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Dolemite (1975)
Episode 829th April 2026 • The B-Movie Boys Podcast • MacGuffin Media Network
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This week, The B-Movie Boys step into the larger-than-life world of Dolemite (1975), a movie that somehow manages to be a scrappy, low-budget chaos machine and a legitimate cultural landmark at the exact same time.

What starts as a seemingly straightforward revenge story about a wrongfully imprisoned pimp quickly spirals into a whirlwind of crooked cops, rival gangsters, questionable kung fu, and filmmaking choices that scream "to hell with rules!" But underneath the rough edges, there’s something much bigger happening—something that forces us to reevaluate what this movie actually is.

We break down the baffling fight choreography, the anything-goes camerawork, and the unforgettable characters (shoutout to the Hamburger Pimp), while also digging into the story behind Rudy Ray Moore and the sheer force of will it took to get this movie made. What we find is a film that doesn’t just exist as a B-movie—it helps define an entire movement.

The Schlockometer is deployed. Context becomes everything. And somehow, against all odds… this might be a masterpiece.

Good Journey.

Mentioned in this Episode:

  • Dolemite Is My Name (2019)
  • Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • Pink Flamingos (1972)
  • Quentin Tarantino
  • Samuel L. Jackson
  • Dr. Dre
  • Snoop Dogg
  • John Cleese
  • John C. Reilly
  • NAACP
  • Dunbar Hotel
  • UCLA
  • Burger King
  • Wendy's

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Flash:

Incoming transmission. Incoming transmission. Let's boogie.

Dave:

Welcome to The B–Movie Boys, where bad movies get the love they deserve and the respect that they don't.

I'm Dave Michaels.

Bryan:

I'm Bryan Betz.

Dave:

We're about to talk about a movie that I didn't realize was as important as it is.

Bryan:

Same. I'd certainly heard about it, but I didn't know how much it mattered.

Dave:

on't know what it was like in:

Bryan:

Sure. Oh, I have no idea.

Dave:

But now I realize that this is looked at as an independent masterpiece. And I get it.

Bryan:

Who knew?

Dave:

program, we are talking about:

Bryan:

ed this movie. And also Disco:

Dave:

He also is the villain in this movie because he plays Willie Green.

Bryan:

Sure does.

Dave:

Bryan, have you ever seen Dolemite?

Bryan:

I have not seen Dolemite. Boy, am I glad I have now.

Dave:

What did you know about Dolemite before you watched it?

Bryan:

Very little. I knew that it was looked at as very important in blaxploitation film.

Dave:

Yep.

Bryan:

And it has a lot of influence on other media, synths and other performers. But other than that, I didn't know anything about the plot. I just knew I was in for a ride.

Dave:

I think I knew just about the same that you did, but I think to a lesser extent because of just how important and huge this movie is. Like, I'm building it up and I know that, but holy shit, I didn't know.

Bryan:

Yeah, same. Like I had an idea, but I didn't know just how influential this movie was.

Dave:

But is it a good B movie?

Bryan:

But is it a good B movie? Well, that's not really up to us. That's up to the Schlockometer, which, yeah, we control that.

Dave:

I get it.

Bryan:

So it is kind of up to us.

Dave:

d of a B movie. Dolomite from:

Bryan:

One movie. Ten categories. We start off with the audacity, but before we can get into it, we need to tell you the tale of.

Dave:

Dolemite Dolemite, our hero pimp and nightclub singer is rotting in prison for a crime he didn't commit.

His right hand woman, Queen Bee, convinces the warden that the city has fallen apart without him pimping and singing or whatever it is that he did out there that kept the city from falling apart. She convinces the warden to give him a pardon so he could go take down real criminals.

Bryan:

That's how the criminal justice system works. I don't know if you're aware of this. You just gotta get a friend to show up and say, hey, it's a lot worse out there since he got in.

Why don't we change that?

Dave:

Can we please get him out of here so he can pimp out there and keep the world safe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's it. That all checks out completely. Yeah.

Bryan:

After Dolomite gets out of prison, he realizes that his empire is gone. His nephew Jimmy was murdered in a drive by his rival.

Willie Green has stolen his nightclub and his favorite girl, Pinky Yvonne, is now working for the enemy.

Dave:

Dun dun dun.

Bryan:

I think that's stakes, baby.

Dave:

It's something. I still don't know why he got out of jail. I'm still trying to figure that out.

Bryan:

At this point, this crime is going crazy and they need Dolomite on the streets to keep everybody in line.

Dave:

Before Dolomite even makes it home, hitmen try to take him out on the side of the road. Dolomite proceeds to show them and the audience that his kung fu air quotes. Big time air quotes, big time.

His flying kicks and punches, they never actually get close to hitting anyone. But the baddies still get their asses kicked. I gotta imagine that like just the wind burst from him getting close to them, knock them over.

Bryan:

It's really a lot of forced air.

Dave:

There's a lot of daylight in between all these punches and kickings of faces and feet. A lot of daylight, a lot.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

But Dolomite still sends the message that he's the baddest motherfucker alive. And he's back.

Bryan:

Can you dig it?

Dave:

I can dig it. I don't know why he's getting out of prison. I don't know what he's about to do now that he's out of prison to keep crime off the streets.

But I am so excited, very excited.

Bryan:

To see where this is gonna go. Dolemite is being stalked by detectives Mitchell and White, two dirty cops who framed him originally.

They spend the whole movie trying to catch him dirty again. But Dolemite is always one False limp with shoulder. Swagger ahead. Or a pimp step ahead, if you will.

Dave:

These two cops, one John Cleese looking motherfucker and one John C. Reilly looking motherfucker.

Bryan:

Yeah. Both coked out of their mind and just trying to mess with Dolomite.

Dave:

But why?

Bryan:

But why?

Dave:

They framed him once and then Dolomite got out for reasons. And now they're like, we got to get him back in there for reasons.

Bryan:

You know what they say, Frame me once, shame on me. Frame me twice, shame on you.

Dave:

Shame me three times, shame on the system. We really do need reforms, people. This is a serious issue.

Bryan:

It's true.

Dave:

Dolomite finds a snitch named Creeper, AKA the Hamburger Pimp.

Bryan:

I fucking love that name so much.

Dave:

I do too. And he goes to him to find out why Jimmy got killed. And he finds out that Jimmy is trying to go straight and talk to the police.

Bryan:

But Hitman burst in to kill our.

Dave:

Beloved Hamburger Pimp already. And the police come and they toss Dolomite in jail for it. What's happening?

Bryan:

Framed again. Shame on I don't know who now. So many frame jobs.

Dave:

It's a double frame, which, when you think about it, it creates a nice layering effect.

Bryan:

That's true. It's also twice as expensive to get done at a frame shop.

Dave:

It is. And it shouldn't be. Right. Right.

Bryan:

It's still the same frame. What are we doing here?

Dave:

But maybe it should be.

Bryan:

I don't know.

Dave:

Is it hard? I'm not doing it. You're doing it. There's a reason why, and I understand that now why I'm saying this.

Bryan:

Hamburger paint. We hardly knew ye.

Dave:

Very sad.

Bryan:

It's so sad.

Dave:

He came in, he negotiated for hamburgers with his charm and drug addiction. He goes and takes Dolomite back to his room where he eats burger and shoots up heroin. And then Dolemite questions him.

Bryan:

Yep.

Dave:

After he shot a heroin is when he decided, oh, shit, I need all this information Still, I should probably start.

Bryan:

Asking this guy questions also.

Dave:

The Hamburger Pimp.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

Any relationship with the Burger King? Is this like a jester situation or.

Bryan:

Do you think the Burger King works for the Hamburger Pimp?

Dave:

Are you suggesting that there's the Hamburger Pimp and the Burger King is like a john?

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

Is that how the system works, King? I don't know.

Bryan:

And he's also got Wendy in tow.

Dave:

This is getting gross now. She's too young for any of this.

Bryan:

I actually don't know how long Wendy's has been around Hamburger Pimp. Is one of my favorite quotes in the movie. He says, I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day.

Dave:

It's very good.

Bryan:

That has lived rent free in my head since we watched this.

Dave:

I love it. That's so good.

Bryan:

So good. So Dolomite framed, goes back to jail. And as soon as he's in, he gets right back out because he gets bailed out by a secret benefactor.

Hopefully we'll find out who that is. After he's out, he meets a man named Blakely.

Dave:

Oh, a mystery.

Bryan:

Just what this movie needed.

Dave:

Is it a mystery when you know that this doesn't smell right and I don't even know what it is yet?

Bryan:

Something fishy going on for sure. But it's not this guy who he meets Blakely because that guy, definitely not a fed.

Dave:

He has zero fed energy about him.

Bryan:

There's nothing about old Jerry Jones that feels like he might be a secret character that we alluded to earlier in the movie. And his favorite girl, Pinky Yvonne, claims she's ready to come back to Dolomite's side.

Dave:

And they do the sex about it.

Bryan:

They absolutely do the sex about it. We're changing angles at weird times and change of perspective. And at one point, I feel like the camera is actually getting fucked by Dolomite.

Dave:

It might be, but it's crazy when you watch a sex scene and it just doesn't give a Damn about the 180 rule.

Bryan:

This whole movie doesn't give a Damn about the 180 rule.

Dave:

Good point. But I especially noticed it in a sex scene. I don't know why. That's when the story needed to flow for me.

Bryan:

Yeah. Wow. I'm very discombobulated by the sudden camera movement.

I feel like D' Urville Martin thinks the 180 rule is you set up a scene and then immediately flip the camera 180 degrees to get it from the other side.

Dave:

It might as well be. Dolomite is going to go back to his old club where his secret stash of cash is hidden.

Bryan:

I love this scene because they're like, the guy is standing there as Dolomite's trying to rip up the carpet and get his secret stash of money. And the guy's just narrating what he's doing, like, oh, Dolomite, what are you doing here? Why are you kneeling in that corner?

Why are you tearing up the carpet? But you can tell this guy doesn't actually have lines. He's just riffing.

Dave:

Hey, don't you take that cash and Walk down the hallway. Hey, don't you walk across the main floor on your way out of here. I'm gonna get you. I'm. Oh, God. Hey, don't go out that door.

Like, that's what it feels like.

Bryan:

Amazing. Yeah.

Dave:

But lo and behold, in his old club, Willy Green is there.

Bryan:

Willie Green, he's the bad guy.

Dave:

Dolomite pays off his debt to Willie Greene in person and proceeds to beat the hell out of Green security just to let him know the baddest motherfucker around is and will forever be Dolomite.

Bryan:

Absolutely. Don't you forget it.

Dave:

I feel like it's a crime that we haven't mentioned the name Rudy Raymore yet.

Bryan:

You're right, it is a crime. And I believe what you meant to say was Rudy fucking Ray fucking Moore.

Dave:

Apologies to the entire Rudy Raymore family. You're right. I don't know where to talk about him when talking about this movie because it's everywhere. Like, the man is Dolomite.

He's the heart and soul of everything that's happening here and much more broadly in the world.

Bryan:

It's like, which is.

Dave:

This man is meteoric, unreal. I can't put that lightly. That there's a lot of people that come around into this world who do things to change things.

Rudy Ray Moore is one of those people.

Bryan:

Yeah. And it's amazing how easy it is for that to go under the radar.

Dave:

I don't even know if he changed culture or created culture.

Bryan:

Exactly.

Dave:

It's that big of a deal what he did.

Bryan:

Yeah, yeah. Meteoric is a good word.

Dave:

Fucking Ray. Fucking more. I don't want you to go unmentioned. We're going to get back to you. Yeah, in a bit.

Bryan:

A lot Dole of fucking might.

Dave:

Fucking might indeed.

Bryan:

So you remember that secret benefactor we talked about earlier?

Dave:

I sure do.

Bryan:

Turns out, turns out it's the corrupt Mayor Daly.

Dave:

No way.

Bryan:

He's the one who bailed Dolomite out. Why?

Well, because he is the kingpin of the city's drug trade and he figures, ah, it'll be easier to get Dolomite murdered in the streets than it is in a cell.

Dave:

This mayor is really leaning in hard to being a scumbag and I kind of like it. It gave me big time Toxic Avenger vibes.

Bryan:

Yeah. From the minute he's on screen, you're like, oh, this guy is slimy. Like, literally, he probably is moist to the touch.

Dave:

I don't want to touch this man. I don't want to shake his hand. I Don't want to be in the.

Bryan:

Same room with him.

Dave:

I think my nightmare would be being in an elevator with that man. Just. That's my only thought. And I feel like he'd be the type of person who. He would get in an elevator with you just be both of you.

And he would stand just a little too close.

Bryan:

Definitely. This man has no concept of personal space. None.

Dave:

None at all.

Bryan:

No. You could tell. That's the vibe he gives off.

Dave:

Dolomite is going to pay a visit to Reverend Gibbs. He's a holy man who is actually running guns for the mayor.

Bryan:

Shady business.

Dave:

Dolomite doesn't care about the sermon. He shakes the reverend down until he gives up the locations of every drug deal in the city.

Bryan:

Dolomite is doing a better job than the cops cleaning up these streets.

Dave:

Just had to shake down one reverend who got caught boning already once in this movie.

Bryan:

Yeah, he did. Dolemite finally makes his grand return to the stage at his nightclub. Willie Green shows up to offer a truce.

Dolomite instead insults him and the club turns into a war zone.

Dave:

As it should, it sounds like.

Bryan:

Right? You disrespected me in my own club. Said both of them.

Dave:

Unsure how this works. I don't think you could just say, here's cash. This is mine now.

Bryan:

This is mine again now. Still, I don't know.

Dave:

And it's called Dolomite Total Experience.

Bryan:

It's kind of hard for Willie Green to try to claim ownership.

Dave:

It's a little tricky. Unless, I don't know, maybe Dolomite threw his name back on there. But that is such a gross name for anything.

Bryan:

It really is. I think it's. Maybe it was like a Ruth's Chris kind of situation or was like Willie Greene's Dolomites.

Dave:

I don't know. The first reaction I had to seeing Dolemite's Total experience was I remember one of the first days I ever had working on a TV set.

We were filming at a strip club, and I think it was Long Island City or somewhere over there. And it was called Goldfingers Infinity Club.

Bryan:

That sounds gross.

Dave:

Extras who will do anything to be on camera refused to touch the stripper poles until they were properly cleaned. That's how gross this place was.

Bryan:

Oh, my God, that's awful. So Dolomite and Willie Green fight it out.

Dolomite gets shot, but he manages to take Green out with some help from Blakely, who is still definitely not a fed.

Dave:

Blakely, who stands over Willie Green, shoots him, looks at Dolomite, says Now it's not your problem. And then they leave.

Bryan:

Amazing. Oh, yeah. You beat the shit out of them. They're gonna want you for that. Tell you what. I'll shoot him in the face. Now they're gonna think it was me.

Dave:

I hope forensics were good in:

Bryan:

I don't know.

Dave:

There's so many serial killers going on then. So many.

Bryan:

It is the heyday. I don't think they know much about DNA yet.

Dave:

The world's about to get rocked.

Bryan:

Oh, no. I'm gonna have to answer for some things.

Dave:

Better get my count up before then, I guess.

Bryan:

Blaze of glory and all that.

Dave:

While Dolomite is in the hospital recovering, Pinky Ivan tries to assassinate the mayor at home while he is wearing only a bath towel on a corded phone in the toilet. But for some reason, he.

He's leaning out of the toilet to speak on the phone, but he's also whispering to stay quiet, despite already being in a room inside a room that he's choosing to lean out, therefore moving one room from this room. Inception.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

What is he doing?

Bryan:

I don't know, but I also. Pinky Yvonne, is pointing the gun directly at him.

In some shots and other ones, she's standing next to the room and pointing it into the room, even though he's to the side of the room. And the whole thing is madness.

Dave:

So it goes sideways. She accidentally kills the mayor's wife. She doesn't. That's not an accident. There's nothing accidental about that. That's a murder. I don't know.

Straight up murder.

Bryan:

I don't know. It's accidental discharge. It can happen to anyone. Go visit our Patreon.

Dave:

What a plug. He's a pro for a reason, folks. You can't teach this.

Bryan:

You. You could call that a segue.

Dave:

So after Pinky accidentally kills the mayor's wife, the mayor is going to strangle Pinky in a blind rage. But more importantly, he does all this in a bath towel, and never once do you see his penis. And these are very long shots. And it's impressive.

Bryan:

It's very impressive. And I actually thank the filmmakers for making sure that it transpired the way it did.

Dave:

Incredible how much care they took into hiding this man's junk in all of these action shots, all these long takes.

Bryan:

Yeah, it's like they had one focus for the scene, and it wasn't pulling up Pinky Ivan's pants. Her underwear. That's like, halfway down her ass. It was making sure this guy's Dong does not appear on screen.

Dave:

Success. Also, he's now gonna try to flee.

Bryan:

The country, as you do after you murder somebody. Blakely reveals that he is an undercover FBI agent. I know. I never saw it coming.

He tracks down the mayor at an airfield and guns him down, and then returns to the hospital to help the wounded Dolomite ambush the last of the hitmen. Dolomite ends the movie as a free man, having cleared his name and avenged his nephew.

Dave:

Cool.

Bryan:

He also got back his club, so,.

Dave:

You know, that's something. You're absolutely right.

Bryan:

It's like a win, win, win. And then also Pinky died. So, like a win, win, win, lose.

Dave:

That's a lot of wins, though.

Bryan:

It's a lot of wins. And he's got more Dolomite girls, as they're all listed in the credits, as.

Dave:

oo. But that is Dolomite from:

Bryan:

The audacity.

Dave:

This is a complicated one, because when you watch this movie, it's not audacious.

Bryan:

I agree.

Dave:

But when you learn about this movie and learn that this was the first of its kind doing this, it's audacious as hell.

Bryan:

Pretty wild, because, yeah, watching it, you'd be like, yeah, okay, this is. This is one of those movies that's like this. And it just turns out it's like the first of those movies that's like this.

Dave:

Dolomite is made during the height of the black exploitation period, and the blaxploitation period does not last long. It's only about 10 years long. It's just that decade, for the most part.

Bryan:

And then there's a lot of homages to and after there, but tons and.

Dave:

Tons and tons and tons. See Quentin Tarantino movies. That's it. That's pretty much it.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

This movie.

It's a weird watch, admittedly, when you don't quite know what you're getting yourself into, because there's things that happen out of nowhere, and it's like, I understand the cultural difference. I. I get that, and I can accept that.

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

But there's things that happen that I didn't understand where you have these moments of, like, these rhyming phrases that just come out of nowhere. And while watching, I'm like, okay, this is long. It's happening. It's still happening. Is acting is fucking phenomenal.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

I don't know why this is happening, though.

Bryan:

For some reason, we are going on and on and on about the Titanic right now.

Dave:

But then now reading about this movie, it turns out that this is a toast.

Bryan:

A toast.

Dave:

And this and Rudy Ray Moore often get credited for creating rap and hip hop here.

Bryan:

Unreal.

Dave:

Here in Dolomite. Here. Right here. That's crazy. Like, to the point, like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg will call him the godfather of rap and hip hop.

I was not ready for that type of cultural impact from this movie. And it's like, I knew it was an important movie. It's out there. You hear it in the cultural zeitgeist stuff. I was not ready for that.

Bryan:

Yeah, that is my biggest takeaway from this was how critical this was in making hip hop and rap a thing and really making it culturally mainstream.

Dave:

And it became the culture of, yeah, these artists doing the hustle and showing the. The hard work that they put in with what they were wearing and how they were able to afford it.

It's like, no, they were showing that they earned this.

Bryan:

Yeah, it's.

Dave:

It's mind blowing what Dolomite actually did.

Bryan:

Yeah, it's absolutely insane. I mean, especially because this is what, a hundred thousand dollar movie that was made just on a whim.

Like, Rudy Ray Moore had been using this Dolomite character in his stand up for a while. But the idea behind this. Oh, okay.

Dave:

Because the idea comes from a man named Rico, right?

And this man named Rico would come into the record store where Rudy Raymore was an assistant manager, and he would start doing these toasts, these rhythmic rhyming narratives. And Rudy Raymore just started recording them and he recognized that, like, okay, I understand that this is a toast, but there's more to it here.

Like, this is funny. There's comedic value here, but also there's art here, Right? What is this?

Bryan:

What is this weird intersection of comedy and almost music and slam poetry and this weird combination of things? And he did adopt the Dolemite character into his alter. It's his alter ego on stage for Stand up.

And then eventually was like, okay, let's make a movie about Dolomite. And that is what kind of kickstarted so much.

Dave:

It's hard to explain how much exactly.

Bryan:

Like the dominoes that had to fall for everything to go the way it did is crazy.

Dave:

The audacity.

Bryan:

The audacity.

Dave:

I'm going with a 10.

Bryan:

Yeah. I think it's hard to argue against a 10 on the audacity in the.

Dave:

Moment was not high. When I got to know what this movie was. Holy shit.

Bryan:

Agreed. While watching it, I was like, okay,.

Dave:

Yeah, I watched it again. Had to.

Bryan:

Really?

Dave:

Yeah.

Bryan:

I was.

Dave:

After reading about it, I was like, oh, my God. What? Hold on a sec. And watching it again. I understand a lot now of what they say about this movie. This is a fucking masterpiece.

Bryan:

see Dolomite is my name. The:

Dave:

The biopic.

Bryan:

The biopic. It's basically. It's the disaster artist to the room, if you will. It is. So I definitely want to check that out. But the audacity is a 10.

Next is the heart. And it's going to be hard for this to go low, too.

Dave:

It's not. Because it's probably going to go up to an 11.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

Because not only did Rudy Ray Moore really give the world rap and hip hop, he also came up with a way of selling his music and his albums. And it was out of the trunk of his car. Something that you see still all the time, the hustle.

The people on the street in New York City, Times Square, trying to give out their albums. That's from Rudy Ray Moore trying to make his money, trying to make a dollar, trying to get his art out there to make more art.

Wild Rudy Ray Moore, $100,000. That's all this movie costs.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

He only raised $30,000 from his shady record store owners. He put up the other $70,000 of his own money for this thing.

Bryan:

If that's not hard, what is?

Dave:

He shot it all, for the most part, at the Dunbar Hotel, insanely famous Los Angeles hotel. During, I guess in like 30s to 60s period.

40S, 60s, somewhere in there when hotels were segregated in Los Angeles, the Dunbar was the hotel for African Americans go to. So you had every famous black person who went to Los Angeles stayed at the Dunbar.

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

It's an insanely famous hotel in LA,.

Bryan:

And they shot it in 17 days,.

Dave:

Which is also nuts.

Bryan:

It's insane.

Dave:

But as Los Angeles got less segregated, this hotel started to fall into disrepair. And at this point, it had just been sold. And Rudy Ray Moore cut a deal with the owner and said, hey, you're not doing anything with this building.

There's no one here. I'll give you a little bit of rent. Let me shoot a movie here.

And the guy said, hey, a lot of people around a building that just housed a shitload of, like, heroin people. And this is going to be like security. Yeah. Sold. Shoot your movie.

Bryan:

Sure.

Dave:

Have a ball.

Bryan:

You want to pay me to watch over this place? You got it.

Dave:

So we shot this movie more or less in a derelict hotel in Los Angeles. And Stole shots on the street whenever he had the chance.

Bryan:

Stolen shots.

Dave:

Rudy Raymore wanted this so badly, and he made it happen.

Bryan:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dave:

And then so much more. I'm going into the 11 because I. I feel like going higher would be against the rules. But just know I want. Just know I want to.

Bryan:

The first 11 we've ever given for heart.

Dave:

Oh, yeah, that says something for these.

Bryan:

Yeah. Next up, we have technical incompetence.

Dave:

This is a fun one right now. After reading about this movie again.

Bryan:

Yeah. This is one that, while watching, I would have said it's low, but then finding out some shit went down.

Dave:

What shit went down?

Bryan:

Well, a lot of shots of this movie. The boom mic is visible. It becomes a running joke. It's a lot for people watching.

Dave:

It cannot stress how much this boom mic is in this movie. It's a lot.

Bryan:

It's a ton.

It turns out that when they transferred this thing from Xenon VHS to DVD transfer, the film was originally transferred without the proper ratio gate of 1.85 to 1. So more of the top and bottom of the frame became visible in the dvd. So if you have, like an original vhs, you don't see all these boom mics.

Dave:

No, it's pretty much they took out the map, the black bars. They just removed them and went full screen with it. And you see everything. It's the completely wrong ratio.

Bryan:

Matting is just as important as framing, it turns out.

Dave:

Turns out I can't believe it either. The 180 rule is not even considered for this movie.

Bryan:

No. Not even a little bit. And it's noticeable. I put it out several times while watching it.

Dave:

You shouldn't notice things like that.

Bryan:

Right, right. And there were definitely some audio issues too.

Dave:

Yeah. I can get over audio issues, though. Even though there's a part where I was trying to find where they were hiding the mic.

Because there's certain times where, like, cars are driving and then you would suddenly hear the Foley get funny. You're like, that's not Foley. He's recording that. Wild. Where is that mic hiding?

Bryan:

Where did you put it?

Dave:

It's not an incompetent movie. Not totally.

Bryan:

It's not. Not totally. There are portions that are. But I think on the whole, it.

Dave:

Is not incompetent, which is surprising considering that the crew was UCLA film students.

Bryan:

Yeah.

Dave:

Nerdivery Moore wasn't a kid when he made this thing.

Bryan:

How old was he?

Dave:

hey made this. He was born in:

Bryan:

Holy shit.

Dave:

Baddest motherfucker alive, huh?

Bryan:

That's insane.

Dave:

It is insane.

Bryan:

I feel like it needs to be said, black don't crack.

Dave:

You're absolutely right. But I want to say it again, that a man in his mid-40s who had never done any of this before.

Bryan:

That's wild.

Dave:

Set out to make this on his own and did it. It's never too late.

Bryan:

There you go.

Dave:

If this isn't inspiring, I don't know what is.

Bryan:

I would have never guessed that he was that old.

Dave:

No, never, never, never, never.

Bryan:

That broke my brain a little bit.

Dave:

Technical incompetence.

Bryan:

4. Yeah, I agree.

Dave:

Low budget ingenuity. He pretty much got all of his production offices, all of his sets, everything at the Dunbar Hotel. They moved right in. They all literally lived there.

Bryan:

That's amazing.

Dave:

And then they drove vans on the streets, dove out, shot the things, dove back in the vans.

Bryan:

That's how you gotta do it.

Dave:

Is it ingenuity? It's good producing, that's for sure.

Bryan:

It's. Yeah. I mean, to do all this in 17 days is pretty impressive.

Dave:

Seven.

Bryan:

Seven.

Dave:

Why not? Which is crazy, because I know how much money this movie made.

Bryan:

You do.

Dave:

Because I might be the only one that apparently. Because no one knows. The numbers vary so much, it's crazy.

Bryan:

The next category is genre exploitation. And I think it's time to answer the question that everybody's been asking. What is blaxploitation?

Dave:

Blaxploitation is a really complicated genre.

Bryan:

Yes.

Dave:

cated because it comes out of:

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

Yeah, I know. Sound of Music west side Story won best pictures in this area. I get it. I know what I said.

Bryan:

Listen, everybody likes a throwback every once.

Dave:

In a while during this time, you have people moving out to the suburbs, mostly white families.

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

So the theaters are starting to get crushed because there's just not as many people going to them anymore. The studios start seeing that there's movies made for black audiences on the cheap that are selling out every single night.

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

So the studios start turning out movies quick and cheap. It's black artists making these movies that are empowering black people and black culture.

But at the same time, you're still all doing the whole Hollywood thing on the other side.

Bryan:

The money still going to the very white studio system.

Dave:

So it's a very complicated idea that is still talked about today of selling out of is, is that what this is? And the answer is, it is. And when is it okay? And the answer is, I don't know. I'm not totally fine.

Bryan:

Right. Like, it's also interesting because this is a time when cultural misrepresentation of black people has been very commonplace in the media.

So to give them the voices to make their own films was important for not only black culture, but for society as a whole to see these stories and understand what's happening. It's hard to say hard line that it's selling out.

Dave:

No, but it's 100% exploitation. It's in the name.

Bryan:

Like, that's 100%. It's exploitation because, like, at the end of the day, the money is still going to Hollywood.

Dave:

Exactly. And I mean, the term blaxploitation got coined by Junius Griffin, who at the time was the head of the Hollywood naacp.

And he said it as a protest, and it stuck.

So it's a really complicated genre because it made its money by reinforcing a lot of stereotypes, also by creating a lot of really important cultural things going forward. It's really complicated. We're definitely not the right people to talk about it.

Bryan:

No, we are not. But, yeah, like. Like anything in America's history, it has its positive notes and its obvious negative notes.

Dave:

Right. And by:

A lot of it was just repeating all of now these cliches. So people kind of got bored of it. It kind of went away.

Bryan:

Right.

Dave:

all sorts of movies from the:

And you could hear it in his dialogue in his movies, 100%, just how similar the way that they're speaking is, and, like, this braggadocious manner that they are constantly puffing their chest out. You see it big time in Pulp Fiction with Samuel L. Jackson's character.

Bryan:

The DNA runs hard through Tarantino's work, but film in general, it does.

Dave:

And just to kind of go a little bit of full circle here, the Durban Hotel, when it was built, it was built to be the location for the NAACP's meetings on the West Coast.

Bryan:

Oh, wow.

Dave:

And then go forward, what, 25, 30 years, the biggest black exploitation cultural phenomenon movie is Filmed there when it's completely derelict on its way out.

Bryan:

There you go full circle. So genre exploitation.

Dave:

It's an 11. It's the biggest 11 that's ever been given. Yeah, this is in the middle of the genre. Like the genre in 10 years. This is the middle.

Bryan:

And it's also genre defining.

Dave:

Crazy, right?

Bryan:

I'd say it exploits the genre a lot.

Dave:

Just a lot. No, no. They don't call it dramasploitation, right?

Bryan:

They sure don't.

Dave:

Comedy exploitation.

Bryan:

Comedy sploitation.

Dave:

You exploit the funnies. That's not fair.

Bryan:

Hey, we're making a crime sploitation film over here.

Dave:

We just call that true crime.

Bryan:

Crime exploitation.

Dave:

Yeah. You're exploiting the crime to make your own money. Yeah, no, I get it.

Bryan:

We're exploiting fake crimes, though. Fictional crimes.

Dave:

Who's fictional?

Bryan:

Apparently, John C. Reilly.

Dave:

Apparently.

Bryan:

Hey, guys, the only trinity is you're.

Dave:

Gonna come with me this season.

Bryan:

Well, I sure hope that nothing crazy happens in this murder.

Dave:

That'd be pretty bad if there was another murder. Another murder? That would be double murder.

Bryan:

Oh, man. A murderer at my murder.

Dave:

I already saw the double murder. Which one do I solve first? The fresh one or the old one? They say it's the first 48 hours, but when do you start it?

Bryan:

This is some real crime.

Dave:

Exploitation, apparently.

Bryan:

Seth Rogen.

Dave:

Shut up because I lost the bracelet.

Bryan:

The Holy Trinity is our next category. Blood, boobs, and booms.

Dave:

We definitely had blood. We definitely had boobs.

Bryan:

We had so many boobs.

Dave:

Did we have any booms, though?

Bryan:

I don't think we really did.

Dave:

That's unfortunate.

Bryan:

That is unfortunate because there were several times in this movie where I was like, if that car blew up right now, this would be a perfect movie. Perfect B movie.

Dave:

I know we say meatloaf math, two out of three ain't bad, but this I was really pulling for.

Bryan:

I really wanted them to get the full. The full Monty, but two thirds Monty. Two thirds Monty is what we got. Which is a 7 out of 10.

Or do we want to bump it up to an 8 just because of the sheer amount of boobs?

Dave:

It's a lot of boobs, but it should be a seven.

Bryan:

Okay, then a seven. It. It remains.

Dave:

It's not an egregious amount of boobs. It's a lot.

Bryan:

That's fair. That's. I don't know where the even eight for Pink Flamingos.

Dave:

So Pink Flamingos had a lot of boobs, though.

Bryan:

And others. Yeah.

Dave:

Why? Stop it. Stop it.

Bryan:

I know, I know. Oh, God. Never be able to hear that again. Memorable characters, all of them.

Dave:

Hamburger Pimp, Dolomite, Willie Green. They're all terrific.

Bryan:

Yeah. Apparently Hamburger Pimp was just a guy that they found because they couldn't find anybody to cast that was right for the role.

So they just, like, were walking down the street and they found Vanius Rackstraw, and he was just a real name guy.

Dave:

That name is 100% directly out of Narnia or Lord of the Rings or something. That is not real.

Bryan:

That's a guy who was in the movie. And then they're like, okay, we're gonna put your name in the credits.

And he had to give them a false identity very quickly because he did not want to be found. How'd you go with the name Vanius? Well, I just shot a scene where I was shooting heroin, so I was like, venius, that's my name.

God, I will never forget Dolomite. I will never forget the hamburger pimp. Mayor Daly, honestly.

Dave:

Pretty good, too. I'm going to go with an 8. This is a pretty good one.

Bryan:

This is a pretty good one. And now we have quotes.

Dave:

Oh, God. Where do you begin with this one?

Bryan:

Well, the obvious place to start is Dolomite is my name and fucking up motherfuckers is my game.

Dave:

That right there alone is enough to get you a nine.

Bryan:

Yeah, I guess. The cinematographer, Nicholas Joseph Von Sternberg, had to cover himself up with a blanket because he kept laughing during the shooting.

He couldn't stop laughing, so he had to physically cover himself.

Dave:

I'm so mean I make medicine sick I'm the man that'll fight a grizzly bear with a switch and give him the first bite.

Bryan:

If you see a ghost, stab that.

Dave:

I'll knock a man out with a look and bury him with a stare I'm the man that'll fight a rattlesnake and give him the first bite Gotta.

Bryan:

Give a lot of first bites if you're tough. Reverend Gibbs had a good one, too. Just look at that damn Watergate scandal.

Now, if the leader of our country is stealing and getting away clean, what the hell do they expect us to do?

Dave:

Yeah, we all thought it. There again, too, is great. We all know quotes. Fuck, this is at least a 910. We're way up there.

Bryan:

I'm saying a nine.

Dave:

I'll go nine. That's fine. This is crazy how many there are in this movie.

Bryan:

It's wild.

Dave:

Dolomite in my name and rapping and tapping. That's my game.

Bryan:

I just fuck you the way that Rudy Ray Moore delivers the word motherfucker.

Dave:

The thing is, it's like Samuel Jackson delivers it, but Rudy Ray Moore fucking delivers it.

Bryan:

Oh, my God. It's like he's singing. It's so good.

Dave:

God, it's poetic. It's like it is. That is the voice of a generation. That is the coup of the doves that I want to hear upon my awakening to the morning light.

That's what I want is Rudy Raymore in my ear. Wake up, motherfucker.

Bryan:

Open casket, John Woo doves going motherfucker. Entertainment value.

Dave:

I'm gonna go with a seven. I'll tell you. Because the first time I watched I was like, okay, that was pretty entertaining. I want to go five.

The second time I watched it, I went, fuck, I get it a whole lot more right now. And I kind of went nine in my head. Like it didn't get to a full 10. But watch it. I was just sucked in, completely locked in.

Bryan:

Fascinating. I need to rewatch it. That's what I'm hearing.

Dave:

Yeah. It's not for everyone to rewatch. I'll go with that.

Bryan:

That's fair. I could see that.

Dave:

But if you read up on the history of things and it's kind of a really neat way to go back. I like that.

Bryan:

Yeah. I think it's worth mentioning that we watched this movie during our Monday midnight movie madness. That doesn't happen at midnight.

It happens at 10pm Eastern on our discord. And it just happened to be the Monday this past Monday, which was April 20, which is something of a holiday for some people.

And when I watched this movie, I was, was. I was not low.

Dave:

No, you were celebrating.

Bryan:

Yeah. I was the right way to do it during the holiday and I'm curious how that affected my viewing experience. I want to revisit it more sound mindedly.

Dave:

Half a tree. No, not a full tree.

Bryan:

Not a full tree.

Dave:

Got it.

Bryan:

Maybe from like a, like a high bush.

Dave:

Maybe like a nice shrub. Like a two layer. I know it's Shrubber. His name's Tim. Tim the Shrubber.

Bryan:

Tim the Shrubber. Seven for entertainment value.

I'm in agreement with that because I do feel like this is a movie that when while you're watching it, you're not getting the full story, the larger cultural, behind the scenes story you're not getting while you're actually watching it.

Dave:

No.

Bryan:

But it's still worth the experience. So I think a 7 is perfect. Our final category is cult ability.

Dave:

So when this came out, it was a massive hit.

Bryan:

That's not surprising.

Dave:

Made between one and $12 million video. Yes.

Bryan:

Who knows?

Dave:

On $100,000 budget. Doesn't matter. That's a big old number. That's terrific.

Bryan:

That's huge.

Dave:

The movie did have its boom mic issues and it's kind of technical flaws during the old DVD transfer. But it was also an important time because kind of gained midnight status during that same time as it should. And then it took off from there.

ut going forward now into the:

phy, with Dolomite is my name:

Bryan:

But you only do for the best B movies cultability.

Dave:

I would love to to be in a movie theater at midnight with anyone watching this movie.

Bryan:

I 100% agree.

Dave:

10. 10 Is a 10.

Bryan:

We have a total.

Dave:

It's got to be close.

Bryan:

Our previous highest total of our aired episodes. Not counting the Toxic Avenger that we did on Patreon while we were still feeling this thing out.

Dave:

It's an 86 for Toxic Avenger. It's an appropriate number.

Bryan:

Yes.

Dave:

That's a really good benchmark.

Bryan:

Our current leader at an 84. Pink flamingos. Dolomite comes in also at an 84.

Dave:

Oh my God. So basically, if you put a ton of boobs in your movie, you're gonna get an 84. I get it. Eight is the most boob of the numbers.

Bryan:

It truly is.

Dave:

I have no problem saying you should watch this movie. This is so fucking good. Dolomite. Dolomite. Dolomite. Go watch Dolomite. It's a B movie and it's a great B movie.

Bryan:

It's a B movie, but it's one of the most cultural than that significant B movies ever. But we're done talking about Dolomite. I want to know what we're talking about in two weeks. May 13th is our next episode.

Dave:

Ah, may the 13th be with you, as they say.

Bryan:

That is what they say.

Dave:

So let me just pop this into our good old AI friend and get us an answer of what we're going to watch next. Bryan, are you ready for this?

Bryan:

I hope so. I'm sitting down.

Dave:

going to be Talking about the:

Bryan:

That is very exciting.

Dave:

An 80 minute long gem of a movie. I can't wait.

Bryan:

Until then, be sure to rate, review, subscribe, share. Join us on Patreon patreon.com/macguffinstudios —that's mac like the burger, guffin like a muffin— where you're gonna find all of our exclusive content spanning three shows and a bunch of other stuff that doesn't quite fit within those categories. But we're having fun.

Dave:

The smirk and the satisfaction that you had on your face when you said guffin like a muffin.

Bryan:

Guffin like a muffin is one of my favorite things to say.

Dave:

I was like watching all three of my children take their first step at one time. It was that level of pride.

Bryan:

Join us on Discord where we're chatting it up and we will be screening our Monday Midnight Movie Madness. That's not at midnight. On May 4th, we'll be doing The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms just like they said.

Dave:

May the 13th be with you.

Bryan:

Yep, you nailed it. Actually. Join us on social media, @bmovieboys on Facebook and Instagram, send your emails to bmovieboyspod@gmail.com and thank you for listening.

Dave:

Bryan, do you have anything else?

Bryan:

That's it for me.

Dave:

Fantastic. Thank you guys all so much for listening. Thanks for hanging out with us. This one was amazing.

I'm sure The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms is gonna be fucking phenomenal. I can't wait. But until then, just like Dolomite would have said had he been wishing his friends a fond farewell... Good journey."

Bryan:

"Good Journey."

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