"Brian would have a chat with us at half-time, not about the game, but we'd put the world to rights."

Barrie Saunders would often referee matches involving Brian Clough's A-Team at Nottingham Forest, including first team players returning from injury.

In this episode, Barrie recalls the impact Cloughie would have from his sheer presence on the touchline.

"I was in awe of this incredible character, but it never affected by judgment as a referee," Barrie tells pod host Marcus Alton.