Unlock the transformative power of proper breathing and discover how it can elevate your health and well-being!

In this episode, you'll feel inspired as we explore actionable strategies to improve breathing, oral posture, and sleep with Myofunctional Therapist and expert Karese Laguerre. Learn practical tips to overcome challenges like sleep apnea, anxiety, ADHD and focus issues while embracing intentional growth and realistic goals for a healthier, happier you. From enhancing your energy levels to boosting your daily productivity, this conversation is packed with insights that will help you connect with your core self and prioritize progress over perfection.

Whether you're a parent wanting to better support your child or looking to optimize your own health, this video offers the tools you need to thrive. Don’t miss out on these simple yet impactful changes that can transform your life!

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CHAPTERS:

00:30 - Karese Laguerre Introduction

01:21 - Myofunctional Therapy Explained

02:08 - Personal Journey in Myofunctional Therapy

09:34 - Mindset Shift in Health Approach

11:04 - Understanding Proper Oral Posture

17:40 - Correcting Oral Posture Techniques

20:32 - Supporting Children's Oral Health

24:52 - Sleep and ADHD Connection

27:50 - Identifying Sleep Issues

29:10 - Sleep Issues Sneaking Up on Us

32:50 - Sleep's Impact on Allergies

37:54 - Empowerment in Health

44:14 - Debunking Common Myths

45:51 - Getting Started with Myofunctional Therapy

47:10 - Life Changes from Myofunctional Therapy

49:20 - Final Words of Wisdom

CONTACT Karese Laguerre:

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FB, IG, TikTok: @themyospot

LinkedIn: @karese.laguerre

Website URL: www.themyospot.com

Amazon link for the book:

Accomplished: How to Sleep Better, Eliminate Burnout, and Execute Goals

https://a.co/d/9toeyQO

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES (FREE):

Core Happiness Website: www.corehappiness.com

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So we know that when you are going without sleep for

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elongated periods of time, your brain

does not get to do its own proper detox.

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Our brain only does its cleansing routine

at night during sleep, and when it doesn't

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get to do that it can't function the same.

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Kacee: Welcome to the show.

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Today we are joined by Karis Lag,

a registered dental hygienist

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and myofunctional therapist.

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Karis is the founder of Myo Spot where

she helps clients overcome issues

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like sleep apnea, TMJ disorders and

anxiety through myofunctional therapy.

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She's also the author of Accomplished

How to Sleep Better, eliminate

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Burnout and Execute Goals.

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In this episode we'll explore

how breathing and oral posture

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can help impact overall health.

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We will also explore how small changes

in breathing and oral posture can

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lead to significant improvements

in health and overall wellbeing.

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So if you're struggling with sleep,

struggling with focus, or just

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looking to enhance your overall

health, this conversation is for you.

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Enjoy

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Carice.

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Welcome.

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I'm so excited to have you here.

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Thank you so much for joining the show.

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karese laguerre: Thank you for having me.

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I'm excited.

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Kacee: I wanna start off first before

going into your background, because

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I know a lot of your journey is in,

myofunctional therapy, but can you

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tell us for the people who may not be

familiar with that term, what that is?

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karese laguerre: So bio functional

therapy is kind of like having a personal

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trainer of sorts, but only for the muscles

below the eyes and above the shoulders.

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So in this wonderful area that no one

ever thinks about working out, there's

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over a hundred different muscles and.

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I really help to strengthen

and coordinate them.

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That way we can get proper function

because a lot of important material

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is in this area, , specifically how we

breathe and how we eat, how we speak,

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how we, you know, do a lot of fun

tasks that keep us going day to day.

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Kacee: And I know that your

journey into Marrow Functional

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Therapy was a personal one,

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karese laguerre: Yeah.

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Kacee: a little bit about

how you first discovered this

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world and what got you into it?

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karese laguerre: So it was my children.

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I'm a mom of four and as a mother

of four I, I believe that most other

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parents, and I never like to speak for

everybody, but I think this is pretty

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much across the board, uh, most.

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Parents, when somebody

asks you, how's everything?

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We give the highlight reel, like we're

always talking about all the good stuff.

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This one's got a dance recital.

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That one just won a soccer tournament.

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Like we got all the good stuff ready to

go, but there's a lot of things that like

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we don't talk about under the surface and.

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My original licensure is as a registered

dental hygienist and I was working for a

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pediatric dentist, and , I told her about

some of the stuff that was going on kind

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of underneath the surface, like the things

I would never talk to anybody else about.

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So out of my four kids, I

have one boy, he's the oldest.

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He's been disappointed every time

I've gotten pregnant since, but

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he, uh, had a lot of issues with

like emotional and like just.

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Being able to regulate his behavior.

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So a lot of sensory issues.

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And so he was very, very difficult.

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I remember the teachers from kindergarten

telling me that he had a hard time

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focusing and staying on task, and

I was like, oh, but he's five.

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And then we played that

game well, but he's six.

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Oh, but he's seven.

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Like, what?

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7-year-old wants to

pay attention in class.

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We played that game for a bit too long.

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, And around the age of, . Eight or nine

where it was looking like he probably

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wasn't gonna make it through fifth grade.

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It was, okay, we gotta actually

do something about this.

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And we took him to a pediatric

neurologist and boom, diagnosed A DHD.

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We will come back to his

story in just a little bit.

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My daughters, my oldest daughter,

had every sleep issue under the sun.

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You name it, she experienced it.

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So whether it was night terrors,

sleepwalking, tossing and turning, like

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falling outta the bed, middle of the

night, blood curdling, scream from those

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night terrors, the snoring, the grinding.

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She bed wet too every single

night for his 10 years.

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It didn't matter what we did, if it

was like, okay, no liquids, like four

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hours before bed, or like, you have

to go to the bathroom before bed or

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we'll make you go twice before bed.

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Bedwetting was guaranteed every

single night for 10 years straight,

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and my youngest two daughters had

a lot of upper respiratory issues,

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so I don't know if anybody else can

relate, but I had those two kids

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that were constant nose congested,

ear infection, throat infection.

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It felt like every time I could probably

predict it, like we're going to the

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doctor and it's either , an ear infection,

or their throat is infected like.

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One of the two.

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'cause that's what it always was.

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So we were on this constant cycle

of antibiotics with those two.

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And it was in talking to that

pediatric dentist that I learned that

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all of that, though, it sounds very,

very different and these children

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are very biologically similar.

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It's all connected, and it was all

connected to how they were utilizing

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these muscles in my wonderful area of

expertise and how they were breathing

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and that all of that really, really

affected the emotional, the regulatory

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control issues My son had, the sleep

issues, my daughter had the respiratory

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and infection issues that my young, uh.

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Young, young two had, and it was just

absolutely mind blowing, game changing.

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So I always talk about

my son for this part.

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So let's go back to him for just

a second, if we go back to his

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story, we spent a year and a half

after he was diagnosed with A DHD.

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And I'm telling you, we waited to

see the best pediatric neurologist.

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At that time we were living

in New Jersey and she spent.

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Maybe no more than 15 minutes

with us, asked us some questions

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off a little questionnaire.

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Boom.

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That was his diagnosis.

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A year and a half, we went through

three different types of medication.

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Every six months we saw her and it was

like we get a new script because none

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of it's working, and that's really

all you can do with a DHD, right?

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His.

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Just medication.

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But I had discovered and had that

conversation with the pediatric dentist

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as we were coming up to our next visit.

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And so I started to tell the pediatric

neurologist when we went back, I

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think I wanna go a different route.

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I don't want a fourth medication.

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I wanna go a different route.

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I wanna look into his sleep and I

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And immediately she stopped me.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Didn't let me finish my thought,

my sentence, anything said.

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You never told me he

had issues with sleep.

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And I said, well, you

know, you never asked.

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So there's that part, but I never told

her there were issues with his sleep.

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I also didn't know there

were issues with her sleep.

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'cause I.

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I was never asked these questions,

and so she began to tell me what I had

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already known from the pediatric dentist.

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This pediatric neurologist is now

beginning to tell me that there's a

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70% overlap between the symptoms in

children who have sleep deprivation,

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so they're not getting good enough

quality of sleep or long enough duration

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of sleep, or they have some sort of

disorder that is disrupting their sleep.

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70%.

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Overlap in the symptoms that present for

that and the symptoms that present for

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ADHD So there was a very real possibility

the entire time we've been medicating

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him that there was something else.

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That there was something else and

we never once talked about it.

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And that.

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It set me off.

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It set me off as a parent, you know,

because A DHD is just one of those things.

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There's no blood work you can take for it.

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There is no MRI or CAT scan that

you're gonna, oh, there it is.

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There's that A DHD gene.

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It's all symptom-based.

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And so not having that differential

diagnosis made a big, big difference.

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And once I started doing the

work with him, I dove into

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myofunctional therapy very selfishly.

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To help address my own children.

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But once I started to see the changes

and I really saw them, and I like to

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say I met them for the first time on the

other side of all of this stuff, where

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they could really flourish, uninhibited

by all of these things that were really.

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I don't know.

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I wanna say like preventing them

from being their full selves.

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So not to say that maybe they

weren't their full selves, but

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there was so much more under there.

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Kacee: Mm-hmm.

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karese laguerre: And so once I saw

that, I was like, everybody needs this.

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Everybody needs this.

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So many more parents we're,

none of us are talking about it.

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We're all keeping it kind of surface

level when somebody says, how are you?

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Kacee: Yeah.

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Because it's, it's almost like

missing one question just kinda

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leads you down in a whole different

avenue that you never would've known.

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And most parents don't know that.

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So if a doctor's

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karese laguerre: Yes.

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Kacee: Asking or inquiring, then it's

like, how do you know what, what to bring

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up or what would affect a diagnosis or

not, or create something else like, so

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that is so fascinating and it's always

interesting to me too, how, um, a personal

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struggle or personal experience can

often be the driver for the, our purpose,

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And just kind of that push down.

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whether you do a deep dive or whether you

are looking into something and whether you

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make it your career, I always find that

that's very interesting how that happens.

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How did this realization happen, like

in terms of affecting your mindset

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shift of how you approach health

both personally and professionally?

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karese laguerre: Oh, I love that.

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Um.

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How did it shift how I approach health?

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I really changed 150%.

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I felt like as soon as I discovered

there was something wrong with the

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breathing, I knew that there had

to be other things that were wrong,

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and so I wanted to get to the root.

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Of everything.

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And so we started seeking

things out of the diet.

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We started changing over

a lot of things that way.

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We were more on a natural trajectory

of health as opposed to what we were

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doing, which was all traditional

medicine, which to that point,

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I felt had not worked for me.

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At that point.

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They had kind of left me.

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Without many answers

or without any resolve.

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The children just kind of carried on

in the same pattern for a while, so.

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It just shifted the way that

I thought I wanted to go.

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A bit more natural, holistic.

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Let's look at all the alternatives.

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If nobody's talking to me about

sleep, there are other things

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they're not talking to me about too.

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So let's start taking things out.

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Let's remove the dairy.

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Uh, let's remove the gluten.

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And then we started removing a lot

of other things from the diet too.

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Taking down some of the processed

things, reducing the sugar, like

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we just changed over lifestyle.

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Let's start moving more as a family.

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It was a big shift.

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Kacee: Yeah.

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you mentioned in your work , that

poor oral posture can impact

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essentially your whole body.

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karese laguerre: Yeah.

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Kacee: Can you walk us through just like

some symptoms that you found surprising

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that people might not realize that are

connected to the way that they breathe

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or the way that they hold their mouth?

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karese laguerre: Yeah.

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So let's just start off with what is.

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Proper oral posture because

a lot of people are just

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unaware as to what that is.

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And so I have a one minute breath

test that we can kind of do

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together, and I'll talk about what

proper posture is once everybody

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kind of determines what theirs is.

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So if you're sitting and

you're able to, and you're not

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listening to this while driving.

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If you're driving, pay

attention to the road.

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But think about this later on, if

you're sitting and you're able to.

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Plant both feet on the ground.

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I want you to sit up as nice and tall

as you can be mindful of your posture,

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and I want you to, with closed lips,

take a deep inhale through your nose.

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And then you're gonna exhale through

the nose, and I want you to repeat that.

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And you're gonna do that

about three or four times.

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Now as you're doing that,

I'm gonna keep talking.

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Just keep breathing.

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Inhale.

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Exhale through the nose.

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I want you to just be really

internally reflective.

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I want you to think about where

your tongue is, in your mouth,

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how your teeth are resting.

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Are your teeth together?

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Is your tongue high?

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Is it in the middle of your mouth?

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Is it down low?

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Is it half up?

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Just process it.

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And think about it, and as you're coming

out of what's possibly that fourth

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inhale and exhale from the nose, and

you're more aware of where things are,

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let me tell you that proper rest posture

involves yes, predominant nasal breathing.

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So if you were very uncomfortable or

unable to do that because three or

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four breaths through your nose was

challenging or difficult, you're already

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in an improper posture, but predominant

nasal breathing with lips, closed teeth.

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Slightly apart.

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You don't want your teeth together.

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Your teeth are gonna be bracing,

and that's most likely a lot of jaw

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problems that you might have, but teeth

slightly apart and tongue suctioned

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lightly against the whole palette.

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So from the front, just behind the teeth.

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From the front all the way to the

back, like where your uvula is, and

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for those who are unfamiliar with

that term, your uvula is that dangly

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ball in the middle of your throat.

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When you open your

mouth, you should see it.

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If you don't see it, that's another red

flag we'll talk about later, I'm sure.

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But your tongue should be taking up all

of the space in the roof of your mouth.

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That's proper rest posture.

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A lot of great things happen when

you're in proper rest posture.

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When you are in proper rest

posture, you're able to adequately

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stimulate the nasal floor.

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We need our nose for breathing.

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Our bodies were designed for that.

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The nose is going to naturally

warm and humidify the air

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that is entering the body.

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We're gonna produce nitric oxide,

which is gonna help that oxygen

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bond to the red blood cells for our

hemoglobin so that things can kind of.

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Go through the body and we can

breathe adequately and get all

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that oxygen where it needs to be.

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We're gonna be able to get our lower

third of our lungs filled so we'll

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be able to get more oxygen and really

adequately oxygenate the back of the

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tongue being connected to the soft palate

and like the back portion, if everybody's

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unfamiliar with their soft palates, the

back portion of the roof of your mouth.

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That connection is incredibly

important for our vagus nerve.

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Our vagus nerve is one of the

biggest nerves of our cranial

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nerves, and it powers everything.

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It is like the battery, I

should say, of your body.

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That is where all your organs

get their ability to function.

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That is.

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How we regulate our

autonomic nervous system.

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Everything gets thrown off

if our vagus nerve is off.

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If you don't have good , vagal

tone, that is going to impact

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how you're able to cognitively

function and go about your day.

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Big connections with anxiety and

depression with the vagus nerve and

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poor vagal tone, but that tongue being

able to sit against that back half of

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the roof of the mouth, the palette.

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It is going to stimulate that vagus nerve.

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It's going to help you be more able

to self-regulate that autonomic

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nervous system and to keep just

everything else running well because

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it is the powerhouse of the body.

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And so we want to be able to have that

proper breast posture because when we

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don't, you don't breathe as efficiently

and you don't function as efficiently.

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Kacee: Does this have a, this,

first of all, that explanation is

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phenomenal that just even from.

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Me connected so many pieces and I've

been, as I mentioned before to you,

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I've been talking about breath work

on this podcast for a long time.

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We talk about the vagus nerve,

but that puts so many different

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pieces together for me.

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And I'm wondering if this, this is

kind of a two part question, but

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wondering how this differs if it

does, from mewing, and then I'm also

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wondering if that is why mouth taping,

, sleep has become popular in recent.

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Years, I guess.

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So I'm kind of wondering if, if

those two things are related into

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the work that you're talking about.

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karese laguerre: Yes, to a degree.

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So I would say they're pieces of

the puzzle where Kneeing is like.

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Um, it's kind of like one dimensional

myofunctional therapy, so where it's a

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heavy, heavy focus on just the tongue,

whereas I deal with, like I said, like a

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hundred muscles that surround everything.

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So if there's other dysfunctions viewing

doesn't really address those at all.

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And so you might have other compensations

or other things that are in disharmony

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when you're not addressing them.

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Kacee: Okay.

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karese laguerre: are.

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Uh, mouth taping.

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Mouth taping is also like

a piece of the puzzle.

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Like I said, you wanna be predominantly

nasal breathing, and so if you're taping

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your mouth, you're forcing nasal breathing

and therefore you're going to be receiving

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all of those benefits of nasal breathing.

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Nobody thinks of sleep as being.

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So connected to breath, but it,

it's incredibly, it's all regulated.

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How you go through your sleep

cycles is entirely determined by

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the quality of your breathing.

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Once you get into hypoxia, like you're

not getting adequate oxygen, you'd no

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longer get those restorative functions.

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So why you're feeling like you're

getting more restorative sleep is

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because you're now oxygenating better.

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That's where your mouth

taping is coming in.

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And so yes, those are all like pieces

of the puzzle, but what I do really

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addresses like a greater area of

dysfunction than just what's going

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on with your lips or your tongue.

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Kacee: Okay.

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And then, so for listeners who were

with this, and we went through that

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experiment together with the nasal

breathing, and for those who, let's

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say, had their teeth together, or

they realized that their tongue was

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resting at the bottom of their mouth.

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are some first initial steps that one

would take just to correct basic posture?

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karese laguerre: Becoming more aware.

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Of that over a longer period of time.

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So incorporating conscious breathing, and

I think a lot of people, when they think

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of conscious breathing, they think of it

as something like, oh, I have to sit down.

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I have to meditate.

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I have to like turn my mind off.

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I can't do that, or I don't, I

don't have time for it, or whatever.

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It could be as simple as like this

little task that I like to do.

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I call it rhythmic breathing.

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You might have another name for it

because people in breath work always

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do, but I call it rhythmic breathing.

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You're going to turn on a song that's

somewhere between 60 to 85 beats.

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Per minute.

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A lot of Bruno Mars in that

area, he's just a popular artist.

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Uh, some Elvis in that area, you know,

some Michael Jackson in that area,

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just to name some popular artists.

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So it's not like you have

to listen to boring music.

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You can listen to really exciting,

fun music, but 60 to 85 beats

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per minute, no higher, no lower

because you wanna keep yourself.

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Relatively regulated.

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What you're gonna do is you're

just gonna listen to the song,

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listen to the music, and I want

your breath to dance along to it.

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So feel free to pause breathing, to

elongate your breath, to take deeper

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inhales, to take shorter breath,

like manipulate your breathing.

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You'll be consciously.

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Breathing for that three to

four minutes that the song

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might be on during that time.

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Be very, very aware what's going on.

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So this could be done in the car

while you're on your way to work.

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Uh, if you're on a jog and you're, you're

running, you can do this at any time.

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And really just be aware of what

the posture is most commonly.

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Some people might find that when they're

stressed, that's when they're checking.

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And everything might be like your jaw's

fairly tight or your posture's low.

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Things change that's functional breathing.

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It changes so that our body can adapt.

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But what is it most commonly?

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And then once you know what it is most

commonly and not just what it is on like

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a one-off type of basis, I want you to

take some of that rhythmic breathing

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time and try to see if you can relax

your jaw so that it's not together

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for the three minutes of the song.

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If you can keep your tongue up

for the three minutes of the song.

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If you find that you've spent a week

or two or four and it's a struggle for

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you, you might need additional help.

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And at that point then I would say

you want to call in, some sort of

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specialist, whether it's a myofunctional

therapist and or anybody else.

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Else.

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Kacee: That is so helpful.

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And then for parents, like I

know you mentioned, This all kind

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of started with your children.

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So for a parent who is trying to support

their child or even trying to figure

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out, if there are issues with oral

posture or breathing, or they're trying

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to evaluate oral habits or sleep or

anything along that line, what would

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you say a parent who's trying to begin

this journey or just support their

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child naturally and not with medication?

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I.

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karese laguerre: Yeah.

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What you wanna do is you wanna make sure

that one bedtime is as consistent as

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possible, create routines around bedtime,

and you wanna start getting into a

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little bit of nasal hygiene if you can.

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I know that that becomes very challenging.

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Not a lot of kids like these saline

sprays or anything sprayed up their

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nose, but you gotta keep it clean.

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And we're cleaning every other

part of our child except the one

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that's like the most important.

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We could go for, you know, days

without water, weeks without

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food, but nobody can go.

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But for a few minutes without

air, we need to breathe.

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So clean out your children's nose , make

that a part of your bedtime routine and

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make bedtime as consistent as possible.

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I know it's hard.

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I have four kids, you know, people have

sports and afterschool activities and

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extracurriculars and all sorts of things,

but you gotta get into some sort of set

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rhythm because our circadian rhythm, I.

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It is just that it goes off of

these routines that we create

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when we're early on in parenting.

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Everybody's telling you, oh, you

gotta get the baby on a schedule.

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Keep the baby on a schedule.

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Babies love schedule.

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Guess who else loves schedules?

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Well, one adults like,

hello, we need it two.

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But children, children thrive

off these schedules too.

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And so set a really good routine and

start monitoring your child's sleep.

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I know you know for me, once you get them.

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Either out of your bed if you

were co-sleeping or you get them

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just sleeping through the night.

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You just wanna go to your bed

or like do your own thing.

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Or it's mommy time now.

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Right.

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And you're not thinking about them.

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But really, I wish I was more

aware very early on of how

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they were sleeping and the.

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Signs that were all there,

that there was dysfunctional

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patterns through their sleep.

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Nothing scares you more

than witnessing an apnea.

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So we talk about obstructive

sleep apnea for adults a lot.

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You'll hear it when you're

talking about older men.

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You might, your, your dad

snored, your grandfather snored,

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your husband might snore.

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Like we talk about men a lot, but there

are children who snore and it's not cute.

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It's not.

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Starring is the sound of air, meaning

resistance, trying to get into

445

00:23:16,744 --> 00:23:18,964

your lungs, so we don't want that.

446

00:23:19,624 --> 00:23:24,994

But also, apnea are only officially

diagnosed as an apnea, like on

447

00:23:24,994 --> 00:23:29,974

a sleep study when it's stopping

of breath for 10 seconds or more.

448

00:23:30,454 --> 00:23:33,844

When you start to witness things like

that happening in your children's sleep.

449

00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:37,564

So you don't have to stand over them

and like creepily, watch them sleep.

450

00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:43,534

But if you put a phone there, um, if

you put a, an Apple watch or one of the

451

00:23:43,534 --> 00:23:48,004

Android watches, you put that on your

children because they can monitor sleep.

452

00:23:48,004 --> 00:23:53,464

And many of those devices have been

FDA approved to do home sleep testing.

453

00:23:53,794 --> 00:23:57,419

You put that on there and if you

notice how many times they stop

454

00:23:57,514 --> 00:24:02,524

breathing, sometimes I think that

will ring enough bells because.

455

00:24:02,779 --> 00:24:05,989

If we stood here and we just counted out

10 seconds, and you just imagine your

456

00:24:05,989 --> 00:24:11,149

child's not breathing for that entire

time, it is a long period of time.

457

00:24:11,569 --> 00:24:15,289

So I think it's really important

that as parents create a routine.

458

00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:16,429

Around sleep.

459

00:24:16,849 --> 00:24:18,559

Make sure you're doing nasal hygiene.

460

00:24:18,679 --> 00:24:22,129

Get them optimally engaged for sleep.

461

00:24:22,189 --> 00:24:26,209

I know a lot of people don't like to

mouth tape, um, children to go to sleep.

462

00:24:26,209 --> 00:24:28,699

You want them to be able to open

their mouth if they need to,

463

00:24:28,699 --> 00:24:30,469

whatever, so prime their nose.

464

00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,659

Make sure their nose

is ready for breathing.

465

00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:36,349

Then make sure that you're monitoring

it and that you're seeing the

466

00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:41,929

quality of their sleep and any red

flags alert, a medical professional.

467

00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:43,129

Right away.

468

00:24:43,459 --> 00:24:44,779

Don't ignore any of the signs.

469

00:24:44,779 --> 00:24:46,909

So the symptoms, it doesn't

get better on its own.

470

00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:48,409

It doesn't resolve on its own.

471

00:24:48,409 --> 00:24:51,649

You do have to actively

put in some type of work.

472

00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,530

Kacee: And I'm wondering too, for

the, like a parent listening or even

473

00:24:56,530 --> 00:25:03,490

somebody going to this themselves, like

the connection between dysfunction and

474

00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,930

focal challenges, being able to focus,

or maybe if they were diagnosed with

475

00:25:07,992 --> 00:25:14,860

a DD or a DHD, uh, like your son, like

what is something that they should know

476

00:25:14,860 --> 00:25:18,730

about that connection or be aware of

about the connection between breathing,

477

00:25:18,730 --> 00:25:20,170

dysfunction and focal challenges?

478

00:25:21,115 --> 00:25:24,225

karese laguerre: I think what some parents

don't understand, , especially with A

479

00:25:24,225 --> 00:25:30,285

DHD, so it happens with a DD two, but

with a DHD that age for the hyperactivity,

480

00:25:30,555 --> 00:25:32,355

you think, oh, my kid's not sleepy.

481

00:25:32,355 --> 00:25:34,005

They're bouncing off the walls.

482

00:25:34,665 --> 00:25:38,985

Hyperactivity happens a lot

very frequently in children

483

00:25:38,985 --> 00:25:40,185

that are sleep deprived.

484

00:25:40,545 --> 00:25:43,305

Whereas sleepy adults

will be more fatigued.

485

00:25:43,395 --> 00:25:46,455

You're anticipating your

child would be fatigued.

486

00:25:46,935 --> 00:25:50,415

They are hyperactive because

just physiologically, the

487

00:25:50,415 --> 00:25:52,095

body is just really wound up.

488

00:25:52,095 --> 00:25:54,855

It really wants to go to sleep.

489

00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:59,775

So it's kind of exciting itself to

hopefully induce some sleep earlier.

490

00:25:59,775 --> 00:26:02,385

And then you see them, they knock

out, they go to sleep right away.

491

00:26:02,415 --> 00:26:04,875

Going to sleep too fast

is always a red flag.

492

00:26:05,265 --> 00:26:06,195

Uh, they shouldn't be.

493

00:26:06,255 --> 00:26:12,315

So tired that they fall asleep so fast,

but that hyperactivity, real red flag.

494

00:26:12,315 --> 00:26:13,485

That's why they can't focus.

495

00:26:13,485 --> 00:26:16,665

That's why they have that inability

to really stay on one task.

496

00:26:16,965 --> 00:26:19,875

Their body is really just trying

to get to the next thing so

497

00:26:19,875 --> 00:26:22,455

that we can go to sleep faster.

498

00:26:22,905 --> 00:26:24,540

Uh, so that's gonna be a.

499

00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,820

Really difficult focal challenge.

500

00:26:27,030 --> 00:26:29,940

If you're finding that your child

is not getting adequate sleep at

501

00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:33,900

night, that's a hundred percent

impacting their cognitive abilities.

502

00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:37,560

So we know that when you are

going without sleep for elongated

503

00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,820

periods of time, your brain does

not get to do its own proper detox.

504

00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:45,870

Your brain has its own things that it

has to, you know, we have our endocrine

505

00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:49,930

system, we have our lymph nodes and

those are going to help remove things

506

00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:51,760

that we don't want from the body.

507

00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:54,250

We flush things out through

our kidneys and clean.

508

00:26:54,250 --> 00:26:56,950

We have our liver that

helps to detox things too.

509

00:26:57,220 --> 00:27:02,080

Our brain only does its cleansing

routine at night during sleep, and

510

00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,770

when it doesn't get to do that during

day, it can't function the same.

511

00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:09,790

So if your child is unable to

focus or really pay attention.

512

00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:13,960

Yeah, there's a lot that hasn't

happened at night that the brain

513

00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,150

needs to have happen so that it can

work in the same way in the morning.

514

00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,850

And so sleep is incredibly important.

515

00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:26,020

Make sure that, you know, you ask

your child important questions too.

516

00:27:26,270 --> 00:27:28,820

I think I should have brought this

up earlier, like, are they dreaming?

517

00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:33,050

Ask them if they remember ever dreaming,

uh, even if it's a nightmare, if they

518

00:27:33,050 --> 00:27:34,760

say, oh, I only remember nightmares.

519

00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:36,620

Okay, well, at least Dave is.

520

00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:41,420

Entered some stage of REM

because that's really important.

521

00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:45,350

That's when all of the important

restorative tasks happen at

522

00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:49,310

night, like the brain detoxing and

memories imparting and so forth.

523

00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:54,335

Kacee: I like that you mentioned that

because I think that's an important part.

524

00:27:54,335 --> 00:27:56,555

I mean, all of it is important,

but that's very important because

525

00:27:56,555 --> 00:28:00,905

I think so many of us, just as

adults, get tired and we think.

526

00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:03,035

it's normal that I feel tired.

527

00:28:03,485 --> 00:28:06,455

Um, but are those some signs

that we should look out for?

528

00:28:06,455 --> 00:28:11,105

That could be sleep issues or even

breathing issues as if, are we dreaming?

529

00:28:11,105 --> 00:28:12,575

Are we remembering our dreams?

530

00:28:12,575 --> 00:28:15,815

Like are those things that we

should be monitoring for ourselves?

531

00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:18,770

karese laguerre: Yeah, you

should note that you're dreaming.

532

00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:20,240

So it's really difficult.

533

00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,270

A lot of times you're gonna forget

your dreams, so you won't remember

534

00:28:23,270 --> 00:28:25,940

it 10 minutes after you've woken up.

535

00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,240

But you would remember, oh

yeah, I did dream last night.

536

00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,150

I can't remember what about,

but I did dream last night.

537

00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:34,070

So that's a big red flag.

538

00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:35,180

If you're not dreaming.

539

00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:39,320

All the tossing and turning, that's a big

sign of non-restorative sleep at the two.

540

00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,130

So if you go to bed and you know,

sheets are one way and you're wrapped

541

00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:46,010

one way and then you wake up and

everything's all over the place.

542

00:28:46,025 --> 00:28:51,305

Like red flag, you did not

get enough sleep at all.

543

00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:55,145

And so make sure that you are

looking out for those types of signs.

544

00:28:55,145 --> 00:28:57,275

Adults are gonna be, yes, very fatigued.

545

00:28:57,305 --> 00:29:00,905

Uh, teenagers will even be fatigued,

but children, when they're tired

546

00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,185

sometimes do not present as fatigued.

547

00:29:03,485 --> 00:29:04,115

They can,

548

00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,700

Kacee: Mm-hmm.

549

00:29:04,715 --> 00:29:07,235

karese laguerre: they don't always,

more often than not, they may

550

00:29:07,235 --> 00:29:08,855

present with more hyperactivity.

551

00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:10,410

Kacee: Yeah.

552

00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:16,620

And your book accomplished, um,

talks about sleep and burnout,

553

00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:20,970

and I love how you weave breathing

into that conversation, but can

554

00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:25,940

you explain how, , mouth breathing

or the sleep disorders that we're

555

00:29:25,940 --> 00:29:27,915

talking about can sneak up on us?

556

00:29:28,974 --> 00:29:29,724

karese laguerre: Oh my gosh.

557

00:29:30,204 --> 00:29:31,674

Everything stinks up on us.

558

00:29:31,674 --> 00:29:34,944

'cause I don't think we're ever

looking for all of the signs.

559

00:29:35,464 --> 00:29:37,654

I really don't think we're

ever looking for the signs.

560

00:29:37,654 --> 00:29:39,154

It's very hard to know.

561

00:29:39,154 --> 00:29:42,904

You think of sleep apnea, I think

people immediately think of like

562

00:29:42,904 --> 00:29:46,264

very loud, obnoxious, snoring.

563

00:29:46,354 --> 00:29:50,554

Like you think of your dads, your

grandpas, your your people who you've

564

00:29:50,554 --> 00:29:54,844

heard having this terrible sleep, but.

565

00:29:55,579 --> 00:29:59,569

It creeps up on you in that,

and it compounds as you age.

566

00:29:59,569 --> 00:30:02,629

So what might start as like maybe

some little cute snoring, or it

567

00:30:02,629 --> 00:30:05,599

might start out as like, okay,

they've got their mouth open at

568

00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:07,369

night and you don't really hear it.

569

00:30:07,369 --> 00:30:08,209

It might be like.

570

00:30:08,524 --> 00:30:10,054

A little audible breathing.

571

00:30:10,054 --> 00:30:11,974

There's a lot of parents

that describe that to me.

572

00:30:12,214 --> 00:30:15,184

It's not a snore, it's audible breathing.

573

00:30:15,394 --> 00:30:15,844

Okay.

574

00:30:15,844 --> 00:30:18,664

Well, breathing is supposed

to be inherently quiet.

575

00:30:18,664 --> 00:30:21,814

You shouldn't hear breath happen

at all if you're hearing breathing.

576

00:30:22,054 --> 00:30:24,904

That's the sound of the air

trying to make its way through.

577

00:30:24,904 --> 00:30:26,344

And we don't want that.

578

00:30:26,374 --> 00:30:29,764

No obstruction to the air, getting

to where it needs to be in our body.

579

00:30:30,214 --> 00:30:35,104

And so it's gonna sneak up on you

because as it's compounding over time.

580

00:30:35,464 --> 00:30:40,564

You're not really catching the symptoms

or the signs and that will add up.

581

00:30:40,864 --> 00:30:43,204

So I like to compare it to

kind of like a, and I do this

582

00:30:43,204 --> 00:30:44,704

in the book accomplished too.

583

00:30:44,704 --> 00:30:46,384

I compare it to like a washing machine.

584

00:30:46,984 --> 00:30:50,074

Everybody who has a washing machine,

whether it's front loading, you know,

585

00:30:50,074 --> 00:30:53,944

top loading or whatever, you put clothes

in your washing machine, you let it

586

00:30:53,944 --> 00:30:56,224

wash, everything's wet, and it kind of.

587

00:30:57,379 --> 00:31:02,209

It looks like a smaller volume

of things, so if you have a top

588

00:31:02,209 --> 00:31:06,349

load, it might be more off to the

side around the edges of the bin.

589

00:31:06,349 --> 00:31:10,339

If it's a front load, everything looks

kind of smashed down and it looks like you

590

00:31:10,339 --> 00:31:14,629

could just add some more clothes and just

kind of start that whole thing up again.

591

00:31:14,629 --> 00:31:16,549

Let's just wash some

more clothes with this.

592

00:31:16,939 --> 00:31:18,199

Sure, go ahead.

593

00:31:18,199 --> 00:31:21,559

You could put more in, and I'm sure that

that will kind of smash down and you might

594

00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:26,839

be able to get in a third load, but the

quality of these washes, the quality of

595

00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,209

the clothes, it's not getting any better.

596

00:31:29,209 --> 00:31:32,569

You're just, IM pounding, imparting

more and more and more, and

597

00:31:32,569 --> 00:31:33,829

that's what happens with sleep.

598

00:31:34,219 --> 00:31:39,199

When you're not catching the signs early

on, you're just adding more and more and

599

00:31:39,199 --> 00:31:43,189

more problems and it just really compounds

until one day you realize, oh, I can't put

600

00:31:43,189 --> 00:31:45,139

anything else into this washing machine.

601

00:31:45,694 --> 00:31:46,534

It, it's full.

602

00:31:46,624 --> 00:31:46,744

It.

603

00:31:47,704 --> 00:31:48,364

It's done.

604

00:31:48,664 --> 00:31:50,704

And that's where you start

to see signs and symptoms.

605

00:31:50,704 --> 00:31:54,694

You, you're hearing the kids grinding

very hard and you're wondering why

606

00:31:54,694 --> 00:31:58,294

their teeth are wearing down, or

they might be complaining of jaw

607

00:31:58,294 --> 00:32:02,194

pain, or they might be complaining of

neck or upper back pain or tension,

608

00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:04,024

or you take them to a chiropractor.

609

00:32:04,294 --> 00:32:06,554

There's a lot of, very forward thinking.

610

00:32:07,069 --> 00:32:10,759

Parents who are taking their children

very early on to chiropractors and

611

00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:14,329

they're getting pediatric adjustments and

they say, oh, well there's some tension

612

00:32:14,329 --> 00:32:16,789

along one side of the neck or so forth.

613

00:32:17,089 --> 00:32:21,409

Like a lot of this is really tied

into how they're sleeping, how they

614

00:32:21,409 --> 00:32:24,799

might be manipulating themselves

in order to get adequate breathing.

615

00:32:25,069 --> 00:32:28,819

How they have to, you know, move

or manipulate themself in sleep.

616

00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,089

Whether they're crunched up or

they're expanding their body

617

00:32:32,089 --> 00:32:33,529

or tilting more to one side.

618

00:32:33,529 --> 00:32:35,209

That way they can open up their airway.

619

00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:35,929

So.

620

00:32:36,944 --> 00:32:41,204

It compounds because you really don't

notice the very, very subtle first signs.

621

00:32:41,204 --> 00:32:47,624

It's only when it becomes really loud

and glaringly obvious that we start

622

00:32:47,624 --> 00:32:49,634

to say, oh, there's a problem here.

623

00:32:49,984 --> 00:32:50,404

Kacee: Yeah.

624

00:32:51,124 --> 00:32:55,174

I know we've been talking a lot

about, sleep, but in just hearing

625

00:32:55,204 --> 00:32:59,374

what you said now in terms of some

of these things can seem subtle, and

626

00:32:59,374 --> 00:33:03,574

so I wanna go back to what you said

earlier about your daughter with the,

627

00:33:03,574 --> 00:33:08,254

allergies and like the congestion

and like kind of the nasal things.

628

00:33:08,254 --> 00:33:09,194

Like I don't know if it's.

629

00:33:09,448 --> 00:33:14,745

Just the oral posture or, but how was

affected in terms of what you found out

630

00:33:14,745 --> 00:33:18,555

with your daughter and her allergies,

or what you thought with allergies?

631

00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:22,440

karese laguerre: So when you are not

breathing adequately, like if you're mouth

632

00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,000

breathing particularly, you're not getting

the filtration, the air is not being.

633

00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:30,960

Humidified or warmed, and it's

not really prepped for the body.

634

00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,350

So when you're not getting that

filtration or the warmth, you're

635

00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:38,700

exposing your body to more of the

things that will cause inflammation.

636

00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,570

Our tonsils wind up being like

a first line responder 'cause

637

00:33:42,570 --> 00:33:43,440

that's part of the lymph.

638

00:33:43,455 --> 00:33:49,005

System, and so those tonsils will start

to become inflamed and catching things

639

00:33:49,005 --> 00:33:51,135

and trying to be some form of a barrier.

640

00:33:51,465 --> 00:33:55,515

It's not the same as when you respirate

through your nose, you're supposed

641

00:33:55,515 --> 00:33:59,505

to take in that air through your nose

that's going to filter and so forth.

642

00:33:59,925 --> 00:34:04,515

Once you have that inflammation, your

body is now going to be more reactive.

643

00:34:04,845 --> 00:34:10,304

So what may start out as

pollen and you might not be as

644

00:34:10,304 --> 00:34:12,105

affected, may suddenly hit you.

645

00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:15,989

Really, really hard and have

what a lot of people like to

646

00:34:15,989 --> 00:34:17,940

call like year round allergies.

647

00:34:17,969 --> 00:34:21,900

'cause you're more sensitive to

the histamines, you're inflamed.

648

00:34:22,110 --> 00:34:26,040

Your body is unable to really

process everything because it's

649

00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,659

just catching things all the time.

650

00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:31,620

You're breathing and all the air

you're taking in through your mouth is

651

00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:33,540

needing to be filtered and processed.

652

00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:36,870

And now we've got histamines and now

we've got other things coming at us.

653

00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,239

Whatever bacteria and

you know, kids there are.

654

00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:41,489

Kids are yucky to begin with.

655

00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:47,070

And so all of that sharing of germs, like

all of that extra that comes with that,

656

00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:48,719

they have a hard time processing it.

657

00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,139

And so it just, it increases

that inflammatory process.

658

00:34:52,139 --> 00:34:54,480

It increases the, his histamine response.

659

00:34:54,780 --> 00:35:01,200

And so the body is more likely to be

reactive when there are allergens nearby.

660

00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:04,990

So we find that actually a lot of

times that when we, , switch over,

661

00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:08,260

we get them nasal breathing and

we start including nasal hygiene.

662

00:35:08,695 --> 00:35:13,315

Really, really important because some

nasal hygiene, particularly those

663

00:35:13,315 --> 00:35:18,102

salines that have, , xylitol in them,

those sprays are gonna sit there.

664

00:35:18,102 --> 00:35:20,772

It's gonna have like a

nice antimicrobial factor.

665

00:35:20,772 --> 00:35:24,222

It's going to help you kind of

fight off that and keep down some

666

00:35:24,222 --> 00:35:27,012

of that sinus inflammation that

would occur when you know you're

667

00:35:27,012 --> 00:35:28,392

breathing in a lot of allergens.

668

00:35:28,692 --> 00:35:32,202

So we're finding that when we

switch over and we establish nasal

669

00:35:32,202 --> 00:35:37,602

breathing and nasal hygiene, that

what was allergies and was really.

670

00:35:37,962 --> 00:35:43,632

Ruining your springs, ruining your falls

is actually just improper breathing.

671

00:35:43,632 --> 00:35:45,582

They were just more prone to it.

672

00:35:45,882 --> 00:35:49,782

So not to say that it goes away fully,

but you know, you don't have those big

673

00:35:50,052 --> 00:35:53,202

attacks of allergies as you once had.

674

00:35:54,142 --> 00:35:55,522

Kacee: Very interesting.

675

00:35:55,642 --> 00:35:56,572

Okay.

676

00:35:56,632 --> 00:35:58,612

Yeah, I, I love this too, because.

677

00:35:59,042 --> 00:36:02,512

I think even as adults, and I know

my father, was like struggling.

678

00:36:02,512 --> 00:36:05,302

He's like, all of a

sudden I have allergies.

679

00:36:05,302 --> 00:36:08,302

And he had these year-round allergies

and he didn't have allergies before,

680

00:36:09,082 --> 00:36:13,222

his sleep had also gotten worse and he

was starting to snore and was like going

681

00:36:13,312 --> 00:36:16,064

through, like a sleep study to kind of

figure out what was going on with his

682

00:36:16,124 --> 00:36:17,624

snoring and stuff when he was breathing.

683

00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,182

So that's kind of interesting And then

when you talk about nasal hygiene, I

684

00:36:21,182 --> 00:36:25,982

know you're, um, you've mentioned the

saline, but would that include like

685

00:36:25,982 --> 00:36:28,352

neti pot and those types of things?

686

00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:30,252

Like in terms of, irrigation?

687

00:36:31,397 --> 00:36:32,597

karese laguerre: Yes, ma'am.

688

00:36:32,627 --> 00:36:37,178

So when you're irrigating, even with

a Neti pot or any other thing, , you

689

00:36:37,178 --> 00:36:41,558

would absolutely use saline as you

never use, just like regular tap

690

00:36:41,558 --> 00:36:42,998

water, it would always be a saline.

691

00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:48,728

That way you're not introducing, you know,

any, anything detrimental into your body.

692

00:36:48,968 --> 00:36:51,818

So, yeah, saline and you

would be actually rinsing out.

693

00:36:52,178 --> 00:36:53,048

Not everybody's.

694

00:36:53,358 --> 00:36:54,768

You know, a fan of that.

695

00:36:54,768 --> 00:36:59,628

I think it's a really great way to cleanse

out, but not everybody's a fan of that.

696

00:36:59,628 --> 00:37:02,148

It goes up one nostril,

it comes out the other.

697

00:37:02,148 --> 00:37:05,298

It really cleans and flushes

out those nostrils really well.

698

00:37:05,568 --> 00:37:09,288

But you could also just use

a spray and spray up there as

699

00:37:09,288 --> 00:37:10,698

well, and then that's gonna help.

700

00:37:11,298 --> 00:37:14,298

Really important for the sprays

actually, 'cause nobody ever talks

701

00:37:14,298 --> 00:37:17,088

about this, but you wanna look at

your toes when you spray your nose,

702

00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,618

so you're gonna tilt your chin down.

703

00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:20,898

That way when you spray,

you get the right angle.

704

00:37:21,168 --> 00:37:24,678

Otherwise, if you're spraying while

your head is straight, it's going

705

00:37:24,768 --> 00:37:28,458

somewhere trapped along your nostrils

like it's not going anywhere.

706

00:37:28,518 --> 00:37:31,878

So you gotta look at your toes

when you're gonna spray your nose.

707

00:37:31,878 --> 00:37:32,778

Very important.

708

00:37:34,023 --> 00:37:34,953

Kacee: And I like that it rhymed.

709

00:37:34,953 --> 00:37:35,793

It's easy to remember.

710

00:37:36,263 --> 00:37:36,753

karese laguerre: Exactly.

711

00:37:37,443 --> 00:37:39,363

Kacee: Look at your toes

when you spray your nose.

712

00:37:39,663 --> 00:37:42,393

Um, that's actually a good note

because I know a lot of people

713

00:37:42,393 --> 00:37:43,773

when they do it, they tend to like

714

00:37:44,373 --> 00:37:45,213

karese laguerre: Tilt backwards.

715

00:37:45,603 --> 00:37:45,933

Yeah.

716

00:37:45,963 --> 00:37:46,173

Kacee: to

717

00:37:46,353 --> 00:37:48,063

karese laguerre: It's not

going in the right spot.

718

00:37:48,543 --> 00:37:49,803

Kacee: and, okay.

719

00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:50,703

So that's.

720

00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:52,788

Very, very good to know.

721

00:37:53,283 --> 00:37:53,643

karese laguerre: Yeah.

722

00:37:53,718 --> 00:37:54,228

Kacee: to know.

723

00:37:54,829 --> 00:37:59,629

one of the things that I wanna talk to

you about was sort of the, empowerment.

724

00:37:59,629 --> 00:38:03,259

And I say that because I think that

you are a great example of a person

725

00:38:03,259 --> 00:38:07,369

who turns the challenges , that they've

experienced with their personal or with

726

00:38:07,369 --> 00:38:09,559

your kids into like this global mission.

727

00:38:10,219 --> 00:38:11,321

And so.

728

00:38:11,371 --> 00:38:15,811

I'm curious to know for someone who's

listening today who feels like they're

729

00:38:15,811 --> 00:38:19,621

stuck or they're tired or they're

overwhelmed or maybe they're struggling

730

00:38:19,621 --> 00:38:25,978

in some way, piece of advice can you

give that would encourage them, or

731

00:38:25,978 --> 00:38:27,348

something that you would leave them with?

732

00:38:27,963 --> 00:38:30,393

karese laguerre: Yeah, there's always

somebody willing to listen to you.

733

00:38:30,393 --> 00:38:31,743

I think that's the biggest thing.

734

00:38:31,743 --> 00:38:34,533

So always advocate for yourself.

735

00:38:34,923 --> 00:38:39,903

I wish I had advocated more for

my children because during that

736

00:38:40,053 --> 00:38:43,593

10 years of my daughter wedding,

the bed every night, you know?

737

00:38:44,523 --> 00:38:47,613

Of course I talk to the pediatrician

about that every single time,

738

00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:48,633

and she's like, don't worry.

739

00:38:48,633 --> 00:38:49,473

She'll outgrow it.

740

00:38:49,473 --> 00:38:50,163

She'll outgrow it.

741

00:38:50,163 --> 00:38:52,563

She'll outgrow it, but

like you're missing.

742

00:38:53,073 --> 00:38:59,523

So many things that during these vital

years where she's growing, we shouldn't be

743

00:38:59,523 --> 00:39:04,833

ignoring these things and just waiting for

her sleep to magically one day get better.

744

00:39:05,193 --> 00:39:05,633

So

745

00:39:05,933 --> 00:39:06,173

Kacee: Hmm.

746

00:39:06,273 --> 00:39:09,423

karese laguerre: never felt

right with the answers I got.

747

00:39:09,423 --> 00:39:12,453

I never felt right that

like, why are we on our third

748

00:39:12,453 --> 00:39:14,733

medication for this a DHD thing?

749

00:39:14,733 --> 00:39:15,843

And none of them are working.

750

00:39:15,843 --> 00:39:17,643

Like, it just doesn't feel right.

751

00:39:17,763 --> 00:39:19,443

And if it doesn't feel right.

752

00:39:19,983 --> 00:39:23,823

It doesn't mean that you know you're

doing something wrong or that your

753

00:39:23,973 --> 00:39:25,293

kids are getting terrible treatment.

754

00:39:25,293 --> 00:39:28,233

It means that you just haven't

found the provider yet that

755

00:39:28,233 --> 00:39:29,733

is willing to listen to you.

756

00:39:29,853 --> 00:39:35,493

And there are people, many, many

people who will listen to you.

757

00:39:35,763 --> 00:39:39,363

So it doesn't have to be, I, I think

I grew up with that mindset that

758

00:39:39,363 --> 00:39:45,813

like doctor knows best just deffer to

the doctor, but you can collaborate.

759

00:39:46,188 --> 00:39:49,248

In healthcare, you can

be a part of the team.

760

00:39:49,248 --> 00:39:54,498

And really, I don't wanna overstate

how you collaborate, but there will be

761

00:39:54,498 --> 00:39:58,938

people who will listen to you and will

be willing to look down other avenues

762

00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:03,798

and provide you with alternative ways

that you can reach the same end goal.

763

00:40:04,248 --> 00:40:06,498

So keep advocating for yourself.

764

00:40:06,528 --> 00:40:10,128

There's always somebody who

will listen and it's not you.

765

00:40:10,128 --> 00:40:11,148

You're not the problem.

766

00:40:11,769 --> 00:40:12,879

Kacee: That is so important.

767

00:40:12,939 --> 00:40:18,140

And I think especially for women, I

think we have a hard time with going.

768

00:40:18,155 --> 00:40:21,095

To look after ourselves, number

one, and then going to the doctors

769

00:40:21,095 --> 00:40:24,665

and then whatever we usually hear

back, we just take at face value.

770

00:40:24,665 --> 00:40:27,545

But I think it is important

to advocate, for yourself.

771

00:40:27,545 --> 00:40:28,775

So I love that.

772

00:40:29,405 --> 00:40:33,440

And then I just also wanna bring it in

circle because I know we talked about

773

00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,730

myofunctional therapy and like you said,

it encompasses so many different things.

774

00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:41,480

But can you explain how it

also compliments other holistic

775

00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,350

therapies, like you mentioned,

chiropractic care , nutrition

776

00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:47,985

, psychotherapy, like

how does it compliment?

777

00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,220

karese laguerre: Yeah, so breathing

is very well attached to a lot of

778

00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:56,360

our ability to regulate our autonomic

nervous system, as I've kind of

779

00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,590

stated a little bit, and that's.

780

00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,980

Really how it goes hand in

hand with mental health.

781

00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:02,570

Really, really big factor.

782

00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,590

We all know that once you go to a

psychiatrist or a psychologist and

783

00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:10,640

it, it's anything to do with anxiety,

the first thing they start to show

784

00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,350

you are some breathing exercises.

785

00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:15,980

So we've always known that there was

that connection there, but being able

786

00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:21,500

to adequately breathe and like really

improper posture really does help as

787

00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:24,680

a natural aid to other methods and.

788

00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:25,900

Other things.

789

00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,320

We never wanna discount traditional

medicine fully, but it can be

790

00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,360

complimented in a lot of different ways.

791

00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:35,710

Uh, myofunctional therapy is really,

really great for those who are

792

00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:37,720

struggling with a lot of GI issues.

793

00:41:38,110 --> 00:41:40,750

If you're breathing through

your mouth and you have to eat

794

00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:42,820

with your mouth digestion first.

795

00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:48,230

And foremost starts in the mouth,

and you can alter the pH and the

796

00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:54,620

content of your salivary flora by just

mouth breathing, by not adequately

797

00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:56,750

breathing properly and proper posture.

798

00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:59,060

That's gonna have a negative impact.

799

00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:03,320

As you're breathing through your mouth and

you're trying to eat and take breaths, you

800

00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,630

wind up in some ways, swallowing more air.

801

00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:12,170

It makes you more prone to inflammation

and leaky gut and those types of things.

802

00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:16,340

And so it's very complimentary

of myofunctional therapy too.

803

00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:19,100

A lot of the GI issues.

804

00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:22,400

And we work well with

gastrointestinal doctors , sleep

805

00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,780

physicians for obvious reasons.

806

00:42:23,780 --> 00:42:25,250

We've talked a lot about sleep.

807

00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,880

It works.

808

00:42:26,135 --> 00:42:29,705

Really, really great with

dentistry because we find a lot

809

00:42:29,705 --> 00:42:30,935

of people who are struggling.

810

00:42:31,285 --> 00:42:33,565

You think all you gotta do

is brush and floss, right?

811

00:42:33,565 --> 00:42:36,735

If you just brush and floss and you do

what the doctor says, that everything

812

00:42:36,735 --> 00:42:40,875

should be fine in your mouth, well, how

you breathe and the quality of what's

813

00:42:40,875 --> 00:42:44,595

going on with your salivary flora,

that's going to have an impact too.

814

00:42:44,595 --> 00:42:48,615

So when that's altered, you find

yourself more prone to gum disease,

815

00:42:48,855 --> 00:42:52,425

inflammation, the ability to have.

816

00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:55,540

Cavities or disease and

so forth in the teeth.

817

00:42:55,770 --> 00:43:00,000

And so we want to also make sure

that we have proper posture so

818

00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,530

that we can keep our teeth and our

oral health as optimal as possible.

819

00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,710

Uh, it compliments a lot of things

with children with growth and

820

00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:11,970

development because when that tongue

is up in proper posture, it's doing.

821

00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,720

Yes, stimulating the nasal floor

and stimulating the baby's nerve,

822

00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:20,220

but it's also applying a nice light,

soft, consistent pressure that helps

823

00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:22,620

to expand our maxilla naturally.

824

00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,210

We're seeing a lot of kids, it's almost

like a rite of passage these days to get

825

00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:30,420

braces and braces are not normal, okay?

826

00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,180

That is not something you should

anticipate for your child.

827

00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:36,810

It should be something where like,

oh, is this something I'm gonna need?

828

00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:38,490

There's something wrong here.

829

00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:41,820

And if there's proper tongue posture.

830

00:43:42,345 --> 00:43:44,685

They develop naturally,

they develop normally.

831

00:43:45,315 --> 00:43:49,785

Um, so it's compliments a lot of different

things and a lot of different ways for

832

00:43:49,785 --> 00:43:53,955

health and just overall wellness because

as far as I'm concerned, and there are

833

00:43:53,955 --> 00:43:57,735

people who feel like it's one way or

the other, but I think it could be both.

834

00:43:57,975 --> 00:44:01,755

I think health starts from the

top down and so everything here

835

00:44:01,755 --> 00:44:06,105

in my wonderful area is going to

impact things further down too.

836

00:44:06,135 --> 00:44:08,475

So it works well with a

lot of different things.

837

00:44:08,475 --> 00:44:08,805

Thanks.

838

00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,460

Kacee: My mind's blown honestly,

like just how much it can

839

00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:14,420

affect so many different things.

840

00:44:14,420 --> 00:44:15,320

I didn't even know.

841

00:44:15,610 --> 00:44:20,980

But what are some common myths about

whether it's breathing or whether it's

842

00:44:22,090 --> 00:44:25,540

or maybe it's just myofunctional therapy

in general, but what are some common

843

00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:27,285

myths that you wish more people knew?

844

00:44:29,065 --> 00:44:29,305

karese laguerre: Ooh.

845

00:44:29,575 --> 00:44:32,875

I really wish more people

were aware that one.

846

00:44:33,115 --> 00:44:33,805

The tongue.

847

00:44:34,075 --> 00:44:39,025

It has its own proper posture and that

that's incredibly important to address.

848

00:44:39,115 --> 00:44:42,805

Two, everybody thinks

that snoring is normal.

849

00:44:42,805 --> 00:44:43,885

Snoring is not normal.

850

00:44:43,885 --> 00:44:44,725

It's common.

851

00:44:45,205 --> 00:44:47,815

Common and normal are not the same.

852

00:44:48,145 --> 00:44:48,505

Okay?

853

00:44:48,505 --> 00:44:53,455

So it might be common, and it could very

well be common through your family, but.

854

00:44:53,665 --> 00:44:55,135

That does not make it normal.

855

00:44:55,135 --> 00:44:57,235

It's not something that

you should anticipate.

856

00:44:57,775 --> 00:45:02,185

Uh, genetics only play

a, a portion of the role.

857

00:45:02,185 --> 00:45:04,165

I think that's a very

common misconception.

858

00:45:04,165 --> 00:45:07,645

Everybody assumes genetics is

a hundred percent the thing.

859

00:45:08,065 --> 00:45:12,265

The study of epigenetics has proven

to us time and time again that it's

860

00:45:12,265 --> 00:45:14,395

multifactorial, it's nature and nurture.

861

00:45:14,395 --> 00:45:19,585

So genetics, uh, it plays a role,

but then a lot of the external

862

00:45:19,585 --> 00:45:22,465

factors that come on after birth and.

863

00:45:22,825 --> 00:45:26,635

As you are being, you know, fed

and, and neutral and whatever.

864

00:45:26,995 --> 00:45:28,795

A lot of that plays a common factor.

865

00:45:28,795 --> 00:45:32,005

So that's a big one too, is

that it's just not all genetics.

866

00:45:32,005 --> 00:45:37,035

So just because you had a particular

, type of sleep pattern, or maybe you

867

00:45:37,035 --> 00:45:40,965

had a DHD or what you think was a

DHD while you were growing up, that

868

00:45:40,965 --> 00:45:43,215

does not destin your child to it.

869

00:45:43,455 --> 00:45:48,525

These are things that we can veer

away from with better habits,

870

00:45:48,525 --> 00:45:50,085

better diet, better function.

871

00:45:50,786 --> 00:45:51,266

Kacee: Great.

872

00:45:52,796 --> 00:45:56,816

if the listeners want to know

more, if they want to dive deeper

873

00:45:56,816 --> 00:46:01,826

into healing or breathing or

sleep, where should they start?

874

00:46:02,696 --> 00:46:03,956

karese laguerre: So I have a website.

875

00:46:03,956 --> 00:46:05,666

I think it's a great place to start.

876

00:46:05,666 --> 00:46:08,456

If you at any point in time wanna just.

877

00:46:08,761 --> 00:46:10,921

Talk and kind of geek

out about this stuff.

878

00:46:10,921 --> 00:46:15,181

I do complimentary consultations, and

so you can find that on my website.

879

00:46:15,181 --> 00:46:17,551

It's the mayo spot.com.

880

00:46:17,551 --> 00:46:20,131

I'm sure it'll be in the

show notes or something, but

881

00:46:20,131 --> 00:46:21,361

that's a great place to start.

882

00:46:21,361 --> 00:46:23,371

It'll also link off to my blog.

883

00:46:23,611 --> 00:46:26,311

My blog is Airway matters.blog,

884

00:46:26,311 --> 00:46:30,781

and there you'll find a lot of

great resources, references, and.

885

00:46:31,553 --> 00:46:34,973

Information that's really gonna help

you guide yourself through this journey.

886

00:46:35,003 --> 00:46:36,143

'cause it's not easy.

887

00:46:36,143 --> 00:46:37,433

It wasn't easy for me.

888

00:46:37,763 --> 00:46:40,613

And so I try to make it as

streamlined and it's easy for others.

889

00:46:41,063 --> 00:46:45,083

Uh, but I'm happy to talk to anybody at

any time about myofunctional therapy.

890

00:46:45,083 --> 00:46:49,253

It's not everybody's first

step, and so that's a big thing.

891

00:46:49,253 --> 00:46:52,253

I should have said that with some of

the myths too, is a lot of people think

892

00:46:52,253 --> 00:46:54,923

that, oh, my very first step is to figure

out what's going on with my tongue.

893

00:46:55,613 --> 00:46:56,393

Not always.

894

00:46:56,483 --> 00:46:59,753

A lot of times there's other things

that need to be into play and so.

895

00:47:00,988 --> 00:47:03,538

Kacee: And of course we will link

everything you mentioned, as well as

896

00:47:03,538 --> 00:47:05,338

your book accomplished, the myo spot and

897

00:47:05,398 --> 00:47:05,618

karese laguerre: Yes.

898

00:47:05,638 --> 00:47:07,018

Kacee: amazing resources

in the show notes.

899

00:47:07,018 --> 00:47:07,438

Of course.

900

00:47:08,143 --> 00:47:08,438

karese laguerre: Thank you.

901

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Kacee: And I just wanna know like.

902

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I mean, obviously we started

off talking about your family.

903

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I kind of wanna end it that way too,

because look all the things that you

904

00:47:18,117 --> 00:47:20,907

have to worry about already with being

a mom, and then you're worried about

905

00:47:20,907 --> 00:47:25,047

your children and sleeping through the

night and in accidents and 10 years of

906

00:47:25,047 --> 00:47:26,727

straight accidents, like things like that.

907

00:47:27,057 --> 00:47:32,787

So I just wanted like, how has this truly

changed your life and your family's life?

908

00:47:33,027 --> 00:47:33,357

How would

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karese laguerre: changed everything.

910

00:47:35,742 --> 00:47:37,452

Absolutely everything.

911

00:47:37,452 --> 00:47:40,847

My son, uh, we started out with

fifth grade and like really?

912

00:47:41,532 --> 00:47:45,402

Started on our journey into

the A DHD around that time.

913

00:47:45,472 --> 00:47:46,812

And it wasn't looking good for him.

914

00:47:46,812 --> 00:47:50,172

Like it, he was not doing

well in excelling at school.

915

00:47:50,562 --> 00:47:54,222

But once we kind of made it through

our journey, there was this.

916

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Little brilliant boy that I feel bad was

so hindered for so many years because I

917

00:47:58,887 --> 00:48:00,597

played that game of like, oh, he's six.

918

00:48:00,597 --> 00:48:02,067

Oh, he's seven, you know, whatever.

919

00:48:02,427 --> 00:48:05,727

Because by the time he was

17, he graduated high school a

920

00:48:05,727 --> 00:48:07,797

year early ahead of his peers.

921

00:48:07,917 --> 00:48:12,867

He was able to graduate early and and

just move forward in life, and he's.

922

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Just absolutely brilliant once he was able

to sleep and get the rest that he needed.

923

00:48:18,102 --> 00:48:22,182

Um, my daughter, with all the sleep

issues, we hadn't had any bedwetting

924

00:48:22,182 --> 00:48:28,122

and she's 19 now, so solid nine years,

and hopefully she keeps going more, but.

925

00:48:29,187 --> 00:48:31,737

But it's starting to not be my problem.

926

00:48:31,737 --> 00:48:33,477

So, yeah.

927

00:48:33,747 --> 00:48:38,547

But she's been getting really, really

good sleep, which is able to a, allow

928

00:48:38,547 --> 00:48:40,287

her to really thrive during the day.

929

00:48:40,287 --> 00:48:43,947

So she's been able to flourish and just

be more of herself and be more present.

930

00:48:43,947 --> 00:48:46,827

She doesn't struggle with like

fatigue or, or issues getting

931

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out of bed in the morning.

932

00:48:47,817 --> 00:48:49,587

So I'm, I'm so blessed.

933

00:48:49,857 --> 00:48:54,279

Um, and then my youngest two, we have

not been on antibiotics in my home I

934

00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:57,429

mean, not one antibiotic for any purpose.

935

00:48:57,609 --> 00:49:00,099

No ear infection, no throat infection.

936

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These things that, you know, I was

told are so common and like destined

937

00:49:03,489 --> 00:49:07,389

to happen stopped happening years ago.

938

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So I feel really, really blessed that

we were able to, come on the other side

939

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and really see them for who they are.

940

00:49:16,859 --> 00:49:17,669

Kacee: That's amazing.

941

00:49:17,969 --> 00:49:22,829

And then is there anything that

you would like to leave with our

942

00:49:22,829 --> 00:49:28,199

listeners just as, any last words of

wisdom, insights, or anything that

943

00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,659

you want to share as a parting note?

944

00:49:31,509 --> 00:49:33,549

karese laguerre: Yeah, just

get started cleaning your nose.

945

00:49:33,609 --> 00:49:35,379

Get started, like that's the.

946

00:49:35,799 --> 00:49:37,149

Biggest thing get started.

947

00:49:37,149 --> 00:49:38,049

No matter what it is.

948

00:49:38,049 --> 00:49:40,839

Whether it's monitoring how

you're breathing, watching your

949

00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:45,219

kids sleep, getting into some

nasal hygiene, like get started.

950

00:49:45,219 --> 00:49:49,239

Don't just listen and like go

put a pin in it for another time.

951

00:49:49,629 --> 00:49:50,409

Just get started.

952

00:49:50,409 --> 00:49:51,219

Get started now.

953

00:49:51,849 --> 00:49:52,540

You won't regret it.

954

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Kacee: I love it.

955

00:49:54,144 --> 00:49:55,374

Chris, thank you so much.

956

00:49:55,374 --> 00:49:57,234

Thank you so, so much

for being here today.

957

00:49:57,514 --> 00:49:58,689

karese laguerre: Thank you.

958

00:49:58,689 --> 00:49:59,469

It was my pleasure.

959

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I thank you for joining me today.

960

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If you enjoyed this podcast, please

feel free to rate it or leave a review.

961

00:50:06,796 --> 00:50:09,946

If you have any thoughts or questions,

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962

00:50:10,121 --> 00:50:13,481

You can email podcast core happiness.com.

963

00:50:13,524 --> 00:50:15,701

For show notes and additional resources.

964

00:50:15,734 --> 00:50:19,724

You can visit www.corehappiness.com.

965

00:50:20,963 --> 00:50:25,733

as always, please remember, never

let anyone diminish your light.

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Until next time, sending you my love.