Hell yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

especially people you don't have to convince they should be around you but people that actually want to be around you absolutely

Robb (:

Absolutely, some of the best times i've had in the last year have been eating with people in their houses or off of barbecue Actually the last two years Best times I mean and i've gone to concerts which were good too but I mean a lot of the time has just been sitting

Tina M Garcia (:

Right.

Robb (:

interacting with somebody. Best times I've had in last two years. And I'm going to do that going forward. That's, I want more of that. I want more of, hey, yeah, because it's...

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm. Being in the moment.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah.

I want to see that.

Robb (:

That's it. So that's gonna be my thing for the new year. And it's gonna be also with my kid and his girlfriend. We had a good time over Thanksgiving and over Christmas. She came down both times. It was awesome. So I'm trying to enjoy all that kind of time, because I know that's gonna go away.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah, it is.

Robb (:

This year, me and the kid, think we're going to spend some time cooking steaks and eating baked potatoes and having people over that mean the most to us. What about you? What's your thing for the new year?

Tina M Garcia (:

That's awesome.

I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing, because I'm pretty damn fantastic these days on my own, in my own head. like, you know what? I don't need anybody's acceptance. I don't give a shit what people have to say anymore. I've come to realize that I got me and I could do this. Like I'm not somebody that's a weak bird that's gonna have.

You any sort of issues. I don't know why I said weakbergs don't think that but like, know, somebody that can't handle my shit. I think I got it now, you know, I'm I'm cool with who I am in my own Body in my own person. I'm really liking me these days Still a little bit bad shit crazy still do a few things and I'm like really teen Did you really need to do that? But yes, I did

Robb (:

Hmm?

Tina M Garcia (:

Because if I have to have a deathbed and I'm laying on it and I don't have some good fucking stories, then I'm doing something wrong. And that's just what I'm claiming. I'm just gonna have fun. And if it's a mistake, well, nobody's gonna die. And if it comes out to be something miraculous, then fuck yeah, I did it. I'm just gonna own it and have fun. Yeah.

Robb (:

Totally and and at the end of next year, we'll be talking about the good bad and the ugly and hopefully there's more good than bad and and Everyone's lives around us have moved forward for the best That's it That's it, you know, I mean right now it's me and my dog and my kid That's it

Tina M Garcia (:

Right?

there is.

Tina M Garcia (:

for whatever they needed to do. Yeah.

Tina M Garcia (:

You know what? Right now it's just me, Rob. It's just me. Like, I don't have anything. I've chose to not have anything. I wanted, I've been wanting to get a dog, but I'm like, no, you don't want a dog. I want, you know, want to be in a relationship, but I don't want to be in a relationship. I, what's that? Right? And I got a good life. Like my life is good. It's not bad. mean,

Robb (:

Yeah, that's perfect.

Robb (:

It's a lot of work.

Robb (:

a lot of work. Both of those were a lot of work.

Robb (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Am I living exactly the way that I want to be in every way, shape or form? No, but if life was perfect, then what the hell am I doing here? So.

Robb (:

Right, yeah. I agree. I mean, look, I think that we're in two totally different places in life, I think, because you've only been divorced a little bit. Yeah, I've been divorced, like, this will be 16 or 17 years. So for me, I think it's like, I want a relationship, but it's work. And

Tina M Garcia (:

Fisher five years or three years.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

It's work.

Robb (:

And you know, I love my dog, but man, he's work. Like, it's a lot of work. Like, I, yeah. I'm up at 5 a.m. He's at the park with me. I mean, I take care of my dog. But he's a great dog. I can't complain. He loves people. But these are the things that we have to enjoy.

Tina M Garcia (:

You get up even when it's raining to have to take him out. That's a B.A.S.

Tina M Garcia (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Like I said, enjoy the people that are around you. Don't let them get away from you. And our friend who doesn't live far from you, they even said to me, you should come out and meet Teen and we'll go get food. And I was like, cool. I was like, yeah. And I was like, I told him, go, let's do GGs. And she's like,

Tina M Garcia (:

I want to do that.

Robb (:

all right, that sounds, know, know them. They're like, okay. I was like, perfect. So yeah, yeah, I'll talk to them. mean, yeah, I mean, and I have a few more weeks of shoulder time. So we'll, I have exactly.

Tina M Garcia (:

I'm all about it. Set it up. Let's go. Because I got got time. Well, as long as my dad stays healthy, I got time.

Tina M Garcia (:

So you got nothing but time to go do ChiChi's with us.

Robb (:

Who's going to not go get pasta and bread? It's the best thing in the world.

Tina M Garcia (:

Yeah. And be entertained by three of the funniest people ever. Like all three of us together are stupid.

Robb (:

Ugh.

yeah, that table is going to be loud. We're going to get in trouble. look, enjoy, enjoy what we have left of this year. And if you're listening to this on New Year's Eve, you only have hours. enjoy whatever meal you're having tonight and, and drink responsibly because, yeah, I plan on it. I plan on

Tina M Garcia (:

Right?

Tina M Garcia (:

police.

Robb (:

thinking very responsibly and probably a lot.

Tina M Garcia (:

Well, if you wanna come over, we're gonna be here.

Robb (:

Yeah, I'll have to see. You know me. I don't like driving. Yeah, but then I, you know, I here's the funny thing. I talk about doing that. I'll go to bed at midnight and I'll still be up at five to take my dog to the park the next morning. So, you know, I'm a I'm a nut. But yeah, so. Yeah, so and I mean, I don't know. I say that now, but you're right. I could be at your place or I could be, you know, down the street. I mean, me and the kid, we can walk to a bar.

Tina M Garcia (:

I know, you can always stay.

Tina M Garcia (:

Responsible dog owner, gotta love ya.

Robb (:

Like it's right around the corner and there's a really good Mexican food place literally around the corner from eating that has some of the best margaritas ever. They're so good. Me and a friend and him and his girlfriend went there one night and all of us had two each and eight. And when we walked home, I was like, holy shit.

I was a happy camper. Happy happy. So yeah, it's a good place to if you ever come this way, we'll it's actually they have really good tacos too. They have good Mexican food. So anyway, people enjoy your evening. And you know, let's make this next year the best we can squash it with people that you that you, you know, have issues with and and move forward.

Tina M Garcia (:

Nice.

Tina M Garcia (:

I'm in. Let's do it.

Tina M Garcia (:

or let go of it so you don't have to carry it in the next year.

Robb (:

That's it. There you go. just so you know, team and I'll say it on the air, you know that we're pushing 10,000 downloads. We got about we got about 300 more. So soon enough, soon enough. And look, you can check us out on the social media. I've been doing way better. I've been posting. I've been I've been doing well. And.

Tina M Garcia (:

Hmm.

Tina M Garcia (:

Nice.

Tina M Garcia (:

Thank you.

Robb (:

And look, it's the Pinnion Show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. I'm Rob, that's Tina. We'll see you next year. Bye.

Tina M Garcia (:

Happy New Year!

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