The Fellowship Of The Reel reviews 16 BLOCKS

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Snyder's Genres:

MONSTER IN THE HOUSE - MONSTER, HOUSES, SIN

GOLDEN FLEECE - ROAD, TEAM, PRIZE

OUT OF THE BOTTLE - A WISH, A SPELL, A LESSON

DUDE WITH A PROBLEM - AN INNOCENT HERO, A SUDDEN EVENT, A TEST OF SURVIVAL

RITE OF PASSAGE - A LIFE PROBLEM, THE WRONG WAY TO FIX IT, THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM

BUDDY LOVE - AN INCOMPLETE HERO, A COUNTERPART NEEDED TO MAKE THEIR LIFE WHOLE, A COMPLICATION THAT IS KEEPING THEM APART EVEN THOUGH THAT FORCE IS BINDING THEM TOGETHER

WHYDUNNIT? - A DETECTIVE, A SECRET, A DARK TURN

FOOL TRIUMPHANT - A FOOL, AN ESTABLISHMENT, A TRANSMUTATION

INSTITUTIONALIZED - A GROUP, A CHOICE, A SACRIFICE (JOIN, BURN IT DOWN, COMMIT SUICIDE)

SUPERHERO - A POWER, A NEMESIS, A CURSE

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The Snyder Beats:

OPENING IMAGE

THEME STATED

SETUP

CATALYST

DEBATE

BREAK INTO TWO

B STORY

FUN AND GAMES

MIDPOINT (FALSE VICTORY OR DEFEAT BUT OPPOSITE OF THE ALL IS LOST)

BAD GUYS CLOSE IN

ALL IS LOST (OPPOSITE OF THE MIDPOINT, FALSE VICTORY OR DEFEAT)

DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL

BREAK INTO THREE

gathering the team

executing the plan

high tower surprise

dig deep down

execution of the new plan

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i believe that no one sets out to make a bad movie with the exception of

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on paper this should work i just don't like it that's your own fault if you haven't

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seen it way over budget start cutting scenes

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which i love the title with that movie's trash [Music] well it's oatmeal man it's good for you

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okay we are fellowship of the rio four friends talking about movies this time uh the first four episodes we

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thought we would do a tribute to mr bruce willis if you have heard our previous episodes

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or if you are a movie fan you may know that he has been diagnosed with a debilitating mental disorder and

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probably will not be among us or making movies anymore so we thought we would start off with a tribute of sorts uh

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each of us pick one movie by bruce willis uh most notably we have not picked die

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hard we thought that that deserved a episode all on its own and it does but we did pick four bruce willis movies

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ne uh was my pick and it is a: 2006

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we'll start off with the synopsis uh and box office uh the synopsis reads an

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aging alcoholic cop is assigned the task of escorting a witness from police custody to a courthouse 16 blocks away

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there are however chaotic forces at work that prevent them from making it in one piece fairly decent summary i guess

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that's essentially what the movie's about this is a an action flick it had a budget of 52 million uh and it

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grows 65 million so it just made its money back nothing uh astounding it didn't uh bomb

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at the box office but uh just made his money back which i guess made everybody happy but not happy enough to

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really get crazy about because it seems to have had a lackluster reception from both the critics

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and the audience critic score on tomato meter is 56 with the audience being just a little

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higher at 57 to me that was kind of surprising because i really really really like this

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movie and we can get into to why here in a little while as we break it down but to me

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those scores uh are not indicative of how good i think this movie is chris may have a different view on this

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but i i was hard-pressed to figure out exactly what kind of genre this this

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movie was in terms of fake snyder's genre so i had i have three listed and i'm not

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entirely sure which one it really is because i can see it being any one of these

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uh the first one i picked was a golden fleece movie which is a road trip movie which involves a road a team and a and a prize

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uh certainly the road is the 16 blocks the team is bruce willis and uh

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most deaf and then the prize of course is the culmination of them being able to achieve their goal and and so on and so

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forth the other one and i i suspect this may be the one uh that it really is is dude with a

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problem and innocent a sudden event and then life or death i could see that being put in there and then also buddy

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love an incomplete hero a counterpart and a complication and i suspect that if i was

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hard-pressed it would either be due to the problem or buddy love but i i sure can see it being a road movie yeah i think it's

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i think it's um i probably have to go with buddy love because yeah but the the golden police um yeah so they they go i

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guess 16 blocks on the road a little bit but the two of them is not a team in my opinion that's not enough people right

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yeah and then the prize has to be um i think material like something's actually more yeah like uh

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okay because there's a lot of because they talk about the uh blake snyder talks about the sports sports fleece

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right so that's winning the championship i got a title all right um even in star wars it's golden police but it's getting

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the death star planes it's got to be something you can hold on to okay not that there's not character growth in those stories but no no right so what

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are you saying a dude with a problem or buddy love i think somebody loved because my issue would do with the problem is it talks about an innocent

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yeah he's he's far from innocent no no so we uh we learned quite uh

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we learned that he is not he even says i am not a good guy eddie is mining his own business um

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he could argue that most characters run in their own business when the catalyst oh yeah i think it's pretty low okay so

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then we'll go with that because i have that as as because they also because i think they it's a lot of body levels are

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two-handers like they're each other's b stories and they change where i think that rings true here yeah i did find the

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structure interesting in the sense that the opening and this and this is how i i saw it the opening image

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is really uh what i'm calling a midpoint or a false defeat it may even be a dark

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night of the soul or or whatever when we get to that point i was confused by nowhere you're going now yeah so the

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movie opens bruce willis is on a bus this is my last will and testament they're going to come to you

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and they're going to tell you some things audrey and what they're telling you is not true you know i just i was just trying to do

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a little good or whatever so essentially at that point we flash back and so the first half of the movie is essentially

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almost like a flashback right because we are in the past yeah working our way back to the present and

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then from there on we go into the rest of the story or whatever so i have it i think i think i

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labeled it as a as the midpoint but going through it it could be like bad guys close in or okay or whatever yeah i

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think i have that moment as always lost um like later on when we okay i i'd like

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to say so since we're kind of getting unstarted we're just getting started with it uh obviously this movie stars bruce willis in it uh but the co-star in

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this uh the guy's name is most death yeah we did skip all of that he's uh he's been an actor in a lot of things

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he's also a hip-hop artist so he's been very prevalent some of his first stuff goes back to the late 80s so he's been

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lots of stuff i think here recently the movie before this one was hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy yeah okay i've seen

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him i've seen him tonight uh you know just his imdb goes on and on uh most notably where i first saw him was

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chappelle show he's you know he was a character actor on those things he's been in a lot more stuff than i

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thought the italian job oh i've seen that too monster's ball he's been in a lot of stuff so

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i thought this was his first thing i didn't even saw this movie but he's been in the game a long time he really carries his weight in this

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movie yeah he does a really good job you know he is absolutely his motivation he's just an innocent guy who saw a

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thing and he just wants to tell the truth yeah and evil forces if you will come across to

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him and then you got your bruce willis uh stacked up against the main i guess you would call him main

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antagonist yeah uh that guy's played by david morse i like him he's been in a lot of great stuff yeah i like his

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attitude and his lines in this movie yeah there's a there's just a there's a lot of character actors in this you know you've seen their face before

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but you don't know what else they're in yeah but this guy green mile hurt locker

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contact 12 monkeys you know his disturb you yeah he's one of these guys where you've seen his face you may not

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have heard his name yeah good character definitely character actor so he's a solid villain in this yeah solid villain

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one of the one of the bad cops was he's also uh on the netflix show bloodline he plays one of the sheriffs

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or whatever one of the guys one of the many guys that bruce willis handcuffs to a pole and takes his gun but

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yeah from uh dexter as well yeah yep absolutely yeah as soon as you start saying it i was like oh yeah yeah yeah i

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like him a lot yeah i mean those and he's sort of a background guy in this but but yeah there's a lot of but most

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definitely like okay so as i was looking at this like his uh his performance got like uh an award at the

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razzies or something for most annoying dialogue or most annoying voice but i

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he's got a voice that takes some getting used to yeah but i i it annoyed the hell out of me the first time in less this

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time but the first time i saw this movie like those one things i was dreading when i was like oh no no 16 blocks i got

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to deal with this voice again i was totally on board this i i don't know why i just i really like his

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yeah sorry i didn't rotate you know i just like his performance in this well his performance is awesome and it's very much um

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to i guess what annoyed me less this time and again i guess maybe went into watching it with the intent of analyzing

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it more than i did the first time his performance and his character is very rain man-esque sure um and i didn't pick

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up on that at all the first time so that to me allowed to not be as annoyed as much because he's got kind of some

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issues or whatever you want to go but yeah but his voice still you annoyed me the you know jack mosley taking a lot of birthday a lot of money birthday cakes

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you know little mike tyson yeah exactly yeah that's the new york they were it was set in new york correct

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i think it was set in new york british in uh toronto or some canadians said i can't remember ontario maybe i

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can't remember but it was supposed to be new york but i don't think it was new york nice okay well uh so obviously this

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was directed by richard donner yes lots of credits if you don't if you're listening to this in your

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movie fan you know superman superman movies the originals uh the goonies let the weapons scrooged radio

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fly just my favorite on here probably the one i've watched the most is probably conspiracy theory yeah that one's very

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good dude yeah i knew him from some of my favorite movies but i was not aware that a lot of the movies i liked were also richard dawn yeah

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so you know i think i don't know if this is one of his top movies that's my favorite it's

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definitely a good movie i think this one stands out as a little bit different than the other movies just the way the

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story goes the acting in it i think this stands out as some of his best work but maybe not his most well-known work right

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so i'm definitely a fan of it yeah we talked about you know i guess i'm income that i you know kind of pre-ranked these

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before we started watching them um i had seen everything but blind date um and in my head 16 blocks was going to be the

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one that i was going to enjoy the least because i'd watched it before and thought oh you know it was all right and i don't feel like there's a whole lot

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going on there um and then yeah blind date was obviously takes the cake on being the worst um and then yeah there's

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so much more going on in this movie that i didn't notice oh yeah no i i uh so yeah i when when we had a lot of stuff

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that i didn't see before first time i watched this i watched it with my girlfriend and

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you know you watch movies like oh i know how this is gonna go and she had mentioned oh they get there everything's happy in the end i'm like

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oh this is a little weird because that's not how it ends yeah yeah and so her her going into it with that is just

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going to be a normal storm story structure because she doesn't know anything about that stuff sure she just knows how it's going to go and the i

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wouldn't say it's a twist at the ending but it's an unexpected ending yeah right so uh even she got it wrong she was

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i kept bugging him i'm gonna just tell me dude they make it to the corner just tell me aren't they gonna are they what

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is he really gonna i mean uh just on and on the whole movie so she was actually like harping on my side i said please

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tell me he wouldn't tell me yeah of course not this is your first time seeing it when you're watching it together for this okay yes oh yes

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spoiler alert they don't make it well uh okay there is an alternate ending to

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this movie uh okay on the disc okay so there's the theatrical ending and this is the ending that was actually written

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and that they filmed but then they went back and thought well maybe it should be this way and i've watched that alternate

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ending and it is garbage they have made they made the completely correct choice

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in how they ended this movie and the alternate version how does that end okay so in the

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alternate his partner uh frank or whatever the david morris david morris the big heavy right

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they're pursuing him the whole movie right so you still have the scene at the end with him going up in the elevator and and and

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this kind of thing going to testify and when in the ending it is is now david morris gets on the

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the intercom and says uh he's on his way up take him out well in the alternate ending they they

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said they wanted to create more empathy so david morris gets on there and says stand down forget it we've lost

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and either someone doesn't get that message or decides that they're not gonna do it and

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kills bruce willis so so so uh jack mosley dies and the only evidence they

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have then is that tape recorder but they're still able to bust him but because he's got his tape recorder and

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the letter that that eddie sends in the cake and everything they rewrote that letter and it is nowhere near as

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heart-rending and and intimate as the letter that is read in the current ending uh endearing and friendly and

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interesting uh it is totally from the word go unsatisfying and i'm sure it tested audiences that way and so they

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decided not to do it yeah it sounds like it yeah the there just forget that there's an alternate ending because it should not exist the way they ended that

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movie is absolutely the correct way uh that they they should have well cool

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you want to get into it yeah yeah so you have your your opening image actually being the

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the at the bus or whatever like when he's hey this is my last will and testament because i guess for me i've since then well i think it's a prologue

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device i went ahead and did like his opening image before all that happens yes i i i think that that is the

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midpoint i don't think that's the opening yeah okay uh so what's your opening image then my opening image is

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so so it sums him up perfectly but there's the the apartment scene you know somebody has to watch bust yeah

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as a drug bust and somebody has to watch the apartment and and one of the characters who's actually on blue bloods now sherry said that's the that's one of

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the guys on blue bloods he's older now but anyway says who's downstairs we don't need and of course i miss that it's jack

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he comes walking up with a you know half full coffee his opening image is he's an alcoholic

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man so he pours out his coffee scans this drug dealer's apartment until he finds a bottle of booze

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and sits on the couch and pours straight liquor turns on the air conditioner yeah i no like i guess what i wrote down was

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deadbeat with dead bodies like yeah this guy is such a deadbeat and so like disconnected and just dead inside and

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dead with life that it being around dead bodies doesn't bother him he searches other cabinets he turns on

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the ac he reads their paper like i very much got the impression this guy's done this once or twice and it doesn't bother

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him at all he just wants his booze and reads his paper and he was on his way home and they stopped him and said hey we gotta yeah later in a few minutes

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yeah later they i didn't squawk it you want me with some dead people nothing none of that no just yeah well i i i

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wrote down something similar jack's sitting amongst the dead waiting essentially the walking dead you know he's just

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yeah uh i don't at some point i became so enamored of this movie that maybe i started seeing

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things that weren't there so you you tell me if i'm going off the rails his name is mosley and i don't think that means anything except that it

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sounds like mosey just sort of shuffling through life i don't know that that i don't think

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that's intentionally yeah mosley mosley i think that's me reading stuff into it in retrospect but jack mosley um one of

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the one of the cool little trivia things is uh to film those bruce willis would put a pebble in his shoe and walk with

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that limp oh nice to go he did that the whole for that character's motivation i guess and then and and so keep you free

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from forgetting you know and hey rose weren't you really the other leg last time yeah yeah

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part of the uh opening image i thought it was interesting because there's a scene where so after that he's walking back to

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his office and he's in the hallway i didn't notice it the first time but the second time like he's that guy

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he he he's going to his office and he actually passes off his door because he's just done such a hazing

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shuffling he has turn around and go back to his door because like his door's here and a couple inches down he goes to

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another door that's not his and has to go back but he's walking down the hall and that young younger or this this really fit and you

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could tell by his face this this this no-nonsense fit cop passes him in the hall and bruce willis

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sort of looks up at him or whatever it's the contrast right so this is his opening image he is the alcoholic past

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his prime down and out cop and and and he's being passed by i feel like i even made a face um like bruce willis smelled

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you know like you almost smell the alcohol on him because later on most definitely has a most definitely most

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stuff as a comment don't worry hey man you you don't smell good you know he doesn't well he goes to the secretary

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and the first thing the secretary does is don't have a pack of uh tic tacs yeah which okay so we'll talk about he shakes it

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you know yeah yeah but at the end hey be careful when he pulls it out and he's tick tick tick so it's a bookend of

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the tic tacs at the beginning those tic tacs i'll be to cover up his breath sure to cover up

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his breath at the end but when he's shaking those tick tacks at the end of the movie he's not the same guy shaking those attacks at the beginning

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so i thought that was a nice sort of callback there's just all kinds of references of him screwing up his paperwork and he's got the lick there's

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like three or four references right off the bat to him getting alcohol right yeah so this is this we are

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without a doubt who this guy is in the setup in the opening image or whatever any other

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okay i thought the theme stated so uh and then we're introduced to the clicking talk uh clicking talk

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clicking ticking clock [ __ ] clock uh 118 minutes to get 16 blocks right is

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the initial and there are i didn't count them but i i wrote them down but i didn't count how many there every

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several minutes there's a reference every several scenes there's a reference to the clock to how many blocks they've

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come nice uh so there is a constant reminder of this ticking clock and distance throughout the movie which

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i thought was pretty good it stayed on it the theme stated i think i think

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came fairly early right it's almost mystical right because eddie will talk about there are signs

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everywhere this might the story he keeps telling is about uh it helps you decide where you

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are in your life being at the right place at the time you believe that you believe in that so this whole movie is about being where

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you're supposed to be and bruce willis at this time uh jack mosley at this time is not where he's supposed to be and

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later he'll say some things that sort of reinforce that but yeah the theme is you know are you where you're supposed to be you

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should be where you're supposed to be things happen for a reason and there's you could argue that he is where he's supposed to be by

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saying yeah i think yes because he's well he said additionally he's the wrong guy jack all

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right you are the one that's like you make life longer and this kind of thing wouldn't you say that

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the the main premise of that movie is him dealing with the sins of his past for sure and that's why he's miserable

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and he's in the right place yeah he was not at the right place yeah yeah where he should have been

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as a corrupt cop or whatever yeah because of what he had done previously he was one of those cops yeah so i had some of that written down uh similar

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stuff but also had uh people don't change like he says that at one point i think brazil says that people don't change and then you know like that's a i

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mean it's both of them change right they're both trying to change their life and and obviously most deaths closer to being he's already on that road yeah

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already on that road where bruce willis has to get on that road yeah and his movie um but like he even comes back at

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the the bus scene you said people don't change and you know it's uh you're killing me but anyhow um you're killing

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me yeah yeah yeah right and he gives all these references to to the people that chuck berry and other people to change and i like how the

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their names are on the cake at the end well there's the scene and i didn't catch it the first time and again i think this is

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intentional okay uh i do believe this is attention and stuff it's not something you might ever notice but obviously jack mosley is a

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corrupt cop that's part of the problem he was with these other cops fixing cases or whatever and i noticed that so

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when jack mosley is at his office right there at the beginning and he's throwing the empty in the drawer or whatever well

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it's either as he sits down as he stands up there's all that bulletin board behind him and right

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right behind jack is a sign that's i'm sure it's about reporting corruption

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or whatever you know in the workplace but all you see is the word corruption yeah nice right behind his head and i

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i'm like that's that's intentional that's got it yeah it's cool that it's a sign too because there's sounds everywhere designs everywhere right so

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these are all especially after watching this movie i'm like man richard donner yes sir you know

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right uh i i think all this stuff is intentional and there's some more of it but yeah i i noticed that i was like

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yeah you know yeah even the i guess on the the theme of change like um being reborn and and and you know like

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he eddie is interested in uh making cake specifically birthday cakes birthday cakes like it could have been anything

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it could have been you know making donuts or something right or any other profession but it's it's you know and

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the whole thing about him not knowing his birthday right he didn't know his real birthday was today he really wrote your birthday i think today really is

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his birthday um like i mean he's being reborn that day so is jack oh yeah oh yeah all the stuff about you know

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birthday cakes yeah birthdays are new beginning yeah absolutely 100 uh i thought that was uh

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a choice you know uh so there was this and again i don't know but it has to be a conscious choice

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because it kept being brought into frame so i think there's these symbols of change right and i and i could never

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decide what what kind it was but two or three times brought into frame is that bird flapping

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on the dashboard of that bad guy's van with the flapping wings now i don't know how you want to phrase that but there's

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no reason to waste a shot on that unless you're trying to tell us something and i think it's a symbol i

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i wanted to say it was an albatross for the sake of you know you have an albatross around your neck which is a symbol of something dragging you down i

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don't know it's in the bad guys though right a son in his yes dashboard right the guy's in the van yes that

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first try to take him out yes but it's it's it's got flapping wings i don't know if that's a symbol of you

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know taking flight or you know free as a bird or i don't know but for some reason

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donner on two or three different occasions wanted to bring that bird into frame yeah maybe yeah i mean to me i

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guess i thought when i just saw it i didn't put i guess much stock in what it was yeah um i thought it was more of

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just him establishing kind of where we're at that okay the bad guys are in a van that has this you know but it could

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have been a bobble head it could have been anything right so yeah that's what i'm saying that's what we're setting up but yeah i mean he didn't make it a bobble head maybe it is now yeah and so

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i have no way of like i said i i started seeing the signs everywhere right you know

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right i don't know you know i i did think it was interesting and and and most staff does this later

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when jack mosley is checking mos def out right uh eddie the cop is standing there and there's a boxing match on the

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television in the background a boxing match right later in in his sister's apartment when he's

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getting his gun or whatever ma steph goes in the bathroom and i guess he's trying to psych himself up but he's doing

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the boxing and i'm like okay well see this is this has got to be intentional it's they're in a fight for their lives they're in a

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boxing match with you know evil forces or whatever you know so so so all this sort of

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like i'm just like yeah you know if if you're gonna film this take the time and the forethought

23:37

to put stuff in there that the audience may never see but that you know reinforces your you know these nuances i just thought it

23:44

was woven and intricate and i just i thought you know this is this is great you know i'm seeing stuff you

23:49

know and then of course it doesn't help that he says there are signs everywhere but i think i think but i think he it has to

23:55

be intentional what yeah because because you're framing your set you're taking the time to put a television in there finding a a clip of

24:02

a boxing match right probably having to get rights to it i mean you know saying so yeah you know yeah so signs

24:08

everywhere sign sign signs he says and that's why i said the movie is almost mystical at this point being worsh being

24:14

where you're supposed to be do you believe in that and then there's this so there's lots of symbols but there's

24:19

early on there's a big contrast and callback two or three times almost every time that they reference

24:25

mosley's alcohol they also reference uh eddie's cookbook right so eddie is

24:32

eddie is after that cookbook he will not leave without that cookbook as much as jack wants that bottle you know yeah

24:39

these are their what they're clinging to you know gotcha you know those are the things they need to drag through the movie with them yes

24:45

uh one needs to click you know cling to it and and the other needs to let it go or whatever exactly you know yeah i also

24:52

thought it was interesting unless i missed something when we're introduced to bruce willis like everyone that he encounters is asking

24:58

something of him you know hey jack we need you to come up here and do this with you know babysit these bodies we you know hey zach uh jack where's your

25:05

report you know all that stuff they're asking things of him the first when he meets uh uh one eddie bunker and writes

25:12

his death's name when he meets him he that's the first characters that ask him if he's okay instead of asking something of

25:17

him they're asking how he is hey man are you okay yeah you look too good like it's it's a very much a contrast to

25:23

everybody else yeah that is true yeah you know you look pretty depressed or something most people want to love to be right

25:29

so they get they get signed out and he's he's asking i need my book and i was supposed to get a suit in a gray suit

25:36

three-piece suit nice buttons here yes a lot is made of of clothes whatever

25:42

he needs to suit because he needs to change correct right right yeah yeah and then i like later on i mean when he gets

25:48

his suit because the way he gets the suit is to get out of it bruce willis comes up with the i'm going to disguise you as a hostage yeah put on this suit

25:54

and the even though he's a nice guy he's like he didn't know jack at the beginning right when he first is that it

26:00

happened earlier in the movie i don't know that he would go and gone back to save jack but he puts it all together they're gonna yeah i'm free but they're

26:05

gonna kill jack yeah right yeah so he goes back in his in his suit right so he has changed once he gets his suit he's

26:11

he's changed and he's back he's the man he was meant to become now he needs to help yeah he he couldn't get sue earlier

26:17

on because he hadn't earned it yet right yeah and then so must have got you know any middle of

26:22

time or whatever when he stops just before the yeah he goes in to get alcohol yes for the 16 block trip and

26:28

then the whole time the um i got something very important i was supposed to do i got some very important yeah

26:33

yeah he wanted to get to court do his thing and because he's gone because he's got to be at the port authority by noon because he's got

26:39

the 35 000. for a long time i thought it was the court appointment but he had to get the 10 and 12. yeah yeah so jack goes into this liquor

26:46

store any million times he goes into and he knows the people by name right yeah and he knows the bartender later on

26:52

he knows all the stuff he knows them all but he buys the bottle and it's like 17.50 well apparently he hands them probably a 20. and they say do you want

26:59

the change no i don't want the change oh nice i missed it well maybe i better take the change i might need it and that's just a

27:06

throwaway line but no it isn't i believe it isn't yeah that's cool you know i think that's that way yeah i don't want

27:11

the change well maybe i better take the change i might need it right you know at that point in the story too he's he's

27:17

being forced he's at the threshold of the change in the story yeah yeah no i don't want the change but change is

27:23

literally in your car yeah yeah yeah you're on your way to it yeah because when when he's given the task he

27:28

actually says and she got some mutt to do this this is how he's viewed as the mutt right right

27:34

i don't want to change i just thought well you could have said anything there but you said that you had the character

27:40

say that so i i just i think that's nuanced right i think it's i think it's just it all if you can have a line that

27:47

doesn't contribute to theme or a line that does a good writer director is going to go with the line that does you know yeah

27:53

yeah because you you they could have had them just buy it and you never even hear the about the exchange of money and stuff yeah right he just wanted the

27:59

alcohol he don't care about the change but you know there it is i do like how those guys attack at that moment right

28:05

and try to kill mo stuff while he's in there buying his alcohol and everything we've seen up to this point leads us to

28:10

believe most that's going to die yes oh yes the wrong guy the source he's more interesting

28:16

and i like the reveal that he shoots him or whatever from behind and yeah you hear the gunshot you're like oh he's

28:21

dead oh he's dead and then his head even sherry was like yeah i thought that and when i was standing there and bruce will seem surprised this character

28:27

surprised that he did it yeah i like how that's all right there's more to this guy than the alcohol he was not always

28:32

right i think he is yeah right yeah yeah you better give me that change i'm gonna i'm gonna need that yes he said you better give me that change i'm gonna

28:38

need that i'm like okay absolutely yeah so so now that now the hunt is on it's why are these guys

28:45

trying to kill you what did you see what did you yeah so i have that as as sort of the setup and the catalyst being a

28:51

hidden eddie is stopped by jack right that's what i have bottles in the attack room and then the debate is

28:57

yeah kind of what are they doing when they the david morris and the other cops cornered them corner mosley and and

29:03

eddie in the bar yes and he you know more stocks them basically and you know do what you usually do jack you

29:08

do what you always do yeah you do what you always do yeah that's it yeah um yeah i feel like that's the debate absolutely as soon as he shoots the guy

29:14

that's about to kill execute steph that's his break in the table yeah soon he's not going to look away this time and i think it's i mean it's to me

29:21

it works because everybody knows what it means they hit him the bottle and he puts it down

29:27

right when he puts that bottle down it's on right like you usually do yeah yeah he's not going to act like yeah and so yeah

29:35

absolutely debate because he's watching and he knows that that that eddie gets

29:40

real quiet when those guys come in and now bruce was like okay what's going on here and as he's learning he you could

29:46

see him mentally debating yeah like that was all visual yes taking frank's offer or not taking frank's offer and you know

29:53

of course he he takes frank's offer and and i think at that when he leaves that bar he's into the second act oh for

30:00

sure yeah so do you do you think they're in that conversations that we're having uh when eddie because eddie's most deaf

30:07

when he saw his reaction and figured out oh he's involved yeah

30:12

implicating these guys did he know i i'm part of that too and what i'm doing sitting this aside and going to help him

30:19

because at that point he knew most f was going to be testifying against oh yeah i think i think

30:24

based on his decision at the end i think this has been eating at him yeah the auntie isn't down he's so miserable yeah

30:29

yeah uh and this is his channel and then he's not gonna because he later on he'll confess about the the guy who you stuck

30:35

his gun in his mouth the old man had a heart attack he was going to take down our case this is not our case this is a repeat of

30:41

that and he's he in his mind he can't let that happen again right uh but yes i think and i think at that point on some

30:48

level he is that because because uh frank you know whatever says uh you go

30:54

out that door i can't help you you and and to me it was brilliant he says you go out that door everything changes i

30:59

said yeah because it's the second act everything will change is you you snub the door too you talk about that yeah

31:04

another door i i i i printed this out man i was blown away by this right okay so so the door is

31:11

physically the second act but then i notice what's on the wall it's a dos equis beer sign right okay so yeah so he

31:18

goes to the door turning his back on alcohol and it's two x's dose second act two x's

31:24

that's nice this is me reading too much into and i'm like you can add any beer sign right well they also didn't have to

31:30

corner them in a bar either sure then that adds to that turning his back on alcohol yes

31:37

yeah it could have been anything it could have been but just just in that just there there are four references to the theme and story right

31:43

the second i i i circled it i was like i'm that's being said i don't care who you are that's

31:49

that's that's right that's pretty good yeah if you can have a budweiser sign or a dos equis and you're saying this is he

31:56

is accepting the call right that uh how can that not be i don't know i want that to

32:02

be intentional man you know it probably is yeah i mean from what i've learned of youtube

32:08

talking about movies nothing on screen should be accidental shouldn't everything is placed correctly

32:14

everything is what you're doing yeah yeah so everything you see on film meant to be there uh and

32:20

especially with somebody like donner i would think yeah seasoned veteran really yeah

32:26

yeah so this so now i think we're in the the act ii right so and and i think uh frank actually says

32:32

you know again there's constant reminders of the clock but he actually says at some point the clock is ticking

32:38

clock's ticking you know whatever reminding the audience that this is going to be almost a real-time kind of situation

32:44

where yeah i wrote a note for funny games you own 16 blocks in new york in 90 minutes so yeah i don't i guess maybe

32:49

there was a reference to 90 minutes or something somewhere around there when i wrote that i guess right yes because initially it's 118 minutes yeah then i

32:56

think at some point maybe it comes 90 at some point it becomes seven blocks at some point you see

33:02

a clock that says like nine o'clock so you know they have an hour and then at some point at the very end and there's

33:07

probably others there's you see a clock and it's like five till ten when the jury's going to get out so that the clock almost every

33:14

couple of scenes is brought into into frame or whatever so now they've exited the bar yeah and i

33:20

just wrote down all the fun and games you know the the various shootouts and and this kind of thing what was the next scene after the bar they go

33:27

first stop is his sister's apartment the ruse that catches jack and eddie a fish the i guess his name is bob this

33:34

is where they uh handcuff one of the detectives yes okay kid you know he's in there talking

33:40

and you know and this happened several times that showing that that jack may be a drunk but at some point he was a very

33:46

clever investigator and detective because he uh it almost started becoming a running

33:51

joke almost that everybody who's chasing jack is going to be handcuffed to a pole and have their gun taken at some point by jack right

33:58

you know and even even frank the the main bad guy at some point gets his

34:04

you know because and it's a great line they're coming down after the apartment or whatever and the bad guy thinks that he's

34:10

one-upped him finally you know can't be lucky every day and then most def well yeah but he could be smart every day you

34:15

know right right i was like yeah and that's jack right yeah you gave him a gun yeah you get you gave him a letter

34:21

gun you know all right i mean i don't know where it's at but somewhere in there the david morris has a good line

34:28

about because there's always references to him doing what he always does right and now he's not doing that yeah i

34:34

remember if he's talking to the to the police chief or what i think he is he says we woke him up yeah i i actually

34:39

have that written down uh yeah cause it wasn't yeah it wasn't too long after the uh the bar scene where he loses him and

34:47

they're talking on the phone he's like just let him go let us find him yeah you just go home right like we're trying to give you an out and he just will not

34:54

don't do it right yeah yeah yeah because most of runs away because he thinks he's like you're the wrong dude you're the wrong dude and then yeah then he has to

35:00

prove himself all right i'm sorry eddie says i'm starting to think you're not the dude for this yeah and then frank you know franken said we woke him up

35:06

hopefully he does what he always does you know yeah i was like yeah that's yeah he still has hope that he'll yeah

35:11

yeah revert back find a bottle go crawl into it disappear yeah so okay so

35:17

something i started noticing obviously it's about change right so every everybody

35:22

people should change everybody needs to change whatever there are so many references to uh going through passageways right so

35:28

the next scene uh after the apartment is they're back on the street eddie uh

35:34

finally discovers him but before that uh jack discovers him but before that eddie is trying to get through the

35:40

turnstiles and he nobody's given him passage nobody and if he can't get through there he can't do what he has to

35:45

do he can't be where he needs to be that's when he ran away yeah and somebody and a cop waves him through right so a passageway

35:52

through another door of to get to the place where he needs to be yeah and the cop i like how the just

35:59

that whole scene of the cop watching him at first and and he can he could pass judgment all right this guy's

36:04

a loser this guy yeah he's up to no good but he gives him a second chance right kind of thing yeah which is what eddie's

36:10

after the whole time i mean because he was a criminal he has done some stuff but he's trying to change his life and

36:15

you know and this cop who could have you picked a cake in prison right for one of the the inmates and that's when he wrote

36:21

you know yeah people started wanting and he says people started looking at me different yeah and that's what

36:26

but eddie will says let you know you know why you do that cops don't shoot other cops cops don't

36:32

not for somebody like me but it's two cops that have sort of helping him get on his way jack and then this this

36:37

transit cop yeah who sees these kind of people all the time could have rousted him but for whatever reason and then

36:43

that's echoed later on when they're on the run in the fun of games and they knock on and you know it's again knocks

36:49

on the door of the old man and the old man peeks through i don't open my door i never open my door clicky opens the door

36:55

and of course eddie sees this as mystical you hear that jack you hear that he never opens the door right all

37:01

that designed to say that something almost mystical is happening here

37:06

you know this is the right place the right time you know for for us for jack you know

37:11

right uh yeah i i thought that was kind of good and earlier when they're back on the street before

37:18

jack is really on board with this you're a thief eddie you'll always be a thief you know this kind of thing so

37:24

this this play between change not change with events lining up to

37:29

show that yes the things are happening signs everywhere you know that people can change and this is your time or

37:34

whatever even when they're separated by the wall where david morse is there and eddie and bruce wilson on the other side

37:40

of it yeah and morris is trying to uh convince you know he says take a look at him

37:45

right he's a he's a criminal or whatever like all that you know even that whole scene of him trying to we were partners

37:50

all that i think that's revealed when they were partnering whatever maybe so yeah it's and all this going back and forth about

37:57

you know going back against what you know turning against what you were right you know because he's trying to say that he can't change and people can't change

38:04

anything yeah no absolutely the the when they're in the fun and games when they're pinned down and and frank uh is

38:11

having a conversation with jack you know uh talking about eddie you know he's always

38:16

gonna do what he always did that that phrasing is an exact match to hope he does what he always does about

38:21

so all that i think you know obviously intentional or whatever they shoot out and escape they ride the elevator up to

38:26

the apartments knocking on doors calls the d.a gives the wrong room number this is the

38:31

one with the old man yeah the joke about you go you know whatever the the other laugher

38:38

frank wants eddie to change his clothes and he hands him a shirt why do he doesn't want that shirt and he doesn't want the second jack jack yes jack hands

38:45

eddie it's hot i don't want that shirt how about this one no even though man would wear that one you know how about this

38:51

one yeah okay so all this talk obviously changing of clothes and stuff but

38:56

frank is giving eddie some clothes here change this change into this change into this

39:02

the change can't be put on by someone else the change has to be you want that change and i don't know if

39:09

it's too much but it was still in there eddie's saying no i don't want that change i don't want that shirt i want that shirt yeah so choosing the change

39:17

that he wants even with the the simple idea of a shirt sure you know yeah uh all these references that could

39:24

have gone anyway something with the the dressing and change and taking on a different appearance or whatever they leave the

39:30

apartment there's that cool line can't get lucky can't get lucky all the time yeah but you could be smart every day

39:36

i thought uh and then and then eddie wants to kill that guy you know sure you

39:42

know how's it feel has a feel and and jack being sort of the instrument who wasn't on board with eddie and probably

39:48

still isn't but doesn't want him to kill the guy either calls him the baker you're a baker you know all of a sudden he's not the thief eddie you're always

39:54

the thief all of a sudden he's the baker because if he does kill him then he is the exactly what ring said he was right

39:59

yeah absolutely and you know all right so back on the street on the bus headed for the midpoint foster feet is what i'm calling it

40:05

that's right yeah when the bus crashes in the trap with the hostages in the bus that's uh yeah i have that as a midpoint in a false defeat yeah okay so do i yeah

40:12

absolutely and the morris and the swat team surround them that's the bad guys close in there's nowhere for eddie and mosley to go yes

40:19

uh eddie talking about cakes i thought that was a pretty pretty poignant scene i i was on board

40:24

yeah the birthday scene asking a little girl about the birthday what yeah that was that was a really good scene yeah i

40:30

i i like that order when's your birthday yeah right yeah

40:36

today actually today is my birthday yeah it's somebody's birthday every day i think it's yeah that's a good line too

40:41

yeah no it's it's every day is somebody's birthday yeah every day yeah right yeah there's a lot of money in

40:46

birthday cakes that's right yeah yeah there's a lot of cake research in prison

40:52

i guess yeah well you know he wrote he had all those recipes written there you know put my name first i'm doing most of the work

40:57

yeah that was good yeah so the bad guy's closing i have as uh

41:03

as a frank telling the swat guy he shot two of us enough said right so he's setting up that to take him out another look at the

41:10

clock eddie is dressed differently jack says you got your suit when eddie gets off

41:15

and gone yeah they take the suit off of one of the hostages yes and it magically

41:21

fits this smaller guy right yeah yeah right they exit

41:26

and he escapes in the crowd i guess yeah he's he at this point he's able to to get away but he isn't always lost right

41:33

there the false victory because he gets eddie's getting away he's not going to surprise but you have all his losses as

41:38

as getting is coming up with a plan of putting eddie in the suit and allowing him to escape it's a false victory um

41:45

like he's not going to survive himself right right but eddie's going to get away and make it to the courthouse and the yeah i thought it was it wasn't

41:51

courthouse it was just go it'd just get out of here i thought you were still going to go and testify no well he says he says bruce bruce will says nobody's

41:57

going to testify we've lost run just get out of here you'll never make it to the courthouse you'll never

42:03

make it you know they win we lose yeah uh very much admitting defeat it's not until

42:09

eddie comes back that i think jack is able to you know

42:15

yeah people can change yeah look at me yeah you said people don't change yeah and then it comes back you imagine bingo

42:21

what's the name stealing 300 barry white stealing 300 right barry white you know he changed you know i i thought that

42:28

i thought it worked you know yeah all is lost nobody is testifying this was a strange choice for me

42:34

the passengers sort of rat them out like they just sat there and they know

42:39

they can't believe these guys are criminals i don't know i just thought you just these are took me against my will yeah i guess i

42:45

don't i just thought it was kind of shitty for the passengers to ride man no he changed his suit no no there's not 41 passengers out there he's the only one

42:52

left that's that's the thing that surprised me when they were on the phone how many passengers in here most of counts everybody there's 31 32 he goes

42:59

there's maybe 40. well bruce willis setting that up

43:04

and i didn't see it coming yeah was yeah there's maybe 30 and then you know i'm just going to open the door and let them

43:10

go while they're trying to round all these people up maybe 40 people

43:16

that's when he slipped out i was like that is brilliant yeah brilliant move on his part yeah let him know surprise him

43:22

because he knew they were coming in to kill him yeah but they knew there were exactly 12 people or something they would be accountable so when it's maybe

43:28

40 get him in a suit get him out right you'll be gone while they kill me they'll be figuring this out yeah yeah

43:33

no that's again mosley is a cunning sharp cop who who has got something

43:40

eaten at him and he needs to change whatever i thought i thought was very good dark knight of the soul so yeah as i'm

43:45

looking at this i thought well maybe it's not a midpoint maybe it's a dark knight jack records his last words and will and testament

43:51

uh surrounded eddie thinking walks away so it seems like at this point this is the darkest moment right i mean

43:59

he's actually recording his last will and testament yeah i guess i had a little bit different because then sorry i wasn't

44:04

reading looking at all my notes um they always lost like again i had a false victory because eddie's going to survive

44:10

he's come up with this plan to put him in a suit and let him slip out the rest of the hostage yeah i'm

44:15

dead but eddie will survive or whatever i've been trying to save this dude's life the whole time and then not only does eddie come back

44:21

he kind of ruined that up eddie gets shot when he comes back too that's the always lost to me oh yeah

44:27

yeah eddie shot and here's this guy who came back and risked his life for me when i you know to do the right thing

44:33

and i haven't been willing to do that this entire time you know and i didn't do that before yeah that's what mostly

44:39

saying the whole time and you know because in the ambulance ride and also that's why that's his breaking the three is dark knight and all that is because

44:45

breaking the three is finally doing the right thing yes yeah um that's when they escape on the bus

44:50

they they get excused on the bus and then but he got he gets shot when they're escaped and they find his ex-wife ambulance

44:57

driver yeah gets him patched up and does the old uh shuffle yeah

45:03

thing which again back to your point is him outsmarting them yes uh i guess i had to break into three through another

45:08

door eddie through the bus door the door the bar door the second act the bus door the third act

45:14

examples of people changing reminder of the theme i i guess i have this could be because i wasn't sure i guess at this

45:20

point this could be the dig the dig deep down and preparing for the third act in which case they take the bus to the

45:26

third act so the third act when they're actually because at that point you're killing me and so bruce is no

45:32

longer concerned about necessarily making his last will and testament and they actually drive the bus and try to drive

45:38

the bus away so i thought maybe that's where the third act would start which leaves about 30 minutes

45:44

for the third act for the third act i would i would think honestly just looking at it from an outsider point of

45:49

view i would think the ambulance doors closing in the old switcheroo would be the start of the third of okay we missed

45:56

them boom the door slams okay and the reveal that's my an uneducated opinion yeah i mean and if

46:03

you're looking for i guess visual clues and doorways and stuff like he going with i guess the way i broke it down is

46:08

you know going to testify and do the right thing take eddie's place right you know to take out his place and do the

46:13

right thing finally he meets runs into david morris underneath that the bridge or in the parking in the parking parking

46:20

area right but that's i mean he's going through the the basement to come out you know what i mean yeah yeah um yeah i

46:26

think i have that as like uh like storming the storming the castle or whatever um

46:31

because i have the the the break into three with the gathering of team and and and all of the storming

46:37

the castle and all this uh so gathering the team eddie has been shot so he has to call his sister call

46:43

the other ambulances so this is his team right this is the ones that are going to

46:49

help him get to the castle right take care of eddie you know take eddie to the port

46:54

authority that whole conversation he you know uh in in the ambulance then the the

47:00

guy saying this is as close as i can get you the court the courtroom is obviously the castle uh and the confrontation with

47:06

frank so he's he's he's gathered his team and now he's trying to storm the castle maybe this is

47:12

the hightower surprise the the setback you know he's going to go to the castle but here's frank yeah and he actually

47:17

takes a an elevator up maybe up to the you know obviously it's not

47:22

supposed to be viewed as a castle but taking an elevator up to the tower where he's supposed to be you

47:28

know whatever so i have all that is sort of the third act yeah i mean that's what i had to i just had him i guess you know

47:34

when he tells eddie you know you're not going to testify in the ambulance and i'm testifying like when the decision to

47:39

take eddie's place right this guy just risked his life for him like he needs to do the right thing like that's his that

47:46

was the to me the breaking three beat and then yeah everything else you just said is the finale in the storm the

47:51

camera i would say that the the the seed of that was planted in the bar when he realized oh he's

47:58

he's testifying against us yeah i am going to take i think that's where that was put in is i'm gonna take his place

48:04

he's going to get out of here scot-free that's where the movie was for me yeah yeah

48:10

was the third act yeah because at that point as soon as he did that everything changes jack you know and everything will because now

48:16

you either have to let him testify or you have to testify because you have gone against these cops so now

48:21

something has to happen right uh you know yeah and then even again with the tape recorder you know outsmarting

48:27

everybody um and yeah i was thinking about that when you were talking about the alternative the alternative ending having i guess frank be you know more

48:34

sympathetic like i really like the the way they have it um yeah you can see the almost like the hurt and betrayal on

48:41

his face uh you know that you recorded that conversation that was that was private that was us just doing our you

48:47

know like it's i don't know he conveyed all that in his face uh david morrison i really like that that like yeah even though he's been going

48:53

against them this entire movie yeah it's like he still had hope somehow that he's gonna do what he always does well yeah

48:59

at some point earlier when they're having that standoff whatever you know i guess we stopped being friends about 8 30 this morning because no no i don't

49:05

erase you know because i think on some level yeah frank still wants

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jack to be in the fold sure but to be in the fold you have to be a stand-up guy

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and be crooked you know and keep keep your and and jack says it's you know it's not about

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me ruining anybody's lives it's about you crossing lines lines were crossed you know yeah uh

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and yeah so yeah execution a new plan uh bunker is gone bad guys surround him try

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to kill him in a ruse but he will testify and he has the tape recorder uh i thought the final image and again

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they did this really well in the in the ending they have the alternate ending is terrible two years out from where eddie

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started previously out of br okay so previously you see this guy huffing upstairs you see him uh you know just

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looking like death warmed over now he's got a cake with how many candles on it and he blows that out in one one puff

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right he's got his wind back right so he's no longer he's also surrounded by living people as opposed to dead people yeah he's sitting that's grounded by

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life yeah sort of a new birth with the birthday and it's literally a birthday cake as opposed to

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sitting in a chair yeah absolutely yeah yeah so that's the theme people can change the

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proposition that is tested the movie asked and answered yes so i really thought i thought they really hammered theme and and

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i i really they wrapped it up i thought really really cool yeah no i even i i was mad i

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got irritated i teared up a little bit when you know thank you jack mosley you saved my life in that whole speech i was the star general i was like no [ __ ] this

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movie i don't know this no i want a movie that's not a movie you get teary up i need to write

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yeah it worked it hit where you're supposed to and no it was it was good uh yeah i'd forgotten that he'd done james

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had mentioned the movies i've forgotten donner uh uh did this uh did all these other movies that i liked yeah we talked about

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what the alternate ending was yeah being at the right place at the right time i i thought i thought it

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worked i thought they you know i thought they they they had good theme they i thought it was structured i think we're

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right around the same points about these breaks give or take uh yeah but i thought i thought donner

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really and and the writer too knew story and told an action flick

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and proves that you could tell an action flick and still have themes like or has have things like theme and callbacks and

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and meaningfulness and and you know an action flick doesn't just have to be you know popcorn or whatever right yeah

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the standout scenes to me weren't the action they were the spots in between the action

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leading up to the action that was where the bulk of my interest was i would argue that the actions end of the week

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is part of the thing yeah yeah absolutely how many and that's and that's the thing though right

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a car chases a car chases a car chase unless you care about the guy driving or

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or who they're chasing right right uh they get us on board with these characters and then we're on board right

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right you know i i thought that was really done well and the writer i i have to go back and look richard donner

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appears in this movie it's some character in the back i can't remember which also the writer i think it's that guy in

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the photograph in his sister's apartment when he because because make sure you leave the seat up or put

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the seat down or leave the seat up and the seat's already up and then you see that picture i think and i have to go back and look but i think that picture

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is the writer yeah and then donner is in it as a background character or something i can't remember richard wink

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is the writer he is the ada's detective okay all right well he's definitely in it yeah so maybe that makes sense

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because he's he's he's at jack's party is he a white hair guy yes yeah i think that's him okay

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he's in the picture and and he's at the he's at the table with the rotation birthday at the end yeah i don't see

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donner in here yet oh there he is man holding birthday cakes yeah you got it okay yeah so yeah and i just i thought i

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had was i guess why why 16 why that number you know why not 20 blocks or 18. i don't know

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i'm sorry i tried to look it up and see if there's anything there is such thing as a 16 step program um oh really yeah

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about alcohol so i've always heard of the 12. the five boys are 12. there was a 16 again i don't know if that's the

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reasoning or not i was just i was curious why they chose 16. yeah because i looked it up and that's really all i could find so it sounds everywhere

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definitive but that's wild yeah i mean it's yeah it's a really well-made movie

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uh like i said at the beginning uh it doesn't go where you think it's going to go it's a really thoughtful

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movie every step was very thoughtful plotting methodical i liked it a lot i uh i'd seen it and i liked it

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but i guess i wasn't in tune with the theme necessarily as strongly as it was this time and then all the references to

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it with change and right but you know it's it's it's an action movie but it had me man you know i think i think as

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far as an action movie goes like if you were to stack this up next to a die hard or lethal weapon it would fall short of

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those but i think character-wise it's almost like a drama it's more it's almost a more character-driven piece than some of

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those yeah like i think die hard has two tracks getting his wife back and stopping the terrorists but i think that

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is straight-up adrenaline whereas i don't think you ever get to the point of adrenaline on this although it is pretty

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tense through the streets yeah it's kind of like how are they going to get out of this yeah yeah i think that the

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the ideas of value i thought were there you know yeah if the action scenes have been more i guess if they'd spent more time on

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them like if they'd been like it could be a perfect movie to me if the action scenes were up har you know on par with a john wick or die yeah

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but addition to the character stuff this guy is also a middle-aged correct so you're not going to have him doing john wick's

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stuff yeah yeah so that's part of it yeah it draws a lot of parallels to die hard three

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of you got to get through new york city [Music] he's drunk he's coming out of a hangover

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in die hard three same thing yeah and that's where i think i came into it looking like oh he's it's

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die hard three it's diehard three richard donner style and it is not yeah right is very good movie and yeah

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different vein almost a slower burn yeah yeah yeah it's like an arrangement

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you know yeah oh yeah there's some scenes he looks absolutely like he's about to die right now there's some uh

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oh indiana jones yeah sit down before you fall down you know uh there is a movie and i

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uh i might have remembered it before but i forgot i just remembered again i don't i'd have to go back and look to see if it's a beat for beat kind of

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thing but uh there's a clint eastwood movie from the 70s called the gauntlet this is a remake of it oh is it okay all

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right there you go same situation the clintons got to get

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available went from a recommend having not seen this in a long time from

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i would recommend it to uh i mean to consider a consider to a hard recommend like i had seen it and i

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bought it and it's like okay that's a good movie bruce willis whatever so i would have considered you know i considered it and i would have said yeah you can check it out if you want so yeah

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definitely this is a good movie you need to watch whatever yeah so the second viewing definitely made me go

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from you know i consider to a hard recommend yeah i would say hard recommend as well i've

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in the research for this i watched it maybe four times maybe five times and it just it had my attention every time yeah

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when i was in the room watching it i watched movies a little different than most people but edge caught my attention i would

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watch it for the time that i was there and then it it held my attention the whole way it was a great movie yeah yeah and i guess

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i have a recommend probably went from consider to to recommend i don't know it's interesting i guess i'm

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partially a little bit of both i would say most people probably just give it a consider

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um but like if you're i guess really into movies in the morning and pay attention to stuff that's you know

56:52

looking for a little bit more out of your movies and i would give those people a recommend but most people just watch a movie just for the hell of it

56:57

like i don't know if they're gonna again i mean like we talked about the critics and stuff and the and the fans even what they thought of it like the way it is it

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seemed to think they missed a lot of that yeah but you know because they're like oh this doesn't i hard like explosions you know and this doesn't

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you're right so yeah yeah it's definitely a really good movie more to it than i thought well i recommend it

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too i want to watch it again that was the first time i'd ever seen it and i want to see it again

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she was into it i praised that's very good all right i like it yeah it's so i

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mostly recommend for you film people most definitely recommend

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yeah all right on that we are out put my name first i'm doing most of the work

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yeah that was good [Music] just tell me dude they make it to the corner

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and i've watched that alternate ending and it is garbage man richard yes sir you know right

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i mean he's being reborn that day so is jack oh yeah i started seeing the signs everywhere right you know

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i don't know you know do you want the change no i don't want the change oh nice brilliant he says you go out that door

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everything changes i said yeah because it's the second hat nothing on screen should be accidental

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a car chase the car chases the car chase unless you care about the guy driving it doesn't go where you think it's going to

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go there's a lot of money in birthday kicks