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Who are we fighting? Who are we competing against, if all that there is, is God?

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This is episode 110.

Soldier,.

How you feeling?

Blessed.

Yeah.

Highly favored.

Highly, highly favored.

I feel.

I feel the blessing and I feel the peace and contentment that comes with doing the Lord's work.

That part, that is the kingdom of heaven.

And the Lord's work is infinite.

That's right.

So there's a lot of work out there.

That's right.

As long as you get up every day and you put one foot in front of the other, you just keep hacking away at it.

And there's.

There's no end to it.

No.

And the only way it stops is if you give up, stop believing.

That's really it.

Yeah.

Or you let the enemies creep in.

Yeah.

You let fear.

It's fear.

You know, you let anxiety, grief.

If you let those things, they will stop you.

Yeah.

You know, the fear is the mind killer.

Absolutely, sir.

It makes you do things that are stupid.

Yep.

Ignorant, hasty, unproductive, and ultimately self destructive.

Not interested in it?

No, sir.

Let's open up, sir.

Bismillah irrahmanirrahim alhamdulillah, rabil alamin arachman irahim malaki amiddin.

Hola.

Guide this conversation.

Give us the power to speak to our people, to speak to the masses.

Speak on the topics you would like us to speak upon.

As we usher in thy kingdom, give us the power to serve you, to live as examples, to exude your truth.

As we love and serve you alone.

As we build thy kingdom.

We love.

We love and serve you.

Amin.

Amen.

I've been going through the comment sections.

You're a comment troll.

You're.

You.

I just, I feel like.

I feel like when the story is told, people have to have, like, you're.

Good at it though.

Like you, you live for it.

And it's, it's, it's content.

I mean, to me, it's content.

Better than watching tv.

Well, I'll give you that.

If you're talking about the mission, it is more productive.

It is more productive than tv.

So, like, you know, It's.

It's.

Out of.

Out of 20 comments, you get one that's like, yeah, but we did this before and they came and they destroyed it.

And so, you know, for me, it's like, so now we give up.

What is your solution?

You know, that's right.

We should be afraid because we have enemies.

That's right.

I mean, you know, so to me, if I can not necessarily even make the person I'm talking to see that.

Yeah.

But people that come after them see that.

That's right.

And, you know, if the post is already positive and these people are bringing negative energy, I feel like if I come across negative energy, is my job to just move that energy along.

That's right.

It's like when you got a knot in your neck, you got to get it massaged.

That's right.

You know, so.

No, that's.

That's what you do.

You massage.

Really?

Just that.

Our mindset and the teachings into our people and they got knots.

Yeah.

They got sore backs.

A lot of trauma.

They got.

It's all trauma.

And it's in.

They aren't wrong in calling out history.

No.

But just because it happened doesn't mean it will happen.

And I will say, you know, that what we have built in the past that was destroyed wasn't maintained and sustained because it wasn't defended and properly established.

Not.

No disrespect.

No.

We are in the hells in North America.

We were.

We were surrounded by enemies.

We didn't know our enemy.

Exactly.

We didn't know ourselves.

That's right.

You know, we're in a different time.

Absolutely.

We're in the time of Allah.

Yeah.

And we know having to have a personal relationship with Allah and we.

He came in person to.

To deliver us out of these hells.

And he delivers us with a knowledge of self.

That's right.

And.

And even better, now that we have a knowledge of self, we actually can see who's against us.

Yeah.

So we have a knowledge of our enemy.

That's right.

Sun Tzu says, you can't win a war unless you know yourself and you know your enemy.

That's right.

You know, and so we're in a.

We're on different grounds now, as Sun Tzu would say.

Exactly.

And the people who are attacking the vision in the comments aren't on that ground.

So our job, as we spoke last time, is to get them on that playing field.

On the high ground.

Yeah.

Where they could see, oh, the kingdom is nigh.

Yeah.

From.

From high ground.

You have a better Vantage point.

That's right.

Of the playing field.

Yep.

And you build from the spiritual high ground, that plane.

And then we usher in the physical reality of the kingdom of heaven by bringing heaven up to that spiritual plane.

This is what we are doing with ground up infrastructure and specifically the infrastructure of healing.

Absolutely.

But we have to speak in a way to get our people up, up out of the mud so that they could see what we see.

And if they can't see it, they could feel it.

Yeah.

And then I do believe that you engaging in comment banter, which is content.

Comments are content.

People go to the videos and they read the comments.

It's very important.

And as you, myself included, if you keep the comment sections going, the algorithm keeps the post popping.

Absolutely.

It's a part of it.

Yep.

And even if every knock is a boost, so people may not, they may not like it, but if they see it enough times, it eventually becomes real.

You hear, oh, the black man is God.

The black man is gone.

Eventually you're like, wait, wait, there's something there.

They keep saying that and it doesn't seem false.

I can't prove it.

But they're over there producing works that manifest the truth of that reality.

Think about how long it took from, from the 30s till now to get people to say I'm King.

That's real.

You know?

Absolutely.

And now they walking around saying King.

Back in the day, it was probably a fight.

Don't call me that, brother.

Was a fight for real.

I ain't your brother, you know.

And that's real.

Yeah.

It's just a matter of time.

You just gotta.

You keep applying the pressure.

Absolutely.

You know, calling black men kings.

Calling black.

I call Gods.

Yeah.

A God.

Hey, God.

And when they understand that we're not trying to say that you're the God of me, you're the God of you.

That's right.

When they, when they, when they really understand that the wor.

God doesn't even encompass what our creator is like.

God is a small word in comparison to who the creator is.

Yeah.

When you think about who the creator is, like trying to even pinpoint or give a name to who the creator is, you're going to fall short every time.

Absolutely.

Because not only is he infinite, is constantly growing.

Yep.

You know, he's is so much that we can't even conceive of him now and then as I said that, he became more.

And so you trying to say this is what he is.

He's God.

You don't understand.

No.

He made all of Us gods, we're his children.

That's right.

We can understand what a God is from having the ability to have force and power and control over our lives.

That's what a God is.

That's right.

But him, the creator of the heavens and the earth, who came before all of us, he's more than that.

And as every person is born, he.

He.

He multiplies.

He becomes more with every single experience that we have.

That's right.

And all of it just gets downloaded into him.

So, like trying to.

It's a beautiful thing.

Yeah.

The.

The experience of God, which is reality itself, is a very beautiful thing.

And we're.

We're him on a microcosm.

Every experience that we have makes us more so that helps us better understand him.

But you still can't quantify Him.

Yeah.

And then his enemies are the people who be like, no, this is what he is.

Yeah.

This is all that he is.

That's what makes them his enemies.

Because they don't try to understand him.

They think they know better.

They think they know.

Yeah.

They think they know.

They get their little piece of their concept of God and they go to war with that one thing.

Anything that goes quote unquote, against that.

Even though it's all.

It's all.

It's all Allah.

No, it's all Allah.

Even, Even.

Even the questioning of Allah is Allah.

Absolutely.

Even the, the frustration because you think that you understand is the pathway to understanding.

That's right.

So it all works towards God.

Yes, it does.

You know?

Yeah.

And it's.

That's what Islam is.

Submission to that.

Yeah.

So what is there to fear if no matter what option is.

Is Allah, no matter what happens is all praise is due to Allah.

Yeah.

So what do I got to be tripping about?

What do I got to worry about?

What do I have to hold on to?

Because no matter what is the fact that I'm having this conversation and reflecting upon physical reality is.

Is living proof that this is Allah.

Yeah.

So I'm good.

No matter what.

Only thing I'm holding on to is abundance.

That's.

That's it.

And that's the abundance of planet Earth.

The abundance of the.

Of the universe.

And that.

That is the piece that you and I both share with that knowingness we operate is like, no matter what, it's Allah.

Yeah.

And we are of that.

And there's no death.

There's.

It's just God.

Yeah.

And it's.

It's the small minds, the ones who can't conceive of that.

Who can't conceive of the ability to understand something without quantifying it.

Yeah.

And if.

If I can't put a name on it, it's not real.

I don't get it.

I've been there.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've been there.

Yeah.

I mean, it's.

It's.

It's the, the.

The darkness of ignorance.

It's, you know, not knowing what you don't know, which brings other things.

It brings.

It brings the boogeyman.

It brings fear.

Fear.

Yeah, yeah, fear.

And, you know, having been down that path of, like, not knowing and being where I am now, where it's like I. I still don't know, but I at least know that I don't know.

And I know that no matter what, it's a law, and I'm a part of that.

So all I got.

Keep striving.

Yeah.

And also it allows us to view this, our.

This little experience and physical reality now as literally a game.

We know this is not.

Not.

I mean, yes, a game.

Right, but not even like a game.

Like, it's.

It's small potatoes.

Like, it's not that big of a deal.

It's not that serious.

Like, like not that serious.

When you start thinking about the infinite, we're small.

Just live the smallness and enjoy the smallness.

Because, like, he got a lot more on his plate, and you can't imagine what that stress is.

Like, me and you were getting a taste of it.

But he don't even stress.

Not at all.

And he got the universe in his hand, and I'm.

Yes, that's my example.

I want to be like that.

Yeah.

You know, and the thing that makes him a law is like, he's unaffected by it.

Yeah.

He's not tripping.

He's not reactive.

He's unaffected by it.

He is able to exist within it and without it.

He's just.

Okay, that's what it is.

Yeah.

Oh, that's an experience.

So he's the divine, objective Lord.

And it's just like, no matter what, all things good comes from him because it's an.

It's part of the experience.

So we have to have that objective viewpoint when really viewing reality.

But also while we're here, okay.

It's our duty to get people to this level of understanding so they can enjoy this physical reality, the full totality.

Yeah, that's freedom.

Heaven starts here.

Exactly.

And then having this awareness, this awareness of Allah, it is liberating and it is freedom because it frees you from anxiety and grief.

It frees you from anything.

Lack of strength and laziness, and all.

You're left with is like, oh, I'm here.

It's not easy.

I gotta, I gotta, I got a journey ahead of me.

It's Star.

No, I'm saying Star Wars.

But the journey has already been completed.

I'm just walking into it.

That's right.

It's already happened.

I've seen it.

I know it exists.

That's right.

And I'm just creating all of the things that make it come to where it is in my mind.

And there's obstacles.

Yeah.

That's what makes a game a game is like, you have obstacles, you have opposition.

It wouldn't be a game if you didn't have it.

Who plays a game with no obstacles?

It's not a game.

Who plays the game where the boss don't get harder?

It's not a game, it's not fun.

And it's.

In order for it to be a game, there has to be opposition.

Right.

I played this game back in the day.

It was called Echo.

Okay.

And you're a dolphin and you're swimming around in the ocean.

That's it.

That's it.

And it's a beautiful day.

The way they did it was a beautiful.

That's hilarious.

But it's not a game.

It's not a game.

And I could play it for like, you know, I, I, when I first got it, I played it for like maybe a solid 30 minutes.

And I'm looking for something to do like this, this is, this essentially becomes hell.

I, if, if there's absolutely opposition, no adversary, if there's no point to this, it's hell.

It's hell.

There's nothing.

Nobody wants that.

So you have to view opposition and trials and obstacles as necessary as is necessary impediments to you becoming even more fulfilled.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what makes the game fun.

And if you view opposition like that, you're not going to be tripping.

You're just going to ask yourself, okay, how do I handle this?

What are we going to do now?

At some point, we were all just roly polys.

And then we figured out, one hand, two hand, I can pull myself along.

Yeah.

And then you figured out, oh, my knees, I can crawl now.

Yeah.

And then you figured out, oh, I can walk.

Maybe I'll fall a couple times.

Yeah.

But I can walk now.

Absolutely.

Now I'm running.

Is those levels help you appreciate, you know, oh, I'm not there no more.

Yeah, I'm here now.

Absolutely.

It's a Part of it.

And you got a view.

I'm glad you brought that up because it makes me think about, you know, there's a spiritual reality, you know, that Allah, like the infinite beingness that we've always been and always will be, but there's also.

We have a physical body.

And what I've actually been, like, pondering about is like, okay, this actual physical body has been.

Is set.

It's passed down literally through ovum and semen.

Like, it's.

There's an unbroken line.

You get what I'm saying?

Since the beginning of this physical reality.

So whether it, you know, that's why I don't really.

People have the conversation about evolution and, you know, God being separate.

It's like, okay, every.

We.

We are.

This body has evolved over trillions of years.

So I just.

When you said that, I just thought about, like, man.

We have, like, an unbroken line of,.

Like, all the way back to the divine, the first.

That's wild.

Yeah.

Trillions of years of unbrokenness.

Yeah.

And the fact that we're here is proof that.

That.

That it's been unbroken.

Now, I think you raised the question of, like, okay, this is.

I don't want to get too science fictiony.

Okay, well, have there been other beings that have came to planet Earth and.

What they look like.

Yeah.

And did they mate?

You know, that type of stuff.

It's interesting.

I don't remember the lizard people.

Hey, I'm not saying it's true or false.

I'm just like, it gets interesting.

But we do know that this physical body, there is a source for it.

I'm not talking about the spiritual.

That's.

I believe that to be a different conversation.

But the beautiful thing about this existence is we.

This.

It's.

We're in a physical body, and we have a spiritual beingness that resides and controls this body.

And we got genetic memory from every.

Every single person that the line came from before.

Every single person?

Every single thing?

Yeah.

Everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I don't want to get too scientific, but I think, okay, well, Allah did create us, but this physical form, how long it did.

It could have been just oceans.

And it.

It took him time to make that man from the physical reality realm from, you know, sea creatures, whatever it was.

But I'm like, oh, wow.

Okay.

Interesting.

The first iteration of creation.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The first life form.

Yeah.

I mean.

Yes, that's a thought.

I think that, like, for me, I'm going to go with, he.

He created the physical version of man.

Okay.

In order to build Everything else.

I feel you.

Because if you talk about him creating himself.

Yes.

Okay, okay.

Because I've had this thought, you know, like.

Yeah, we're getting scientific with like, did.

He start off as like a sperm looking creature and then seriously evolve into a tadpole?

But the reason why I think that he can't.

He turned into a man.

Yeah.

Is because when you think about the fact that we're the apex predator, like we're the most.

Yeah.

Everything else was designed around this design.

So it doesn't make sense for there to be an.

A less efficient design that you designed all this based on.

That's real.

And the fact that God doesn't live inside of time as we do.

Not at all.

He lives.

He's lived all of this before it happened.

So he understood the most efficient version before it was necessary to create it.

If that makes sense.

I get it.

Yeah.

You know, like there's a lot.

It's a liberal.

There's a lot.

This is like we're in a la land.

And it's because.

Okay.

I'm also like, there's a physical reality, there's a spiritual reality.

Like when he.

This, the first self created Allah, was that just the spiritual and the physical came later?

Was it all in one?

You feel me?

No, I.

So I'm getting excited.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's hear it.

I think the spiritual absolutely came first because the spiritual is the only part that's eternal though.

Facts.

Yes.

So the spiritual had to be here.

Yeah.

When it was like when it.

When you think about an atom.

That's a physical thing.

Yes, yes.

The spiritual existed in every atom simultaneously before the inkling of consciousness.

Before God said be.

Before the bang.

Yeah.

The spirit was there before it decided to be like, oh wait, I'm here.

Real talk, you know?

So like I look at it like the only way that God will.

Will have envisioned all of time before was to have it envisioned as a spirit before it became a physical manifestation.

No, I feel you.

And then it's like in order to have this experience that I just dreamed up as a spirit.

Yeah.

I gotta start with this atom splitting, becoming physical matter.

Yeah.

And then into planets and everything else.

Yeah.

That's the way I.

Okay.

No, I feel you.

I'm not, I'm not.

I'm not proposing that I understand God.

I'm just proposing that this is the way that it makes the most amount of sense to me.

And I get it.

That's the only thing you can do.

And the thing is we have the right to like, guess and speculate.

Because we are a part of that experience and that experience lives in us.

So like.

Yeah, that's grandpa.

We know the answer.

We're just trying to remember.

Really.

Just remember it.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So I love that word, remember.

That's what it is, bro.

Because each part of our, each segment is a member and we're trying to become.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

So I'm like, okay, it started off with spirit.

Okay.

Was, was there like trillions of years of just a spiritual reality?

Time didn't exist.

Yeah.

So it's like the.

Oh, that's what real.

Because I guess time is dependent upon physical.

Physical motion.

Right.

We recreated what the concept of time was so that we could go to work.

Yes.

Okay.

You know, so we can have tasks and do jobs and do things.

Do stuff.

Yeah.

Like, like before that.

This is time.

Facts, the wheel.

And it just does its thing.

Yeah.

And then from our small, insignificant understanding of it, we took out like a little part of that circle and was like, this is time.

From here to there.

We mark it.

Yeah.

No, that's real.

But even after we're gone, it continues.

Yeah.

You know, here's what I feel.

I agree with what you just said.

I, I do believe when we leave these bodies, I think like all the, we'd remember all the answers.

Be like, oh, wow, okay.

Yeah, I remember now.

I feel.

You feel like we remember.

We remember, remember.

We remember to the.

Not the physical.

Yeah, we remember to the spiritual.

Exactly.

And we go.

And we go back outside of time, like, oh, okay, this is Allah.

Imagine, imagine.

Yeah.

All of the little petty things that we're doing.

And then we're like, oh, wait, I'm God.

That's probably dying.

Yeah.

I was, I was fighting against God.

Exactly.

I had a devil also.

God.

Uh huh.

That's right.

I was fighting against God the whole time.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, man.

And the purpose of the entire thing is to be.

It's like as the spirit, we understood it all.

Yeah.

We had the knowledge of it, but now we're having the experience.

Yes.

And so it's like, like me telling you about pizza is not you tasting pizza.

That's right.

Me telling you about pizza, you're like, very interesting.

That sounds.

It's a lot of things.

I gotta go down there and try.

And then I give you pizza and you're like, but you didn't properly describe what butter tasted like on the bottom of crust.

Yeah.

You didn't tell me what sauce and bell peppers did together.

Yeah.

You just Described bell peppers and sauce.

Yeah.

This is different now that I'm tasting it.

Absolutely.

And so, so to me, all of us, every person throughout history, even the first man, all the way down to when we all end this project, this experiment and go back into the spiritual and there is no more physical.

They're all a part of us experiencing or, Or God having the human experience.

That's right.

And I think part of this game of the physical reality is how much of that can we remember while we stole in this body?

You know what I mean?

I, I don't even think that, that, like, I, I think part of the experiment isn't to like, necessarily remember.

Yeah.

I think it's to just have the experience.

I feel it.

And then, like, if we're able to remember, it makes us more enlightened.

Exactly.

But even enlightenment isn't the point.

No.

Some people, some people pass away before they even reach 1 years old.

Yeah.

Their life had a point.

All the people that they affected just by being born from the nurse, that, that helped the doctor, like, they're affected.

That's right.

You know, the parents for sure, their siblings, their grandparents, everybody that hears the story about you, everyone is affected.

So everybody's life had purpose.

That's right.

The purposes are just different.

It's part of the experience.

That's right.

And so like some people's part of the experience isn't to have necessarily what we consider to be purpose.

They still had purpose.

That's right.

Now if you decide to give yourself a grandiose purpose and you want to affect change into the world, do it.

You can.

You're God.

That's right.

You're having the experience.

And whatever you want the experience to be, you have the choice to make it that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we do know that, you know, God exists in person.

Yeah.

And that, that being, that supreme being, remember, he is.

He is supreme because he remembers.

He's more enlightened than anybody else on the planet.

Exactly.

He's the Supreme Being because he has the supreme amount of information.

He remembers the most.

Yes.

You know, really for real.

But even the Supreme Being doesn't remember everything like we're taught.

That master from muhammad Mastered what, 17 languages?

Yeah.

That's real.

But there are how many languages?

A lot more than 17.

Exactly.

That's real talk, you know.

Yeah, that's real talk.

And there's a reason why we're taught that.

Yeah.

Is to understand that even the Supreme Being doesn't know every single thing.

That's why that's woof.

That's.

Wow.

That's wild.

That makes.

That makes the game, like, oh, we're with Allah.

You know what I mean?

Like, we're out exploring and expanding with him and really trying to, like, navigate and figure.

The lie is that only certain people are.

Are part of the divine bloodline.

Yeah.

All of us are a part of the divine.

That's right.

By virtue of being here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, for real.

That's what the human experience is.

Exactly.

It's God experiencing all of it.

Yep.

Life.

Yep.

In every possible scenario.

Yep.

Every.

Every, like, infinite.

They said, like the multiverse.

Each of us are the verse.

Yeah.

Each of us are our universe.

Absolutely, bro.

The multiverse is each person that's born.

Yeah.

And God is experiencing every timeline, every multiverse, every verse.

Yeah.

And what he is telling both you and I as we pull in and we communicate this type of communion to masses is we're pulling in more responsibility and we're pulling in more weight.

And he's like, okay, y' all are in my.

Welcome to my world.

You're calling yourself gods now?

You're starting to feel like, okay, heavy is the head that wears the quote unquote crown now.

Now it's like, oh, it's not.

It's not all sunshines and rainbows.

I don't even think of it as a crown.

Because we are all gods.

Right.

That's right.

The crown insinuates that somebody's higher.

Yeah.

Exalted above.

I think that we're all operating from a place of hierarchy because that's the parameters of this.

This world, this version of reality that we live in.

Yeah.

I don't think hierarchy is necessary.

I think that, you know, all humans should be able to, like, create heaven on earth.

That's right.

But we're taught that we have to work so that this person can have heaven.

Yeah.

No real talk, you know, and, like, that's.

That's the antithesis of heaven.

That's hell for everyone else.

Exactly.

You know, like.

Yeah.

And the calculation of that world is like, I have.

In order for me to have heaven, other people have to be in hell.

Yeah.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

And we're.

By what we're doing and communicating like this and building heaven, it's like we're showing.

Actually, no.

Heaven's for everybody.

Yeah.

If you would just submit.

And it's not submit.

Submit to.

Submit to the God in you.

Exactly.

Submit.

Submit to what's in your nature.

Yeah.

You know, like, you.

You are submitting right now to all these things that you think are fun.

Yeah.

That go against your nature.

And then the proof is the illnesses, the proof is the, the feelings that you have.

The proof is how fearful you are, how much grief you're in, how much, you know, like all of that is the proof.

Like when you stop that, you go in the opposite direction.

You lose those and you don't have to worry about that.

It's.

That's called peace.

Yeah, absolutely.

That's where you get to heaven.

Yeah.

And you're not looking in the rear view, you're just looking forward and like, okay, let's create more.

Let's get, let's, let's accept the vastness of this universe and let's do stuff with it and explore and expand.

Yeah.

And with that, you know, being with a lot.

It's service.

Yeah.

You serve him.

And what higher form of service is getting people up, up under the realization of who Allah is?

That's what it is.

Yeah.

You are God.

Submit to God, because that's you.

That's service.

That's our, that's our duty.

When I once I came to the realization of like, like God doesn't operate on time the same way that we do.

Not at all.

I got, I got a little, I want to say goofy.

How so?

Because like I started realizing that I'm the, the five year old version of myself at the same time as the 25 year old version of myself at the same time as the 42 year old version of myself.

And it's like, like all of us wanted to have a happy life, wanted to have fun.

Wanted to.

And like, what is his version of fun look like versus what is his version of fun?

And if I can make all of their versions of fun be sympatical, like, yeah.

Be like coalesced.

Like I'm, I'm doing justice to myself.

And then it's like I had this, I had the meditation with my father where it was like, you know, you're doing what all of us wanted to do.

Yeah.

Keep going.

Yeah.

Like, and we're living vicariously through you.

Absolutely.

Because we are God.

And like, this is a part of man that's real.

You want to have.

That's real.

Keep going.

That's motivating is like, oh no.

They're like, right?

They're like, right.

They're like, they're just on our back.

Like, okay.

Like, yeah.

I just picture myself.

I picture my father.

That's really dope.

Sitting with his father, laughing at the things that we're doing.

You See them.

It was windy as.

They ain't got no infrastructure right now.

They had fun, though.

They had a good time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like, to me, it's all motivating.

Like, that is motivating.

And also just it.

Like taking that to what we just talked about, just accepting life as a game, but.

And obstacles is necessary.

And then also, oh, our fathers are with us, riding this journey.

Yeah.

Giving us.

Yo.

Giving us counsel.

Like, that makes it a lot more fun.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, now I.

Now I really don't have anxiety, grief.

Now it's just like every day, our conversations.

Okay, what are we gonna do?

Yeah.

Okay, cool.

Let's have it.

Same thing we try to do.

That's awesome.

Okay.

Oh, this happened.

Okay, what are we gonna do?

Okay.

All right, let's do.

We gotta build the microcosm and then make it into the.

The macro concept.

Give it to everybody.

Yep.

And we're also.

We're also experiencing the.

The counter effects of our activity and our motion.

And it's ripple.

You call them ripple effects.

Yeah, they're very, very, very, very strong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You and I both had coughs.

Like, I.

When we get sick and we have all that.

That's an example of, like, the physical universe.

Like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Y' all doing a whole lot.

I need.

Let me throw something your way.

No.

You.

You float from a while, then you hit the brick wall.

Oh, wait.

Physical reality, you realize.

Wait, no, that don't exist.

And you float through the physical wall.

Yep.

Another quote, unquote barrier.

Yeah.

And then the beautiful thing is us doing this is a form of service.

Me pushing, us being soldiers.

It's like the way out is just do serve God.

That's the cheat code.

Yeah.

Everyone listening.

It's like, if you want to just serve God, but in order to serve God, you have to know who Allah is.

You have to know who you are in your relationship to Allah and realize you're one of the same.

So that's regardless of color, because we have spoken on the reality of Allah being the original man.

Exactly.

So.

But also, everything is Allah.

So everything is what it is.

Yeah.

Color is irrelevant when you think about the fact that everything came from one.

Exactly.

And.

And that one manifests as every color on the spectrum.

And so if you want to say, like, I'm better because of this, or I'm better because.

Okay, you can have that experience if you want to.

Yeah.

I'm.

I'm gonna relate to the entire spectrum.

Yeah.

And what a lot has shown Me is like, you have been the entire spectrum.

You have that experience in you.

How are you gonna try to act like you're better than one part of the experience?

Everyone's got a purpose.

It's called small mind.

Hey, I understand, bro.

And I, you know, to be fair, I joined the nation with a small mind being like, oh, well, I'm better because I'm the original.

And then a lot has recently been like, okay, you're the original, but you're also the devil.

Okay, yeah, okay.

That's what it is.

Yeah, that's what it is.

Yeah.

Everybody got that moment of like the, the two year old.

It's all about me.

Yeah.

Me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

Yeah.

It's a part of the experience too.

That's right.

And it's our job to not judge that because we've been there and just be like, give them counsel.

Give me like.

And then walk our post in a perfect manner and speak in a way to allow them to the, the mirror to see themselves for who they are, which is God too.

Yeah.

And it's humbling because, you know, even though they may not, they, some people may play themselves against us or quote unquote, in their mind they're still Allah.

So you think you're going against us, but you're actually working for Allah to make us better human beings.

Right.

So you.

There is, there's opposition, but there's not really opposition.

I think my biggest opposition is myself.

Like, absolutely.

When I go back into the two year old version of where it's all about me.

Yeah.

Then I start getting in my way and stubbing my toes.

I go back into crawling again, you know.

That's right.

It's very, it's very easy.

But it's that, that's, it's fear and ego that gets you in that back to crawling when you're acting like a child.

And believe me, ignorance is bliss.

So like when you're in that me, me, me, me, me, it feels good.

It's gratifying.

Yeah, yeah.

It has its moments.

Just like.

And then you realize, oh no, I'm glad I'm this age because I have the wisdom.

Yeah.

I'm excited for the next age because if I feel this enlightened now, what am I going to look like in 10 years?

Absolutely.

What am I going to feel like?

What am I going to think like in 10 years?

Like, yeah, that version of me isn't happened yet.

But he's exciting.

Absolutely.

And us having these type, this level of conversations is giving me A lot more appreciation for older like elder people no matter what color.

I mean the reason why I came up with the concept of like.

Yeah.

To like take care of our elders because I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be an elder.

I would, I don't want to be subject to the, the way that we treat our elders in this world now.

No.

And we have to treat them how we would want to be treated now.

Treat everyone.

That's what it is.

Cuz that's going to be you.

How you treat others is literally how you're going to be treated.

And the two year old version was like, no, you got to make sure you own that.

Yeah.

The me, me, me, me, me.

No, I don't want to be in no old folks home.

No.

And like that's, that's our future if we don't secure it.

If that's take responsibility as if you were that right now.

Yeah.

No, that's real, bro.

Yeah.

Because in we over people overlook the elderly.

Like they overlook black people.

You know, they have.

That's because we're all, we're all stuck in this like cycle of trauma where we're only thinking about tomorrow and today.

Yeah.

We're barely thinking about tomorrow.

That's real.

It's really about what am I going to do for dinner right now.

Yeah.

It ain't about how that dinner is going to affect me tomorrow.

That's real.

It ain't about you know like upset stomach and all of that.

We make the same bad decisions for dinner all the time.

You know what I mean?

Like we're eating three meals a day even though we know that we not even capable of digesting that much food.

Like still do it because it's the cycle that we're stuck in.

That's right.

You know?

Yeah.

If people were thinking about taking care of that older version of themselves, they would be doing a lot of different things.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

I, it's making me really reflect about like how I.

Because there are times I'm like, oh, people get out of my way and.

I see myself in them and it makes me.

By discarding huge swaths of people or anything.

It's, it's kind of reflection of the, the society which we live in, which we are, we don't, we're not aware and we're just rushing through life.

Me, me, me.

You're trying to do what it is, what I want to do.

Like on a little baby race car.

My, my, my, my mind losing all perspective.

Right.

And that's no way to live.

No, because once you're of.

We'll call this the awareness of Allah.

It's like, what do you.

What is there to.

What need is there to rush?

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Like rushing from one part of God to another part of God.

I'm just doing my part while I'm here.

Right.

For as long as he wants me here.

And that is the peace that comes with Islam.

And submission to Allah is like, you don't have to rush.

It's that hasty attitude that's.

That's the spirit of Satan is like, oh, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta.

That's.

Honestly, that's like.

That's the.

The effect that Satan wants to have on us.

Yeah.

You know, Satan is out.

It's like a curse, bro.

Yeah.

Satan's job is to distract us from being God.

Exactly.

And it's like, he doesn't have one way that he distracts us.

It's whatever he can pull out of his bag that makes us, like, pay attention to Satan.

Yeah.

And it's.

He's do.

He does food, he does entertainment.

Yeah.

It's everything.

Yeah.

This entire world is built up for him to try to be successful.

And the closer we get to the end of his world, the more tricks he's gonna pull.

Yeah.

And so, like, staying focused and staying grounded and staying, you know, that's part of how you fight back.

That's the weapons.

Absolutely, bro.

Like, I'm glad you said that.

I.

Every morning I go in my grass, I take out my shoes and I ground.

Has been doing that for the past thing, three weeks now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's.

I.

It's literally like the antidote to.

Because we're in la, we're like in the.

The cesspool of, oh, I gotta be.

I gotta be somebody.

I gotta keep.

I gotta like the rat race.

This is it.

So we have to do things to offset that.

Us going to the land is an example of us offsetting that.

Me grounding, me doing tai chi and that.

It's giving me the grounding to feel like I don't.

I could just exist and not have to do anything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's.

It's peace I'm at.

I'm at such a weird place right now because, like, I don't even know how to really put it in words without sounding egotistical, but I'm just gonna say it.

Yeah, say it.

I've gotten to a place where, like, things that I do are the Spoon in the matrix.

And the key to bending the spoon isn't to do the things, is to realize there is no spoon.

Yeah.

And then the spoon bends, you know, and so, like, I did need external things at some point, and they helped me get to this place where I'm at now where it's like, no, just be.

Yeah.

And that's just be.

And since I've gotten to that place of just be, like, I'm able to, like, do all the physical things in the world, but also look at myself as I'm doing them.

Yeah.

And it's just like the spiritual side of me.

It enjoys the physical things, but it knows that that's just a small part of it.

Absolutely.

You know, and so, like, yeah, I'm.

I'm going to work, hating work, but I'm not really at work.

Yeah.

No, I feel you.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, I'm having arguments online, but I'm not really having.

I get it.

I'm building up.

Yeah.

This thing that you're, like, you're exterior to it.

Yeah.

I'm just having.

I'm having the experience, but I'm also above the experience.

Yeah.

It makes perfect sense.

And when you.

And the key word you said is if you can just be.

Yeah.

No matter what, then you can have anything, like, bad or good.

Yeah.

You could have anything happen to you.

Insults, rocks.

It's just like, I could have reached.

Me as, like, insanity when I realized that, like, I spend the majority of my time in my future.

And it's like, explaining it to some.

To other people.

I know that it sounds crazy, but I absolutely don't care.

And it's like, even though I'm spending the majority of my time in my future, I'm not.

I'm here, I'm present.

Absolutely.

But it's like I'm smiling all the time because that's where I'm at.

Yeah.

But I'm also very much engaged and very much in doing all the things that I'm supposed to be doing in the physical reality.

Yeah.

But I'm not here.

And I do think, both of us now that we.

That future is, like, becoming closer and we're bringing it in.

I think both of us are now, like, living in that.

It's heaven.

Yeah.

We're literally building heaven on earth.

Like, we're not over.

Because how we're talking is people type spiritual talk all the time.

It's like new age, whatever, to talk like this.

And it's not.

We're not saying anything.

That's that like out in that world, like that.

Ridiculous.

It's the truth, though.

But it would have been more ridiculous like 30, 40 years ago.

Now it's just like, oh, this is what it is.

But we're also podcasts like this.

Yeah, I know.

But to our credit, we're taking this type of talk and ushering in works that substantiated.

So we're telling the world that, okay, we're talking like this, but we're actually going to build a world where this reality is reflected in every aspect.

And the whole purpose of this reality is to get people to purify and heal themselves.

So this reality is self evident.

Yeah.

Right.

Because it's hard to see the God talk and the beauty of life when you're living 400 years of shadow slavery in your DNA and you haven't dealt with anything, you haven't taken the time to stop to deal with it.

It requires stillness to deal with this.

Right.

You have to be at least still for a period of time to deal with your trauma.

And if you've been running from one slave master to one slave master to a plantation, to sharecropping to sharecropping, to job to cubicle to cubicle, at which point do you stop running?

Yeah, it's our job to get us to stop running.

What are we running to?

Yeah, who are we fighting?

Yeah, it's all a lot.

Yes, Allah, wake up and realize that this is all a lot and stop running.

It's like those.

I don't know if it was a movie or commercial when they, when there's a bully and he's like holding your.

Arm, that's really hitting yourself.

Seriously, bro, stop.

That's what we're, that's.

All of us are doing that.

So just me and you were like, okay, just stop hitting yourself.

Sure.

You don't have to do that anymore.

No, you could stop.

You can stop at any time, anytime.

It's almost like the bully was holding your hand and making you do it and then he walked away.

And you're still doing.

Exactly.

That's what slavery is.

That's exactly what it's programming.

And it's just like, okay, well, now it's runs itself.

I did my job.

I'm gonna sit back and I'm gonna keep running the world because the, the, the slaves I created are still operating on my programming.

Endless entertainment.

Entertainment and also energy.

Like, no, they're.

They.

They have a whole planet of worker bees to work while they just sit back and just watch them work and extract the Resources from this planet.

It's not even just energy.

It's like the devil's job is, like I said, to distract.

Yeah.

And now he's.

That he's got it running so efficiently that he doesn't have to actually lift a finger.

Yeah.

It's like, now the devil's minions, all the devils he created are creating devils and aren't even aware of the fact that they're doing it.

Yeah.

And it's like it's on autopilot.

Like.

Yeah.

The abuse.

That's planet Earth, bro.

Epstein.

Yeah.

Like, all of these, like, even the.

Like the.

The devil worshipers, they're worshiping something that they don't fully understand, and they think that it's the most supreme thing because that could have been handed down to them from their parents.

Absolutely.

In the same way that a Christian is like, well, my parents were Christian, so I'm a Christian.

Yeah.

The devil worshipers is living his life.

They're.

They're sacrificing people and they're doing their thing because this is what they were taught since they were children.

Yep.

You know?

Yep.

It's.

It's.

You know, and the devil, you know, he's.

He's at his end.

He's.

I don't even think that he exists.

I think it's all just going now.

Yeah.

You know?

Absolutely.

He don't have to be a reality anymore.

His time ended.

Right.

Yep.

Now all of us are just being devils.

That's all we know.

Yeah.

And that's all we will know until we get the knowledge of self and God.

Yeah.

So that is our job.

Yeah.

To get us from devil mode.

Devil demon devil minion mode.

To God mode.

Yeah.

That is.

That's the.

The poor, righteous teachers.

That is the poor, righteous teachers.

I was like, 95% we.

And we are doing it.

This is the form.

This form exists for that purpose, to, like, wake wake the masses up.

You don't got to play this game.

There's a way out.

Heaven is here.

If you would just look inside.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So.

But we got to give them breadcrumbs.

Yeah.

And to meet the land is like.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Look.

This is how you do it.

Breadcrumbs.

Yeah.

You know, this is what heaven looks like in physical reality.

Yeah.

Now, now, now.

Translate that over into your mind and create your own heaven.

That's right.

That you never have to leave.

That's right.

And I do think it's an incentive, too, seeing it physically represented.

It's like, okay, why would you not Want that internal, you know?

Yeah.

So we have to use the land is like the bait to really be like, okay, well, you know, this came because of.

We did the internal work.

We're going to help you do that work so you could have this physical paradise inside as well.

And if you want to create another physical version of this somewhere, hey, man, we'll help you do that too.

Absolutely, absolutely.

But it's like, physical paradise is not paradise unless you have internal peace within.

True, true.

I took bro brothers down to the land and, you know, not even just brothers, I took people down to the land and instead of seeing what I see, they were frustrated.

You know, it's too hot, it's too cold.

Oh, yeah, just dirt.

It's this, it's that.

Yeah, it's.