Are all high schools haunted? Well, Truman High is. And so is El Paso High School. That is at least what everyone says and sees. Also - what happened in 1930? Why did so many students die? Find out in this week's episode when we talk about Supernatural Season 4, Episode 12, "After School Special," and maybe go too far talking about Jensen Ackles in tight red shorts.

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On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we solve the mystery of the women's bathroom.

It's goblins.

And a new beauty tip.

Tri ectoplasm peel away mask helps get ghostly glow.

Also, what the hell happened in El Paso?

And apparently, we all need a reminder.

Don't be a dick.

Let's do this.

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.

I'm Diana.

I'm Liz.

Hey.

Hey.

And this week, we're gonna talk about season four, episode 13, after school special.

All right, this is what we're gonna do.

Yeah.

What are you doing?

What's going on over there?

And the big.

The big D.

Well, I guess I have two updates since we've spoken to our audience last is that high contrast of things I've done over the last few days is I went and saw Mean Girls, the Broadway musical, which was super fucking adorable.

And I'm really glad I went and saw it and I enjoyed it and.

I feel like fitting for this week's episode.

You know, high school.

High school, I think.

Yeah.

I'm getting some synchronicity here.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's really good.

Cool.

So was it fetch?

It was so fetch.

So fetch.

I haven't got a hat that said fetch, so.

And you looked.

You look amazing in it.

It's so good.

Yeah, that was really good.

Everyone loves a trucker hat.

It's a trucker hat, guys.

It's pretty good.

It's a good flat Bill and beyond.

What did you do last night?

Well, hold on, I'm not there.

Then I went to Scarborough Fair and I got a picture with a unicorn, and we took my niece and the whole fam.

So, yeah, I was in a good outing.

Did you see jousting?

I actually did not.

We saw mermaids.

We saw unicorns.

We saw horses and other animals.

They had a human hamster wheel, snow cone stand.

So if you wanted a snow cone, you ran in the hamster wheel to make your own snow cone.

Which my niece did, which was great because she's fucking eight.

And then my dad decided he wanted to do to prove to all of us that he could, and he did.

We are all very grateful that I didn't have to use the.

Like, we could use the footage for celebratory reasons that he did it as opposed to showing to the hospital as.

To what happened or the insurance company.

Like, no, like, this was an accident.

I don't.

Her father, he's really good right now, but he's.

He's had Some health problems he's recovered.

From not too far in the past.

And maybe Bob don't get on the hamster wheel.

That's just what I'm saying.

Okay.

And then I hope Bob listens to this one day.

I love you.

Yeah, he is great.

He has amazing stories.

I'm very glad that you did not have.

He did not die in a hamster wheel.

But that would have been a fucking awesome epitaph or something, right?

Yeah, he went out like, Cayman something.

Not a hamster wheel.

Right.

No, it was.

It was pretty funny.

And then we popped around, did some shopping and watched the Birds of Prey.

Show where we got to see owls and other cool, like, birds.

Most of the owls, at least that.

Owl show actually had owls.

Had two owls.

Oh, three owls.

Yeah, I know.

So that was good.

And then what Liz was referring to last night at in Dallas was a special show.

It was the Boule Brothers Dragula season four tour.

And so I did not get to go to all of it, but I did get to attend for a little while.

And it was every bit as over the top as one could hope.

Yeah.

I am disappointed that you did not bring me back some.

What I assumed.

I figured that the Boule Brothers, like, they would give you blood instead of a handshake.

I just think that's what they would do.

And I really wanted her to bring me some blood home from them.

I'm sorry.

I know.

I did get you something, though.

Okay.

So very good.

I did get you something.

It is not blood.

I'm just going to go ahead and ruin that now.

It's not a biohack.

There's not a biohazard.

But I. I couldn't.

I couldn't not get you something from the Boule Brothers Dragon show.

Is it the Boule Brothers?

It is not.

Are they tied up in Duchess right now?

I mean, they would look really good in Duchess.

Like, she sent this video of them, like, with like, these giant.

Well, the headpieces would not fit in there, but their head pieces were fucking spectacular.

Yeah, it was.

I was like, listen, I would look so great in that outfit.

That's what I literally thought to myself.

I was sending her videos.

I was like, there we go.

Doing, like, matching.

Just, like crazy over the top stuff.

That would be fun.

Yeah.

Someday.

Someday.

How about you?

What have you been up to?

Getting worked over by the zoo.

God damn, Austin Zoo.

I do love you.

I am.

I will continue to support you and donate money to you and be a member.

However, they were bringing animal ambassadors to Suds Monkey Brewery on Friday, which has really good pizza and really fucking good beer.

Their beer is so good.

They just got like a couple of new like Irish reds in.

And I'm like, there's like one of my favorite beers.

Like, oh, they're so good.

And they have like an English brown.

Delicious.

But anyways, so I'm like, yeah, beer, pizza, Animals, animals.

Bring on animals.

Like, had snakes.

They had like four different kinds of snakes.

They had a tarantula.

They had a bigger lizard that wasn't like a small gecko, like bigger than that.

Like a ski or something.

I don't know what they're called, but it was fine.

And they had like water.

Is that a skink?

Yeah, they had a skink and then they had like, like a monitor or something like that.

So I'm like, no fuzzies.

No fuzzies.

Except the only fuzzy thing was the tarantula.

That doesn't count.

It does not count.

And I'm like, what the fudge?

You said Animal Ambassadors.

You did not say repassers or creepy crawly Ambassadors.

Fan of all of those things.

But come on.

Like an owl.

Like Diana got an owl.

Why couldn't I get it now?

Like, that's not.

There was some big fluffy dogs there.

So the dogs that that was.

They were on point.

There was a good fluffy boys.

They were well behaved.

Well, there was a couple of dog fights, but whatever that was inside, there was a.

A solo musician who I will not.

Comment on, can move on.

And.

But yeah, I was just very, very sad because really was like, yeah, I could use a bunny.

Or like, you know, like, I know it was hot out, guys, but like, it's Texas.

Like, bring a fox.

There are food.

There are fluffy animals.

They're not even fluffy.

And I will take an armadillo any day.

I would have totally taken an armadillo.

Like, I can go get Bert and bring him over there and be like, see, he's amazing.

But that's her backyard armadillo, in case you didn't know.

There you go.

But anyways, that was Friday.

Saturday.

Went up and got my hair did and then ran by the witch shop and got some new books.

And I was.

It's always exciting when you get new books.

And went to my parents house and I watched the Jungle Cruise with my mother.

Watched that.

Yeah.

You haven't watched it.

It's really cute.

It's on Disney.

Plus it's the rock.

It's.

Yeah.

It is a good movie to watch with your mother.

It's entertaining enough it's not sappy.

Yeah, no one.

There's no penises being shown.

You know, like, not like my mom, like my mom doesn't care, but the same time, like I don't want to watch somebody getting fucked in front of my parents.

Like, it's just not.

No matter how old you are.

So.

Thank you.

And you know, also, you know, she's at the age where all they do is like I say they.

My dad just reads a book and doesn't pay attention, but my mom just watches like NCIS like all the time because it's always on.

Right?

Like, I don't think that show goes off air.

I think it's on three or four channels.

They found a couple.

Babe found a couple of like the channels through like the.

I don't know what he uses.

It's either on like through the fire stick or just like one of the satellite ones or whatever.

Not the satellite, like the, the antenna ones.

And there's like a full on like Walker Texas Ranger channel and a MacGyver channel.

Like really separate channels.

That's all they show all the time.

Yeah, well, unlike Peacock, you can watch like botched all the time, which I have gone through like some botched marathons.

They have like Real Housewives playing.

Probably all of them just like non stop at a constant loop.

Like I don't watch that, but I think they're doing a Real Housewives of Dubai or something.

And I'm like, okay, would watch.

You might have me there.

Well, because I mean if that's like look at my 20,000 planes.

And then like the Real Housewives of Atlanta are like, damn, you know, and then like, and get in a bar fight.

The Beverly Hills ones are like, like, oh man.

Kind of poor, you know, like if I could see their disappointed faces, like looking.

Can I watch them watching react.

You need a react video from.

Yes, that, that's what I, that's what I would watch anyway.

So there was that and then I don't know what else.

I think, I think beyond that I've just been stuck.

My head stuck in books and being on call and shit, so.

Or whatever.

But yeah, it's.

I think it's time for us to.

Talk about the After School Special.

I feel like I'm just going to go ahead and preface this a little bit.

I'm.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that, well, that many people that would listen to this show or be into subcultural things like we are probably didn't always have the greatest experience in school, so.

Then, like, junior high, especially into high school.

So there's like some weird, like, layers in this episode about that.

And so I was kind of like.

It was kind of a.

It was a.

It was an interesting little roller coaster.

So I'll let Liz give her background on it.

Roller coaster.

Yeah.

So this is season four, episode 13.

So we're about halfway through.

It was directed by Adam Kane.

So he.

This is the only episode of Supernatural that he does.

He's an American cinematographer, film director, television director and producer.

So he did this Pushing Daisies, the Mentalist, Being Human.

I thought this was interesting because I was going down so many rabbit holes this week.

I was looking at his stuff on IMDb and I was.

He was like, oh, he was born in Burbank.

And I was like, wow, like, he's really Californ.

And then I kind of looked and he was like.

I saw, like, his dad was that.

That, that.

And his dad is Artie Kane, who pretty much conducted the music for, like, every film you've ever seen.

Like, with the.

Have a great score.

Like, you know, Mission Impossible, like, all of this thing.

So he has the name, even after you said that.

And I'm like, I know.

I've heard that name.

I'm not.

And I'm not a person that would know this kind of thing, like, ever.

Like, that.

Is that well known?

Yeah, he's that well known.

And so, I mean, I can kind of see that in this episode.

Like, I don't know, like, much, you know, like, it's a weird thing.

Like, you know, it's like, oh, I can kind of see, like, someone who grew up, like, around.

Like, around music and stuff.

Like, I don't know.

It kind of made sense to me.

Anyways, so this was written by Daniel Laughlin and Andrew Dob, and we last saw them this season with Yellow Fever.

And one interesting side bit.

So from the Supernatural companion Jensen Ackles recalls confronting one of the writers about that costume.

Oh, what costume could they be talking about, Diana?

I don't know.

And he is like, this was the first time I met writer Don Laughlin, who's new this season.

I was in la and he pulled me aside and he said, you know, I feel like I owe you an apology.

And I'm like, why is that?

And he's like, because I think of these things to do to Dean, and I forget sometimes there's actually a grown man having to do these things.

And he's like, yeah, thanks a Lot.

I got your number.

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle.

I'm always up for comedy, which sounds like the most scripted thing ever.

But I do think it's funny.

Like, just being, like, the first time you met him, it's just like, oh, man.

Like, I'm sorry.

Like, I'm just sorry about what I wrote.

Like, I don't even think about that.

Like, my apologies.

My apologies.

All right, so one thing you know, I'm going to save that because we'll get to them.

So let's just jump into where we are going to start off with.

Jump in to the high school.

Oh, wait, Gianna's cracking something.

Oh, I cracked my.

I cracked my Lone Star Light for this one.

You ready?

All right.

She's in high school.

She's back in high school and drinking Lone Star Light.

I didn't have that good a taste back then.

I should plug that.

I am drinking high cider because.

Mainly because their bottles are gigantic and I wanted to free up my space in my fridge.

So if you want gigantic cider, go to high cider and get some high styling.

They even have a classic car in the front of it.

That kind of.

Yeah, it's a Cadill.

I was about to say Isabel.

Yeah.

No, it's Caddy.

But this is the original drive for the cool cats.

Yeah, cool cats.

Cool cats.

But we're not going to be starting with the cool cats in this episode.

We're starting with Plastics.

That's what they are.

These are the fucking Plastics.

And that's what I was thinking about the second that we got to start of the scene with the cheerleaders, personally.

And I'm like, that is Regina George.

That is Regina George.

She is Regina George, but also just a cheerleader.

So the Plastics, like, weren't cheerleaders.

Like, they.

That's true.

That's.

They were too cool.

They were too cool to be cheerleaders.

Too cool to do that shit.

But.

But this chick was totally Regina George, in my opinion, so.

And Regina George is talking shit, calling another girl a slut, talking about how she was, I don't know, like, doing reverse cowgirl on some dude.

And the girls tries this.

Burnett walks up while they're talking shit about her, and I'm like, it's Gretchen Wieners, but it's not.

And.

But really, I mean, like, this whole exchange.

Because she's know.

Which is, like.

She gave him the verse, cowgirl and everything.

I mean, that's just lame.

Like, what?

Like, if she gave him, like, a Dirty Sanchez or something, I can understand calling that out.

I would say that.

But like, what?

You're 16, everybody's fucking somebody and oh my God, she fucked him backwards.

Oh, oh, no.

Right, like it's not like, like that, like, I mean, obviously 16 year olds should probably not be having sex.

That's a different conversation.

But they are, so it doesn't matter.

And, but the, the position in which while having intercourse is probably not the most scandalous fucking thing that could be going on here.

No, no.

It's bizarre.

And it's probably nothing compared to what is being said at that table right now with all the kids in the polyamorous relationships.

But I'm not shaming any Polly, so.

Love you guys.

All right, so, so she tries to, so the Burnett tries to sit down and they tell her it's a skis free zone.

So she goes and the cliche, quote unquote, nerdy ish girl.

Is that a fair statement?

I don't know how else, like, they're trying to, they're trying to get, I mean, a generic not popular chick.

That's the, that's what they're trying to.

I mean, there's a reason that Dean calls her very, maybe makes me mad.

He calls her Martha Dump Truck.

Later.

Later.

And that if you are not familiar with Martha Dump Truck.

I can't, I just can't.

Diana.

Okay, go on, go on, go on.

The brunette that got picked on sits with this chick.

The, the, the less traditionally attractive girl.

I don't know.

And she, the girl's sitting there, she's like trying to be nice.

I'm like, sorry, sorry they're mean to you.

And she's like, don't be sorry for me.

You're just a fat, ugly pig.

And so that was really fucking rude to this girl.

Yeah, fuck that girl.

Yep.

I, I, I no longer.

I was like, yeah, you're gonna take your shit out on this poor girl?

Oh, that's top class act.

Class act.

All right, so now we're gonna go to what is supposedly a girl's bathroom, but it's not a girl's bathroom.

That bathroom was so fucking clean.

Like, girls bathrooms are disgusting.

They, that thing would have been like the toilet that ends up in there, that would have been.

Had shit all over it.

Like, there would have been toilet paper like stuck everywhere.

Like maxi pad on the floor, like the whole thing.

Yeah, yeah, no, like within like 900.

Tampon.

A maxi pad on the floor.

That's how you find there yeah, within.

Five minutes of the school opening.

And nobody knows.

Like, you never see the whim.

I never once have seen the woman making this mess even.

Clearly they exist because it happens.

Like, were there, like, little gnomes?

Are there, little, like, bathroom gnomes and.

Girls bath and bathroom goblins?

Bathroom goblins?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Anyways, okay, so now the brunettes.

Now the brunette's sad because she was mean to the girl that was nice to her, and everybody's making fun of her.

Yep.

Sucks to be you, Taylor.

But it's also.

This is also.

Suddenly she's in a different outfit.

So this is, like, a completely different day.

It's the next day.

And so the quote unquote nerdy.

Whatever.

I just didn't have a good descriptor.

I'm sure that's what somebody.

Like, her name is April.

Just call her April.

Okay, well, yeah, we didn't get that till later.

That's why it's not my notes yet.

Sorry.

April kind of sneaks up on her and was like, you think I'm ugly?

And the brunette apologizes to her.

And so April slams her face into the mirror, breaking mirror beats her face against the sink and says, I'm not ugly.

And then, like, starts giving her a swirly.

But no, it's not just a swirly.

It's a swirly of death.

It is a drowning swirly.

She got a swirly of death.

Yep.

Yes, she did.

And, you know, it's hilarious.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

You should not.

This is not the proper way to respond to bullies.

However, it's also quite satisfying.

So.

Yeah.

And then she's crying black, oily tears and says, you're ugly.

You're ugly.

And I'm just like.

Well, I was like, that's kind of rude.

But also, I think that ectoplasm, like, when it's coming out of her eye, it's kind of sticking there.

I'm like, do you peel that off, like, a cucumber mask?

Like, is it satisfying that way?

Like, I was like, oh.

I was like, thick, like, charcoal ones.

Like, weird.

Yeah.

Or it's like you just have, like, a really big eye booger, and she's just, like, pulling out, like.

Yeah, like.

Like, I'm sorry.

Getting that.

That goo out of your eye probably felt pretty good.

I know.

All right, so we're gonna go.

But also, like, I know.

Like, you probably didn't get to her and IMDb because I just kind of randomly, like, went off.

Like, I just saw her.

Oh, yeah.

This is the only thing she ever did.

Ever.

I think that's why I looked and I didn't see anything else.

But I just think I.

That's what I think that's kind of cool.

Like, the only thing she ever did was this episode.

That's kind of neat.

Anyways, that's interesting.

All right, so we go to.

We cut to April, and she is obviously in a mental institution of some kind.

And she's telling Sam that she's already talked to the cops and the doctors.

No one believes me.

And Sam's like, well, I'm a little more open minded.

Why did you say that?

You're possessed?

And she's like, it doesn't matter.

Then she said, when I hurt Taylor, I was there inside my head, but I couldn't control my body and I wanted to stop.

Yeah, just like when you drink a bunch of absinthe and like, you know what your body is doing, like, you can see it and like you don't know why you're doing it, but you're like, I'm still doing this.

You're just watching yourself.

Right?

That's exactly what being totally.

Yeah, exactly.

That's how she felt.

I'm here with you, April.

But Sam's like, well, your classmates said y' all didn't really want get along.

She's like, well, nobody didn't get along, but I didn't want to like, kill her.

That's a little different.

And she's just really surprised that Sam believes her at all.

And so Sam starts asking her real weird, awkward questions about, did you smell anything weird that day?

Like sulfur or rotten eggs or see any black smoke?

And so then she calls him crazy.

Yeah.

And all this time, how have you guys not come up with some, like, smoother way to be like, do you smell demon farts?

Do you get cold?

Like, you have got to work out.

Did a giant smoke pot go down your throat?

Did you notice that?

Like, you know, like, there has to be like.

Like, oh, were there any like, chemical reactions?

Like anything like a fire, like smoke?

Like you do it like that, you know, where's.

You know.

Did you smell anything like a gas leaking, you know, like sulfur?

Like, they have no clever, nonchalant way of having this conversation.

No, you guys are terrible at this.

You're terrible.

Oh, anyways, all right, so when I go back to our car.

Yeah, we're in, baby.

And Sam's like, yeah, I believe her.

And Dean's like, yeah, kids can be vicious.

He is not fucking excited about going back to the School.

And Sam has the COVID idea of how they're going to get into the school.

I will say.

Notice the mascot for the school is the Bombers.

Yes.

Yes.

That was kind of interesting.

Yeah.

So when they pull up to the school, does it look familiar to you?

Did not.

It's Mystic Falls.

It's Mystic Falls High, which is even funnier.

It's about to happen.

But that is the same school as Mystic Falls.

That.

And that is when the Vampire Diaries guys are, you know, obviously tangent and something else, but that they use the same exteriors for both of them.

And this was actually shot in a high school, which I think is just interesting.

And so, like, the students would, like, go to class and then when they would break and stuff, they would shoot with, which I just think is kind of cool that this was in a real high school.

So that's cool.

And as they're pulling up the school, we go to a flashback.

Foreigners.

Long, long Way Home is playing.

And we have teenage Dean and Sam and little.

Little pre.

Barely teen Sam, I guess, getting dropped off by dad.

And Dean asked Sam, who's got his lunch.

His lunch, his books, and his butterfly knife.

Yep.

You know, the things that you need for your first day of school, which, you know, the very, like, very elite.

Like, oh, man.

Like, you would get expelled if you had a butterfly knife in school and probably arrested.

Yeah.

Oh, Even in the 90s, you would have been totally arrested.

Like.

Yeah, I think in my high school, they would have arrested me.

Well, we have like, actual cops at our school.

We did, yeah.

We have non campus officer, like an assigned officer.

One that's assigned to the campus at all times.

Yeah.

I think we have like four or six different.

Hi, guys.

Miss you.

We have one, like, long time one at our school.

He was really awesome.

So Sam's pretty bummed, though.

This is where you find kind of like, you get a little bit more like.

Obviously we know that the brothers lived a really nomadic lifestyle with their dad growing up, but Sam gives a little bit more context.

Talking about as a third school they've been to in a year and it's only November.

He's just really tired of being the new kid.

That would really fucking be tough.

It really sucked for.

Yeah.

Also, John, like, what the fuck?

What is wrong with you?

Why would you do that to it?

Like, and I get there are some kids that are kind of army brats they move around.

I have a lot of friends that did that.

Where the parents weren't pulling them out of school, like, every two weeks.

Like, you can't usually.

Or for.

Like, at least you can't enroll in.

A school for two weeks.

No, like, for the entire year.

Like, that's just not possible.

The kids would get.

At some point, CPS would have gotten involved.

Like, that's just not okay, John.

Find a fucking relative, give them to Bobby.

Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Sorry, John.

You're.

Or establish a home base that you come back to regularly.

Where they're at.

I don't know.

Like, figure something out.

It's just weird.

Yeah, it's just.

It's not.

It's not acceptable.

It just feeds.

It does give you a little bit more explanation on some of the dysfunction.

Well, there we go.

Yeah.

Yep.

So dysfunction junction, this is the function.

So we get her.

Get some cute little.

Kind of.

Like, this is Sam versus Dean and how they interact in their class introductions.

Yes.

Because, of course, Dean's the cool, tough guy and doesn't give a.

Because he ain't gonna be there for long.

Sam's kind of quiet and wants to sit by the nerdy kid and he's okay with it.

And they drops his butterfly knife and.

Other stuff and see that anything's awesome.

Yes, that's awesome.

Sam indeed sits next to a blonde.

Who is speaking of.

What show did we just reference?

Holy shit.

It is Candace King, AKA Caroline Forbes from Vampire Diaries and Originals.

Yay, Carolyn, my favorite character.

Love her.

Love her.

So she is making eyes at Dean already.

So.

Yeah.

And then in Sam's class, he gets to write an essay on a memorable family experience.

And we all know this is going to go poorly for Sam, probably.

And interesting, I think in the back of the wall.

I didn't get what was in the back of Dean's wall, but I just.

What was on the back of Sands was interesting because it was all about the outsiders.

Outsiders, Yeah, I saw that.

And one side was like, blah, blah, blah.

And then they had like, the Trials of.

The Trial of Johnny Cade and they had like.

And that was like, Ralph Matrio's character in the movie that if you would like.

I haven't read that book in so long and I probably.

I want to reread it now, but.

I don't think I ever read it.

You never read it?

I know most people do.

My English years got messed up because I changed English programs too many times.

So, like, I literally missed one of the years of a couple of years of what people normally take in Texas.

I'm pretty sure I read that on my own.

Oh, well, not surprising at all that I had to read the book.

I wanted to read that book.

All right, so.

All right, we're gonna.

We already have an introduction of a bully at this point, though, because we've got this kid flicking.

So in Sam's class, there is a larger boy flicking the ear of the bull of the boy that.

That thought Sam's butterfly knife was really cool.

And so now we've got the beginning of it.

Setup of a bully scenario.

And the nerdy kid is like, my name is Barry.

Barry.

And then the bully calls Sam a midget, which is hilarious.

And it's also because, you know, it's the same kid who played Sam in a previous one when he was much younger.

But I think this is kind of like that thing is kind of how they explain that he's not, you know, know, did not grow up to be tall like Jared Padalecki.

That there is a time before he had a growth spurt that he was really short.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yeah.

So we cut back to modern times, and we've got our.

We've.

Now we know what our brother's cover is to get into the school.

Sam is a janitor.

And we noticed that the same teacher is still there from when Sam was a student that Sam had that assigned the essay.

That's insane.

We quickly cut, though, to the much more important cover story.

In the gym, we have Dean Winchester as your stereotypical PE Coach in the gym shorts.

All right, so we go back to the modern times, and we now know what their cover is at the high school.

Sam is the janitor pushing his little cart down the hall past the same teacher's classroom that was his teacher that assigned the essay.

Still there.

Interesting.

And then we see Dean.

Dun, dun, dun.

And we have what could have been Dean's other life as a PE Coach.

The world's most glorious gym teacher.

Now, supposedly, this is modeled after one of Jensen's former PE Teachers.

And that when the costumer presented him with the shorts, he asked for them to be made tighter.

Well, they are tight.

They are.

They are very tight.

And the sweatband's a little unnecessary.

I'm just gonna say yes.

But although, you know, I was actually looking at sweatbands, like, this week, and I was like, are there still a thing, like, when I was looking at this, it.

No, he doesn't.

Except that it completes his outfit, so.

And, yep, he's going to teach in the world's best game ever.

And dodgeball.

And he pegs the kid in the stomach, which was also Jensen Ackles idea.

That poor child.

Shocking.

Yeah, dodgeball is awful.

But it's also important experience to have in life, I think.

Yes.

I mean, the thing is, like, I was actually pretty good at it until the end.

You know, at the end, when it.

Gets narrowed down, you're not good anymore.

Yeah.

Like, there's like, three people that I'm kind of done.

But, I mean, I surprisingly have, like, hand eye coordination for that type of thing.

And I'm little and so, like.

Like, I can just catch it.

Like, my hands, like, just cover up me because there's not a lot of it.

I just.

I have distinct recollections of being, like, pegged by, like, mean girls.

I would have pegged you.

Yeah.

Oh, wait, that sounds bad.

Anyways.

If nothing drives that home, she had to go to Massachusetts to get married or.

I didn't catch that.

I don't know.

Who knows what's happening?

Yeah.

Yeah.

2009.

Sorry.

So.

But still.

Okay, that's funny.

So by his.

He's enjoying this a little too much match, though.

And he tells Sam that the whistle makes me their God.

I do love that line.

But Sam hasn't found anything in the school.

And Dean's like, well, yeah, but we have to stay through lunch because it's Sloppy Joe's day.

Which, you know, we're always surprisingly pretty tasty.

There's a couple items that I would have stuck around for, too.

It's okay.

I don't think, like, the really shitty pizza.

Like, why was.

Why did I enjoy this?

The square pizza and then the taco day.

See, I don't remember those being that good.

Like, the fried burritos.

Those were always excellent.

I grew up.

You were in San Antonio.

So anything that involved mashed potatoes, gravy and rolls, I was there for.

That was my chance.

Oh, that sounds good.

Yeah.

Oh, I got white gravy with.

Oh.

I went to Chicken Express and they.

Their gravy is white gravy for the mashed potatoes.

It's good shit.

It's good.

It's crazy.

All right, so Dean's like, let's go and.

But we're gonna go.

We're not done yet.

Yep, we're in Home EC now.

We're in Home EC all right, and we've got, once again, your kind of stereotypical nerdy boy now is kind of the cliche.

And this one, I felt like.

I felt like they went a little over the top with these, but that's okay.

They're doing their cliche after school special looks, I guess.

So.

There we go.

And he just, like kind of zones out over the food processor as the jock that we saw earlier at the lunch table with the cheerleaders is in, telling him that he needs to copy his algebra homework again.

And the nerdy kid kind of snaps out of being zoned out and says, why?

Because you're a stupid brain dead dick.

Okay, fair.

And at this point, we realized the food processor is running without a lid.

And the jock threatens to shove his.

Switch, which also cannot happen.

You know how hard it is to make that fucking food processor turn on?

Well, these were ones at school.

Somebody probably broke all the safety switches off by now, at least.

But.

Yeah.

Wait, you can turn the safety switch off.

Oh, I'm sure.

Well, I don't know how, but I'm sure there's a way.

I think mine works without the lid.

I don't know.

Do you want to test mine next time you're here, see if you can run it without the lid on it?

It's real messy.

No, I would have.

I want to find the safety thing.

I'm like, oh, shit it.

Someone's gonna be taking apart their food processor tonight anyways.

Okay.

So the jock threatens to shove his fist down the freak's throat.

And so the.

The nerdy guy grabs the jock's hand and shoves it into the food processor.

There's a lot of blood.

A whole lot of blood.

Whole lot of blood.

They're screaming.

Honestly, it's plausible because no one would expect that, right?

Like, why would the joke.

Because you're supposed to.

That fist.

That fist.

Okay, here we go.

Here we go.

And.

Yep.

So.

But I feel like it's really funny in the scene that everybody's screaming, the teacher runs over, grabs the jock who's like, you know, bleeding profusely and yelling, and they're running out of the room to take him, I guess, to the hospital.

All the students are screaming and running out of the room.

Everybody's gone.

And everybody just leaves this guy there that shoved another kid's hand in the food processor by himself.

It's like, did they not think.

Did they just assume it was an accident?

Which is what I was kind of going with mentally, because I was like.

Like, I don't Think they would just like leave this guy alone now?

What?

We also established there's no school safety.

Officers here, so that's fair.

Whatever.

So every school has those now, by the way.

But that's okay.

Yep.

Oh, every school has like probably some military personnel.

Plans are active shooters.

Like.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not in high school right now, man.

It seems very stressful.

Okay, so Sam runs in and sees this.

The nerd kid has now fainted or collapsed on the floor.

And there's this black goo coming out of his ear.

And the kid asks Sam what happened.

And so Sam's just staring at the black goo coming out of his ear.

And making a frowny face.

Making a frowny face.

Which I would do if I saw some black goo coming out some kid's ear laying on the ground.

I'd frown too.

Just like.

That doesn't look good.

I don't know.

Yeah.

So there we go.

So we cut.

Cut to our.

Our brothers walking through the halls with their MF reader.

And Dean's in a tracksuit now.

Yeah.

And he is.

He's coming from the non violence assembly and because apparently it's not good form to shove someone's hand in a.

In a food processor.

And now you.

Now you had to have an assembly or a deathly.

It's kind of like now like when somebody says something like inappropriate on a call and then you have to have like an all hands.

Yeah.

God, I'm glad I don't have a corporate job.

Anyways, so they're convinced of the ghost possession now because of the black ectoplasm.

So anyway, so Dean's has snuck out into the principal's office and back out and makes a. Yeah, gross fucking comment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So before we get to that, I mean one.

So they determine that, you know, it's ghost possession and it's rare, right?

Like it's something you haven't seen before.

And also I really do think the girls in that high school would totally be trying to fuck the janitor and the coach like in an inappropriate way.

Like.

And that's where they get about to get to the gross information that Gene has.

But.

And before that I think they'd also be talking about their high school.

And because of that I think we should talk about the most haunted high school in the United States.

Or one of them.

It's lure.

Lore.

And you know where.

And you know where this high school is?

Diana, you probably have hit because I sent you a whole bunch of shit.

It's in Texas.

God, Damn it.

And it's in El Paso.

El Paso High is one of the most haunted high schools in America.

Crazy.

I did not know that.

I'm very excited.

I learned so many things.

El Paso is real far, though, so it's okay.

It is like, we're not going there.

It's fine.

For many reasons.

It's massive.

It's also at the foot of the Franklin Mountains.

Because, yes, you know, we do have mountains in Texas for that fucking abusive ex boyfriend of mine who is always like, texas is flat.

I've been to Texas.

And he would know.

It's like, we have fucking mountains, you asshole.

We have mountain ranges.

Anyway.

More than one.

Anyway.

Yeah.

Anyway, so they.

They call her the school, the lady on the Hill, because you, like, from her, like, you can see out into El Paso and into Juarez, which is basically like El Paso's sister city in Mexico.

And architecturally, it's Greco Roman.

Jesus Christ.

Fuck load of money, right?

So the floors are either fucking marble or they're like ochre wood is in the original one at least.

And even, like, the bathrooms have marble in them.

So it's like Harry Potter bathrooms, like that.

Impressive, but it's still impressive.

And there's like a huge stadium.

There was a brief period where the local clan chapter changed the name of the high school to Sam Houston High School.

Just an idea, you know?

Yeah.

And so there's all sorts of tales about the tunnels that run underneath the schools.

And you can even take tours of them.

You can.

Like, they offer them on Halloween and they use them to fund, like, just this.

Like, they fund, like, a whole bunch of things.

Everybody wants to go look at these tunnels, right?

The sub basement.

It was once used as a morgue.

I also saw something that said that it was used as overflow for bodies during World War II.

I didn't have time to verify that because I was busy verifying other shit.

All right, so some of the more colorful tales that were recounted by this one man, his name is Tobias H. Toby Tovar.

Going to call him Tovar because that just sounds like a cool name.

He was a math teacher at El Paso High.

And so he told some of like, these are like the bigger folklore around the school.

All right, One, there was a snowstorm and the schools closed.

And this was about 15 years before they talked.

Synchronicity.

Woo.

I right.

There are also.

So there's some teachers and students who basically like got stuck at the school because they went there before the phone tree went off to tell them they had a snow day because you know, you had to have a phone tree then to let you know that the roads are being closed down.

So anyways, the roads were shit and they couldn't go anywhere.

So they went wild Breakfast Club style.

Okay, I don't know if they did that, but if I was locked into school, I would go wild Breakfast Club style.

You know, there would have been like me dancing on top of the bookshelves, you know, snorting pixie sticks, whatever.

So they're like, we are gonna go explore the tunnels.

Because duh, you have a school with tunnels and there's nobody there but you.

Fuck.

Yeah, you're going into the tunnels.

All right?

So while they're down there, they find bricks that were blocking some passage and they were old and so they pushed through them and they found a sealed off classroom.

And it was a small room with antique desks, texts and student notebooks that were in place waiting for the students.

There were Baby Ruth candy wrappers on the floor and some product that sold for 5 cents and also 5 cent Coke bottles.

In one of the student notebooks lying on the desk, they found, in addition to algebra notes and completed problems, a very racy love letter from the owner of the book to a boy, as a tover said.

So now there are stories that that that room was haunted and it got sealed off in order to keep the ghosts from getting out, which is probably not true.

I also didn't see anything about any of the shit being discovered during that time.

And you think that would have made the papers, but you know, the tunnels are real.

Like that is legit for real.

And I'm sure there's very old things down there.

There.

All right, another story.

So the journalism teacher, she had been working late on the yearbook.

I was a boy, sorry.

And he was by himself at 11 o', clock, right?

So because him and the yearbook Crew were working hard to do whatever yearbook crews do.

So the kids leave, and he's by himself, and he walks out, and he sees a young lady wearing a blue chiffon dress, the type that would be worn to the school prom in the 40s or 50s.

He thought it was a student, told her to go home.

She looked at him with a sad face, started to become transparent.

And that's when he noticed that she was floating a foot off the floor.

And then when he got close to her, she faded into the dark hallway and disappeared.

Now, this is my favorite of the legends behind the school.

All right, so in the late 70s or early 80s, the track team came back from a major meet, a track meet, late night, right?

And so the school is closed and quiet.

The students are getting their crap together in the locker room.

And the coach, all of a sudden.

So the school's mascot is the Tigers, right?

So all of a sudden, he heard the tiger fight song and, like, sounds like cheerleaders doing.

And just the sounds of a general pep rally running from.

Coming from the auditorium.

So he runs up the stairs to the auditorium thinking that they have thrown him a.

Thrown them a surprise rally, which nobody throws.

A pep rally for the track team, dude.

Like, what the fuck?

So as soon as he gets up to the doors, the sound stopped.

And you reach for the doors, and they were locked.

So he unlocks him, opens them up, goes inside.

There's nothing there.

So he goes back to the locker room, and in the locker room, when he gets there, as soon as he walks in, it starts again.

And this time the students with him here, too, you.

So he goes running up the stairs, and as soon as he gets to the door, again, quiet.

Just.

So the coach and the students and everyone, they search for it.

They didn't find anything, right?

So those are like three of, like, the major, like the, I guess, like, urban legend ones, right?

And.

But they're beyond that.

There are just multiple reports of different apparitions being seen in the school.

The school.

School.

The most popular story is of a cheerleader who slit her wrist and jumped off a balcony after she got dumped.

Let's keep that in mind.

All right, so there's also photos, and there are so many photos.

There is a girl in the second row that nobody knows who she is.

She's.

She looks blurry.

And she wasn't in the negative, only in the developed picture.

And nobody from the class knew who she was or knew how she got there.

She's just in the photo.

And then there are just like tons of people, like, who still, like, to this day.

Like, there's all just.

If you Google El Paso High School ghosts, you'll get to see all these pictures of like, people in the windows.

There's one like these two guys who are standing at the stadium.

This one was like, like 20, 21.

And there's like a little girl, like standing in between them or something.

That looks like a little girl.

It's awesome.

All right, so is any of this real?

Well, at least the story of the cheerleader committing suicide is not true.

And that is unless the school covered their tracks really well and scraped that from newspapers and death certificates.

You know, I looked through a lot of newspapers from El Paso and I couldn't look at all of them.

But like, like, that's not.

Not something that, that anybody said anything about.

Right.

So.

But however, while I was tracking that down, I ended up in a hole, a lore hole, because there was this year where all this weird shit kept happening at El Paso High.

And by weird shit, I mean some like, Final Destination people dying bullshit, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, so we're in el Paso.

Prohibition is on, so people are going to Juarez.

The Calla Diablo, which is the street of the devil, which is basically the French Quarter in Mexico at this time that's full of like gangsters and babes and drugs and whatever.

And there's another story behind there, and we're going to talk about that some other day.

All right, so there's about 100,000 people in El Paso at this time.

And there was about 140 seniors in that class.

So I think that gives us a ballpark.

This is a pretty big high school, right?

Yeah, it's pretty large.

So maybe these statistics aren't abnormal when you consider how many.

But yeah, I think it's weird.

All right, so we're coming back from winter break.

It's January 13th.

School's been started for a while.

And all of a sudden, Frances Blair, AKA Mary, who by all accounts was a very pretty and popular girl.

She was blonde, little 16 year old.

She commits suicide by shooting herself in the heart.

And she did that at home.

She did not do that in school.

But then on January 29, Benjamin Feiner, who was one of the players on The Tigers basketball team, he gets hit in the head and he dies from a brain hemorrhage.

Then two weeks later, on February 10, the captain of the basketball team, he dies from meningitis that he got at an away game in Arizona.

Then two days later, Robert Poe, a junior, flipped his car and he died.

Then two weeks later, on Valentine's Day, Herbert Brodess, who is a senior, he fell off a 30 foot cornice on a downtown office building.

So he was outside on the roof to get some air and apparently when he did that, he slipped or something and he caught the high voltage wire, electrocuted himself, fell to the concrete below and then died 24 hours later.

And then we're.

Because two weeks later, Emil Rose Kiefer on February.

Actually this is.

Yeah, two weeks later.

Yeah, I think I got whatever days here.

But she goes to her room with carbolic acid that she bought and she swallows it and she kills herself.

But why?

Yeah, weird.

I don't know.

But yet that's like in two months, like all those kids at the high school died.

And oh shit did it suck.

So how many hours.

Hold on.

I just want, I want to share with, with our loyal listeners the amount of dedication and also insanity that Liz has in her commitment to lore.

Because I get a text yesterday or whatever when we were working on stuff and it's.

I have been looking at death certificates for hours is what she texts me and I'm like, wait, what?

She's like, oh, it's Laura.

Deep dive Laurehole Lore hole.

I'm like, okay, so Liz spent hours.

Looking at over multiple days.

But it was also, it was also death certificates.

And then cross referencing that with State with stories in the El Paso newspapers from that time to see.

You don't need to justify at all.

I'm just telling you why it was also more time because I was not just looking at the death certificate.

I was trying to find the stories behind it too.

Right.

And by kids, I'm saying I looked basically between 5 and 19 years old.

And obviously there was a lot of kids that died from tuberculosis and meningitis.

Like the captain of the basketball team.

There is a lot of septicemia, appendicitis, influenza, a hardship, childbirth, pneumonia.

But I was kind of like looking at the ones that weren't, I guess, caused by illness.

I wanted to see if there was like, was there some final destination, like accident shit happening in this town?

Two died in motorcycle accidents.

Two were killed by trains.

And both of those had their legs cut off by the trains.

One overdose from heroin.

There was three accidental gunshots.

There was one that was a gunshot on purpose from his father.

And then finally, my two favorites, a seven year old died from acute indigestion, eating a hearty meal, going and swimming immediately after.

So you can't die from that.

You can't die from that.

No, that's what they always said.

It was on his death certificate, that he got cramps while he was swimming because he ate and then he went swimming and he died.

It's bullshit.

That's what the coroner said.

It was like, no, like, no, that did not.

Oh my God.

That was actually on that.

That's not real.

Go look at our Twitter.

I posted that shit on our Twitter yesterday.

It's there.

Anyways.

And then the other one, which is the far end of the spectrum, somebody's.

Mom paid that corner to put that there.

I'm just saying, go ahead.

To teach another kid a lesson to teach.

Like they had like, they had like a five year old and they're like, look, man, like we just don't want to.

It's like, can we just like at least get him to like not go swimming after he eats?

All right, well just, can you just put that?

Cool.

All right.

And so the, the best, one best thing I saw on the death certificate was for a 19 year old who clearly did not go to El Paso.

Hi.

But he was killed by border patrol officers in fight with rum runners while in discharge of their duty and in self defense.

So basically he was, he was running rum and he got into a fighter patrol because.

Oh my God.

You want to read some fun crazy stories?

Go look at the stories of the fights between the rum runners and the border patrol agents during.

Someday we're going to talk about the street of the devil in Juarez and Queen and Queen Nellie and all that stuff.

Because it is a whole fascinating world of sin and debauchery and bad, bad things happen there.

But that was also right across the street from the high school.

All right, so that's it.

But to kind of sum this up, like, yeah, if all those kids, like, all those kids just died like around the high school, like, of course that thing is fucking haunted.

Like, but it just isn't that weird.

Like, and I was trying to think like, of kids who died while I was in high school because I went to a population that was probably about the same.

Like my high school was probably about as big, if not bigger.

And I don't remember that many, that many kids dying.

Yeah, I mean my high school is pretty big.

And it was only a three year.

Mine was a three year high school.

So it was 10, 11, 12.

And there was not, I mean, I was, I guess, I don't know.

I mean, I had a lot of friends who died, but they didn't go to school.

They were just dying from.

Because they're overdosing.

But I mean, I'm like, I don't.

Think that there was, there was not.

You know, I would say that on a given year across all grades, it was probably less than a handful that passed.

You know what I mean?

I'm not saying.

And I can't.

I'm trying to remember a single one while we were in high school and it's, I'm racking my brain.

It was also a long time ago.

But yeah, I was like, is this, you know, just coincidence?

Like, is the numbers.

But that's, that's a lot, right?

From one high school to have that many kids drop dead within.

I mean, the newspapers thought so they made a big deal out of it.

But yeah, it seems like a lot.

Yeah.

Which I also think it's funny.

Like, so clearly I got to this.

Cause I, I was searching through old newspapers for things like murder and suicide.

I'm on the best list.

But you would think like a suicide in that high school would have been popped.

Like, I didn't see anything.

At least not, not in like the decades I was looking at.

I mean, it's possible, of course.

And the photos of the little girls and the girl in the window are fucking wild.

Oh yeah, those photos are good.

Like they're some good stuff.

You look this shit up, there's like series over years of like this group of kids took a picture out front of the school and oh shit, in the window in the background, there's A tiny little.

Actually a really cool layout for school too.

Like, I mean, no, it's a gorgeous high school.

Yeah.

And you know who else went.

You know who went to that high school?

Who?

The next mount Governor of Texas.

Beto.

Beto went there.

Robert Francis.

Maybe he's possessed.

Maybe he's possessed.

Robert Francis o'.

Rourke.

But anyways, that is the story of the most one.

One of the most haunted high schools in America.

And you know, I think as the world, you know, appreciates the macabre more and more, I think the.

The.

It will continue to fund this school and maybe then like the weird goth kids will be just as popular as the jocks and we can finally rule.

What's gonna happen?

Well, they are doing apparently ghost tours there.

So, I mean, that's a good.

Yeah, I said you can go toward the tunnels and you get.

There's at a high school.

At a public high school.

That's just mind blowing to me.

I'm sorry.

So, I mean, but that's only because they're.

The funds are going to the school, right?

And they only do it during specific times.

Like there is.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, and there are some really good amateur, shall we say, paranormal investigators from the area who are investigating there, who are.

They're just saying they couldn't get into the school because it's a public high school.

And so like, you can't just be like, hey, I'm just going to go shove my EMF in the tunnel.

But they are delightful.

Why does that sound dirty but shove my EMF in the tunnel?

Well, I mean, because tunnel tunnels are all symbolic for vag.

We know that.

Obviously.

The other thing, like, what are the other.

There's so much lore that goes into.

Oh, man.

It's one of the things too.

It's fascinating, right?

Is just that it's.

This is like urban legends as at its peak, right?

Like the year the girl slit her wrist.

It has a date attached to it.

But like that date, like, no, that didn't happen.

But seven's like.

And then I could see it post.

I see it posted on like different sites over and over again.

I'm like, that is just something you picked up from somewhere and somebody just.

Held on to it.

Yeah, it's fascinating how that happens.

For real.

Yeah.

No, it's like watching urban urban legends grow in like their own time.

And then now watching.

Watching it shift into modern times and watching it, like, I'm sure if I went to TikTok, I could find TikTok videos of it because I found so many YouTubes of just kids, like.

But then I have to learn how to use.

Then I have to learn how to use Tick Tock.

I'm pretty sure I could learn how to use Tick Tock.

I just don't want to.

Yeah, Snapchat, though.

Look, there's like it.

The content on there.

If it's good enough, somebody aggregates it and puts it somewhere else and I just go watch it it there.

Yeah.

We will not have a tick Tock, by the way.

Spoiler alert.

There will never be.

As I said.

Yeah, you gotta do a dance, choreographed dance to make up our own TikTok dances.

That's right.

Do some.

Yeah, Start dancing while we talk.

So now.

Yeah, now Dean's gonna be gross.

Dean's gonna be gross.

So Dean's in his tracks, suit come out of the principal's office, makes a comment that there's three cheerleader.

Cheerleaders that are legal.

Guess which ones.

Bad.

Bad gym teacher.

By the way, even if they're legal, that's still there.

Even though of age.

It's still legal in Texas for a teacher and a student to have a relationship while they're a student.

From my understanding, because it's.

Why do you know that law so well?

Well, I don't know.

Well, it's just.

Just don't know.

I prefer older.

But second of all, well, I worked in school.

Yeah, I preferred older than you were.

You were not When I was a student.

I'm saying I wouldn't have known it then.

I know it now because I was.

Because I worked in schools at different times.

I don't know, like, maybe you got caught then.

I don't know, ma'.

Am.

I also love.

They're like, it's illegal.

Don't fuck the students.

All right, guys, we're really clear on this.

Even if they are of age, don't fuck the students.